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2014-08-14 08:56:19 PM  
Looks pretty badass to me.
 
2014-08-14 11:48:50 PM  
"Jungle Trooper,"

That's racist?
 
2014-08-15 12:27:57 AM  
So after 30 years the Empire still exists?
 
2014-08-15 12:31:25 AM  
ROFL
badass ???

farktards still cant aim....
YAWN
 
2014-08-15 12:34:27 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


I hope so. I can't believe such an amazing entity only lasted 20 some years ...
 
2014-08-15 01:26:34 AM  
they still wont hit anything.
 
2014-08-15 01:44:35 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Just because the emperor is dead doesn't mean his massive bureaucracy is dead.

I'm just guessing. I'm pretty drunk ...
 
2014-08-15 01:49:28 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.
 
2014-08-15 02:02:58 AM  

cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.


My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.
 
2014-08-15 02:10:39 AM  

ragekage: My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.


I think that's a valid question, and wouldn't the remnant of the Empire now be the rebels?

I'll have to go watch Jedi to get a better sense of the ending
 
2014-08-15 04:28:24 AM  
Remind me to jerk off.
 
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2014-08-15 05:06:59 AM  
So they are carrying flashlights?
 
2014-08-15 05:10:36 AM  
cdn.thewire.com
 
2014-08-15 06:18:38 AM  

ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.


This is an empire spread out over 1000+ worlds.  Not all of them went with the rebels.  50 or 60 core systems with a decent infrastructure could keep a fight going for a long time,  Not everyone wanted to join the rebels.  And, while the Empire probably had it's best fleet at Endor, it certainly had plenty of units spread out across the galaxy, with some form of military command structure surviving.  Just think about the US today.  If you managed to wipe out every military member stationed in the entire lower 48 states, we would still have tens of thousands of troops, hundreds of aircraft, and dozens of ships.  They may be cut off and disjointed, but a decent commander, falling back on any sort of industrial base (and I just said we somehow killed just the military personnel, the way the rebels in RotJ managed to, not wiped out the US itself) could still use what was left to rain hell down on most of the rest of the world.

 It would take a loosely knit rebel alliance that's trying to become a real government, with troops that figure "the war is over, I want to go home" decades to crush what was left of Palpatine's Empire.
 
2014-08-15 06:38:16 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Well, fear has kept the local systems in line.
 
2014-08-15 07:00:49 AM  
So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?
 
2014-08-15 07:01:33 AM  

devildog123: ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

This is an empire spread out over 1000+ worlds.  Not all of them went with the rebels.  50 or 60 core systems with a decent infrastructure could keep a fight going for a long time,  Not everyone wanted to join the rebels.  And, while the Empire probably had it's best fleet at Endor, it certainly had plenty of units spread out across the galaxy, with some form of military command structure surviving.  Just think about the US today.  If you managed to wipe out every military member stationed in the entire lower 48 states, we would still have tens of thousands of troops, hundreds of aircraft, and dozens of ships.  They may be cut off and disjointed, but a decent commander, falling back on any sort of industrial base (and I just said we somehow killed just the military personnel, the way the rebels in RotJ managed to, not wiped out the US itself) could still use what was left to rain hell down on most of the rest of the world.

 It would take a loosely knit rebel alliance that's trying to become a real government, with troops that figure "the war is over, I want to go home" decades to crush what was left of Palpatine's Empire.


Under the timelines from the books, there was still an Imperial Remnant of about a quarter of known space left, decades after Endor.  The Rebels declared themselves a New Republic after Endor, and took Coruscant about a year or so later, from the head of Imperial Intelligence.
 
2014-08-15 07:09:44 AM  

Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?


It's not armor.  They all have Klohne's Disease.  It's a casing that keeps all their organs from falling out.
 
2014-08-15 07:09:51 AM  

Alphax: devildog123: ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

This is an empire spread out over 1000+ worlds.  Not all of them went with the rebels.  50 or 60 core systems with a decent infrastructure could keep a fight going for a long time,  Not everyone wanted to join the rebels.  And, while the Empire probably had it's best fleet at Endor, it certainly had plenty of units spread out across the galaxy, with some form of military command structure surviving.  Just think about the US today.  If you managed to wipe out every military member stationed in the entire lower 48 states, we would still have tens of thousands of troops, hundreds of aircraft, and dozens of ships.  They may be cut off and disjointed, but a decent commander, falling back on any sort of industrial base (and I just said we somehow killed just the military personnel, the way the rebels in RotJ managed to, not wiped out the US itself) could still use what was left to rain hell down on most of the rest of the world.

