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2014-08-15 10:29:48 AM  
Like the militia members in Eastern Ukraine, they like looking cool and looking like badasses.

Ouch.

This guy didn't pull any punches here.

Quite correctly, he makes the point that the police playing army and showing off all their cool new toys and shooting rubber bullets into the crowd was guaranteed to escalate the already bad situation.

Arresting journalists to try and put a lid on the story was the derp-cherry on the fail-cake.
 
2014-08-15 11:32:38 AM  
This is not playing Army.
I know Army.
He was my friend.
These farkwads are no Army.
They can't even play decent Army on TV.

I'd get rid of all of them, but that is just me.
 
2014-08-15 11:50:37 AM  

snocone: This is not playing Army.
I know Army.
He was my friend.
These farkwads are no Army.
They can't even play decent Army on TV.

I'd get rid of all of them, but that is just me.


I slept with army,
they are no army.
 
2014-08-15 11:51:46 AM  
That's some pretty good GI Joe cosplay right there.
 
2014-08-15 11:52:01 AM  
As the veneer of democracy starts to fade.
 
2014-08-15 11:54:02 AM  
cdn.grumpyelder.com
 
2014-08-15 11:55:13 AM  
Why don' they just join the army and go to Afghanistan then?
 
2014-08-15 11:55:15 AM  

Ambitwistor: [cdn.grumpyelder.com image 300x167]


While the USA watched TV.
 
2014-08-15 11:56:37 AM  
They just released the cops name who shot Mike Brown, and are claiming he robbed a store, which, apparently means it was ok to to murder him.
 
2014-08-15 11:57:15 AM  
I'm not psychic but I see a top to bottom house cleaning.
 
2014-08-15 11:58:56 AM  
The practice of sending used military surplus started in 97. Just saying.
 
2014-08-15 11:58:59 AM  

Ambitwistor: [cdn.grumpyelder.com image 300x167]


About the same time every social ill became a "war" - drugs, crime, poverty.
 
2014-08-15 12:00:00 PM  
Pfft. "Expert." Does he have a Fox News gig? Didn't think so.
 
2014-08-15 12:00:36 PM  

quatchi: Like the militia members in Eastern Ukraine, they like looking cool and looking like badasses.

Ouch.

This guy didn't pull any punches here.

Quite correctly, he makes the point that the police playing army and showing off all their cool new toys and shooting rubber bullets into the crowd was guaranteed to escalate the already bad situation.

Arresting journalists to try and put a lid on the story was the derp-cherry on the fail-cake.



Mmmm, cherry fail cake.
 
2014-08-15 12:01:04 PM  

stuffy: I'm not psychic but I see a top to bottom house cleaning.


I'm not psychic either but I see you being disappointed in the near future :)
 
2014-08-15 12:01:13 PM  
Putting a mask on a cop is just like putting anonymous on the interwebs.
Just add juice and, instant tough guy.
But these farks have REAL guns, little or no training, NONE NADA ABSOLUTELY ZERO2 command and control thrown in.
Good luck.
 
2014-08-15 12:01:40 PM  
I didn't know Fark had commentators.
Who does play by play?
 
2014-08-15 12:04:15 PM  
I agree with pretty much everything that's being said - in fact I'm probably one of the "Fark commentators" subby was referring to - but I think that characterizing the interviewee as an "expert on policing" is a bit of puffery. His name only turns up on the second page of Google searches (there are apparently a lot of "Jason Fritzes"), which shows he is affiliated with the Strategic Studies Institute at the Army War College, and he has only produced one work there, for which he is not the lead author. That said the book is on US law enforcement operations, so that's at least not mischaracterized.

http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/people.cfm?author ID =801
 
2014-08-15 12:06:58 PM  

doubled99: I didn't know Fark had commentators.
Who does play by play?


What a comment tater on Fark might look like:

www.seriouseats.com
 
2014-08-15 12:09:52 PM  
What's wrong? The police thought it was one of those fun "masquerade" protests that are all the rage right now and they showed up as a Marine assault team.
 
2014-08-15 12:14:37 PM  

Ambitwistor: [cdn.grumpyelder.com image 300x167]


I'm guessing when this:

byt.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com vietnamartwork.files.wordpress.com


became this:

torontoist.com www.greatdreams.com
 
2014-08-15 12:15:35 PM  

Ambitwistor: [cdn.grumpyelder.com image 300x167]


When the number one selling civilian rifle in America became the AR-15 platform.
 
