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(Variety)   Robin Williams' wife reveals that he was in the early stages of Parkinson's Disease   (variety.com) divider line 339
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2014-08-14 03:05:11 PM  
Her claim seems a little shaky....
 
2014-08-14 03:09:14 PM  

BravadoGT: Her claim seems a little shaky....


Dude.  Really.
 
2014-08-14 03:09:59 PM  
I watched my friend's dad die of that.
Very vibrant man reduced to not being even able to open his eyes.
I think he must have been going insane trapped in his own body.
I can't blame Robin for not wanting that fate.
 
2014-08-14 03:10:54 PM  

Chariset: BravadoGT: Her claim seems a little shaky....

Dude.  Really.


Ttoo sssoon?
 
2014-08-14 03:12:46 PM  
Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.
 
2014-08-14 03:15:13 PM  

what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.


I suppose so but how does that account for the haphazard way he did it?  He tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife and when that didn't work he hanged himself with a belt.  He was trying to kill himself with whatever was around, suggesting to me that this was a rash decision rather than something he'd planned for a long time.
 
2014-08-14 03:16:28 PM  

vernonFL: Chariset: BravadoGT: Her claim seems a little shaky....

Dude.  Really.

Ttoo sssoon?



Too stupid.

At least try something new rather than dredge up the old.
 
2014-08-14 03:20:13 PM  
I'm thinking the "suicide is selfish" crowd won't have as much to say in this thread, but they'll still show up.
 
2014-08-14 03:21:38 PM  

nekom: I suppose so but how does that account for the haphazard way he did it? He tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife and when that didn't work he hanged himself with a belt. He was trying to kill himself with whatever was around, suggesting to me that this was a rash decision rather than something he'd planned for a long time.


Just because you've figured out a way to keep the old and familiar demons at bay, doesn't mean a new one can't creep up and send your whole defense into chaos.
 
2014-08-14 03:22:04 PM  

nekom: what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.

I suppose so but how does that account for the haphazard way he did it?  He tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife and when that didn't work he hanged himself with a belt.  He was trying to kill himself with whatever was around, suggesting to me that this was a rash decision rather than something he'd planned for a long time.



There's a difference between planning and going through with it. He lived in Tiburon, he could have just as easily made the ~20 minute drive to the Golden Gate Bridge and did his thing.

I would also imagine that there were steps made to prevent him from doing it (removing guns, sharp objects, etc).  Short of living in a padded room, there are plenty of ways you can kill yourself.  Some ways are easier and faster than others.
 
2014-08-14 03:22:47 PM  

nekom: what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.

I suppose so but how does that account for the haphazard way he did it?  He tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife and when that didn't work he hanged himself with a belt.  He was trying to kill himself with whatever was around, suggesting to me that this was a rash decision rather than something he'd planned for a long time.


Look, I don't know what demons he had to battle in his life, but I can imagine this was the last straw.
 
2014-08-14 03:26:36 PM  

LessO2: vernonFL: Chariset: BravadoGT: Her claim seems a little shaky....

Dude.  Really.

Ttoo sssoon?


Too stupid.

At least try something new rather than dredge up the old.


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2014-08-14 03:26:44 PM  
Guy didn't have Michael J. Fox on speed dial?
 
2014-08-14 03:27:07 PM  

what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.


I said the same thing in the headline that was actually funny.

Whoever submitted that deserves to take a bow.
 
2014-08-14 03:27:27 PM  
Kind of a big "F--- you" to MJ Fox.
 
2014-08-14 03:27:34 PM  
I lost my mom on the 9th, so I've had a hard time reacting to Williams' death. I can't imagine what he was going through, and I am genuinely sorry that the world has lost such a vibrant, creative spirit.
 
2014-08-14 03:27:46 PM  
Patch McFly?
 
2014-08-14 03:29:22 PM  

what_now: nekom: what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.

I suppose so but how does that account for the haphazard way he did it?  He tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife and when that didn't work he hanged himself with a belt.  He was trying to kill himself with whatever was around, suggesting to me that this was a rash decision rather than something he'd planned for a long time.

Look, I don't know what demons he had to battle in his life, but I can imagine this was the last straw.


Maybe some financial information that came to him that day.
 
2014-08-14 03:29:50 PM  

cliffy: Patch McFly?


Mrs. Hollywood
 
2014-08-14 03:30:14 PM  
I still think he was choking and stroking, and his personal assistant set him up to look like he was a suicide before the police arrived.

I mean, come on. It makes sense. Suicide is a far more dignified way to be found dead than David Caradining it.

/tinfoil hat.
 
