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2014-08-14 08:24:35 PM  
Contrary to what striking fast food workers may like to believe, McDonald's exits solely to turn a profit.  It's not a charity, and it's not there to "provide" them with jobs.

Keep pushing that "compassionate conservatism" Herman.
 
2014-08-14 08:27:16 PM  
 According to a variety of sources over on Reddit

stopped reading
 
2014-08-14 08:27:49 PM  
www.robo-kiosk.com
WOULD...YOU...LIKE...FRIES...WITH...THAT?
YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS TO COMPLY.
 
2014-08-14 08:28:27 PM  
FTA: "they were never worth $15/hr. in the first place."

Truth hurts.
 
2014-08-14 08:34:14 PM  
Go ahead

/cut welfare, food stamps, and thousands of jobs
//see how that works out
 
2014-08-14 08:40:28 PM  
If it can be outsourced or automated, it will be.
 
2014-08-14 08:46:49 PM  
Wow, the guy who wrote that deserves a swift kick in the balls, what an assbag.

McDonalds will still need people to clean the place up and cook the food, so there's that, plus some actual cashiers to deal with the drive through and the elderly customers who don't understand or are afraid of computers.

So, perhaps a few jobs per store lost, but if that means those who remain get paid a living wage, that's probably a fair trade.
 
2014-08-14 08:47:28 PM  
If it gets us to a post-employment future that much quicker, maybe it's not all bad.
 
2014-08-14 08:47:55 PM  
These arguments always assume that labor costs are a significant part of the price you pay for a Big Mac.
 
2014-08-14 08:48:10 PM  
I'm sure McDonald's would have never done this if they hadn't asked for more money
 
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2014-08-14 08:49:15 PM  

Walker: Contrary to what striking fast food workers may like to believe, McDonald's exits solely to turn a profit.  It's not a charity, and it's not there to "provide" them with jobs.


And it's done.  I will never eat McDonald's food again.
 
2014-08-14 08:51:06 PM  
It's just the beginning, Sheeple!  Wait until 2020 when RoboMayor McCheese is kicking down your door asking where Sarah Conner is!
 
2014-08-14 08:53:42 PM  
The problem with this business strategy is it's not sustainable. The customer base of fast-food restaurants is primarily low to middle income people. The 1%+ champagne and caviar demographic are never going to be caught dead at McD's. So as you continue to decrease employment opportunity and income for your customers, you may see a short-term decrease in expenses/increase in profits, but in the end you're ruining your future viability. But hey, it's the American way.
 
2014-08-14 09:00:42 PM  
Relevant and worth a watch: http://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQU
 
2014-08-14 09:11:52 PM  
So...the job creators are creating jobs for automated cashiers?

I'm a just a tad suspicious of these Captains of Industry.
 
2014-08-14 09:12:40 PM  

itsdan: I'm sure McDonald's would have never done this if they hadn't asked for more money


Bingo. They were going to do this the moment it made economic sense to do so.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-14 09:15:37 PM  
either McDonald's would be forced to raise its prices to unsustainable levels or the company would find a way to operate with fewer people

"Unsustainable" is a bad word. Probably McDonald's could make a profit with $15 per hour human button pushers. But why would they if they can have customers push buttons for less money?
 
2014-08-14 09:25:42 PM  
I would rather fast food restaurants automated the food preparation process and kept the cashiers.

static1.businessinsider.com

www.untoldentertainment.com
 
2014-08-14 09:31:30 PM  
To see what a abysmal failure this will be just go to any grocery store and watch  the  self checkout lines
 
2014-08-14 09:34:15 PM  
They'll still manage to get the order wrong.
 
2014-08-14 09:34:44 PM  
The true measure of a sociopath is that you treat people as things.
 
2014-08-14 09:35:03 PM  

Azlefty: To see what a abysmal failure this will be just go to any grocery store and watch  the  self checkout lines


This!
 
2014-08-14 09:35:26 PM  

Azlefty: To see what a abysmal failure this will be just go to any grocery store and watch  the  self checkout lines


Why are those a failure? Self-checkouts remove the anxiety of social interaction with other human beings, making my regular purchase of 12 cucumbers and Vaseline a much smoother process.
 
