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2014-08-14 08:56:19 PM  
Looks pretty badass to me.
 
2014-08-14 11:48:50 PM  
"Jungle Trooper,"

That's racist?
 
2014-08-15 12:27:57 AM  
So after 30 years the Empire still exists?
 
2014-08-15 12:31:25 AM  
ROFL
badass ???

farktards still cant aim....
YAWN
 
2014-08-15 12:34:27 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


I hope so. I can't believe such an amazing entity only lasted 20 some years ...
 
2014-08-15 01:26:34 AM  
they still wont hit anything.
 
2014-08-15 01:44:35 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Just because the emperor is dead doesn't mean his massive bureaucracy is dead.

I'm just guessing. I'm pretty drunk ...
 
2014-08-15 01:49:28 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.
 
2014-08-15 02:02:58 AM  

cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.


My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.
 
2014-08-15 02:10:39 AM  

ragekage: My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.


I think that's a valid question, and wouldn't the remnant of the Empire now be the rebels?

I'll have to go watch Jedi to get a better sense of the ending
 
2014-08-15 04:28:24 AM  
Remind me to jerk off.
 
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2014-08-15 05:06:59 AM  
So they are carrying flashlights?
 
2014-08-15 05:10:36 AM  
cdn.thewire.com
 
2014-08-15 06:18:38 AM  

ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.


This is an empire spread out over 1000+ worlds.  Not all of them went with the rebels.  50 or 60 core systems with a decent infrastructure could keep a fight going for a long time,  Not everyone wanted to join the rebels.  And, while the Empire probably had it's best fleet at Endor, it certainly had plenty of units spread out across the galaxy, with some form of military command structure surviving.  Just think about the US today.  If you managed to wipe out every military member stationed in the entire lower 48 states, we would still have tens of thousands of troops, hundreds of aircraft, and dozens of ships.  They may be cut off and disjointed, but a decent commander, falling back on any sort of industrial base (and I just said we somehow killed just the military personnel, the way the rebels in RotJ managed to, not wiped out the US itself) could still use what was left to rain hell down on most of the rest of the world.

 It would take a loosely knit rebel alliance that's trying to become a real government, with troops that figure "the war is over, I want to go home" decades to crush what was left of Palpatine's Empire.
 
2014-08-15 06:38:16 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Well, fear has kept the local systems in line.
 
2014-08-15 07:00:49 AM  
So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?
 
2014-08-15 07:01:33 AM  

devildog123: ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

This is an empire spread out over 1000+ worlds.  Not all of them went with the rebels.  50 or 60 core systems with a decent infrastructure could keep a fight going for a long time,  Not everyone wanted to join the rebels.  And, while the Empire probably had it's best fleet at Endor, it certainly had plenty of units spread out across the galaxy, with some form of military command structure surviving.  Just think about the US today.  If you managed to wipe out every military member stationed in the entire lower 48 states, we would still have tens of thousands of troops, hundreds of aircraft, and dozens of ships.  They may be cut off and disjointed, but a decent commander, falling back on any sort of industrial base (and I just said we somehow killed just the military personnel, the way the rebels in RotJ managed to, not wiped out the US itself) could still use what was left to rain hell down on most of the rest of the world.

 It would take a loosely knit rebel alliance that's trying to become a real government, with troops that figure "the war is over, I want to go home" decades to crush what was left of Palpatine's Empire.


Under the timelines from the books, there was still an Imperial Remnant of about a quarter of known space left, decades after Endor.  The Rebels declared themselves a New Republic after Endor, and took Coruscant about a year or so later, from the head of Imperial Intelligence.
 
2014-08-15 07:09:44 AM  

Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?


It's not armor.  They all have Klohne's Disease.  It's a casing that keeps all their organs from falling out.
 
2014-08-15 07:09:51 AM  

Alphax: devildog123: ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

This is an empire spread out over 1000+ worlds.  Not all of them went with the rebels.  50 or 60 core systems with a decent infrastructure could keep a fight going for a long time,  Not everyone wanted to join the rebels.  And, while the Empire probably had it's best fleet at Endor, it certainly had plenty of units spread out across the galaxy, with some form of military command structure surviving.  Just think about the US today.  If you managed to wipe out every military member stationed in the entire lower 48 states, we would still have tens of thousands of troops, hundreds of aircraft, and dozens of ships.  They may be cut off and disjointed, but a decent commander, falling back on any sort of industrial base (and I just said we somehow killed just the military personnel, the way the rebels in RotJ managed to, not wiped out the US itself) could still use what was left to rain hell down on most of the rest of the world.

 It would take a loosely knit rebel alliance that's trying to become a real government, with troops that figure "the war is over, I want to go home" decades to crush what was left of Palpatine's Empire.

Under the timelines from the books, there was still an Imperial Remnant of about a quarter of known space left, decades after Endor.  The Rebels declared themselves a New Republic after Endor, and took Coruscant about a year or so later, from the head of Imperi ...


See, there you go.  I didn't read any of the books past Zahn's "Admiral Thrawn" books, and I read those when they first came out a long time ago.  But yeah, I would expect the New Republic to be dealing with stormtroopers and an "Empire" long after the grandchildren of the original rebels were dead.
 
2014-08-15 07:17:28 AM  

Alphax: devildog123: ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

This is an empire spread out over 1000+ worlds.  Not all of them went with the rebels.  50 or 60 core systems with a decent infrastructure could keep a fight going for a long time,  Not everyone wanted to join the rebels.  And, while the Empire probably had it's best fleet at Endor, it certainly had plenty of units spread out across the galaxy, with some form of military command structure surviving.  Just think about the US today.  If you managed to wipe out every military member stationed in the entire lower 48 states, we would still have tens of thousands of troops, hundreds of aircraft, and dozens of ships.  They may be cut off and disjointed, but a decent commander, falling back on any sort of industrial base (and I just said we somehow killed just the military personnel, the way the rebels in RotJ managed to, not wiped out the US itself) could still use what was left to rain hell down on most of the rest of the world.