 It would take a loosely knit rebel alliance that's trying to become a real government, with troops that figure "the war is over, I want to go home" decades to crush what was left of Palpatine's Empire.

Under the timelines from the books, there was still an Imperial Remnant of about a quarter of known space left, decades after Endor.  The Rebels declared themselves a New Republic after Endor, and took Coruscant about a year or so later, from the head of Imperi ...


See, there you go.  I didn't read any of the books past Zahn's "Admiral Thrawn" books, and I read those when they first came out a long time ago.  But yeah, I would expect the New Republic to be dealing with stormtroopers and an "Empire" long after the grandchildren of the original rebels were dead.
 
2014-08-15 07:17:28 AM  

Alphax: devildog123: ragekage: cretinbob: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Know how I can tell you didn't watch Episode II...or III...or Clone Wars........

fark I'm not even Star Wars nerd (yes I saw it in theaters twice when it came out, and Empire and Jedi) and even I know they weren't always the bad guys. So maybe they aren't the bad guys again.
We'll have to wait and see.

My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

This is an empire spread out over 1000+ worlds.  Not all of them went with the rebels.  50 or 60 core systems with a decent infrastructure could keep a fight going for a long time,  Not everyone wanted to join the rebels.  And, while the Empire probably had it's best fleet at Endor, it certainly had plenty of units spread out across the galaxy, with some form of military command structure surviving.  Just think about the US today.  If you managed to wipe out every military member stationed in the entire lower 48 states, we would still have tens of thousands of troops, hundreds of aircraft, and dozens of ships.  They may be cut off and disjointed, but a decent commander, falling back on any sort of industrial base (and I just said we somehow killed just the military personnel, the way the rebels in RotJ managed to, not wiped out the US itself) could still use what was left to rain hell down on most of the rest of the world.

 It would take a loosely knit rebel alliance that's trying to become a real government, with troops that figure "the war is over, I want to go home" decades to crush what was left of Palpatine's Empire.

Under the timelines from the books, there was still an Imperial Remnant of about a quarter of known space left, decades after Endor.  The Rebels declared themselves a New Republic after Endor, and took Coruscant about a year or so later, from the head of Imperi ...


IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.

It's funny to read the "take out all troops in the US" scenario, as that is almost the Thrawn trilogy to a T. Thrawn comes back after Endor, unites everyone under the justification he's a Grand Admiral, and then starts hitting the complacent New Republic forces.

/at work, so no click, and came hoping someone would share
//leaving disappointed, and saddened by how much my brain has retained of the EU
///Still hoping to burn out the part that has the New Jedi Order era stuff
//May the slashies be with you
 
2014-08-15 07:18:33 AM  
I've got a definite space boner right now.
 
2014-08-15 07:19:49 AM  
So what IS the purpose of all that armor, anyway? Doesn't seem to do shiat against laser bolts.
 
2014-08-15 07:23:21 AM  
Meh, military assets tend to hang around throughout regime changes.  It's not rocket surgery.
 
2014-08-15 07:23:27 AM  

Klivian: IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.


I think the original Thrawn trilogy was set 5 years after Endor, but Rogue Squadron was involved in taking Coruscant much sooner.  A diplomatic Victory Tour after Endor, then bringing in new members like Corran Horn.
 
2014-08-15 07:25:53 AM  

spamdog: So what IS the purpose of all that armor, anyway? Doesn't seem to do shiat against laser bolts.


Seems to be about surviving long enough to make it to a medic.  Deflect at least a bit of the energy away from the major organs.
 
2014-08-15 07:30:11 AM  

Alphax: Klivian: IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.

I think the original Thrawn trilogy was set 5 years after Endor, but Rogue Squadron was involved in taking Coruscant much sooner.  A diplomatic Victory Tour after Endor, then bringing in new members like Corran Horn.


Per wiki, the X-Wing novels (in the second of which, Coruscant falls) take place 6.5-7.5 years after Yavin, having trouble finding out how long it was between Yavin and Endor, and this is now officially the geekiest discussion on the internet
 
2014-08-15 07:33:21 AM  

Klivian: Alphax: Klivian: IIRC they took Coruscant about 5 years after Endor, and then it took another 15 years after that for a truce to be signed, and even at that point, the Empire still had several sectors under their control.