2014-08-14 03:30:26 PM  
A lot of celebrity deaths are sad, but this one was genuinely heartbreaking. It makes me mad at the world. People getting shot and shiat getting burned down on the other side of my state, and we can't save the guy who made us laugh.

Earth sucks.
 
2014-08-14 03:30:35 PM  
Depression isn't something you can just shake off.
 
2014-08-14 03:30:47 PM  

nekom: what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.

I suppose so but how does that account for the haphazard way he did it?  He tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife and when that didn't work he hanged himself with a belt.  He was trying to kill himself with whatever was around, suggesting to me that this was a rash decision rather than something he'd planned for a long time.


There is a big difference in the way men and women commit suicide. Women usually carefully plan it. Men often do, too, and spend a lot of time putting their affairs in order. But, all too often, suicide is a quickly-made decision for men and executed almost immediately.
 
GBB
2014-08-14 03:30:49 PM  
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"That was an option?   Son of a ....."
 
2014-08-14 03:31:29 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Guy didn't have Michael J. Fox on speed dial?




Yes, but when he dialed him, he kept hitting the wrong numbers.....
 
2014-08-14 03:31:42 PM  

lostcat: Kind of a big "F--- you" to MJ Fox.


Kind of, but they're two separate people and Fox, as far as we know, isn't suffering with bipolar as well.
 
2014-08-14 03:31:47 PM  

BravadoGT: Her claim seems a little shaky....


Done in one
 
2014-08-14 03:32:02 PM  

BravadoGT: Her claim seems a little shaky....


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2014-08-14 03:32:12 PM  

grokca: I watched my friend's dad die of that.
Very vibrant man reduced to not being even able to open his eyes.
I think he must have been going insane trapped in his own body.
I can't blame Robin for not wanting that fate.


No kidding. My dad has PD, had it for a couple of yrs. I didn't know how bad he was until I went back east to help take care of him for a week. I can't imagine what my dad is thinking/feeling.
 
2014-08-14 03:32:37 PM  

LessO2: nekom: what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.

I suppose so but how does that account for the haphazard way he did it?  He tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife and when that didn't work he hanged himself with a belt.  He was trying to kill himself with whatever was around, suggesting to me that this was a rash decision rather than something he'd planned for a long time.


There's a difference between planning and going through with it. He lived in Tiburon, he could have just as easily made the ~20 minute drive to the Golden Gate Bridge and did his thing.

I would also imagine that there were steps made to prevent him from doing it (removing guns, sharp objects, etc).  Short of living in a padded room, there are plenty of ways you can kill yourself.  Some ways are easier and faster than others.


You have hit the nexus of what every suicide survivor has to go thru...as a spouse/child of the person who is now dead, you constantly ask yourself, what could I have done differently to stop it happening, but the sad truth of the matter is..if someone wants to kill themselves, no matter what you do..even if you are on guard 24/7, they will find a way.

That's what you learn, and it's a hard truth to accept, but it's basically what happens.
 
2014-08-14 03:32:46 PM  

libranoelrose: what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.

I said the same thing in the headline that was actually funny.

Whoever submitted that deserves to take a bow.


*takes a bow*
 
2014-08-14 03:32:53 PM  
Parkinsons progresses pretty slowly, if he was in the "early stages" he would have years(10-20?) to go before things got intolerable.
 
2014-08-14 03:33:17 PM  

nekom: what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.

I suppose so but how does that account for the haphazard way he did it?  He tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife and when that didn't work he hanged himself with a belt.  He was trying to kill himself with whatever was around, suggesting to me that this was a rash decision rather than something he'd planned for a long time.


He was bipolar, and one of the trademark symptoms is uncontrollable impulsivity. He probably tried the wrists, realized it wasn't working, and that got him to a point where he was either going to have to explain the cuts to his family or do something else, so he did something else.
 
2014-08-14 03:33:22 PM  
 
2014-08-14 03:33:22 PM  
In the Fark thread from when he went back to rehab I wrote: "I wouldn't wish Robin Williams' brain on my worst enemy. "

I had no idea.
 
2014-08-14 03:33:33 PM  
This makes me even more sad.

Michael J Fox's Parkinson's bit on "Curb Your Enthusiasm" was freaking brilliant. Imagine, just imagine if you will...what Williams could have done with the material.

I guess, maybe Williams felt he would be defined more by what he had, than what he gave. It's unfortunate.
 
2014-08-14 03:33:47 PM  

grokca: I watched my friend's dad die of that.
Very vibrant man reduced to not being even able to open his eyes.
I think he must have been going insane trapped in his own body.
I can't blame Robin for not wanting that fate.


My mom has it. The medicine they give her is as hard on her as the disease. She has nightmares every night. It's hard watching her condition deteriorate.
 