 It would take a loosely knit rebel alliance that's trying to become a real government, with troops that figure "the war is over, I want to go home" decades to crush what was left of Palpatine's Empire.

Under the timelines from the books, there was still an Imperial Remnant of about a quarter of known space left, decades after Endor.  The Rebels declared themselves a New Republic after Endor, and took Coruscant about a year or so later, from the head of Imperi ...


IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.

It's funny to read the "take out all troops in the US" scenario, as that is almost the Thrawn trilogy to a T. Thrawn comes back after Endor, unites everyone under the justification he's a Grand Admiral, and then starts hitting the complacent New Republic forces.

/at work, so no click, and came hoping someone would share
//leaving disappointed, and saddened by how much my brain has retained of the EU
///Still hoping to burn out the part that has the New Jedi Order era stuff
//May the slashies be with you
 
2014-08-15 07:18:33 AM  
I've got a definite space boner right now.
 
2014-08-15 07:19:49 AM  
So what IS the purpose of all that armor, anyway? Doesn't seem to do shiat against laser bolts.
 
2014-08-15 07:23:21 AM  
Meh, military assets tend to hang around throughout regime changes.  It's not rocket surgery.
 
2014-08-15 07:23:27 AM  

Klivian: IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.


I think the original Thrawn trilogy was set 5 years after Endor, but Rogue Squadron was involved in taking Coruscant much sooner.  A diplomatic Victory Tour after Endor, then bringing in new members like Corran Horn.
 
2014-08-15 07:25:53 AM  

spamdog: So what IS the purpose of all that armor, anyway? Doesn't seem to do shiat against laser bolts.


Seems to be about surviving long enough to make it to a medic.  Deflect at least a bit of the energy away from the major organs.
 
2014-08-15 07:30:11 AM  

Alphax: Klivian: IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.

I think the original Thrawn trilogy was set 5 years after Endor, but Rogue Squadron was involved in taking Coruscant much sooner.  A diplomatic Victory Tour after Endor, then bringing in new members like Corran Horn.


Per wiki, the X-Wing novels (in the second of which, Coruscant falls) take place 6.5-7.5 years after Yavin, having trouble finding out how long it was between Yavin and Endor, and this is now officially the geekiest discussion on the internet
 
2014-08-15 07:33:21 AM  

Klivian: Alphax: Klivian: IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.

I think the original Thrawn trilogy was set 5 years after Endor, but Rogue Squadron was involved in taking Coruscant much sooner.  A diplomatic Victory Tour after Endor, then bringing in new members like Corran Horn.

Per wiki, the X-Wing novels (in the second of which, Coruscant falls) take place 6.5-7.5 years after Yavin, having trouble finding out how long it was between Yavin and Endor, and this is now officially the geekiest discussion on the internet


Yavin to Endor was 7 years.  Luke was 20 in ANH, 23 in TESB, and 27 in ROTJ.
 
2014-08-15 07:33:40 AM  

some_beer_drinker: they still wont hit anything.


Fool, take a look at all these blast points!
 
2014-08-15 07:33:57 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Because a 7th Star Wars would work without one of its biggest draws?
 
2014-08-15 07:40:17 AM  
img1.wikia.nocookie.net

Meesa gonna be a big star again!
 
2014-08-15 07:48:11 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Though nowadays all they do is vote against anything that tries to get passed by the galactic senate.
 
2014-08-15 07:48:44 AM  

fusillade762: "Jungle Trooper,"

That's racist?


C'mon and get down
 
2014-08-15 07:56:19 AM  
Star Making Wars already has a custom Fark source icon? Isn't it good form to label sponsored links?
 
2014-08-15 08:00:39 AM  
I like it. :D
 
2014-08-15 08:07:43 AM  

cretinbob: ragekage: My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

I think that's a valid question, and wouldn't the remnant of the Empire now be the rebels?

I'll have to go watch Jedi to get a better sense of the ending


In the Foundation series they break the Empire, and yet still for a while there is an emperor on the imperial homeworld
 
2014-08-15 08:14:29 AM  

verbaltoxin: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Because a 7th Star Wars would work without one of its biggest draws?


Like an Indy film without the Nazis.

Need to have Han claiming something to the effect of, "Imperials, I hate those guys."
 
2014-08-15 08:23:47 AM  
Are there any vulcans left after their home planet is blown up by the red matter death star?
 
2014-08-15 08:37:06 AM  

Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?


It did previously. Armor doesn't automatically make one blaster-proof. It just makes sure they have a good chance of surviving being shot.
 
2014-08-15 08:39:35 AM  

SithLord: verbaltoxin: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Because a 7th Star Wars would work without one of its biggest draws?

Like an Indy film without the Nazis.

Need to have Han claiming something to the effect of, "Imperials, I hate those guys."


It's pretty well established in the expanded universe (even if Disney made it all non-canon) that the Empire wasn't 100% wiped out at Endor.  Which, as other Farkers have pointed out, is frankly quite logical.  I suspect that the Imperials of the new movie will be fighting for the Imperial Remnant, with the "good guys" being the New Republic or something like that.  They may change the names a bit to differentiate from the EU books, but the gist will be similar.
 
2014-08-15 08:41:20 AM  

Kyro: Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?

It did previously. Armor doesn't automatically make one blaster-proof. It just makes sure they have a good chance of surviving being shot.


I remember reading in one of the kid's "star wars dictionary books" when I was little that Stormtrooper armor is impervious to non-energy (i.e. projectile) weapons.  I guess that means the armor isn't totally worthless---although you don't see too many projectile weapons in SW.  That sniper rifle dart that Jango Fett shoots the shapeshifting bounty hunter in Ep. II with is the only example I can think of.
 
2014-08-15 08:44:05 AM  

some_beer_drinker: they still wont hit anything.


Unless ordered to do so.

Shoot up Leia's ship? No problem.
Herd the rebels back to their ship so we can follow them to their base? Sure.
Take out the Rebel base on Hoth? Done.
Herd Luke into the freezing chamber? Gotcha.

