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(Huffington Post UK)   "Non-smokers don't get the whole smoking thing, judging us as disgusting humans with a disgusting habit. The idea of choosing to trash your health, your looks and your bank balance for the sake of a stinky little cancer stick does not make sense"   (huffingtonpost.co.uk) divider line 76
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2014-08-14 01:38:55 PM  
But beyond ruining your lungs, your teeth, your gums, your skin, your overall health, your bank account, and beyond littering the storm drains and starting the occasional wildfire with carelessly discarded butts -- it's just SOOOOOOOOO cool.
 
2014-08-14 01:45:12 PM  

BKITU: But beyond ruining your lungs, your teeth, your gums, your skin, your overall health, your bank account, and beyond littering the storm drains and starting the occasional wildfire with carelessly discarded butts -- it's just SOOOOOOOOO cool.


Gandalf smoked and he was a farking wizard.

Your move.
 
2014-08-14 01:47:04 PM  
I quit and it was one of the best things ive ever done. Im really glad I quit. And, it wasnt *that* hard.
 
2014-08-14 01:50:22 PM  
I wouldn't be against smokers except for the fact that since I quit the smell of cigarette smoke makes me nauseous

/just go downwind to smoke
//far downwind
 
2014-08-14 01:53:56 PM  
I wanted to pick up smoking, but decided it was too glamorous.
 
2014-08-14 01:56:01 PM  
in before the "my body my choice, stop driving a car if you're so concerned about your precious air" crowd.

/smoked for 13 years
//3 years clean in 2 months
 
2014-08-14 01:56:33 PM  
I'm one of those horrible people sensitive to smells that I also hate. Most of the time I try to ignore stuff, I'm not going to comment on most BO or perfume, but cigarettes are utterly foul. And they stink up meters around you, and it's ducking impossible to breathe around them. Screw you for getting addicted in the first place because you think it makes you cool.
 
2014-08-14 02:11:10 PM  
There's no reason anyone should still be smoking cigarettes.  eCigs are safer, cheaper, and can be used indoors without tainting all your belongings with that horrible smokers smell.
 
2014-08-14 02:11:42 PM  
Buy dried weeds wrapping in paper.  Set on fire.  Repeat.
 
2014-08-14 02:16:23 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Buy dried weeds wrapping in paper.  Set on fire.  Repeat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XDxAzVEbN4

Relevant, and very funny.
 
2014-08-14 02:22:52 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I wouldn't be against smokers except for the fact that since I quit the smell of cigarette smoke makes me nauseous

/just go downwind to smoke
//far downwind


img.fark.net

You quit WAAAAY too late!
 
2014-08-14 02:27:21 PM  

Diogenes: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I wouldn't be against smokers except for the fact that since I quit the smell of cigarette smoke makes me nauseous

/just go downwind to smoke
//far downwind

[img.fark.net image 600x450]

You quit WAAAAY too late!


My real picture is even worse
 
2014-08-14 02:33:28 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: My real picture is even worse


Well, you could be me.  Every picture taken of me makes it look like I just watched the videotape in The Ring.
 
2014-08-14 03:10:18 PM  
No, I understand. It's an addiction.
 
2014-08-14 03:58:16 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: There's no reason anyone should still be smoking cigarettes.  eCigs are safer, cheaper, and can be used indoors without tainting all your belongings with that horrible smokers smell.


Safer for some people, maybe, but not me. I've never smoked a day in my life and I'm also probably some statistical outlier, but every time I'm around one of those e-cigs I get a night of insomnia and a throat that feels like I've been gargling glass shards.
 
2014-08-14 03:59:25 PM  
My mother smoked for 45.5 years!  Do you know what made her quit?  She was diagnosed with kidney cancer.  So she had it removed.  Because she only had one kidney, she had to go to dialysis for 4.5 years.  For three of those years, she was cancer free.  But when it came back, it slowly took over her body.  And because she only had one kidney, she couldn't get chemo.  So she took an experimental oral medication that cost $1000 a month.  Ouch!