2014-08-14 03:35:32 PM  
 
2014-08-14 03:35:41 PM  

Marine1: A lot of celebrity deaths are sad, but this one was genuinely heartbreaking. It makes me mad at the world. People getting shot and shiat getting burned down on the other side of my state, and we can't save the guy who made us laugh.

Earth sucks.


Heartbreaking for his family and close friends, but I never met the guy.  He was funny and made me laugh, but if I let it get to me too much when one of my favorite actors, musicians or comedians passed away I'd go crazy - or maybe crazier.
 
2014-08-14 03:35:48 PM  

moel: LessO2: nekom: what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.

I suppose so but how does that account for the haphazard way he did it?  He tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife and when that didn't work he hanged himself with a belt.  He was trying to kill himself with whatever was around, suggesting to me that this was a rash decision rather than something he'd planned for a long time.


There's a difference between planning and going through with it. He lived in Tiburon, he could have just as easily made the ~20 minute drive to the Golden Gate Bridge and did his thing.

I would also imagine that there were steps made to prevent him from doing it (removing guns, sharp objects, etc).  Short of living in a padded room, there are plenty of ways you can kill yourself.  Some ways are easier and faster than others.

You have hit the nexus of what every suicide survivor has to go thru...as a spouse/child of the person who is now dead, you constantly ask yourself, what could I have done differently to stop it happening, but the sad truth of the matter is..if someone wants to kill themselves, no matter what you do..even if you are on guard 24/7, they will find a way.

That's what you learn, and it's a hard truth to accept, but it's basically what happens.


You. sadly, sound like your talking from experience.
 
2014-08-14 03:35:53 PM  
I met him at a run in Sonoma once, he was a very hairy man.
 
2014-08-14 03:36:03 PM  
Now I'm even more disappointed with his suicide.

I bet he'd have used the disease to create a routine that would RULE!
 
2014-08-14 03:36:09 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: nekom: I suppose so but how does that account for the haphazard way he did it? He tried to slit his wrists with a pocket knife and when that didn't work he hanged himself with a belt. He was trying to kill himself with whatever was around, suggesting to me that this was a rash decision rather than something he'd planned for a long time.

Just because you've figured out a way to keep the old and familiar demons at bay, doesn't mean a new one can't creep up and send your whole defense into chaos.


Oh god, now you've done it!
 
2014-08-14 03:36:27 PM  

libranoelrose: what_now: Ok. This makes a lot more sense now.

I said the same thing in the headline that was actually funny.

Whoever submitted that deserves to take a bow.


What headline was that?
 
2014-08-14 03:37:47 PM  

BravadoGT: Her claim seems a little shaky....


I would have gone with "That's a pretty shaky reason to off yourself"
 
2014-08-14 03:38:03 PM  
Parkinson's can be really hard on an older person.  Accelerated dementia, for one, can leave one unable to make the final decision by the time you realize what's in store for you.  After watching my stepdad go from a reasonably active old dude to a wheelchair-bound mummy in a short time all I can say is godspeed funny man.
 
2014-08-14 03:38:34 PM  

Fonaibung: I lost my mom on the 9th, so I've had a hard time reacting to Williams' death. I can't imagine what he was going through, and I am genuinely sorry that the world has lost such a vibrant, creative spirit.


Very sorry for your loss.
 
2014-08-14 03:38:39 PM  

gfid: Marine1: A lot of celebrity deaths are sad, but this one was genuinely heartbreaking. It makes me mad at the world. People getting shot and shiat getting burned down on the other side of my state, and we can't save the guy who made us laugh.

Earth sucks.

Heartbreaking for his family and close friends, but I never met the guy.  He was funny and made me laugh, but if I let it get to me too much when one of my favorite actors, musicians or comedians passed away I'd go crazy - or maybe crazier.


Hm... I should say heartbreaking in that you hate to see a guy tormented like that. You get some sort of connection to people seeing them perform and having joy brought to you by them, and then to see that it had to end that way for them... it was sort of a final straw in what I had been dealing with upon hearing of his death.

/fark depression
//fark Parkinsons
 
2014-08-14 03:39:11 PM  

lostcat: Kind of a big "F--- you" to MJ Fox.


It was nothing of the sort.  It wasn't a F-- you to anyone.   He decided to go while he could still do it.  Maybe he wanted to spare his family and the world the pain of watching Parkinson's ravage his body.  It took courage.  Michael J. Fox is no less courageous for hanging in there.   Different men, different choices.  Both admirable individuals.
 
2014-08-14 03:39:13 PM  
My grandfather has it, and it has been really sad to see such a strong, independent man being made so helpless.
 
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