The only time Imperial troops ever really failed during a ground assault was against the Ewoks. And you may laugh, but those Ewoks took out the entire Rebel team with one net.
 
2014-08-15 08:46:28 AM  

Kyro: some_beer_drinker: they still wont hit anything.

Unless ordered to do so.

Shoot up Leia's ship? No problem.
Herd the rebels back to their ship so we can follow them to their base? Sure.
Take out the Rebel base on Hoth? Done.
Herd Luke into the freezing chamber? Gotcha.

The only time Imperial troops ever really failed during a ground assault was against the Ewoks. And you may laugh, but those Ewoks took out the entire Rebel team with one net.


They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.
 
2014-08-15 08:48:08 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.


I'm going to give a pass to a squad of grunts failing to spontaneously capture the most notorious pirate there is.
 
2014-08-15 08:54:29 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Kyro: some_beer_drinker: they still wont hit anything.

Unless ordered to do so.

Shoot up Leia's ship? No problem.
Herd the rebels back to their ship so we can follow them to their base? Sure.
Take out the Rebel base on Hoth? Done.
Herd Luke into the freezing chamber? Gotcha.

The only time Imperial troops ever really failed during a ground assault was against the Ewoks. And you may laugh, but those Ewoks took out the entire Rebel team with one net.

They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.


Still could have been part of the plan; Luke wasn't being quiet about "Save the princess"  part of the mission. Before our motley crew left, the order goes out to let them go with minimal resistance, knowing they will go to a newly unmade planet, get picked up, tracked, and allowed to leave, leading the Empire to the rebel base.

It would imply someone with some real long term planning skills, but it's not impossible
 
2014-08-15 08:56:30 AM  

Kyro: HMS_Blinkin: They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.

I'm going to give a pass to a squad of grunts failing to spontaneously capture the most notorious pirate there is.


Was Han really that notorious?

It seemed like no one knew who he was.
 
2014-08-15 08:58:04 AM  
Why are there still stormtroopers?
 
2014-08-15 08:59:40 AM  

Ghost Roach: Still could have been part of the plan; Luke wasn't being quiet about "Save the princess"  part of the mission. Before our motley crew left, the order goes out to let them go with minimal resistance, knowing they will go to a newly unmade planet, get picked up, tracked, and allowed to leave, leading the Empire to the rebel base.

It would imply someone with some real long term planning skills, but it's not impossible


Maybe this is one of those "hindsight is 20/20" things, but intentionally letting the Death Star plans get to the Rebel Base seems like a really, REALLY big risk to take.  When you control as much of the galaxy's territory and military power as the empire did, why would you take risks to get to the rebels?
 
2014-08-15 09:05:45 AM  

spcMike: Was Han really that notorious?


Do you know the name of the biggest criminal empire boss today? I sure don't.
 
2014-08-15 09:09:50 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Maybe this is one of those "hindsight is 20/20" things, but intentionally letting the Death Star plans get to the Rebel Base seems like a really, REALLY big risk to take.  When you control as much of the galaxy's territory and military power as the empire did, why would you take risks to get to the rebels?


Could be that the plan were legitimately stolen, but some higher up (Tarkin?) saw the potential in the situation. or if you really want to go all "Truther" then yes, the plans getting stolen was part of the plan for showing how dominant the new battle station was.

"So you see, citizens of the Empire, even when they had the technical plans to the station, they could not destroy it, and fell to it's overwhelming firepower. There will be no more talk of rebellion"

They just forgot to pay for the exhaust port shielding
 
2014-08-15 09:15:34 AM  

Ghost Roach: HMS_Blinkin: Maybe this is one of those "hindsight is 20/20" things, but intentionally letting the Death Star plans get to the Rebel Base seems like a really, REALLY big risk to take.  When you control as much of the galaxy's territory and military power as the empire did, why would you take risks to get to the rebels?

Could be that the plan were legitimately stolen, but some higher up (Tarkin?) saw the potential in the situation. or if you really want to go all "Truther" then yes, the plans getting stolen was part of the plan for showing how dominant the new battle station was.

"So you see, citizens of the Empire, even when they had the technical plans to the station, they could not destroy it, and fell to it's overwhelming firepower. There will be no more talk of rebellion"

They just forgot to pay for the exhaust port shielding


Pretty sure the actual theft of the plans wasn't a plan all along. That was the second Death Star where the Emperor made sure they knew about the convoy carrying them without saying what it was, so that he could trap the main rebel fleet.

He just didn't expect to be thrown down the shaft to the reactor, or else he probably wouldn't have had one in his throne room. Really that's just as much of an oversight as the exhaust port on the first Death Star.
 
2014-08-15 09:15:42 AM  

cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.


Actually, I'd say the "Empire" was always bad.  The Republic had a good run, though.

cretinbob: ragekage: My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

I think that's a valid question, and wouldn't the remnant of the Empire now be the rebels?

I'll have to go watch Jedi to get a better sense of the ending


Well, thanks to the Special Editions, we know that Coruscant was celebrating the moment Palpatine and the second Death Star were destroyed.  So for some reason, they had a bunch of celebratory fireworks ready to go for when their government collapsed.
 
2014-08-15 09:16:31 AM  

Kyro: spcMike: Was Han really that notorious?

Do you know the name of the biggest criminal empire boss today? I sure don't.


Are we counting league commissioners?
 
2014-08-15 09:21:18 AM  

Hunter4242: Pretty sure the actual theft of the plans wasn't a plan all along. That was the second Death Star where the Emperor made sure they knew about the convoy carrying them without saying what it was, so that he could trap the main rebel fleet.

He just didn't expect to be thrown down the shaft to the reactor, or else he probably wouldn't have had one in his throne room. Really that's just as much of an oversight as the exhaust port on the first Death Star.


Luke even told the Emperor, "Your overconfidence is your weakness" so was it oversight, or hubris?
 
2014-08-15 09:22:00 AM  

Kyro: HMS_Blinkin: They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.

