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2014-08-15 11:45:20 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: It's pretty well established in the expanded universe (even if Disney made it all non-canon) that the Empire wasn't 100% wiped out at Endor.  Which, as other Farkers have pointed out, is frankly quite logical.  I suspect that the Imperials of the new movie will be fighting for the Imperial Remnant, with the "good guys" being the New Republic or something like that.  They may change the names a bit to differentiate from the EU books, but the gist will be similar.


I would think so.  A New Republic was established but even then there are still remnants of the Empire still exist mostly on the outlying star systems.
 
2014-08-15 11:50:25 AM  

Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.


If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.
 
2014-08-15 12:06:49 PM  

strangeguitar: Alphax: NeoCortex42: Well, thanks to the Special Editions, we know that Coruscant was celebrating the moment Palpatine and the second Death Star were destroyed.  So for some reason, they had a bunch of celebratory fireworks ready to go for when their government collapsed.

One of the later Rogue Squadron books claimed a pro-Rebel splinter group was behind that, and the statue being pulled down.. then the stormtroopers showed up to restore order, and they didn't bother with stun settings, just opened fire on the crowd.

I know that EU is non-canon now, but who is to say that celebration happened at the same time? Plus I love the idea of some troopers just getting out there and laying waste to rebel scum. One minute they're pulling down a statue and the next they have a laser bolt up their arse.

/BTW, love the new helmet.


I'm glad to hear this, the first time I saw the revised edition or whatever the hell its called, I turned to my friend and said "and 15 seconds later, the fleet began its orbital bombardment."
 
2014-08-15 12:15:50 PM  

qorkfiend: Saiga410: ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

You dont think Luke wouldnt have gotten power hungry and taken over the role as a dictator.  If you have studied history all but a few rebellions actually reverted to earlier forms of govt or a more democratic form. They generally turn into the form of govt they overthrow.

The Emperor attempting to corrupt first Vader and then Luke by tempting them with power, and Vader succumbing while Luke resisted, is literally the key conflict of the entire series. So, no.


Maybe thne but after a few years of the purging of the old empire's middle management Luke would have been morally and emotionally exhausted.  Something like a modern futures past of Robespiere
 
2014-08-15 12:21:12 PM  

Blathering Idjut: [media.comicbook.com image 800x645]

What is it with Abrams that the tech in every movie he makes looks like it was designed by Apple engineers?


I'm pretty sure this renderings are as "real" as the renderings you see of non-existant Apple products every year.
 
2014-08-15 12:36:09 PM  

NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


I'm tempted to bet a Total Fark subscription for a month on these sequels being a repeat of the prequels.  Difference being a) luke's Padawan resists the dark side to become a Jedi and b) Luke dies at the end.
 
2014-08-15 12:53:19 PM  

Rwa2play: HMS_Blinkin: It's pretty well established in the expanded universe (even if Disney made it all non-canon) that the Empire wasn't 100% wiped out at Endor.  Which, as other Farkers have pointed out, is frankly quite logical.  I suspect that the Imperials of the new movie will be fighting for the Imperial Remnant, with the "good guys" being the New Republic or something like that.  They may change the names a bit to differentiate from the EU books, but the gist will be similar.

I would think so.  A New Republic was established but even then there are still remnants of the Empire still exist mostly on the outlying star systems.


I could see that if it happened right after Jedi. But this is 30 years later. And these imperials look quite polished. I would imagine they don't have access to the same resources they once had. They should have a more weathered look to them. Like the rebels did.
 
2014-08-15 01:00:37 PM  

Mugato: Omis: Kyro: Cybernetic: That always bugged me. On the one hand, they're some kind of elite fighting force. On the other hand, they're such bad shots that they couldn't hit a building if they were standing inside.

Pretty much every time you've seen them miss they were under orders to do so.

You can't track Leia back to the Rebel base if she doesn't escape the Death Star.

You can't carbon-freeze Luke if you summarily execute him in Cloud City.

