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2014-08-15 10:09:11 AM  
I'm sure it varies a lot by degree. This was from a survey of college professors in the U.S. in 2009.


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2014-08-15 10:21:02 AM  
There's probably a lot more of us than previous generations. Don't know if that has to do with us also being the most educated or if its some other influence, like the internet.

/hope more turn out atheist.
 
2014-08-15 10:43:05 AM  
Well, Most of them won't force you to suck off a priest.

Most of them.
 
2014-08-15 10:45:15 AM  
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2014-08-15 10:45:55 AM  
There aren't any atheists in a gloryhole
 
2014-08-15 10:46:53 AM  
Any place that people of above average intelligence gather will have a higher than average rate of atheism/agnostics.

There does tend to be a correlation between intelligence and not believing.

Yes some break the rules. One idiot atheists and clever xians
 
2014-08-15 10:47:15 AM  

Sybarite: I'm sure it varies a lot by degree. This was from a survey of college professors in the U.S. in 2009.


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I guess that goes to show why accountants end up choosing that profession.  Follow the rules without question and have no imagination.
 
2014-08-15 10:47:23 AM  

lockers: There aren't any atheists in a gloryhole


Because they are the gloryhole?
 
2014-08-15 10:48:13 AM  
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2014-08-15 10:48:44 AM  
The only atheist factory I've ever seen was church itself.
 
2014-08-15 10:50:37 AM  

lockers: There aren't any atheists in a gloryhole


Not true, I was in there the other day and the guy kept on calling out to Him.
 
2014-08-15 10:51:06 AM  

CleanAndPure: Any place that people of above average intelligence gather will have a higher than average rate of atheism/agnostics.

There does tend to be a correlation between intelligence and not believing.

Yes some break the rules. One idiot atheists and clever xians


Hate to say it but quotation? or you're just assuming?

I'm not religious but if Fark as proved something to me beyond doubt that the self-proclaimed atheists are the stupidest, most close-minded group of assholes on Fark.

And every time there's news about an atheist or a anything about a group of them, it promotes the idea that the stupidity is far from being limited to Fark.
 
2014-08-15 10:51:29 AM  

Sybarite: I'm sure it varies a lot by degree. This was from a survey of college professors in the U.S. in 2009.


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Strange.
Especially the difference between a BSME and a BSEE.
But mostly the faith based Accounting.
 
2014-08-15 10:51:30 AM  

Winning: lockers: There aren't any atheists in a gloryhole

Not true, I was in there the other day and the guy kept on calling out to Him.


I read that wrong... It's early. WHERE'S MY GODDAMN COFFEE!
 
2014-08-15 10:51:36 AM  

Sybarite: I'm sure it varies a lot by degree. This was from a survey of college professors in the U.S. in 2009.


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I am shocked that education majors are all idiots. I never would have guessed.

/that was sarcasm, for those of you who majored in education.
 
2014-08-15 10:51:57 AM  
An atheist is not necessarily more intelligent.

/Objectivist
 
2014-08-15 10:52:14 AM  
I, for one, am completely surprised that education and exposure to other ideas would influence a decision to examine what I've been taught to believe as a child.
 
2014-08-15 10:52:59 AM  
A good college should make you question what has infiltrated your brain for the first eighteen years of your life.  It's not as important what you learn in college -, (at least the first couple years, before declaring a major) - you should learn how to learn, however.  Critical thinking, and all that jazz.

Kids at eighteen ought to question their learned beliefs.

/staying up nights pondering the existence of a dog
 
2014-08-15 10:53:09 AM  
Catholic high schools are good at creating atheists...
 
2014-08-15 10:53:15 AM  

theotherles: An atheist is not necessarily more intelligent.

/Objectivist


Ayn Rand was objectively a poor writer and philosopher.
 
2014-08-15 10:54:24 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-15 10:54:42 AM  

Rapmaster2000: [pbs.twimg.com image 599x507]


First of all: jackiechanwtfdidijustread.jpg

Second of all: That was hilarious.  Where did it come from?
 
2014-08-15 10:54:42 AM  
Although today's 18- to 34-year-olds   than their parents or grandparents were at that age, there's evidence that this generation may return to the pews as they start getting married and having kids-just like the generations before them, Schwadel said.

That certainly holds from my own anecdotal evidence. I know a ton of people of or about my age that spent their 20's sleeping in every Sunday, then turned into Ned Flanders as soon as they married/popped out a kid.
 
2014-08-15 10:54:55 AM  
My college Bible study leader is the one responsible for sending me on the path to atheism.  It wasn't a liberal professor.
 
2014-08-15 10:55:09 AM  

Winning: lockers: There aren't any atheists in a gloryhole

Not true, I was in there the other day and the guy kept on calling out to Him.