I'm going to give a pass to a squad of grunts failing to spontaneously capture the most notorious pirate there is.


"The most notorious pirate there is" wouldn't have dropped his shipment at the first sign of an Imperial cruiser.
 
2014-08-15 09:23:29 AM  

NeoCortex42: Well, thanks to the Special Editions, we know that Coruscant was celebrating the moment Palpatine and the second Death Star were destroyed.  So for some reason, they had a bunch of celebratory fireworks ready to go for when their government collapsed.


One of the later Rogue Squadron books claimed a pro-Rebel splinter group was behind that, and the statue being pulled down.. then the stormtroopers showed up to restore order, and they didn't bother with stun settings, just opened fire on the crowd.
 
2014-08-15 09:25:04 AM  

Alphax: NeoCortex42: Well, thanks to the Special Editions, we know that Coruscant was celebrating the moment Palpatine and the second Death Star were destroyed.  So for some reason, they had a bunch of celebratory fireworks ready to go for when their government collapsed.

One of the later Rogue Squadron books claimed a pro-Rebel splinter group was behind that, and the statue being pulled down.. then the stormtroopers showed up to restore order, and they didn't bother with stun settings, just opened fire on the crowd.


That makes a hell of a lot more sense.  Of course, now all the EU stuff is out the window.
 
2014-08-15 09:25:54 AM  

Ghost Roach: Could be that the plan were legitimately stolen, but some higher up (Tarkin?) saw the potential in the situation. or if you really want to go all "Truther" then yes, the plans getting stolen was part of the plan for showing how dominant the new battle station was.

"So you see, citizens of the Empire, even when they had the technical plans to the station, they could not destroy it, and fell to it's overwhelming firepower. There will be no more talk of rebellion"

They just forgot to pay for the exhaust port shielding


I mean...maybe.  But this is Star Wars we're talking about here---it's not a franchise known for its subtlety.  What you see is usually what you get, which is why I favor the Occam's Razor approach.
 
2014-08-15 09:29:36 AM  

NeoCortex42: Alphax: NeoCortex42: Well, thanks to the Special Editions, we know that Coruscant was celebrating the moment Palpatine and the second Death Star were destroyed.  So for some reason, they had a bunch of celebratory fireworks ready to go for when their government collapsed.

One of the later Rogue Squadron books claimed a pro-Rebel splinter group was behind that, and the statue being pulled down.. then the stormtroopers showed up to restore order, and they didn't bother with stun settings, just opened fire on the crowd.

That makes a hell of a lot more sense.  Of course, now all the EU stuff is out the window.


It is not all. Every article I have read says that Disney is picking and choosing what to keep and what to cut. So small things like that could easily make it into the actual cannon.
 
2014-08-15 09:30:21 AM  

baconbeard: "The most notorious pirate there is" wouldn't have dropped his shipment at the first sign of an Imperial cruiser.


Which was a ridiculous thing to get mad about.

Option A: Han gets boarded, Imperials find cargo, Han is imprisoned, Jabba gets implicated
Option B: Han makes a run for it, possibly getting himself and Jabba's cargo blown up
Option C: Dump the cargo, let the Imperials do their inspection, resume work

Cargo loss is something every industry except apparently Jabba's already budgets for.
 
2014-08-15 09:31:21 AM  

Mjeck: Are there any vulcans left after their home planet is blown up by the red matter death star?


If I am not mistake, professor Xavier saved a few of them and took them to Middle Earth.
 
2014-08-15 09:31:25 AM  

ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.


www.rebelscum.com
Not all of them.
 
2014-08-15 09:33:01 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Kyro: Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?

It did previously. Armor doesn't automatically make one blaster-proof. It just makes sure they have a good chance of surviving being shot.

I remember reading in one of the kid's "star wars dictionary books" when I was little that Stormtrooper armor is impervious to non-energy (i.e. projectile) weapons.  I guess that means the armor isn't totally worthless---although you don't see too many projectile weapons in SW.  That sniper rifle dart that Jango Fett shoots the shapeshifting bounty hunter in Ep. II with is the only example I can think of.


Sure as hell did not protect them from projectile rocks in Endor.
 
2014-08-15 09:35:38 AM  

Mjeck: Are there any vulcans left after their home planet is blown up by the red matter death star?


cdn.ticketfly.com
Just Bruce Dern and the robots with their space hot house, peacefully drifting away into the void.....
 
2014-08-15 09:39:11 AM  

Alphax: NeoCortex42: Well, thanks to the Special Editions, we know that Coruscant was celebrating the moment Palpatine and the second Death Star were destroyed.  So for some reason, they had a bunch of celebratory fireworks ready to go for when their government collapsed.

One of the later Rogue Squadron books claimed a pro-Rebel splinter group was behind that, and the statue being pulled down.. then the stormtroopers showed up to restore order, and they didn't bother with stun settings, just opened fire on the crowd.


I know that EU is non-canon now, but who is to say that celebration happened at the same time? Plus I love the idea of some troopers just getting out there and laying waste to rebel scum. One minute they're pulling down a statue and the next they have a laser bolt up their arse.

/BTW, love the new helmet.
 
2014-08-15 09:40:40 AM  

Kyro: spcMike: Was Han really that notorious?

Do you know the name of the biggest criminal empire boss today? I sure don't.


The name you're looking for is Barack Hussein Obama.
 
2014-08-15 09:42:31 AM  

spamdog: So what IS the purpose of all that armor, anyway? Doesn't seem to do shiat against laser bolts.



It looks cool. What other purpose does it need?
 
2014-08-15 09:44:09 AM  

HighlanderRPI: [img1.wikia.nocookie.net image 400x525]

Meesa gonna be a big star again!


Tarkin should have blasted Naboo in Ep. IV.
 
2014-08-15 09:46:40 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Mjeck: Are there any vulcans left after their home planet is blown up by the red matter death star?

[cdn.ticketfly.com image 500x334]
Just Bruce Dern and the robots with their space hot house, peacefully drifting away into the void.....


that's a good movie.  dated, but good.
 