They were beaten down by Ewoks with twigs.

It was sort of an allegory. A large military force invades a technologically inferior people and gets their ass kicked, happened before.


I get the allegory but it was poorly handled.
 
2014-08-15 01:10:37 PM  

NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.



Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.
 
2014-08-15 01:20:50 PM  

Omis: Rwa2play: HMS_Blinkin: It's pretty well established in the expanded universe (even if Disney made it all non-canon) that the Empire wasn't 100% wiped out at Endor.  Which, as other Farkers have pointed out, is frankly quite logical.  I suspect that the Imperials of the new movie will be fighting for the Imperial Remnant, with the "good guys" being the New Republic or something like that.  They may change the names a bit to differentiate from the EU books, but the gist will be similar.

I would think so.  A New Republic was established but even then there are still remnants of the Empire still exist mostly on the outlying star systems.

I could see that if it happened right after Jedi. But this is 30 years later. And these imperials look quite polished. I would imagine they don't have access to the same resources they once had. They should have a more weathered look to them. Like the rebels did.


Why?  The galaxy contains well over a thousand planets.  Even if they only held 100 planets (1/10th of the galaxy), that would still be a shiat-ton of resources.  And because they are totalitarian, they can divert excessive ratios of resources to the military.  Look at how well North Korean soldiers are fed compared to their civilians.
 
2014-08-15 01:42:26 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Omis: Rwa2play: HMS_Blinkin: It's pretty well established in the expanded universe (even if Disney made it all non-canon) that the Empire wasn't 100% wiped out at Endor.  Which, as other Farkers have pointed out, is frankly quite logical.  I suspect that the Imperials of the new movie will be fighting for the Imperial Remnant, with the "good guys" being the New Republic or something like that.  They may change the names a bit to differentiate from the EU books, but the gist will be similar.

I would think so.  A New Republic was established but even then there are still remnants of the Empire still exist mostly on the outlying star systems.

I could see that if it happened right after Jedi. But this is 30 years later. And these imperials look quite polished. I would imagine they don't have access to the same resources they once had. They should have a more weathered look to them. Like the rebels did.

Why?  The galaxy contains well over a thousand planets.  Even if they only held 100 planets (1/10th of the galaxy), that would still be a shiat-ton of resources.  And because they are totalitarian, they can divert excessive ratios of resources to the military.  Look at how well North Korean soldiers are fed compared to their civilians.


For the same reason the rebels were in the original trilogy. Visual story telling. The Death Star was the only thing keeping systems in line. They said so in episode 4. After RotJ, the imperials should be struggling. Otherwise there was no point in telling those stories. Really they should be moving away from the imperials as the villains to something new. What handful are left should be joining forces with some new enemy making a play for power.
 
2014-08-15 01:57:27 PM  

Detz: NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.


Reven is coming back.

Fit, trim and not looking a day over a millennia.
This galaxy deserves a better class of sith. And he's going to give it to them.

Everyone kiss their assholes goodbye.
 
2014-08-15 02:35:39 PM  

Detz: NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.


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'Tatooine and Endor is yours.  Do as you wish.  None shall interfere.'
 
2014-08-15 02:41:10 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Detz: NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.

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'Tatooine and Endor is yours.  Do as you wish.  None shall interfere.'  Mendoza!!!!!!



FTFY
 
2014-08-15 03:27:42 PM  

Alphax: Klivian: Alphax: Klivian: IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.

I think the original Thrawn trilogy was set 5 years after Endor, but Rogue Squadron was involved in taking Coruscant much sooner.  A diplomatic Victory Tour after Endor, then bringing in new members like Corran Horn.

Per wiki, the X-Wing novels (in the second of which, Coruscant falls) take place 6.5-7.5 years after Yavin, having trouble finding out how long it was between Yavin and Endor, and this is now officially the geekiest discussion on the internet

Yavin to Endor was 7 years.  Luke was 20 in ANH, 23 in TESB, and 27 in ROTJ.