Anyway, that didn't work and she was in and out of hospitals until the last six weeks of her life.  Much of that time, she was on morphine and bed ridden.  She couldn't eat because the cancer spread to her jaw.  So she was fed Ensure via IV.

The last two days, she went to her home so she could die there.  We buried her with a closed casket because of rhe facial deformity.


In summary, she was in and out of consciousness her last six weeks of life.  For three years, she couldn't travel out of town because of dialysis.

The trip we gave her and my father on their 50th anniversary was never used.

As I was growing up, she switched from Kent's to a lower tar cigarette in hopes of it being healthier.  I knew then that she would die of cancer.  And she did.

When we were at the funeral, all the friends were crying.  My brothers, sister, father and I were all stoic and dry eyed.  For she was out of pain and misery.

For those of you that smoke....stop....for yourselves.  Never quit quitting until you truly quit.   The agony you spare yourself will be worth it.


/I'll get out of the pulpit now
 
2014-08-14 04:28:34 PM  
Since this is Huffington Post, I am surprised she didn't blame cis-gendered white males and told them to check their privilege
 
2014-08-14 04:30:39 PM  

Lando Lincoln: No, I understand. It's an addiction.


Agreed.
 
2014-08-14 04:35:36 PM  

SphericalTime: it's ducking impossible to breathe around them.


Did you die? No? Then it isn't "ducking" impossible to breath around them.

/exaggerate much?
 
2014-08-14 04:40:35 PM  

Pokey.Clyde: SphericalTime: it's ducking impossible to breathe around them.

Did you die? No? Then it isn't "ducking" impossible to breath around them.

/exaggerate much?


With legitimate smoke, his body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.
 
2014-08-14 04:41:30 PM  
ex smoker for about 3 years now and I disagree I still love the smell of cigaret smoke.
 
2014-08-14 04:45:54 PM  
Meh, smoke cigars and don't inhale that stuff into your lungs.
 
2014-08-14 04:56:06 PM  

Phony_Soldier: Meh, smoke cigars and don't inhale that stuff into your lungs.


www.sixstepscreening.org

"LOL great idea!"
 
2014-08-14 05:34:37 PM  
What I don't "get" is your biatchiness at not being able to give me cancer at the same time as you get it. I also don't "get" is the total disregard for shiat like fire danger when throwing your butts out the window. And while we're on the subject, I also don't "get" your insistence that the ground is the perfect place for the remains of your farking cigarettes.

Teeth Staining, Tumor Causing, Smelly Puking Habit?Sure it is, but I don't give two farks what you do to yourself, it's your utter lack of any kind of consideration of those around you that pisses ME off.
 
2014-08-14 06:15:45 PM  

Mikey1969: What I don't "get" is your biatchiness at not being able to give me cancer at the same time as you get it. I also don't "get" is the total disregard for shiat like fire danger when throwing your butts out the window. And while we're on the subject, I also don't "get" your insistence that the ground is the perfect place for the remains of your farking cigarettes.

Teeth Staining, Tumor Causing, Smelly Puking Habit?Sure it is, but I don't give two farks what you do to yourself, it's your utter lack of any kind of consideration of those around you that pisses ME off.


I generally understand people being biatchy at me if I smoke near a doorway or on a crowded sidewalk. I get it. You don't want to smell it or be exposed to it and I honestly understand and have no wish to offend. Thought I was in a place people wouldn't mind. Turned out not to be the case. Ask forgiveness and put it out or move away.

I do get a bit defensive and annoyed when I'm on a patio at a bar, or in a bar that explicitly allows smoking indoors (in TN any place that is 21+ only) and people complain. The world no more revolves around non-smokers than it does smokers. Yes I want to quit one day, but right now my stress level is still through the roof and to be honest I really enjoy a cig with a beer or other adult beverage. Don't harass smokers when there within their designated space to partake.