2014-08-15 09:47:11 AM  

namatad: ROFL
badass ???

farktards still cant aim....
YAWN


That always bugged me. On the one hand, they're some kind of elite fighting force. On the other hand, they're such bad shots that they couldn't hit a building if they were standing inside.
 
2014-08-15 09:55:15 AM  
This reveal was so boring it's undoing all my morning coffee.
 
2014-08-15 10:00:20 AM  

Cybernetic: That always bugged me. On the one hand, they're some kind of elite fighting force. On the other hand, they're such bad shots that they couldn't hit a building if they were standing inside.


Pretty much every time you've seen them miss they were under orders to do so.

You can't track Leia back to the Rebel base if she doesn't escape the Death Star.

You can't carbon-freeze Luke if you summarily execute him in Cloud City.
 
2014-08-15 10:00:21 AM  

yves0010: NeoCortex42: Alphax: NeoCortex42: Well, thanks to the Special Editions, we know that Coruscant was celebrating the moment Palpatine and the second Death Star were destroyed.  So for some reason, they had a bunch of celebratory fireworks ready to go for when their government collapsed.

One of the later Rogue Squadron books claimed a pro-Rebel splinter group was behind that, and the statue being pulled down.. then the stormtroopers showed up to restore order, and they didn't bother with stun settings, just opened fire on the crowd.

That makes a hell of a lot more sense.  Of course, now all the EU stuff is out the window.

It is not all. Every article I have read says that Disney is picking and choosing what to keep and what to cut. So small things like that could easily make it into the actual cannon.


I know they might pick and choose stuff from the EU to use, but that essentially means that as of now, it is all non-canon.  We can't work off of any knowledge from the books in figuring out what will happen in the movies.

Never got much into the EU, anyway.  I only ever read the Thrawn trilogy, a one-off about the Bounty Hunters, and a handful of other books I can't remember.  It started reading like certified fanfic, and that's coming from someone who also read Star Trek novels at the time.
 
2014-08-15 10:02:12 AM  

Kyro: baconbeard: "The most notorious pirate there is" wouldn't have dropped his shipment at the first sign of an Imperial cruiser.

Which was a ridiculous thing to get mad about.

Option A: Han gets boarded, Imperials find cargo, Han is imprisoned, Jabba gets implicated
Option B: Han makes a run for it, possibly getting himself and Jabba's cargo blown up
Option C: Dump the cargo, let the Imperials do their inspection, resume work

Cargo loss is something every industry except apparently Jabba's already budgets for.


You (and George Lucas) apparently missed the entire point of that exchange. The point was to suggest that getting on Han's ship was a pretty dangerous thing to do. Han was a pretty sketchy guy. He shot people under the table. He really was a pirate. That is why him coming to help Luke on the attack on the Death Star was such a big deal.
 
2014-08-15 10:04:38 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: I remember reading in one of the kid's "star wars dictionary books" when I was little that Stormtrooper armor is impervious to non-energy (i.e. projectile) weapons.


Somebody better tell the Ewoks.
 
2014-08-15 10:05:09 AM  

HighlanderRPI: [img1.wikia.nocookie.net image 400x525]

Meesa gonna be a big star again!


You.  Corner.  Now.
 
2014-08-15 10:05:09 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Ghost Roach: Could be that the plan were legitimately stolen, but some higher up (Tarkin?) saw the potential in the situation. or if you really want to go all "Truther" then yes, the plans getting stolen was part of the plan for showing how dominant the new battle station was.

"So you see, citizens of the Empire, even when they had the technical plans to the station, they could not destroy it, and fell to it's overwhelming firepower. There will be no more talk of rebellion"

They just forgot to pay for the exhaust port shielding

I mean...maybe.  But this is Star Wars we're talking about here---it's not a franchise known for its subtlety.  What you see is usually what you get, which is why I favor the Occam's Razor approach.


That blast port shielding is like undercoating, it's all a scam. I mean you would have to be able to bullseye Womp rats with a T-16 to hit an ehaust port like that.
 
2014-08-15 10:06:13 AM  
They took the menacing look of the Storm trooper and turned it into something Apple might of designed.
 
2014-08-15 10:08:15 AM  

Kyro: Cybernetic: That always bugged me. On the one hand, they're some kind of elite fighting force. On the other hand, they're such bad shots that they couldn't hit a building if they were standing inside.

Pretty much every time you've seen them miss they were under orders to do so.

You can't track Leia back to the Rebel base if she doesn't escape the Death Star.

You can't carbon-freeze Luke if you summarily execute him in Cloud City.


They were beaten down by Ewoks with twigs.
 
2014-08-15 10:09:59 AM  

Gleeman: [www.rebelscum.com image 450x300]
Not all of them.



Ray Liotta?
 
2014-08-15 10:11:30 AM  

Omis: They took the menacing look of the Storm trooper and turned it into something Apple might of designed.


So one is the product of an all-reaching evil empire that wants to destroy its enemies and the other was designed by Palpatine's staff?
 
2014-08-15 10:18:41 AM  

Omis: Kyro: Cybernetic: That always bugged me. On the one hand, they're some kind of elite fighting force. On the other hand, they're such bad shots that they couldn't hit a building if they were standing inside.

Pretty much every time you've seen them miss they were under orders to do so.

You can't track Leia back to the Rebel base if she doesn't escape the Death Star.

You can't carbon-freeze Luke if you summarily execute him in Cloud City.

They were beaten down by Ewoks with twigs.


It was sort of an allegory. A large military force invades a technologically inferior people and gets their ass kicked, happened before.
 
2014-08-15 10:18:46 AM  
By the time this film comes out, will there be any part of this that we won't know ahead of time?

Its like they are releasing this movie by one frame a week.
 
2014-08-15 10:20:35 AM  

NeoCortex42: Omis: They took the menacing look of the Storm trooper and turned it into something Apple might of designed.

So one is the product of an all-reaching evil empire that wants to destroy its enemies and the other was designed by Palpatine's staff?


iTrooper.
 
