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(WTOP)   The Capital Beltway turns 50 years old this weekend, and some of its original commuters are just about to finish getting past the 270 spur   (wtop.com) divider line 93
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2014-08-15 09:01:40 AM  
When I lived in NJ, I steadfastly refused to ever EVER drive into New York City.  I was happy to take the
bus or the train but the prospect of driving in Manhattan filled me with dread.

Six months after I moved to DC, I was talking to my brother (who lived in Greenwich Village at the time)
making plans to head back to our mother's house for Thanksgiving.

"So, I'll shoot up into the City, pick you up, and head out to mom's" I said.

My brother was silent for a moment, then said, "But Django, you don't drive in the City."

"Dude, I've driven the DC Beltway.  I will ENJOY driving in Manhattan."

And to this day, I do.
 
2014-08-15 09:48:32 AM  
The headline is funny because it's true.
 
2014-08-15 10:14:45 AM  
I was a traveling to DC for 6 years on various consulting gigs.  I stopped renting a car at about week 3.
 
2014-08-15 10:33:39 AM  
If you leave from Bethesda, MD to McLean, VA (10.5 miles) at 5:00pm, you'll get there about 7:00. If you leave at 6:30, you'll get there about 7:00.

People who work in Bethesda but live in VA tend to work late.
 
2014-08-15 11:09:03 AM  
The locals were envious of the massive traffic jam in China because it would actually move on occasion.
 
2014-08-15 11:10:14 AM  
the Real Bummer is that 98% of the 'murican population is not in the 'inner loop' where Capital Hill is concerned.  and that suits the ones that are 'in the loop' just fine.

they call it 'Democracy' or something like that.
 
2014-08-15 11:11:25 AM  
I never want to live (on purpose that is) in a largely populated area for the main fact of traffic issues.

Richmond traffic is bad as I want to experience.
 
2014-08-15 11:11:28 AM  

Hawnkee: The locals were envious of the massive traffic jam in China because it would actually move on occasion.



that's communist china, acc. to cia.gov
 
2014-08-15 11:12:26 AM  

bighairyguy: The headline is funny because it's true.


I would have gone with Malfunction Junction (495/95/395) but 270 works.
 
2014-08-15 11:13:00 AM  
I still remember a few years ago deciding to drive to Boston to see a friend of mine.  I got stuck in traffic on the Beltway.  At four o'clock in the morning.  On a THURSDAY.

And the worst part is the Metro isn't much better.  If the trains aren't breaking down you have to go up Escalators of Deathtm because the elevators are broken.
 
2014-08-15 11:14:16 AM  

MrBallou: If you leave from Bethesda, MD to McLean, VA (10.5 miles) at 5:00pm, you'll get there about 7:00. If you leave at 6:30, you'll get there about 7:00.

People who work in Bethesda but live in VA tend to work late.


You forgot to factor in if there is an accident on the beltway.
Difficulty: there is always an accident on the beltway
 
2014-08-15 11:15:49 AM  
Anyone have any idea what century the construction around the Springfield area will be completed?  Just curious.
 
2014-08-15 11:16:40 AM  
The trick is to get into the Clara Barton merge lane as soon as you cross the American Legion Bridge (nobody really merges in from there anyway) and pass all the suckers stuck in traffic right up til the lane goes away.  You get to pass about a half mile of suckers easy.

/kidding, i am usually two lanes over by that point.  But I giggle at the member waving contests as people try to stop people merging.
 
2014-08-15 11:18:25 AM  

Walker: Difficulty: there is always an accident on the beltway


This. I'm still trying to figure out the science behind the near-constant gridlock. It doesn't matter what time of day or for how long you drive on the Beltway; you will get stuck in traffic.
 
2014-08-15 11:18:41 AM  

2wolves: bighairyguy: The headline is funny because it's true.

I would have gone with Malfunction Junction (495/95/395) but 270 works.


Many would argue 270 doesn't work.
 
2014-08-15 11:18:45 AM  
Turn the beltway into a prison wall, and we're halfway to solving our crime problem.
 
2014-08-15 11:19:40 AM  

Missicat: Anyone have any idea what century the construction around the Springfield area will be completed?  Just curious.


Well I've lived in this area my whole life and that area has always been under construction, so I'm gonna say it should be completed by......the 12th of never?
 