If I'm someplace where smoking is explicitly allowed don't come up and tell me how much you hate smoking or rattle off to me how bad it is for me. I know all that, and yes I am an addict. I'd also like to point out that non-smoklers really don't understand what quitting smoking is like and how much of your life quitting can consume especially when a lot of your friends probably smoke and it seems that people all around you all the time are lighting up. You have to be 100% committed to avoid the temptation every time you walk up to the counter at a gas station to buy a coke and see your favorite brand right there behind the counter or going out to your favorite bar and seeing someone light up.

/end rant
 
2014-08-14 06:18:45 PM  

James!: BKITU: But beyond ruining your lungs, your teeth, your gums, your skin, your overall health, your bank account, and beyond littering the storm drains and starting the occasional wildfire with carelessly discarded butts -- it's just SOOOOOOOOO cool.

Gandalf smoked and he was a farking wizard.

Your move.


That wasn't tobacco.
 
2014-08-14 06:19:59 PM  

Mikey1969: I also don't "get" your insistence that the ground is the perfect place for the remains of your farking cigarettes.


I smoke a pipe. No eternal leftovers like cigarette butts. Even if I empty it on the ground (I almost never do) it just leaves a little bit of ash that doesn't sit in the gutter for years.
 
2014-08-14 08:02:12 PM  

SphericalTime: I'm one of those horrible people sensitive to smells that I also hate. Most of the time I try to ignore stuff, I'm not going to comment on most BO or perfume, but cigarettes are utterly foul. And they stink up meters around you, and it's ducking impossible to breathe around them. Screw you for getting addicted in the first place because you think it makes you cool.


SauronWasFramed: My mother smoked for 45.5 years!  Do you know what made her quit?  She was diagnosed with kidney cancer.  So she had it removed.  Because she only had one kidney, she had to go to dialysis for 4.5 years.  For three of those years, she was cancer free.  But when it came back, it slowly took over her body.  And because she only had one kidney, she couldn't get chemo.  So she took an experimental oral medication that cost $1000 a month.  Ouch!

Anyway, that didn't work and she was in and out of hospitals until the last six weeks of her life.  Much of that time, she was on morphine and bed ridden.  She couldn't eat because the cancer spread to her jaw.  So she was fed Ensure via IV.

The last two days, she went to her home so she could die there.  We buried her with a closed casket because of rhe facial deformity.


In summary, she was in and out of consciousness her last six weeks of life.  For three years, she couldn't travel out of town because of dialysis.

The trip we gave her and my father on their 50th anniversary was never used.

As I was growing up, she switched from Kent's to a lower tar cigarette in hopes of it being healthier.  I knew then that she would die of cancer.  And she did.

When we were at the funeral, all the friends were crying.  My brothers, sister, father and I were all stoic and dry eyed.  For she was out of pain and misery.

For those of you that smoke....stop....for yourselves.  Never quit quitting until you truly quit.   The agony you spare yourself will be worth it.


/I'll get out of the pulpit now


These.
 
2014-08-14 08:04:15 PM  
Smoked in high school and college for a few years, quit. Started smoking again during a shift at a treeplanting camp, hand rolling Drum cigarettes with a cute French Canadian girl, lasted about 10 months (the smoking habit). Like the very occasional Drum, one every 2 years or so. I do like the initial smell and the taste of a handrolled smoke would never, ever have the habit again.
 
2014-08-14 08:27:41 PM  

Pubby: I do get a bit defensive and annoyed when I'm on a patio at a bar, or in a bar that explicitly allows smoking indoors (in TN any place that is 21+ only) and people complain. The world no more revolves around non-smokers than it does smokers. Yes I want to quit one day, but right now my stress level is still through the roof and to be honest I really enjoy a cig with a beer or other adult beverage. Don't harass smokers when there within their designated space to partake.


Outdoors is much easier to take, there is at least some ventilation. I might not like the smell all that much, but it's not the same as sitting in an actual cloud you could cut with a knife.