2014-08-15 10:25:12 AM  

baconbeard: Kyro: HMS_Blinkin: They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.

I'm going to give a pass to a squad of grunts failing to spontaneously capture the most notorious pirate there is.

"The most notorious pirate there is" wouldn't have dropped his shipment at the first sign of an Imperial cruiser.


Even he gets boarded sometimes. Do you think he had a choice?
 
2014-08-15 10:29:38 AM  

Omis: NeoCortex42: Omis: They took the menacing look of the Storm trooper and turned it into something Apple might of designed.

So one is the product of an all-reaching evil empire that wants to destroy its enemies and the other was designed by Palpatine's staff?

iTrooper.


I wonder if JJ's grand plan is to merge the Star Trek and Star Wars universes.  Maybe he thinks if he can skew the designs of both to Apple standards, nobody will notice they're distinct.  Then in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Crossover, the Enterprise breaks through the galactic barrier and travels far, far away
 
2014-08-15 10:31:55 AM  
media.comicbook.com

What is it with Abrams that the tech in every movie he makes looks like it was designed by Apple engineers?
 
2014-08-15 10:39:04 AM  

qorkfiend: baconbeard: Kyro: HMS_Blinkin: They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.

I'm going to give a pass to a squad of grunts failing to spontaneously capture the most notorious pirate there is.

"The most notorious pirate there is" wouldn't have dropped his shipment at the first sign of an Imperial cruiser.

Even he gets boarded sometimes. Do you think he had a choice?


I don't disagree with his actions, I'm just saying "the most notorious pirate there is" wouldn't have dropped his shipment at the first sign of trouble. Unless he's notorious for his mediocrity.
 
2014-08-15 10:41:40 AM  

Blathering Idjut: [media.comicbook.com image 800x645]

What is it with Abrams that the tech in every movie he makes looks like it was designed by Apple engineers?


Probably because most American consumers LOVE stuff that was designed by Apple engineers.  It's a good way to make the film appeal to people.  I'm not saying I love it or hate it (it's certainly distinctive), but it has a purpose and it works.
 
2014-08-15 10:43:42 AM  
Clone Trooper Helmet

images.halloweencostumes.com

Storm Trooper Helmet (OT)

www.plasmainfusion.com

New Storm Trooper Helmet

makingstarwars.net
 
2014-08-15 10:56:59 AM  

some_beer_drinker: they still wont hit anything.


img.fark.net
 
2014-08-15 10:57:01 AM  

ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.


You dont think Luke wouldnt have gotten power hungry and taken over the role as a dictator.  If you have studied history all but a few rebellions actually reverted to earlier forms of govt or a more democratic form. They generally turn into the form of govt they overthrow.
 
2014-08-15 11:11:02 AM  

baconbeard: qorkfiend: baconbeard: Kyro: HMS_Blinkin: They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.

I'm going to give a pass to a squad of grunts failing to spontaneously capture the most notorious pirate there is.

"The most notorious pirate there is" wouldn't have dropped his shipment at the first sign of an Imperial cruiser.

Even he gets boarded sometimes. Do you think he had a choice?

I don't disagree with his actions, I'm just saying "the most notorious pirate there is" wouldn't have dropped his shipment at the first sign of trouble. Unless he's notorious for his mediocrity.


I thought you were quoting a line from the movie ._.
 
2014-08-15 11:16:42 AM  

Saiga410: ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

You dont think Luke wouldnt have gotten power hungry and taken over the role as a dictator.  If you have studied history all but a few rebellions actually reverted to earlier forms of govt or a more democratic form. They generally turn into the form of govt they overthrow.


The Emperor attempting to corrupt first Vader and then Luke by tempting them with power, and Vader succumbing while Luke resisted, is literally the key conflict of the entire series. So, no.
 
2014-08-15 11:20:28 AM  
I was excited for this movie, until I read the "severed hand floating in space" plot bullshiat that nobody at Disney has gone out of the way to deny or confirm. And then JR released a photo of a cybernetic arm...
 
2014-08-15 11:22:04 AM  

ThatBillmanGuy: I was excited for this movie, until I read the "severed hand floating in space" plot bullshiat that nobody at Disney has gone out of the way to deny or confirm. And then JR released a photo of a cybernetic arm...


You honestly believed that?  Sheesh...
 
2014-08-15 11:25:56 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-08-15 11:28:25 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: ThatBillmanGuy: I was excited for this movie, until I read the "severed hand floating in space" plot bullshiat that nobody at Disney has gone out of the way to deny or confirm. And then JR released a photo of a cybernetic arm...

You honestly believed that?  Sheesh...


I didn't, until the picture of the cybernetic arm showed up. I'm still hoping it's misdirection by JJ, but my JJ obsessed friend who thinks JJ can do no wrong believes it and frigging loves the idea.
 
2014-08-15 11:29:47 AM  

Kyro: Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?

It did previously. Armor doesn't automatically make one blaster-proof. It just makes sure they have a good chance of surviving being shot.


Too bad it can't protect them from a Big Gulp sized rock dropped by a teddy bear.  From a vantage point about 1 foot above the trooper.
 
2014-08-15 11:40:44 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.
 
2014-08-15 11:42:10 AM  
Seee, I knew someone (or xeveral people) would answer the question better than I could and do so ina calm and helpful way, because this isn't the politics tab.

Yes, I should have said Republic troopers, that would have made more sense. The Republic troops would have become Imperial troops ad would have used the same modified Mandalorian armor, and would have modfied it more over time. Sricrly speakig, these guys were more SA than SS.

But yeah, I'll wait and see.
 
2014-08-15 11:45:20 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: It's pretty well established in the expanded universe (even if Disney made it all non-canon) that the Empire wasn't 100% wiped out at Endor.  Which, as other Farkers have pointed out, is frankly quite logical.  I suspect that the Imperials of the new movie will be fighting for the Imperial Remnant, with the "good guys" being the New Republic or something like that.  They may change the names a bit to differentiate from the EU books, but the gist will be similar.