2014-08-14 09:37:22 PM  
Just imagine how filthy those things will get.
 
2014-08-14 09:37:32 PM  

Cyrus the Mediocre: Azlefty: To see what a abysmal failure this will be just go to any grocery store and watch  the  self checkout lines

Why are those a failure? Self-checkouts remove the anxiety of social interaction with other human beings, making my regular purchase of 12 cucumbers and Vaseline a much smoother process.


Well for some they are, but when you are buying  your personal needs products do you ever get stuck behind the  lady who can't figure out how to scan her tampons?

FYI:  Astroglide, it is much gentler on the  system and more environmentally friendly
 
2014-08-14 09:39:00 PM  
Jack in the box here has had this for at least a year. Why is this new? They also have awesome cashiers everyone waits in line for rather than fark with the kiosk
 
2014-08-14 09:39:02 PM  

optikeye: The true measure of a sociopath  is that you treat people as things.


I was going to change sociopath to CEO, but in todays world they are pretty much  the  same
 
2014-08-14 09:40:16 PM  

Cyrus the Mediocre: Azlefty: To see what a abysmal failure this will be just go to any grocery store and watch  the  self checkout lines

Why are those a failure? Self-checkouts remove the anxiety of social interaction with other human beings, making my regular purchase of 12 cucumbers and Vaseline a much smoother process.


media.giphy.com
 
2014-08-14 09:40:21 PM  
Herman Cain has a TV network?
 
2014-08-14 09:41:10 PM  

Cyrus the Mediocre: Azlefty: To see what a abysmal failure this will be just go to any grocery store and watch  the  self checkout lines

Why are those a failure? Self-checkouts remove the anxiety of social interaction with other human beings, making my regular purchase of 12 cucumbers and Vaseline a much smoother process.


Thank God you can look up vegetables. You can get your whole fun package for the price of a head of ice berg lettuce.

/that would be stealing
//don't do that
 
2014-08-14 09:42:09 PM  

fusillade762: Herman Cain has a TV network?


Channel 999
 
2014-08-14 09:55:35 PM  

djkutch: Cyrus the Mediocre: Azlefty: To see what a abysmal failure this will be just go to any grocery store and watch  the  self checkout lines

Why are those a failure? Self-checkouts remove the anxiety of social interaction with other human beings, making my regular purchase of 12 cucumbers and Vaseline a much smoother process.

Thank God you can look up vegetables. You can get your whole fun package for the price of a head of ice berg lettuce.

/that would be stealing
//don't do that


Begin Old Man Rant

In my days as a cashier we had to memorize pages and pages of produce codes before we could start the job. I actually had to create flash cards and practice with my girlfriend. That was also when I discovered I'd been mispronouncing "rutabaga" all my life.

/Old Man Rant
 
2014-08-14 09:57:29 PM  

Azlefty: Well for some they are, but when you are buying  your personal needs products do you ever get stuck behind the  lady who can't figure out how to scan her tampons?


I am that lady.

/Point being, businesses have been moving more and more to having the customer do the ordering/scaling themselves.  From restaurants where you choose your own ingredients to retail stores where you pick up items yourself.  No of this is really indicative of an end to labor.
 
2014-08-14 10:17:36 PM  
Not that people actually go to McDs for the fine dining experience, but dealing with machines for this kind of thing could prove frustrating.

McDs might find their cost savings offset by a loss of revenue.
 
2014-08-14 10:20:29 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-14 10:20:35 PM  

gilgigamesh: Not that people actually go to McDs for the fine dining experience, but dealing with machines for this kind of thing could prove frustrating.

McDs might find their cost savings offset by a loss of revenue.


Wawa (a northeast convenience store/deli) has had touch screen ordering for over a decade.  I don't think they started it as a means to reduce staffing though as much as to just improve workflow, as previous to that you would place your order with the same people who would make it, so they'd have to stop making stuff to take orders.

It actually works incredibly well - you hit the buttons for what you like, and you can even customize to your heart's content without feeling like a bother as no one has to write it all down and you aren't holding anyone else up.   The order prints out behind the counter, they make it, and you're in and out quickly.
 