If I'm someplace where smoking is explicitly allowed don't come up and tell me how much you hate smoking or rattle off to me how bad it is for me. I know all that, and yes I am an addict. I'd also like to point out that non-smoklers really don't understand what quitting smoking is like and how much of your life quitting can consume especially when a lot of your friends probably smoke and it seems that people all around you all the time are lighting up. You have to be 100% committed to avoid the temptation every time you walk up to the counter at a gas station to buy a coke and see your favorite brand right there behind the counter or going out to your favorite bar and seeing someone light up.

I don't actually come up to people and say anything. If someone sits down next to me somewhere indoors and lights up, I might get pissed, especially if there are other open seats. I don't go up and yell at random people, though.
 
2014-08-14 08:36:07 PM  

Sensei Can You See: Mikey1969: I also don't "get" your insistence that the ground is the perfect place for the remains of your farking cigarettes.

I smoke a pipe. No eternal leftovers like cigarette butts. Even if I empty it on the ground (I almost never do) it just leaves a little bit of ash that doesn't sit in the gutter for years.


"Eternal leftovers" also includes that cigarette smell that lives in your paint and carpet forever... I also agree with the 'less waste' concept. If it was just ash from cigarettes, that would be a different story.
 
2014-08-14 08:47:55 PM  
Gave up a 40-year habit last year - just stopped. Didn't feel the need anymore. I might've smoked half a pack a day in the early years, tried everything from regular to low-tar (blech - tasteless), unfiltered camels (no-one bums those off you), lucky strikes (only brand that ever made me cough), cigars big and small, tried a pipe for a while, then spent the last 25-30 years on roll-your-own (Drum). Only 3 or 4 a night after dinner, outside while I read a book on the verandah, and it had a considerable calming effect.

Strangely enough, I gave up marraige a month later - I wonder if there was any correlation?
 
2014-08-15 12:31:40 AM  
I quit a year and a half ago and this thread makes me want a cig baaaaaad
 
2014-08-15 01:05:47 AM  
In that case I'mma go buy my ass a non-virtual red glass hookah. Maybe next payday.
 
2014-08-15 02:47:04 AM  

James!: BKITU: But beyond ruining your lungs, your teeth, your gums, your skin, your overall health, your bank account, and beyond littering the storm drains and starting the occasional wildfire with carelessly discarded butts -- it's just SOOOOOOOOO cool.

Gandalf smoked and he was a farking wizard.

Your move.


I am now in favor of banning all tobacco products except for pipes and loose tobacco.

Gandalf never smoked a farking filtered Pall Mall.  If a pipe is good enough for a wizard, it's good enough for you.

/but seriously.  Cigarettes are made with shiat tobacco and the filter was invented for women and wimps.  If you're gonna smoke, don't bullshiat me-pack a pipe or cut a stogie.  Go big or go home.
//had a job last year where I was so stressed I started smoking again.  Blew minds when I pulled out a pack of Djarum clove unfiltereds.
 
2014-08-15 05:15:39 AM  

Phony_Soldier: Meh, smoke cigars and don't inhale that stuff into your lungs.


Smoking but "not inhaling" is what gave my grandfather lung cancer anyway. He died before I was born.

I told this to a friend's father once. I said he should quit smoking if he ever wanted to see his own grandchildren. He laughed it away. About a year later, he was diagnosed with lung cancer. Another year passed and I had to go to his funeral.

/unCSB
 
2014-08-15 07:17:57 AM  
And your smell.  But yeah, that about covers it.
 
2014-08-15 08:07:49 AM  
Today marks 2 weeks smoke free. No nicotine substitutes.
Was a heavy smoker for a while.
 
2014-08-15 08:17:52 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I wouldn't be against smokers except for the fact that since I quit the smell of cigarette smoke makes me nauseous

/just go downwind to smoke
//far downwind


You're not allowed to feel that way, apparently.  Tell a lot of smokers that the shiat they're spewing smells like anything but roses and baby farts, and you might as well have insulted their mother.  And god forbid you cough.