I would think so.  A New Republic was established but even then there are still remnants of the Empire still exist mostly on the outlying star systems.
 
2014-08-15 11:50:25 AM  

Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.


If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.
 
2014-08-15 12:06:49 PM  

strangeguitar: Alphax: NeoCortex42: Well, thanks to the Special Editions, we know that Coruscant was celebrating the moment Palpatine and the second Death Star were destroyed.  So for some reason, they had a bunch of celebratory fireworks ready to go for when their government collapsed.

One of the later Rogue Squadron books claimed a pro-Rebel splinter group was behind that, and the statue being pulled down.. then the stormtroopers showed up to restore order, and they didn't bother with stun settings, just opened fire on the crowd.

I know that EU is non-canon now, but who is to say that celebration happened at the same time? Plus I love the idea of some troopers just getting out there and laying waste to rebel scum. One minute they're pulling down a statue and the next they have a laser bolt up their arse.

/BTW, love the new helmet.


I'm glad to hear this, the first time I saw the revised edition or whatever the hell its called, I turned to my friend and said "and 15 seconds later, the fleet began its orbital bombardment."
 
2014-08-15 12:15:50 PM  

qorkfiend: Saiga410: ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

You dont think Luke wouldnt have gotten power hungry and taken over the role as a dictator.  If you have studied history all but a few rebellions actually reverted to earlier forms of govt or a more democratic form. They generally turn into the form of govt they overthrow.

The Emperor attempting to corrupt first Vader and then Luke by tempting them with power, and Vader succumbing while Luke resisted, is literally the key conflict of the entire series. So, no.


Maybe thne but after a few years of the purging of the old empire's middle management Luke would have been morally and emotionally exhausted.  Something like a modern futures past of Robespiere
 
2014-08-15 12:21:12 PM  

Blathering Idjut: [media.comicbook.com image 800x645]

What is it with Abrams that the tech in every movie he makes looks like it was designed by Apple engineers?


I'm pretty sure this renderings are as "real" as the renderings you see of non-existant Apple products every year.
 
2014-08-15 12:36:09 PM  

NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


I'm tempted to bet a Total Fark subscription for a month on these sequels being a repeat of the prequels.  Difference being a) luke's Padawan resists the dark side to become a Jedi and b) Luke dies at the end.
 
2014-08-15 12:53:19 PM  

Rwa2play: HMS_Blinkin: It's pretty well established in the expanded universe (even if Disney made it all non-canon) that the Empire wasn't 100% wiped out at Endor.  Which, as other Farkers have pointed out, is frankly quite logical.  I suspect that the Imperials of the new movie will be fighting for the Imperial Remnant, with the "good guys" being the New Republic or something like that.  They may change the names a bit to differentiate from the EU books, but the gist will be similar.

I would think so.  A New Republic was established but even then there are still remnants of the Empire still exist mostly on the outlying star systems.


I could see that if it happened right after Jedi. But this is 30 years later. And these imperials look quite polished. I would imagine they don't have access to the same resources they once had. They should have a more weathered look to them. Like the rebels did.
 
2014-08-15 01:00:37 PM  

Mugato: Omis: Kyro: Cybernetic: That always bugged me. On the one hand, they're some kind of elite fighting force. On the other hand, they're such bad shots that they couldn't hit a building if they were standing inside.

Pretty much every time you've seen them miss they were under orders to do so.

You can't track Leia back to the Rebel base if she doesn't escape the Death Star.

You can't carbon-freeze Luke if you summarily execute him in Cloud City.

They were beaten down by Ewoks with twigs.

It was sort of an allegory. A large military force invades a technologically inferior people and gets their ass kicked, happened before.


I get the allegory but it was poorly handled.
 
2014-08-15 01:10:37 PM  

NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.



Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.
 
2014-08-15 01:20:50 PM  

Omis: Rwa2play: HMS_Blinkin: It's pretty well established in the expanded universe (even if Disney made it all non-canon) that the Empire wasn't 100% wiped out at Endor.  Which, as other Farkers have pointed out, is frankly quite logical.  I suspect that the Imperials of the new movie will be fighting for the Imperial Remnant, with the "good guys" being the New Republic or something like that.  They may change the names a bit to differentiate from the EU books, but the gist will be similar.

I would think so.  A New Republic was established but even then there are still remnants of the Empire still exist mostly on the outlying star systems.

I could see that if it happened right after Jedi. But this is 30 years later. And these imperials look quite polished. I would imagine they don't have access to the same resources they once had. They should have a more weathered look to them. Like the rebels did.


Why?  The galaxy contains well over a thousand planets.  Even if they only held 100 planets (1/10th of the galaxy), that would still be a shiat-ton of resources.  And because they are totalitarian, they can divert excessive ratios of resources to the military.  Look at how well North Korean soldiers are fed compared to their civilians.
 
2014-08-15 01:42:26 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: Omis: Rwa2play: HMS_Blinkin: It's pretty well established in the expanded universe (even if Disney made it all non-canon) that the Empire wasn't 100% wiped out at Endor.  Which, as other Farkers have pointed out, is frankly quite logical.  I suspect that the Imperials of the new movie will be fighting for the Imperial Remnant, with the "good guys" being the New Republic or something like that.  They may change the names a bit to differentiate from the EU books, but the gist will be similar.

I would think so.  A New Republic was established but even then there are still remnants of the Empire still exist mostly on the outlying star systems.

I could see that if it happened right after Jedi. But this is 30 years later. And these imperials look quite polished. I would imagine they don't have access to the same resources they once had. They should have a more weathered look to them. Like the rebels did.

Why?  The galaxy contains well over a thousand planets.  Even if they only held 100 planets (1/10th of the galaxy), that would still be a shiat-ton of resources.  And because they are totalitarian, they can divert excessive ratios of resources to the military.  Look at how well North Korean soldiers are fed compared to their civilians.