The greatest proof that God exists is the fact that the penis fits perfectly into a well-oiled anus.
 
2014-08-15 10:55:43 AM  

raerae1980: There's probably a lot more of us than previous generations. Don't know if that has to do with us also being the most educated or if its some other influence, like the internet.

/hope more turn out atheist.


i don't.

i don't really care what people believe.  I only care how people believe.  (whether or not they decide to be assholes or not)
 
2014-08-15 10:55:47 AM  

bagumpity: Rapmaster2000: [pbs.twimg.com image 599x507]

First of all: jackiechanwtfdidijustread.jpg

Second of all: That was hilarious.  Where did it come from?


Just search for "Marine Todd" and waste the next hour of your life.
 
2014-08-15 10:55:47 AM  
I have faith that 'secret atheists' are the fastest growing group. They're putting on a show for their parents and grand parents. Obama is likely one of them, interested in the history aspect but not talking to Sky Guy for advice.

Imagine that in 2014 the greatest political poison in the most advanced, developed nation on Earth is not believing in Sky Guy. Crazy.
 
2014-08-15 10:55:51 AM  

lockers: theotherles: An atheist is not necessarily more intelligent.

/Objectivist

Ayn Rand was objectively a poor writer and philosopher.


She was a bad person.

If I was religious, I would hope she found piece in whatever afterlife she believed in.  Granted, she wasn't a believer, but it's the sentiment that counts, right?
 
2014-08-15 10:56:02 AM  

Rapmaster2000: [i.imgur.com image 850x307]


That is a great Marine Todd parody.
 
2014-08-15 10:56:26 AM  

imfallen_angel: I'm not religious but if Fark as proved something to me beyond doubt that the self-proclaimed atheists are the stupidest, most close-minded group of assholes on Fark.



Really? Go to the Gohmert thread in the Politics tab.
 
2014-08-15 10:57:29 AM  
If you want religious training go to a seminary

If you want an education based on reasoning don't expect a college to spend a lot of time talking about magical explanations for why the world works

Is that really so difficult to comprehend?
 
2014-08-15 10:57:31 AM  

theotherles: An atheist is not necessarily more intelligent.

/Objectivist


I'm reminded of the time Ayn Rand met William F. Buckley. She told him he was much too intelligent to believe in a God. He trashed her work and her followers as 'cultists.'
 
2014-08-15 10:58:54 AM  
Only people who have grown up with religious families are likely to state they are religious in college.
Just like determining what people want to do for a living, most people need time to make up their minds and athiest is a healthy skepticism when everyone is trying to tell you that they know best what you should do.
It took me until my mid 30's before I developed spirituality.   The more you push someone into a religion the more they will resist.
 
2014-08-15 10:58:59 AM  

bagumpity: Second of all: That was hilarious.  Where did it come from?


4chan, I think. Do not go there.

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
 
2014-08-15 10:59:25 AM  

Lord_Baull: imfallen_angel: I'm not religious but if Fark as proved something to me beyond doubt that the self-proclaimed atheists are the stupidest, most close-minded group of assholes on Fark.


Really? Go to the Gohmert thread in the Politics tab.


Who would proclaim someone an atheist except the person who makes the statement?
 
2014-08-15 10:59:28 AM  

Sybarite: I'm sure it varies a lot by degree. This was from a survey of college professors in the U.S. in 2009.


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A professor's belief system has very little to do with where the student ends up on that spectrum, especially considering how rarely a student will interact with a professor for more than one class.
 
2014-08-15 11:00:14 AM  
Who does the author expect me to be a credit me source if information? Uneducated, gullible individuals who accept urban legends as though they were proven reality and who dismiss all college educated persons as liberal elitists, or people who have actually studied reality? It might seem like the latter group would be more trustworthy, but consider that they all attended college, making them Godless liberal elitists. With that in mind, the credible choice is clear.
 
2014-08-15 11:00:59 AM  
If any form of education beyond grade school doesn't increase the likelihood that an individual isn't religious then it's not very educational.
 
2014-08-15 11:01:00 AM  

imfallen_angel: CleanAndPure: Any place that people of above average intelligence gather will have a higher than average rate of atheism/agnostics.

There does tend to be a correlation between intelligence and not believing.

Yes some break the rules. One idiot atheists and clever xians

Hate to say it but quotation? or you're just assuming?

I'm not religious but if Fark as proved something to me beyond doubt that the self-proclaimed atheists are the stupidest, most close-minded group of assholes on Fark.

And every time there's news about an atheist or a anything about a group of them, it promotes the idea that the stupidity is far from being limited to Fark.


Lots is studies done in the West and almost all come to same conclusion:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000238

Being religious doesn't necessarily mean you are stupid or vice versa however religion and lower intelligence are linked.
 