2014-08-15 12:15:47 PM  

Delta1212: doubled99: I didn't know Fark had commentators.
Who does play by play?

What a comment tater on Fark might look like:

[www.seriouseats.com image 610x458]


Mostly potato?

/and too fat
 
2014-08-15 12:15:58 PM  
Here are a few fellows dressed up in robes and hood playing hero in their minds and raising money for some cop in Missouri.  NSFW if you work anywhere decent.
 
2014-08-15 12:20:12 PM  
Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.
 
2014-08-15 12:20:39 PM  

mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.


Yes we do.
 
2014-08-15 12:23:48 PM  

Ambitwistor: mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.

Yes we do.


No we don't.
 
2014-08-15 12:24:32 PM  

Kiler: Ambitwistor: mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.

Yes we do.

No we don't.


i.ytimg.com
 
2014-08-15 12:24:45 PM  

BitwiseShift: Here are a few fellows dressed up in robes and hood playing hero in their minds and raising money for some cop in Missouri.  NSFW if you work anywhere decent.


A picture of somebody in a KKK outfit in a news article is considered offensive at your job? and you consider your job decent?
 
2014-08-15 12:26:54 PM  

Ambitwistor: mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.

Yes we do.


No we don't!
 
2014-08-15 12:27:15 PM  

Ambitwistor: mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.

Yes we do.


No we don't.
 
2014-08-15 12:30:03 PM  

Kiler: Ambitwistor: mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.

Yes we do.

No we don't.


Yes, we do.   Those that don't agree are trolling.
 
2014-08-15 12:31:06 PM  

mainsail: Ambitwistor: mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.

Yes we do.

No we don't.


Can we agree Fark is disagreeable?
 
2014-08-15 12:33:40 PM  

snocone: mainsail: Ambitwistor: mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.

Yes we do.

No we don't.

Can we agree Fark is disagreeable?


No
 
2014-08-15 12:33:56 PM  

abhorrent1: Why don' they just join the army and go to Afghanistan then?


Because the Afghans also have machine guns. They're like high school bullies. Only pick on those who can't really fight back.
 
2014-08-15 12:35:39 PM  

Ambitwistor: mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.

Yes we do.


No we don't!
 
2014-08-15 12:36:54 PM  
I can't understand what the police needs with camouflage. What tactical exercise are they participating in that requires them to be hidden in trees and foliage? I just really don't understand that. It really can only be that they are looking to intimidate. Since that is apparently the case, what is up with the patented cop mustache? That is the least intimidating look that anyone can achieve.
 
2014-08-15 12:38:38 PM  

Kiler: snocone: mainsail: Ambitwistor: mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.

Yes we do.

No we don't.

Can we agree Fark is disagreeable?

No


Yes!

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-15 12:38:47 PM  

tylerdurden217: I can't understand what the police needs with camouflage. What tactical exercise are they participating in that requires them to be hidden in trees and foliage? I just really don't understand that. It really can only be that they are looking to intimidate. Since that is apparently the case, what is up with the patented cop mustache? That is the least intimidating look that anyone can achieve.


No, it isn't.
 
2014-08-15 12:38:47 PM  
A few comments about the whole thing.

My initial reaction of the incident was to wait for facts to come out.  They did and they are wholly different than initially reported.  Is it possible the cop still should face manslaughter or lesser charges, absolutely.  Did the cop decide to hassle a successful and attractive dude walking down the street and murder him for no reason.  NO.  We just have to wait for all the facts to come out.

As for the police adopting military gear and tactics, I agree with the Farkconsensus it's getting out of hand and needs to be stopped.  I think you can find bi-partisan agreement here.  There is a lot of support on the right (including Tea Party types of which I'd consider myself a member).  If you feel like you won't get cooties, Kevin Williamson at NRO has a good piece on it.
 
2014-08-15 12:38:53 PM  
mainsail:

Ambitwistor:

Kiler:

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs:

melalton:

beakerxf:

snocone:


I've never seen so many people so wrong before.

/before anyone asks, I've never been to the RNC
 
2014-08-15 12:43:51 PM  
He confused Helen Keller for Ann Frank and then said "Rest in Peace, Michael Brown" while holding up a picture of Kwame Brown?
 