I sometimes wonder what would happen if the people I've had that argument with here on Fark had their pre-smoking nose back just for one day.  I bet it'd be amusing.
 
2014-08-15 08:25:23 AM  

HeartBurnKid: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I wouldn't be against smokers except for the fact that since I quit the smell of cigarette smoke makes me nauseous

/just go downwind to smoke
//far downwind

You're not allowed to feel that way, apparently.  Tell a lot of smokers that the shiat they're spewing smells like anything but roses and baby farts, and you might as well have insulted their mother.  And god forbid you cough.

I sometimes wonder what would happen if the people I've had that argument with here on Fark had their pre-smoking nose back just for one day.  I bet it'd be amusing.


I always walked very far away from people when I smoked.
 
2014-08-15 08:35:18 AM  

tripleseven: HeartBurnKid: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I wouldn't be against smokers except for the fact that since I quit the smell of cigarette smoke makes me nauseous

/just go downwind to smoke
//far downwind

You're not allowed to feel that way, apparently.  Tell a lot of smokers that the shiat they're spewing smells like anything but roses and baby farts, and you might as well have insulted their mother.  And god forbid you cough.

I sometimes wonder what would happen if the people I've had that argument with here on Fark had their pre-smoking nose back just for one day.  I bet it'd be amusing.

I always walked very far away from people when I smoked.


Damn decent of you.
 
2014-08-15 09:28:55 AM  

SauronWasFramed: My mother smoked for 45.5 years!  Do you know what made her quit?  She was diagnosed with kidney cancer.  So she had it removed.  Because she only had one kidney, she had to go to dialysis for 4.5 years.  For three of those years, she was cancer free.  But when it came back, it slowly took over her body.  And because she only had one kidney, she couldn't get chemo.  So she took an experimental oral medication that cost $1000 a month.  Ouch!

Anyway, that didn't work and she was in and out of hospitals until the last six weeks of her life.  Much of that time, she was on morphine and bed ridden.  She couldn't eat because the cancer spread to her jaw.  So she was fed Ensure via IV.

The last two days, she went to her home so she could die there.  We buried her with a closed casket because of rhe facial deformity.


In summary, she was in and out of consciousness her last six weeks of life.  For three years, she couldn't travel out of town because of dialysis.

The trip we gave her and my father on their 50th anniversary was never used.

As I was growing up, she switched from Kent's to a lower tar cigarette in hopes of it being healthier.  I knew then that she would die of cancer.  And she did.

When we were at the funeral, all the friends were crying.  My brothers, sister, father and I were all stoic and dry eyed.  For she was out of pain and misery.

For those of you that smoke....stop....for yourselves.  Never quit quitting until you truly quit.   The agony you spare yourself will be worth it.


/I'll get out of the pulpit now


We disagree on political subjects, but I went through nearly the same thing with my mother.  I wouldn't wish that on anyone.  The siblings/nieces/nephews smoking at the funeral made me want to pull my hair out.  Sorry your mother went through so much pain.
 
2014-08-15 10:54:08 AM  

HeartBurnKid: tripleseven: HeartBurnKid: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I wouldn't be against smokers except for the fact that since I quit the smell of cigarette smoke makes me nauseous

/just go downwind to smoke
//far downwind

You're not allowed to feel that way, apparently.  Tell a lot of smokers that the shiat they're spewing smells like anything but roses and baby farts, and you might as well have insulted their mother.  And god forbid you cough.

I sometimes wonder what would happen if the people I've had that argument with here on Fark had their pre-smoking nose back just for one day.  I bet it'd be amusing.

I always walked very far away from people when I smoked.

Damn decent of you.


You mean...

Damn decent of you!

He's very far away. You'll have to shout.
 
2014-08-15 11:21:59 AM  

HeartBurnKid: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I wouldn't be against smokers except for the fact that since I quit the smell of cigarette smoke makes me nauseous

/just go downwind to smoke
//far downwind

You're not allowed to feel that way, apparently.  Tell a lot of smokers that the shiat they're spewing smells like anything but roses and baby farts, and you might as well have insulted their mother.  And god forbid you cough.