2014-08-15 11:01:05 AM  
Funny, I went from atheist to agnostic during my time in college.
 
2014-08-15 11:01:13 AM  

pute kisses like a man: raerae1980: There's probably a lot more of us than previous generations. Don't know if that has to do with us also being the most educated or if its some other influence, like the internet.

/hope more turn out atheist.

i don't.

i don't really care what people believe.  I only care how people believe.  (whether or not they decide to be assholes or not)


I used to not care, but I'm female and pretty angry at how religion treats women.
 
2014-08-15 11:02:30 AM  

cefm: Sybarite: I'm sure it varies a lot by degree. This was from a survey of college professors in the U.S. in 2009.


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I guess that goes to show why accountants end up choosing that profession.  Follow the rules without question and have no imagination.


Dude, you so miss the point of accounting.

Its knowing the rules and then how to bend them to maximize personal benefit, just like Baptists and Bible rules.

Abortions are evil, unless it is me and as long and nobody sees me.
Lying is prohibited by the commandments, unless you are doing it to further God's cause, then its forgiven.
Thou shall not kill is really thou shall not murders.  Dropping bombs on brown people around the world that have ability to hurt you is defense.
Its easier for a rich man to got through the eye of a needle and get into heaven.  This is actually one of the few metaphors in an otherwise literal book.  The eye of the needle was a low gate back in the holy lands that you had to stoop to go through, so you just need to bow... not actually go through a need eye.  That would be ludicrous.
Don't drink, and if you do, at least don't talk to the other church members in the liquor store.

And many, many more...
 
2014-08-15 11:05:23 AM  
But really, you shouldn't chance it with your kids... home college them.
 
2014-08-15 11:06:02 AM  

wingnut396: cefm: Sybarite: I'm sure it varies a lot by degree. This was from a survey of college professors in the U.S. in 2009.


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I guess that goes to show why accountants end up choosing that profession.  Follow the rules without question and have no imagination.

Dude, you so miss the point of accounting.

Its knowing the rules and then how to bend them to maximize personal benefit, just like Baptists and Bible rules.

Abortions are evil, unless it is me and as long and nobody sees me.
Lying is prohibited by the commandments, unless you are doing it to further God's cause, then its forgiven.
Thou shall not kill is really thou shall not murders.  Dropping bombs on brown people around the world that have ability to hurt you is defense.
Its easier for a rich man to got through the eye of a needle and get into heaven.  This is actually one of the few metaphors in an otherwise literal book.  The eye of the needle was a low gate back in the holy lands that you had to stoop to go through, so you just need to bow... not actually go through a need eye.  That would be ludicrous.
Don't drink, and if you do, at least don't talk to the other church members in the liquor store.

And many, many more...


Mechanical engineers work on things they can see.  Electricity is not visible, only its effects can be measured.  Requires more faith.
 
2014-08-15 11:06:52 AM  

CleanAndPure: There does tend to be a correlation between intelligence and not believing.


It has nothing to do with intelligence it has to do with arrogance. Do you know the saying the smarter you are the more gullible you are? The greatest hoaxes in history were done to the intelligent. Pride and arrogance have led to the downfall of many.
 
2014-08-15 11:07:42 AM  

TwoBeersOneCan: Rapmaster2000: [i.imgur.com image 850x307]

That is a great Marine Todd parody.


Wait, I thought Marine Todd was a parody.
 
2014-08-15 11:08:22 AM  

Hobo Jr.: Funny, I went from atheist to agnostic during my time in college.


So you went to college and managed to avoid learning what those words actually mean?  I bet you have lots of good party stories.

here's a hint, they have nothing to do with each other.
 
2014-08-15 11:08:35 AM  

CleanAndPure: Lots is studies done in the West and almost all come to same conclusion:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000238

Being religious doesn't necessarily mean you are stupid or vice versa however religion and lower intelligence are linked.


Funny that you use a source that I'd believe slightly biaised.

But I've seen stupidity all my life, regardless of beliefs.  But I've been able to sit with very religious people (including priests) and have very intelligent conversations.  Atheists... not so much, they are usually completely set in their ways.  I've had more atheists try to convert me (and others) than religious ones...And in comparing these people (the ones that tries to convert others), they were at the same level of low intelligence.
 
2014-08-15 11:09:24 AM  

theotherles: An atheist is not necessarily more intelligent.

/Objectivist


That is true.  More educated people, however, are more likely to be atheists or at least question their faith.  Is that because the religious doctrine, mythology and history seem more like elaborate ruses or because they've figured out how to find answers from more than just one book?

I don't know.  I'm not an atheist and I only have a BSIE, but it is pretty much "never" that I seek answers in the Bible, other than to find out whether something that a person is claiming from the Bible is actually in there.
 
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