2014-08-15 11:19:50 AM  

Marisyana: I still remember a few years ago deciding to drive to Boston to see a friend of mine.  I got stuck in traffic on the Beltway.  At four o'clock in the morning.  On a THURSDAY.

And the worst part is the Metro isn't much better.  If the trains aren't breaking down you have to go up Escalators of Deathtm because the elevators are broken.


I believe the Metro motto is 'It may take you longer to get there, but at least it is more expensive'.
 
2014-08-15 11:22:03 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Marisyana: I still remember a few years ago deciding to drive to Boston to see a friend of mine.  I got stuck in traffic on the Beltway.  At four o'clock in the morning.  On a THURSDAY.

And the worst part is the Metro isn't much better.  If the trains aren't breaking down you have to go up Escalators of Deathtm because the elevators are broken.

I believe the Metro motto is 'It may take you longer to get there, but at least it is more expensive'.


"And will continue to break down more often and get more expensive because f*ck you, that's why."
 
2014-08-15 11:22:06 AM  
SURRENDER DOROTHY
 
2014-08-15 11:22:36 AM  

2wolves: bighairyguy: The headline is funny because it's true.

I would have gone with Malfunction Junction (495/95/395) but 270 works.


God, the mixing bowl.  This entire thread is giving me nasty flashbacks.
 
2014-08-15 11:22:43 AM  

foo monkey: 2wolves: bighairyguy: The headline is funny because it's true.

I would have gone with Malfunction Junction (495/95/395) but 270 works.

Many would argue 270 doesn't work.


Just 2 days ago:
Overturned Dump Truck Causes Severe Traffic Delays on I-270 in Rockville
media.nbcwashington.com
Sand from the truck was spread across the road, and the resulting traffic delays stretched all the way to the Beltway.
 
2014-08-15 11:23:31 AM  

Surly U. Jest: SURRENDER DOROTHY


Heh. You can still see the green squares where they painted over each letter.
 
2014-08-15 11:23:59 AM  

2wolves: bighairyguy: The headline is funny because it's true.

I would have gone with Malfunction Junction (495/95/395) but 270 works.


Nah, the Mixing Bowl fix has actually worked.  Oh, it's traffic, but it's much better than it was.
 
2014-08-15 11:24:45 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Marisyana: I still remember a few years ago deciding to drive to Boston to see a friend of mine.  I got stuck in traffic on the Beltway.  At four o'clock in the morning.  On a THURSDAY.

And the worst part is the Metro isn't much better.  If the trains aren't breaking down you have to go up Escalators of Deathtm because the elevators are broken.

I believe the Metro motto is 'It may take you longer to get there, but at least it is more expensive'.


I think it's a culture thing.  In NYC, the subway system works.  People use it.  No matter where you are, there's a station three blocks away that will take you to within three blocks of where you want to go.  It's a huge part of what makes NYC what it is.

To use the DC Metro, you have to drive through traffic to get to the nearest station, find a parking space, travel (slowly) to the closest stop to your destination, then take a cab to where you actually want to go.
 
2014-08-15 11:25:40 AM  

Walker: foo monkey: 2wolves: bighairyguy: The headline is funny because it's true.

I would have gone with Malfunction Junction (495/95/395) but 270 works.

Many would argue 270 doesn't work.

Just 2 days ago:
Overturned Dump Truck Causes Severe Traffic Delays on I-270 in Rockville
[media.nbcwashington.com image 485x273]
Sand from the truck was spread across the road, and the resulting traffic delays stretched all the way to the Beltway.


YAY!!! I was on my way back from vacation at Great Wolf and had to go by that.  I got stuck in traffic near I-66.  Only thing left by the time I got there was a bit of sand.
 
2014-08-15 11:25:58 AM  

Walker: foo monkey: 2wolves: bighairyguy: The headline is funny because it's true.

I would have gone with Malfunction Junction (495/95/395) but 270 works.

Many would argue 270 doesn't work.

Just 2 days ago:
Overturned Dump Truck Causes Severe Traffic Delays on I-270 in Rockville
[media.nbcwashington.com image 485x273]
Sand from the truck was spread across the road, and the resulting traffic delays stretched all the way to the Beltway.


My father used to say three things can stop traffic on the Beltway:  A drop of rain, a flake of snow, and a blinking light.  I'll add "a grain of sand" to that.
 