I sometimes wonder what would happen if the people I've had that argument with here on Fark had their pre-smoking nose back just for one day.  I bet it'd be amusing.


I know that the really inconsiderate smokers far outnumber those of us who don't smoke at work, don't smoke in public, EXCEPT the rare occasion I go to one bar that has an outside patio for smokers on the other side of the building from the outside patio for non smokers. I only smoke at home, in my garage or on my deck.

I'm sorry that there are so many that don't.  I get that smoking around a non smoker is a really stupid and inconsiderate thing to do.  I do agree with the other poster that if a smoker is in a approved area, leave us alone.  We're where you said we could be.
 
2014-08-15 12:17:10 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: eCigs are safer, cheaper, and can be used indoors without tainting all your belongings with that horrible smokers smell.


The last time we let a manufacturer tell us how safe their product was, it was cigarettes.

It's still a delivery vehicle for an incredibly addictive drug.  So what's the point of them?
 
2014-08-15 01:01:25 PM  

kwame: It's still a delivery vehicle for an incredibly addictive drug. So what's the point of them?


To give a safer method of nicotine delivery than cigarettes.  It is the byproducts of curing and burning tobacco that are the main health risk of cigarettes, not the nicotine.  Lattes are just a delivery method of a highly addictive drug as well, albeit a delivery method that is high in calories/sugar.

eCigs are just food grade glycerine, nicotine, and flavoring agents which are heated to produce a vapor.
 
2014-08-15 01:17:02 PM  

kwame: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: eCigs are safer, cheaper, and can be used indoors without tainting all your belongings with that horrible smokers smell.

The last time we let a manufacturer tell us how safe their product was, it was cigarettes.


We know exactly what goes into e-cigs.  Propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, nicotine, and flavoring.  Every single compound there has been tested and retested and is known to be safe in pretty much any amount, except the nicotine, and frankly, nicotine by itself is about as dangerous as caffeine.  So why is it that, when we combine these things (and again, combinations of them are well studied as well), we suddenly go "OMG we don't know what it does"?  Is it because of the delivery mechanism?

It's still a delivery vehicle for an incredibly addictive drug.  So what's the point of them?

What's the point of coffee?
 
2014-08-15 01:24:39 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: To give a safer method of nicotine delivery than cigarettes.


Why?  What does nicotine provide except constant withdrawal symptoms.  It's not like coffee that can stimulate for an extended period of time.

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: eCigs are just food grade glycerine, nicotine, and flavoring agents which are heated to produce a vapor.


Do you know how loose the FDA's regulation about manufacture of those things is?  Don't you find that worrisome considering you are inhaling it?

HeartBurnKid: We know exactly what goes into e-cigs. Propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, nicotine, and flavoring.


So you don't know exactly what goes into e-cigs.  You also don't know what the proportion of nicotine is from cartridge to cartridge.

HeartBurnKid: Every single compound there has been tested and retested and is known to be safe in pretty much any amount, except the nicotine


Holy sh*t.  Tested by whom?  Do you not see where you are blindly accepting the seller's guarantee that something is safe?

HeartBurnKid: What's the point of coffee?


I'm not talking about coffee.
 
2014-08-15 01:27:09 PM  
It's been three days and I hate you all.

It feels like a gerbil is gnawing important things inside of my skull.
 
2014-08-15 01:47:34 PM  

kwame: Why? What does nicotine provide except constant withdrawal symptoms. It's not like coffee that can stimulate for an extended period of time.


I'm not a smoker, but several smokers I know say it gives them energy while helping them relax/unwind.  Checking the wikipedia entry for nicotine it says it is a stimulant and mentions it also releases dopamine which causes people to feel relaxed.  So it seems like my smoker friends aren't making it up.

It sounds like your problem isn't with eCigs, but with nicotine in general.
 
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