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2001-12-12 05:05:08 PM  
Taking advantage of the NA for our benefit is only going to bite us in the ass later on.

yup
 
nez
2001-12-12 05:06:06 PM  
Oh - it might be too late, and this is coming from me (obviously I don't hate you) but WorldCitizen? You're a whiny commie liberal tree hugging terrorist loving bastard.

:)
 
2001-12-12 05:06:53 PM  
"WC is an uber-commie bastard"

hope you feel better, but today, we agree on some things
 
2001-12-12 05:07:05 PM  
why is it assumed that if someone is anti bush they're anti-american?

before sept 11th Bush had an amazingly low rating with the people. Now all of a sudden everyone approves of him.
 
2001-12-12 05:07:16 PM  
why is it assumed that if someone is anti bush admin they're anti-american?

before sept 11th Bush had an amazingly low rating with the people. Now all of a sudden everyone approves of him.
 
Rei
2001-12-12 05:07:35 PM  
Great.

If it keeps them distracted from training terrorists to kill American citizens, then by all means let's back off and "quit sticking our noses in world affairs."


Just ignoring the implied "American innocents are better than foreign innocents" logic there, civil war is historically one of *the* best places for the breeding ground of

A) fundamentalism, and
B) terrorists.

No, baby, WE'RE in charge.

Oh? So we're going to stay, and kill any side that gets in our way??

I'll keep that in mind next time you and your lap-licking liberal friends are engaging in a little civil disobedience.

Um, if you want to do civil disobedience on a crime with the death penalty, be my guest, but don't expect to be called a "hostage" when you're awaiting trial for it.

By the later actions, this meant "To the United States only. International bodies not acceptable."

Your (erroneous) assessment.


What?? The US *continually* refused Taliban requests to hand them over to an international tribual, or a neutral third country. The US wouldn't even *meet* with them about it.

This translates to free reign of the US military.

That explains why there are still armed US soldiers stalking the streets of Baghdad, shooting whomever they want, going wherever they want.


Even for a short time, no nation would tolerate this. Would you expect the US to tolerate it, for just *one* day?

Of course I heard somewhere it was just diplomatic inspection teams, but I could be wrong.

Never saw a single thing about that in the news, and I was a very avid reader. If you find an article, I would love a link, but everything I read stated or hinted to the US military - and having free reign.

Do you want some articles from that time?
 
2001-12-12 05:07:47 PM  
dash it all I didnt' even push comment twice!!!!
 
nez
2001-12-12 05:08:56 PM  
Exactly Rosalea. This is why belligerent nationalism disguised as patriotism is wrong wrong wrong.
 
2001-12-12 05:09:36 PM  
what if afghanistan was more powerful then the US? What if someone in our country attack theirs? what if they attacked us? ousted the bush admin with the help of all those groups living in the woods somewhere? what if those groups were then left in charge?
 
2001-12-12 05:12:07 PM  
Something tells me the terrorists have more pressing things to worry about right now, than making and carrying through plans to do more crap.
 
Rei
2001-12-12 05:17:46 PM  
Rosalea:

You're from the US, too?

It's funny, the only people I've met from the US who aren't all gung-ho about the war are women. And that's not to say all US women aren't gung-ho about it, my roomate overheard two women in the elevator the other day basicly advocating genocide of the people in Afghanistan... but... I have yet to meet a man from the US - and I live in the US - who isn't in love with our revenge spree.
 
2001-12-12 05:18:31 PM  
Nez--

"If there wasn't any US personnel around, someone is responsible for letting the NA run around with prisoners without supervision ..."

Yeah! The damned NA is responsible, doofus! Sheeeesh!


"... someone from the American military should have been there to prevent exactly this type of thing from occuring."

So... the U.S. should be omnipresent, right? Overseeing all. Is that what you want? And if the AREN'T there, they are guilty of NOT being everywhere. I pity the man who hooks up with you!

Please join Rei in the "have it both ways" chapter of the International DFC Club.
 
2001-12-12 05:20:07 PM  
yeah i'm from the US...and I know quite a few guys who feel the same way as me too. But far more women.
guess women are just more sensible and we use our brains more...*grins*
 
2001-12-12 05:27:29 PM  
i vote to clone rei and send all her clones to afghanistan to take on the taliban with tazers and water guns
 
2001-12-12 05:31:06 PM  
"I respect the military and appreciate all that they do for us...blah blah blah." Give me a break. You children love the military and respect it only so long as it isn't actually hurting anyone. Do you not understand that these fu*king people want to KILL US?

Grow the F up.
 
2001-12-12 05:37:19 PM  
The US and, for that matter, the rest of the world, could give 2 shiats about what atrocities some group of people commits against another group of people in another country.