2014-08-15 11:26:04 AM  
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2014-08-15 11:26:24 AM  
Meanwhile, commuters who decided to avoid the beltway today to take metro instead had to suffer through this cock-up of biblical proportions:

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2014-08-15 11:28:53 AM  

Tax Boy: Meanwhile, commuters who decided to avoid the beltway today to take metro instead had to suffer through this cock-up of biblical proportions:

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Holy shiat. Was that this morning?
 
2014-08-15 11:29:08 AM  

foo monkey: In NYC, the subway system works.  People use it.  No matter where you are, there's a station three blocks away that will take you to within three blocks of where you want to go.  It's a huge part of what makes NYC what it is.

To use the DC Metro, you have to drive through traffic to get to the nearest station, find a parking space, travel (slowly) to the closest stop to your destination, then take a cab to where you actually want to go.


DC Metro was more-or-less designed to be commuter rail.

That said, it mostly fails at this too.
 
2014-08-15 11:29:49 AM  

The Goddamn Batman: Tax Boy: Meanwhile, commuters who decided to avoid the beltway today to take metro instead had to suffer through this cock-up of biblical proportions:

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Holy shiat. Was that this morning?


Yup.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dr-gridlock/wp/2014/08/15/delays -o n-metros-orange-silver-and-blue-lines/?tid=hpModule_13097a0c-868e-11e2 -9d71-f0feafdd1394&hpid=z11
 
2014-08-15 11:30:25 AM  
On the Washington DC Beltway, around and around I go
In a black van with no windows, and a chimney puffing smoke

/not obscure
 
2014-08-15 11:31:28 AM  

Tax Boy: foo monkey: In NYC, the subway system works.  People use it.  No matter where you are, there's a station three blocks away that will take you to within three blocks of where you want to go.  It's a huge part of what makes NYC what it is.

To use the DC Metro, you have to drive through traffic to get to the nearest station, find a parking space, travel (slowly) to the closest stop to your destination, then take a cab to where you actually want to go.

DC Metro was more-or-less designed to be commuter rail.

That said, it mostly fails at this too.


I used Metro North/MTA to commute from Tarrytown to lower Manhattan for two years.  It took 90 minutes, but it worked.  Amazed me how millions of people could peacefully flow on and off that island, every day.  If dogs were packed in that tightly, they'd eat each other.
 
2014-08-15 11:32:29 AM  

Tax Boy: Yup.


Oh FFS, and I thought the Red Line was bad this morning.
 
2014-08-15 11:33:05 AM  

foo monkey: I think it's a culture thing.  In NYC, the subway system works.  People use it.  No matter where you are, there's a station three blocks away that will take you to within three blocks of where you want to go.  It's a huge part of what makes NYC what it is.

To use the DC Metro, you have to drive through traffic to get to the nearest station, find a parking space, travel (slowly) to the closest stop to your destination, then take a cab to where you actually want to go.


When I go to DC I'm generally going to Georgetown, the Verizon Center or the Nationals' stadium, all of which have Metro stops at those locations.  However, the only dependable station is GWU/Foggy Bottom.  I've been to five Nationals games since the stadium opened.  EVERY SINGLE TIME the elevator was broken and twice the escalator was too.  Verizon Center is hit or miss.

Before the "you sound fat" stuff starts you should know that almost without fail Metro stations in DC are way underground, which means long, steep flights of stairs and the aforementioned Escalators of Deathtm.  Trust me, you'd want to take the elevator too.
 
2014-08-15 11:34:18 AM  

Tricky Chicken: YAY!!! I was on my way back from vacation at Great Wolf and had to go by that. I got stuck in traffic near I-66. Only thing left by the time I got there was a bit of sand.


I-66, the Beltway's ugly appendage.
 
2014-08-15 11:35:30 AM  
I keep booking flights out of DCA instead of BWI because, its cheaper. Then the traffic is terrible, the parking is insanely expensive, and I promise myself I'll never book a flight out of DCA again.

And yet next time, I book the flight out of DCA.
 
2014-08-15 11:36:15 AM  

Tax Boy: Meanwhile, commuters who decided to avoid the beltway today to take metro instead had to suffer through this cock-up of biblical proportions:

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That's getting to be a daily thing too, especially for the red line.
Red means stop. Don't move. They named the line correctly.
They lucked out today with this cock-up.
Cracked line. So much for all that weekend track work where they said that will prevent things like this.
 