For the same reason the rebels were in the original trilogy. Visual story telling. The Death Star was the only thing keeping systems in line. They said so in episode 4. After RotJ, the imperials should be struggling. Otherwise there was no point in telling those stories. Really they should be moving away from the imperials as the villains to something new. What handful are left should be joining forces with some new enemy making a play for power.
 
2014-08-15 01:57:27 PM  

Detz: NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.


Reven is coming back.

Fit, trim and not looking a day over a millennia.
This galaxy deserves a better class of sith. And he's going to give it to them.

Everyone kiss their assholes goodbye.
 
2014-08-15 02:35:39 PM  

Detz: NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.


www.shockmansion.com

'Tatooine and Endor is yours.  Do as you wish.  None shall interfere.'
 
2014-08-15 02:41:10 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Detz: NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.

[www.shockmansion.com image 550x355]

'Tatooine and Endor is yours.  Do as you wish.  None shall interfere.'  Mendoza!!!!!!



FTFY
 
2014-08-15 03:27:42 PM  

Alphax: Klivian: Alphax: Klivian: IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.

I think the original Thrawn trilogy was set 5 years after Endor, but Rogue Squadron was involved in taking Coruscant much sooner.  A diplomatic Victory Tour after Endor, then bringing in new members like Corran Horn.

Per wiki, the X-Wing novels (in the second of which, Coruscant falls) take place 6.5-7.5 years after Yavin, having trouble finding out how long it was between Yavin and Endor, and this is now officially the geekiest discussion on the internet

Yavin to Endor was 7 years.  Luke was 20 in ANH, 23 in TESB, and 27 in ROTJ.


I'm pretty sure TESB to ROTJ was officially only a year or so, according to most of the published canon.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_galactic_history
 
2014-08-15 04:30:03 PM  

Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?


They're clones. You don't individually wrap the two for $10 box of ornaments you buy at Big Lots to fill space on your tree. They're there to look pretty and distract you from the plot holes... err holes in the tree.
 
2014-08-15 04:47:46 PM  
So, how long until the 501st members have made a replica? And when can I get the pepakura files?
 
2014-08-15 06:02:17 PM  
After reading the supposed leaks that, again, have come out today along with this helmet, I really hope to FSM that this is all just one big troll. Because the plot sounds pants on head farking retarded.
 
2014-08-15 11:22:47 PM  

jayphat: After reading the supposed leaks that, again, have come out today along with this helmet, I really hope to FSM that this is all just one big troll. Because the plot sounds pants on head farking retarded.


Where have you heard the official plot? All I have seen is speculation.
 
2014-08-15 11:40:15 PM  

MurphyMurphy: Detz: NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.

Reven is coming back.

Fit, trim and not looking a day over a millennia.
This galaxy deserves a better class of sith. And She's going to give it to them.

Everyone kiss their assholes goodbye.


Fixed that for ya.
 
2014-08-15 11:59:17 PM  
Going to laugh when 150 nerds who haven't taken a bath since 1977 watch a 4-man fire team of stormtroopers mow down a dozen jedi in a matter of seconds with a perfectly coordinated ambush.
 
2014-08-16 01:53:56 AM  

croesius: MurphyMurphy: Detz: NeoCortex42: Rwa2play: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Gonna say no; but the Sith sure still exist.

If they do have the Sith around, I hope it's more like a young Jedi discovers the writings or ruins of ancient Sith and learns from them.  I really don't want to have yet another secret apprentice or Sith-in-hiding that's secretly been there the whole time suddenly pop up.


Kind of disappointed, I would have loved a prequel to the prequels, with what you said but telling the story of Darth Bane would have been fantastic to see on the big screen.  It's not a secret apprentice or sith-in-hiding, but it is someone moving to the dark side, although he wasn't a Jedi.

Reven is coming back.

Fit, trim and not looking a day over a millennia.
This galaxy deserves a better class of sith. And She's going to give it to them.

Everyone kiss their assholes goodbye.

Fixed that for ya.


Legit.
 
2014-08-16 04:36:23 AM  

NathanAllen: Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?

They're clones. You don't individually wrap the two for $10 box of ornaments you buy at Big Lots to fill space on your tree. They're there to look pretty and distract you from the plot holes... err holes in the tree.


Clones during the Clone Wars.. after that, no one wanted anything to do with clones.  Imperial Stormtroopers are mostly conscripts.
 
2014-08-16 07:16:20 AM  

juvandy: Alphax: Klivian: Alphax: Klivian: IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.

I think the original Thrawn trilogy was set 5 years after Endor, but Rogue Squadron was involved in taking Coruscant much sooner.  A diplomatic Victory Tour after Endor, then bringing in new members like Corran Horn.

Per wiki, the X-Wing novels (in the second of which, Coruscant falls) take place 6.5-7.5 years after Yavin, having trouble finding out how long it was between Yavin and Endor, and this is now officially the geekiest discussion on the internet

Yavin to Endor was 7 years.  Luke was 20 in ANH, 23 in TESB, and 27 in ROTJ.

I'm pretty sure TESB to ROTJ was officially only a year or so, according to most of the published canon.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_galactic_history


Correct.


32 BBY - Episode I
22 BBY - Episode II
22-19 BBY - The Clone Wars (movie + TV series)
19 BBY - Episode III
5 BBY - Rebels (upcoming TV series)
0 BBY/ABY - SW
3 ABY - ESB
4 ABY - Jedi

5 ABY - Jedi Knight (1, video game)
6-7 ABY - Liberation of Coruscant (Rogue Squadron books)
9 ABY - Thrawn trilogy
11 ABY - Jedi Academy trilogy
12 ABY - Jedi Outcast (video game)
19 ABY - Peace treaty between the New Republic and the Imperial Remnant (Hand of Thrawn duology)
 
2014-08-16 07:58:16 AM  
I think it's pretty much certain that Ian McDiarmid will be a BAM! TWIST! given that the actor is still on the top of his game, there's an entirely makes-sense-plot-wise way into it, and that it's the backbone of all previous post-films universe stuff (even though that's no longer "official").

An he and Max Von Sydow would play off each other perfectly.
 
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