I think the original Thrawn trilogy was set 5 years after Endor, but Rogue Squadron was involved in taking Coruscant much sooner.  A diplomatic Victory Tour after Endor, then bringing in new members like Corran Horn.

Per wiki, the X-Wing novels (in the second of which, Coruscant falls) take place 6.5-7.5 years after Yavin, having trouble finding out how long it was between Yavin and Endor, and this is now officially the geekiest discussion on the internet


Yavin to Endor was 7 years.  Luke was 20 in ANH, 23 in TESB, and 27 in ROTJ.
 
2014-08-15 07:33:40 AM  

some_beer_drinker: they still wont hit anything.


Fool, take a look at all these blast points!
 
2014-08-15 07:33:57 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Because a 7th Star Wars would work without one of its biggest draws?
 
2014-08-15 07:40:17 AM  
img1.wikia.nocookie.net

Meesa gonna be a big star again!
 
2014-08-15 07:48:11 AM  

toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?


Though nowadays all they do is vote against anything that tries to get passed by the galactic senate.
 
2014-08-15 07:48:44 AM  

fusillade762: "Jungle Trooper,"

That's racist?


C'mon and get down
 
2014-08-15 07:56:19 AM  
Star Making Wars already has a custom Fark source icon? Isn't it good form to label sponsored links?
 
2014-08-15 08:00:39 AM  
I like it. :D
 
2014-08-15 08:07:43 AM  

cretinbob: ragekage: My question is how a rebellion lasts for thirty years, since apparently there was no "New Republic". I get it; the entire Imperial Navy wasn't taken out at Endor, but their best and brightest were.

I think that's a valid question, and wouldn't the remnant of the Empire now be the rebels?

I'll have to go watch Jedi to get a better sense of the ending


In the Foundation series they break the Empire, and yet still for a while there is an emperor on the imperial homeworld
 
2014-08-15 08:14:29 AM  

verbaltoxin: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Because a 7th Star Wars would work without one of its biggest draws?


Like an Indy film without the Nazis.

Need to have Han claiming something to the effect of, "Imperials, I hate those guys."
 
2014-08-15 08:23:47 AM  
Are there any vulcans left after their home planet is blown up by the red matter death star?
 
2014-08-15 08:37:06 AM  

Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?


It did previously. Armor doesn't automatically make one blaster-proof. It just makes sure they have a good chance of surviving being shot.
 
2014-08-15 08:39:35 AM  

SithLord: verbaltoxin: toddalmighty: So after 30 years the Empire still exists?

Because a 7th Star Wars would work without one of its biggest draws?

Like an Indy film without the Nazis.

Need to have Han claiming something to the effect of, "Imperials, I hate those guys."


It's pretty well established in the expanded universe (even if Disney made it all non-canon) that the Empire wasn't 100% wiped out at Endor.  Which, as other Farkers have pointed out, is frankly quite logical.  I suspect that the Imperials of the new movie will be fighting for the Imperial Remnant, with the "good guys" being the New Republic or something like that.  They may change the names a bit to differentiate from the EU books, but the gist will be similar.
 
2014-08-15 08:41:20 AM  

Kyro: Enlightened Liberal: So will their armor actually provide some protection this time?

It did previously. Armor doesn't automatically make one blaster-proof. It just makes sure they have a good chance of surviving being shot.


I remember reading in one of the kid's "star wars dictionary books" when I was little that Stormtrooper armor is impervious to non-energy (i.e. projectile) weapons.  I guess that means the armor isn't totally worthless---although you don't see too many projectile weapons in SW.  That sniper rifle dart that Jango Fett shoots the shapeshifting bounty hunter in Ep. II with is the only example I can think of.
 
2014-08-15 08:44:05 AM  

some_beer_drinker: they still wont hit anything.


Unless ordered to do so.

Shoot up Leia's ship? No problem.
Herd the rebels back to their ship so we can follow them to their base? Sure.
Take out the Rebel base on Hoth? Done.
Herd Luke into the freezing chamber? Gotcha.

The only time Imperial troops ever really failed during a ground assault was against the Ewoks. And you may laugh, but those Ewoks took out the entire Rebel team with one net.
 
2014-08-15 08:46:28 AM  

Kyro: some_beer_drinker: they still wont hit anything.

Unless ordered to do so.