I'm pretty sure TESB to ROTJ was officially only a year or so, according to most of the published canon.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_galactic_history
 
2014-08-15 04:30:03 PM  

Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?


They're clones. You don't individually wrap the two for $10 box of ornaments you buy at Big Lots to fill space on your tree. They're there to look pretty and distract you from the plot holes... err holes in the tree.
 
2014-08-15 04:47:46 PM  
So, how long until the 501st members have made a replica? And when can I get the pepakura files?
 
2014-08-15 06:02:17 PM  
After reading the supposed leaks that, again, have come out today along with this helmet, I really hope to FSM that this is all just one big troll. Because the plot sounds pants on head farking retarded.
 
2014-08-15 11:22:47 PM  

jayphat: After reading the supposed leaks that, again, have come out today along with this helmet, I really hope to FSM that this is all just one big troll. Because the plot sounds pants on head farking retarded.


Where have you heard the official plot? All I have seen is speculation.
 
2014-08-15 11:40:15 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Detz: NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.

Reven is coming back.

Fit, trim and not looking a day over a millennia.
This galaxy deserves a better class of sith. And She's going to give it to them.

Everyone kiss their assholes goodbye.


Fixed that for ya.
 
2014-08-15 11:59:17 PM  
Going to laugh when 150 nerds who haven't taken a bath since 1977 watch a 4-man fire team of stormtroopers mow down a dozen jedi in a matter of seconds with a perfectly coordinated ambush.
 
2014-08-16 01:53:56 AM  

croesius: MurphyMurphy: Detz: NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.

Reven is coming back.

Fit, trim and not looking a day over a millennia.
This galaxy deserves a better class of sith. And She's going to give it to them.

Everyone kiss their assholes goodbye.

Fixed that for ya.


Legit.
 
2014-08-16 04:36:23 AM  

NathanAllen: Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?

They're clones. You don't individually wrap the two for $10 box of ornaments you buy at Big Lots to fill space on your tree. They're there to look pretty and distract you from the plot holes... err holes in the tree.


Clones during the Clone Wars.. after that, no one wanted anything to do with clones.  Imperial Stormtroopers are mostly conscripts.
 
2014-08-16 07:16:20 AM  

juvandy: Alphax: Klivian: Alphax: Klivian: IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.

I think the original Thrawn trilogy was set 5 years after Endor, but Rogue Squadron was involved in taking Coruscant much sooner.  A diplomatic Victory Tour after Endor, then bringing in new members like Corran Horn.

Per wiki, the X-Wing novels (in the second of which, Coruscant falls) take place 6.5-7.5 years after Yavin, having trouble finding out how long it was between Yavin and Endor, and this is now officially the geekiest discussion on the internet

Yavin to Endor was 7 years.  Luke was 20 in ANH, 23 in TESB, and 27 in ROTJ.

I'm pretty sure TESB to ROTJ was officially only a year or so, according to most of the published canon.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_galactic_history


Correct.


32 BBY - Episode I
22 BBY - Episode II
22-19 BBY - The Clone Wars (movie + TV series)
19 BBY - Episode III
5 BBY - Rebels (upcoming TV series)
0 BBY/ABY - SW
3 ABY - ESB
4 ABY - Jedi

5 ABY - Jedi Knight (1, video game)
6-7 ABY - Liberation of Coruscant (Rogue Squadron books)
9 ABY - Thrawn trilogy
11 ABY - Jedi Academy trilogy
12 ABY - Jedi Outcast (video game)
19 ABY - Peace treaty between the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant (Hand of Thrawn duology)
 
2014-08-16 07:58:16 AM  
I think it's pretty much certain that Ian McDiarmid will be a BAM! TWIST! given that the actor is still on the top of his game, there's an entirely makes-sense-plot-wise way into it, and that it's the backbone of all previous post-films universe stuff (even though that's no longer "official").

An he and Max Von Sydow would play off each other perfectly.
 
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