See also:
1 million Armenians slaughtered by Ottoman Turkey between 1915 and 1917
20 million slaughtered in China between 1949 and 1976.
20 million anti-communists and anti-Stalinists slaughtered in the Soviet Union between 1929 and 1953.
13 million Jews, Gypsies, and anti-Nazis slaughtered in Germany between 1933 and 1945.
100000 Mayan Indians slaughtered in Guatemala between 1960 and 1981
300000 Christians and political rivals slaughtered in Uganda between 1971 and 1979
1 million educated persons slaughtered in Cambodia between 1975 and 1979

The United States has been attacked publicly and directly, and that is the reason we are destroying the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and anyone who gets in the way.

Atrocities are, have been, and ever will be.
 
nez
2001-12-12 05:40:09 PM  
Warren: First, you took two things I said out of context. If you had read the whole post, you'd have no misunderstanding about anything. Second, see Rei's 4:53:28 post.

Third, if our government decides to put military in Afghanistan and prisoners die under NA watch either

1. There was no American military present when there should have been to prevent this type of incident from happening.

or 2. There was American military present and they let this happen, thus they should be tried for their crime upon return to the states.

You are the one who does not get it both ways friend. The military is present and lets this happen and that's okay? Or the military is NOT present, thus slacking on oversight of NA power, which we gave them in the first place.

As Dennis the Menace's dad always says, "When you point your finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at yourself."
 
Rei
2001-12-12 05:43:03 PM  
HappyDaddy:

I see you typecasted me into a universal pacifist, which I am not. I supported the Gulf War, for example. But, because I don't support this conflict, I'm a military-hater, apparently.

Of course, now I'm coming to realize why all of the pacifists hate you warmongerers so much.

Nagasaki:

Atrocities are, have been, and ever will be.

Well, we're doing our best to help ensure that, that's for sure.

I have to run, all. Ciao!
 
2001-12-12 05:44:55 PM  
I'm doing my best to ensure that sun shines and rain falls.
Wish me luck.
 
2001-12-12 05:48:50 PM  
Rei: Let's get real, shall we? You do understand what the Taliban is about, don't you? I know you do because I've seen you correct people for using *the* and Taliban together. "The students" are students of what? Islam? True Islam? Pure Islam? That's terrific. Practice your religion however you see fit...in your country. In the mean time...if it's not too much to ask...please refrain from supporting people who see it as their duty to wage war against people in other countries because of their different religion, or lack of religion. I'm speaking of OBL's references to "jews", "crusaders" and "infidels".

OBL is trying desperately to to ignite WWIII/Armegeddon, IMO. He may very well succeed. Time will tell.

If you want to support the Taliban over the NA, Rei, that's cool. To me, Al Qaida is Jerry Falwell on crank, highly pissed at the world for his running out of crack. Taliban is his welfare slut.

Which category do you fall into, Rei? Infidel? Hey, Al Qaida! Not every "Christian" thinks that Jesus is God!
Not that it's anyone's business. Fukking freaks.
 
2001-12-12 05:53:12 PM  
I only want it one way:

Taliban, Al Qaeda, and if necessary all of Afghanistan: dead.

Rei and Nez: dead.

Ok, make that two ways. But I'll take either one, thanks.

Go hug a terrorist, or someone who harbors them.
 
2001-12-12 06:05:32 PM  
Alright kids! The next person to touch ANYBODY is grounded for two weeks.
 
nez
2001-12-12 06:11:02 PM  
I've never said I despise our military Skwidd. I just think they are used as tools by our government, and I think it's disgusting for politicians to treat people that way.

If you believe what you're told all the time, I cannot change that. Personally, I don't trust politicians, especially during war. And like I said before, if you can believe it, I did not come up with the thought that our government was involved in or complacent with the attacks - I may be nuts, but I'm not the only one.
 
2001-12-12 06:11:54 PM  
Skwidd: You said you'd mention it. You did. I'd laugh but I'm pretty sure that it may play into my Elian/Kennedy assassination theory....

they're watching! shhhh!
 
2001-12-12 06:13:03 PM  
nope not the only one. It may be implausible. But when you get right down to our government has gained ALOT from 9/11
 
2001-12-12 06:16:43 PM  
I say we kill him!

I say we hang em then we kill em!

I say we Tattoo him, then we hang him, then we kill him.

I say You let me have em first.

I say we let him go.

NOOOOOOO!

Don't I get a last request?


Then he does the Big Shoe Dance.
 
nez
2001-12-12 06:30:59 PM  
Perhaps you should post what I was responding to Skwidd. I was not saying all those things to no one about nothing.

Please continue to take everything I say out of context. It's so funny to read.

I still stand by my feeling that the military is used by our government to carry out their "evil" plans.

Muahahahaa.
 