2014-08-15 11:36:24 AM  

The Goddamn Batman: Tax Boy: Yup.

Oh FFS, and I thought the Red Line was bad this morning.


Redliners internet fist bump
 
2014-08-15 11:36:42 AM  

The Goddamn Batman: This. I'm still trying to figure out the science behind the near-constant gridlock.


There is no alternate route. All traffic must go through the Beltway. That's why.
 
2014-08-15 11:37:44 AM  
70S you mean
 
2014-08-15 11:39:16 AM  

MrBallou: If you leave from Bethesda, MD to McLean, VA (10.5 miles) at 5:00pm, you'll get there about 7:00. If you leave at 6:30, you'll get there about 7:00.

People who work in Bethesda but live in VA tend to work late.


When I lived in Bowie Md and worked in Herndon I figured that out.   Leave at 7:00 in the morning arrive at 9:00   Leave at 8:00 in the morning get there by 9:00

Of course that 50 mi one way commute had a lot to do with why my wife insisted we move to Leesburg.  Apparently I am not a very nice person after an hour and a half of beltway traffic   (ironically a year after we moved I ended up working in downtown DC, but thanks to the commuter bus service the only part of that I drive is the 3 miles to the park and ride lot...)
 
2014-08-15 11:40:42 AM  

Marisyana: foo monkey: I think it's a culture thing.  In NYC, the subway system works.  People use it.  No matter where you are, there's a station three blocks away that will take you to within three blocks of where you want to go.  It's a huge part of what makes NYC what it is.

To use the DC Metro, you have to drive through traffic to get to the nearest station, find a parking space, travel (slowly) to the closest stop to your destination, then take a cab to where you actually want to go.

When I go to DC I'm generally going to Georgetown, the Verizon Center or the Nationals' stadium, all of which have Metro stops at those locations.  However, the only dependable station is GWU/Foggy Bottom.  I've been to five Nationals games since the stadium opened.  EVERY SINGLE TIME the elevator was broken and twice the escalator was too.  Verizon Center is hit or miss.

Before the "you sound fat" stuff starts you should know that almost without fail Metro stations in DC are way underground, which means long, steep flights of stairs and the aforementioned Escalators of Deathtm.  Trust me, you'd want to take the elevator too.


Hardly anybody takes the elevators in DC's Metro. They smell like pee (and worse) from homeless people relieving themselves in them.
 
2014-08-15 11:45:31 AM  
for a couple of years I drove from woodbridge to gaitersburg. so I'm enjoying this thread
 
2014-08-15 11:51:05 AM  

smd31: I never want to live (on purpose that is) in a largely populated area for the main fact of traffic issues.

Richmond traffic is bad as I want to experience.


Richmond traffic is like having sex compaired to DC traffic (which I have seen backed up to damn near richmond)

At 5:30 on a Friday afternoon (going south), you might slow down around exit 78 and crawl to about exit 72. Near DC at the same time you will stop at exit stop on the ramp on anything that ends with "X95". After chilling there for a while, you'll actualy get on the interstate were from exit 170 or so to about exit 126, you won't so much as crawl but move by some effect of osmosis, between the wheels and concrete. Which is about as fast as it sounds. Once you get out of your car and walk to exit 126 (much faster) and jack a car at that exit, THEN you can crawl along to about exit 80 when shiat starts moving again.
 
2014-08-15 11:56:17 AM  
I quit a CTO position because the HQ was moving to the "wrong" side of the beltway...or at least that was the catalyst.

From BWI to Tyson's and back everyday would have been a nightmare.

/and don't even start about taking the new Silver line...
 
2014-08-15 11:59:30 AM  

Missicat: Anyone have any idea what century the construction around the Springfield area will be completed?  Just curious.


It was under construction when I graduated from high school.

We're going to have our 30th reunion this fall.
 
2014-08-15 12:00:05 PM  

Waldo Pepper: for a couple of years I drove from woodbridge to gaitersburg. so I'm enjoying this thread


So like twice?
 
2014-08-15 12:00:12 PM  

Surly U. Jest: SURRENDER DOROTHY


Now THERE is a real local.....sad that seems to have been painted over now
 
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