2014-08-15 12:47:19 PM  

TwoBeersOneCan: mainsail:

Ambitwistor:

Kiler:

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs:

melalton:

beakerxf:

snocone:

I've never seen so many people so wrong before.

/before anyone asks, I've never been to the RNC


Yes you have.
 
2014-08-15 12:56:22 PM  

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs: TwoBeersOneCan: mainsail:

Ambitwistor:

Kiler:

Jiro Dreams Of McRibs:

melalton:

beakerxf:

snocone:

I've never seen so many people so wrong before.

/before anyone asks, I've never been to the RNC

Yes you have.


No, he hasn't.
 
2014-08-15 12:58:12 PM  

CivicMindedFive: A few comments about the whole thing.

As for the police adopting military gear and tactics, I agree with the Farkconsensus it's getting out of hand and needs to be stopped.  I think you can find bi-partisan agreement here.  There is a lot of support on the right (including Tea Party types of which I'd consider myself a member).  If you feel like you won't get cooties, Kevin Williamson at NRO has a good piece on it.


My only caveat about police giving up military gear is based the pic posted above.


 img.fark.net

If these guys who want to confront and have confronted LEO with weapons and other gear they don't want the LEOs to carry, then I have a problem with that.

There are lots of people who want the cops to not have access to the same equipment in that picture at all. I don't mind the cops having the equipment and I don't mind the cops deploying it when necessary and using it properly. Ferguson is not an example of proper equipment and proper use of that equipment.

I respect people who honestly want to ratchet things down in this country. I don't respect people who can't wait to take arms and armor from the LEOs they hate and want to kill. And there are plenty of those kinds of people in this country. And its PRECISELY because those kinds of people (and the weapons they have access to) exist in this country that police have to have extraordinary equipment and tactics.
i182.photobucket.com

vs.

  news.bbcimg.co.uk

Both are wearing body armor. One's a hero and the other is farking cop.
 
2014-08-15 12:59:39 PM  
Oops. I left out the part about gang members having better fire power and other equipment than the cops, too. Sorry. Too busy pasting.
 
2014-08-15 01:06:47 PM  

tylerdurden217: I can't understand what the police needs with camouflage. What tactical exercise are they participating in that requires them to be hidden in trees and foliage? I just really don't understand that. It really can only be that they are looking to intimidate. Since that is apparently the case, what is up with the patented cop mustache? That is the least intimidating look that anyone can achieve.


It's a holdover from when mustaches were considered manly, and it's quickly being replaced by the clean-shaven skinhead look. Beards used to be the thing to have, but then chemical warfare became a thing and people realized you can't wear a gas mask with a beard. From that point, the manly soldier types were clean-shaven, with a bold few sporting mustaches. Nowadays, the badass operator types have beards, so the fashion is reversing itself.

For cops, it has the additional benefit of anonymity, much like a surgeon's mask. If you're dealing with a white guy with a mustache and sunglasses, the mustache will be what catches your attention. This makes your description of him completely useless when every cop is a white guy with a mustache.

/dad was a cop when they all had mustaches
//brother was a cop more recently, and I have a lot of cop friends
///ex-military, myself
////we all agree that the militarization of police is going way too far
 
2014-08-15 01:11:49 PM  

snocone: mainsail: Ambitwistor: mainsail: Fark doesn't even agree with *Fark*.

Yes we do.

No we don't.

Can we agree Fark is disagreeable?


I disagree with the disagreement.
 
2014-08-15 01:17:22 PM  

Ambitwistor: [cdn.grumpyelder.com image 300x167]


In 1975, when "S.W.A.T." became a TV show, and entered the consciousness of people who would grow up to be today's cops.

Yes, I'm serious.  I do blame the TV show for some component of this.  That is where it started.  I don't know who convinced LAPD to be their model, but I blame him, too.

"COPS" doesn't help, either.
 
2014-08-15 01:22:48 PM  

Sliding Carp: Ambitwistor: [cdn.grumpyelder.com image 300x167]

In 1975, when "S.W.A.T." became a TV show, and entered the consciousness of people who would grow up to be today's cops.

Yes, I'm serious.  I do blame the TV show for some component of this.  That is where it started.  I don't know who convinced LAPD to be their model, but I blame him, too.

"COPS" doesn't help, either.


I suggest a time AND a place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

specifically when the cops had to 1. borrow high powered rifles from a gun shop and 2. commandeer an civilian armored truck
 
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