Shoot up Leia's ship? No problem.
Herd the rebels back to their ship so we can follow them to their base? Sure.
Take out the Rebel base on Hoth? Done.
Herd Luke into the freezing chamber? Gotcha.

The only time Imperial troops ever really failed during a ground assault was against the Ewoks. And you may laugh, but those Ewoks took out the entire Rebel team with one net.


They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.
 
2014-08-15 08:48:08 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.


I'm going to give a pass to a squad of grunts failing to spontaneously capture the most notorious pirate there is.
 
2014-08-15 08:54:29 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Kyro: some_beer_drinker: they still wont hit anything.

Unless ordered to do so.

Shoot up Leia's ship? No problem.
Herd the rebels back to their ship so we can follow them to their base? Sure.
Take out the Rebel base on Hoth? Done.
Herd Luke into the freezing chamber? Gotcha.

The only time Imperial troops ever really failed during a ground assault was against the Ewoks. And you may laugh, but those Ewoks took out the entire Rebel team with one net.

They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.


Still could have been part of the plan; Luke wasn't being quiet about "Save the princess"  part of the mission. Before our motley crew left, the order goes out to let them go with minimal resistance, knowing they will go to a newly unmade planet, get picked up, tracked, and allowed to leave, leading the Empire to the rebel base.

It would imply someone with some real long term planning skills, but it's not impossible
 
2014-08-15 08:56:30 AM  

Kyro: HMS_Blinkin: They failed miserably at stopping Han Solo from taking off from Mos Eisley.  That was pretty bad work on their part.

I'm going to give a pass to a squad of grunts failing to spontaneously capture the most notorious pirate there is.


Was Han really that notorious?

It seemed like no one knew who he was.
 
2014-08-15 08:58:04 AM  
Why are there still stormtroopers?
 
2014-08-15 08:59:40 AM  

Ghost Roach: Still could have been part of the plan; Luke wasn't being quiet about "Save the princess"  part of the mission. Before our motley crew left, the order goes out to let them go with minimal resistance, knowing they will go to a newly unmade planet, get picked up, tracked, and allowed to leave, leading the Empire to the rebel base.

It would imply someone with some real long term planning skills, but it's not impossible


Maybe this is one of those "hindsight is 20/20" things, but intentionally letting the Death Star plans get to the Rebel Base seems like a really, REALLY big risk to take.  When you control as much of the galaxy's territory and military power as the empire did, why would you take risks to get to the rebels?
 
2014-08-15 09:05:45 AM  

spcMike: Was Han really that notorious?


Do you know the name of the biggest criminal empire boss today? I sure don't.
 
2014-08-15 09:09:50 AM  

HMS_Blinkin: Maybe this is one of those "hindsight is 20/20" things, but intentionally letting the Death Star plans get to the Rebel Base seems like a really, REALLY big risk to take.  When you control as much of the galaxy's territory and military power as the empire did, why would you take risks to get to the rebels?


Could be that the plan were legitimately stolen, but some higher up (Tarkin?) saw the potential in the situation. or if you really want to go all "Truther" then yes, the plans getting stolen was part of the plan for showing how dominant the new battle station was.

"So you see, citizens of the Empire, even when they had the technical plans to the station, they could not destroy it, and fell to it's overwhelming firepower. There will be no more talk of rebellion"

They just forgot to pay for the exhaust port shielding
 
2014-08-15 09:15:34 AM  

Ghost Roach: HMS_Blinkin: Maybe this is one of those "hindsight is 20/20" things, but intentionally letting the Death Star plans get to the Rebel Base seems like a really, REALLY big risk to take.  When you control as much of the galaxy's territory and military power as the empire did, why would you take risks to get to the rebels?

Could be that the plan were legitimately stolen, but some higher up (Tarkin?) saw the potential in the situation. or if you really want to go all "Truther" then yes, the plans getting stolen was part of the plan for showing how dominant the new battle station was.

"So you see, citizens of the Empire, even when they had the technical plans to the station, they could not destroy it, and fell to it's overwhelming firepower. There will be no more talk of rebellion"

They just forgot to pay for the exhaust port shielding


Pretty sure the actual theft of the plans wasn't a plan all along. That was the second Death Star where the Emperor made sure they knew about the convoy carrying them without saying what it was, so that he could trap the main rebel fleet.

He just didn't expect to be thrown down the shaft to the reactor, or else he probably wouldn't have had one in his throne room. Really that's just as much of an oversight as the exhaust port on the first Death Star.
 
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