2001-12-12 06:45:59 PM  
Boy, I should check this stuff earlier in the morning.
Nez, I just wanted to review for you a little bit of what this tool of the government has done to advance those "evil" plans.
Last week, I saved a 2 year old local that was choking on a marble, a month ago, I delivered a local dependent's baby. In July, I saved an old guy that works on post from a seizure, brought on by a head injury. Was able to get him out of status and actually breathing again. Numerous MIs (heart attacks), fractured limbs, everyday surgical abdomens, I've taken care of them all.
It's good to be a tool, and evil to boot!
 
2001-12-12 06:50:58 PM  
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Osama hates..........cans!
 
nez
2001-12-12 06:51:43 PM  
Whatever Skwidd. You can disagree with everything I say, but that doesn't make me insane. If I were to use your logic, that would make pretty much everyone nuts - seeing as how I'm in the minority with my views... at least on Fark I am.

If only I had the time to sift through everything you've ever said - I wonder what I would find... ... ...

Anyway, I'm free to live in my "crazy-not-agreeing-with-Skwidd-world" if I want. So leave me be - you're being a bit of a troll.
 
nez
2001-12-12 06:54:36 PM  
Well it sounds like you're due for a big pat on the back Nodhg. Good job.
 
2001-12-12 06:56:26 PM  
Thanks.
 
2001-12-12 07:00:54 PM  
Is it just me, or is it really obvious to everyone else that "harmonia" breast-fed a few weeks too long? Sheesh! I've been reading this thread over 1/2 hour and all I see is his whining. What a mamma's boy in need of a real country! :) Or am I being politically incorrect in assuming it's a dude? Ah, who cares? Whining fag, whining woman. Close enough.
 
nez
2001-12-12 07:01:11 PM  
Maybe we should all start listing off the wonderful things for humanity we've done in the past year - I'm sure the list would be ever so wonderous here on Fark.

:p
 
2001-12-12 07:01:22 PM  
Why do you all have to associate differnce of opinions as being insane?

What the hell! You all sound like you are in a high school debate class! Regardless of what you personal opinion is, you don't even take a moment of your stupid day to consider things from someone else's perspective. Right wing, left wing, who the fark cares. Lets try to understand eachother a little better instead of dragging eachother thru the gutter. This is an anonymous forum...so by all means pleaes use that tiny chance you have at understanding someone else's point of view. Leave the idea of blindly sticking to party lines to those morons in Washington.

And for whatever it makes me in your stuipd labels...Peace, not War!
 
nez
2001-12-12 07:02:32 PM  
Well, it's time for me to actually do some work. Goodbye all. We'll continue this lovely exchange tomorrow.

Fark stinks.
 
nez
2001-12-12 07:04:40 PM  
Skwidd - stop being a troll.

Goodbye.
 
2001-12-12 07:05:17 PM  
Skwidd: Stay 15! So what are you speaking from...the ripe old age of 18. OOOOOOOhhh...you can buy smokes! You are soooo old!!!!
 
2001-12-12 07:07:05 PM  
Nooo! Don't work, stay and Fark. Just 30 minutes more, I promise. You can quit anytime you like, just not now. But don't do some work, for the love of god.
 
2001-12-12 07:11:07 PM  
 
2001-12-12 07:29:13 PM  
And...cut. That's a wrap. Good argument today, people. See you all tomorrow.
 
zkm
2001-12-12 07:46:55 PM  
Nez- If fark 'stinks' then stop logging on.

Snuchie Buchies!
 
2001-12-12 07:57:43 PM  
Lord Argents domain declares war on pointless arguments.
 
2001-12-12 08:04:03 PM  
but pointless arguments can be so much fun when you're bored
 
2001-12-12 08:25:59 PM  
I got here late, work is starting to ramp up. Dunno if that's a good thing or a bad thing yet.
 
2001-12-12 08:26:44 PM  
work is good.
except when you're like me and have waaay too much and don't want to do any of it
 
2001-12-12 08:30:40 PM  
I went from one project to five, and my assistant got himself fired. Plus I'm starting a web dev company on the side with some friends.

I'm a busy dude. Which sucks if you're lazy ;^)
 
2001-12-12 08:48:12 PM  
I know the feeling. But money's good. Wish I could find enough freelance work to keep me even more busy....well okay I dont' want to be more busy...just to see my bank balance grow *grow*
I've got 3 site launches next week all within 2 days of each other. And they just got the content to me last friday *shudders* i'm at 35 hours already this week and my days not over yet. I should stop slacking off at Fark I guess
 
2001-12-12 08:48:59 PM  
should have been *grins* not *grow*
one of these days I'll proof read before posting. Maybe. In the far off future.
 
2001-12-12 09:31:22 PM  
Nez: "Oh - it might be too late, and this is coming from me (obviously I don't hate you) but WorldCitizen? You're a whiny commie liberal tree hugging terrorist loving bastard."

Mr.Sinister: "WC is an uber-commie bastard"

Thank you both. I missed hearing those magical words before I had to go out to dinner, but at least now I can sleep well tonight...
 
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