2014-08-14 10:26:32 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: gilgigamesh: Not that people actually go to McDs for the fine dining experience, but dealing with machines for this kind of thing could prove frustrating.

McDs might find their cost savings offset by a loss of revenue.

Wawa (a northeast convenience store/deli) has had touch screen ordering for over a decade.  I don't think they started it as a means to reduce staffing though as much as to just improve workflow, as previous to that you would place your order with the same people who would make it, so they'd have to stop making stuff to take orders.

It actually works incredibly well - you hit the buttons for what you like, and you can even customize to your heart's content without feeling like a bother as no one has to write it all down and you aren't holding anyone else up.   The order prints out behind the counter, they make it, and you're in and out quickly.


That's true, and Wawa is thriving.

But as you noted, they haven't replaced people with machines so much as redirected them to making the subs.

Also, Wawa blows.
 
2014-08-14 10:43:08 PM  
No, it's not a charity, but when you no longer have a manufacturing economy or a service economy, what's left? It ain't gonna be pretty.

Honduras and Romania are going to look like great places to emigrate to.
 
2014-08-14 10:49:26 PM  
cdn0.lostateminor.com

Wake me up when the put these in fast food restaurants.
 
2014-08-14 10:52:22 PM  
"Gimmie a goddamn Happy Meal..."

*hic*

*thump... thump*

"Hey... Is this thing on?"
 
2014-08-14 10:54:13 PM  

Therion: [cdn0.lostateminor.com image 650x488]

Wake me up when the put these in fast food restaurants.


Is that the BJ3000?
 
2014-08-14 10:55:03 PM  
The Jack in the Box in Palo Alto next to Stanford has doing this for years.
 
2014-08-14 11:06:29 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-08-14 11:26:36 PM  
I remember years ago when it was predicted that atm's would replace tellers. You'd have to pay to see a teller. And there would be one or two locations at most in most cities. Then online banking would do this. Then mobile banking would do this. Ah, good times.

What were we talking about again?
 
2014-08-14 11:31:49 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: I remember years ago when it was predicted that atm's would replace tellers. You'd have to pay to see a teller. And there would be one or two locations at most in most cities. Then online banking would do this. Then mobile banking would do this. Ah, good times.

What were we talking about again?


Same with self-checkout lines in grocery stores. They were totally going to replace cashiers. Meanwhile, I regularly see people skip the self-checkout with no line to go stand in line at an actual cashier, and when people actually do go, an employee is pretty much guaranteed to have to come over at some point to fix some problem, or check ID, or whatever.
 
2014-08-14 11:33:33 PM  

Azlefty: To see what a abysmal failure this will be just go to any grocery store and watch  the  self checkout lines


It can be a little awkward at times but I don't generally have any problems with self checkout lines at the grocery store.  There's usually one person manning a bank of self checkout machines in case something needs to be overridden or entered manually so it's not fully automated.
 
2014-08-14 11:36:21 PM  
You can't buy alcohol at self-checkouts in California

/they're useless as far as I'm concerned
 
2014-08-15 12:04:37 AM  
Meanwhile, the technicians who service the robots and the engineers who design them do not eat at McDonalds.

The people who no longer have jobs would, except they no longer can afford to.

Great business plan, guys.
 
2014-08-15 12:09:48 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: You can't buy alcohol at self-checkouts in California

/they're useless as far as I'm concerned


Dear god, what a dystopia. Here in AZ at the grocery store, you just wave at the cashier when you're doing your self-check-out and she hits a button and the machine lets you bag it.
 
2014-08-15 12:19:02 AM  

toraque: Meanwhile, the technicians who service the robots and the engineers who design them do not eat at McDonalds.

The people who no longer have jobs would, except they no longer can afford to.

Great business plan, guys.


Why wouldn't they eat there?  Pretty much everyone eats at McDonalds from time to time, even rich people:

collegecandy.files.wordpress.com

collegecandy.files.wordpress.com

collegecandy.files.wordpress.com

www.vosizneias.com

OK, so the last one is DQ, but it still works.
 
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