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(Radio Insight)   Disney finally realizes that running a radio network consisting of mostly AM stations was a big Mickey Mouse idea (kids, go ask your grandparents what "AM" means)   (radioinsight.com) divider line 63
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2014-08-14 11:43:11 AM
Amplitude Mangulation.
 
2014-08-14 11:57:50 AM
Gads. Who would play music over AM?

/Sirius FTW
//but daughter listens to Kids Place Live
 
2014-08-14 12:23:26 PM
Well good, need a few more outlets for those wingnut radio personalities.
 
2014-08-14 12:23:48 PM
AM Radio is for talk, sports, politics, learning why you're going to hell and Tradio prank calls
 
2014-08-14 12:26:48 PM
Ante Meridiem. Teenagers do not know what this is. Unless you're talking about 4am, when they go to bed.
 
2014-08-14 12:28:17 PM
We have kids on Fark?
 
2014-08-14 01:02:15 PM

enry: Gads. Who would play music over AM?

/Sirius FTW
//but daughter listens to Kids Place Live


Someone with a digital AM transmitter?

AM IBOC sounds as good as analog FM.
 
2014-08-14 01:57:20 PM
More like GAYM.
 
2014-08-14 03:18:00 PM
Disney has always been a ...

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-14 03:22:54 PM
Poor Disney. If only they would have had the money to launch some FM stations...

Seriously, why AM?
 
2014-08-14 03:23:41 PM
Ancient Modulation

AM Stereo sounded pretty good before IBOC forced audio rolloff at 5kHz.
 
2014-08-14 03:24:34 PM
Aptitude Meritocracy
 
2014-08-14 03:25:59 PM
Could this have made it over FM stations?

AM can also cover a number of niches -- for example, out here in Leesburg/Frederick, they've got "The Gamut", a complete free-form station with a 13,000-song playlist spanning the 1930s through today.

Surely, there's more that can be done with AM other than Rush Limbaugh (*) and a dozen of his less entertaining imitators, telling me why I'm going to hell (**), sports talk (***); and learning Korean and Spanish (****).

Or maybe not, otherwise someone would be doing it already.

(*) Rush is like Howard Stern, a shock jock for conservatives.
(**) "Adventures in Odyssey" is sort of entertaining.
(***) I can't see any city outside of NY/Chicago/LA needing TWO sports talk stations/networks. But we have them here.
(****) Actual language learned may vary by area.
 
2014-08-14 03:28:51 PM

stpickrell: Could this have made it over FM stations?

AM can also cover a number of niches -- for example, out here in Leesburg/Frederick, they've got "The Gamut", a complete free-form station with a 13,000-song playlist spanning the 1930s through today.

Surely, there's more that can be done with AM other than Rush Limbaugh (*) and a dozen of his less entertaining imitators, telling me why I'm going to hell (**), sports talk (***); and learning Korean and Spanish (****).

Or maybe not, otherwise someone would be doing it already.

(*) Rush is like Howard Stern, a shock jock for conservatives.
(**) "Adventures in Odyssey" is sort of entertaining.
(***) I can't see any city outside of NY/Chicago/LA needing TWO sports talk stations/networks. But we have them here.
(****) Actual language learned may vary by area.


HD radio has filled that niche.  The problem is that most people don't have HD radio.
 
2014-08-14 03:29:31 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: AM Radio is for talk, sports, politics, learning why you're going to hell and Tradio prank calls


Don't forget it's the state DOT's driver information station, that you need to be within 100 yards of to pick up "zzfffttt pass is ffttpppt required ffffffttt must exit sccrrtttt"
 
2014-08-14 03:32:29 PM
And Disney doesn't own the WDIS call sign.  It belongs to a business talk station.  Though I'm sure they tried to buy it.
 
2014-08-14 03:36:07 PM
I can imagine Mickey looking over the ruins of Radio Disney, while across Toontown, Bugs Bunny
is laughing, "Hee hee hee...what a maroon! What an im-bess-ell!".....At least Disney still has ABC
(they won't let us forget that).
 
2014-08-14 03:36:52 PM
I was the contracted IT guy at ABC Radio's Chicago properties for a few months, many years ago.
The PA systems in the offices were set up to play one of the four ABC stations.
The area that played the sports radio and generic classic rock was pretty much left alone. The official Radio Disney area hardly had anyone in it. The people who had to listen to the right wing talk station all day usually muted or switched their PA to Radio Disney instead.
 
2014-08-14 03:38:44 PM
Radio is dead.
 
2014-08-14 03:38:47 PM
so the only market they had an FM station in was Indy
 
2014-08-14 03:48:09 PM
Kids,

AM stands for, Ante Meridiem (latin for 'before noon').

Meaning that Disney had a crapload of morning cartoon stations.
 
2014-08-14 03:48:54 PM
Well, it was worth a shot. You can probably buy an AM radio station for small money, and they reach a whole metro areas with not much transmitter power. Kids young enough to listen to Radio Disney probably wouldn't care about the sound quality. It's no worse than listening to an iPhone's internal speaker.....
 
2014-08-14 03:53:52 PM

The universe is laughing behind your back: Well, it was worth a shot. You can probably buy an AM radio station for small money, and they reach a whole metro areas with not much transmitter power. Kids young enough to listen to Radio Disney probably wouldn't care about the sound quality. It's no worse than listening to an iPhone's internal speaker.....


I think it did well enough. The issue wasn't AM vs FM, the issue is that -no one- really listens to OTA radio anymore.
 
2014-08-14 03:54:22 PM
-sigh- Back in the olden days (1999-2000) I had an old Dodge Dart that only had an AM radio in it with a cassette player.  My listening options were religious, Disney, or classical orchestra.  The classical channel didn't start playing until after 8 so for the rest of the time I listened to the Disney station.  Damned if I didn't find myself enjoying some of the songs... I hate myself for that.

/still have the adapter that let me listen to my dvd Walkman through the cassette player
//I suddenly feel old...
///NOT THAT OLD!
 
2014-08-14 03:54:31 PM
Looks like Dan Snyder is dumping his AM stations in the DC area.
 
2014-08-14 03:56:14 PM
Lando Lincoln: Ante Meridiem. Teenagers do not know what this is. Unless you're talking about 4am, when they go to bed.

... Not to mention Uncle Meridian and all the little Meridians.
-- J. Dangerously
 
2014-08-14 04:17:11 PM

jayhawk88: Poor Disney. If only they would have had the money to launch some FM stations...

Seriously, why AM?


The stations are dirt cheap and have fantastic range.  Kids don't really care about the audio quality.

/Always got a kick out of hearing the B52's Love Shack on Radio Disney, considering what the "love shack" is a metaphor for.
 
2014-08-14 04:19:32 PM

The Bestest: so the only market they had an FM station in was Indy


And Mobile, AL for a while.

They were counting on AM going digital, which would have brought AM up to current FM audio standards. This was during the radio consolidation age about 15 years ago.
 
2014-08-14 04:26:51 PM

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: jayhawk88: Poor Disney. If only they would have had the money to launch some FM stations...

Seriously, why AM?

The stations are dirt cheap and have fantastic range.  Kids don't really care about the audio quality.

/Always got a kick out of hearing the B52's Love Shack on Radio Disney, considering what the "love shack" is a metaphor for.


It doesn't help that in major markets like LA, every FM frequency in the band is already accounted for.
 
2014-08-14 04:30:17 PM

JerseyTim: We have kids on Fark?


Have you been to the Politics tab?
 
2014-08-14 04:39:24 PM

Unoriginal_Username: JerseyTim: We have kids on Fark?

Have you been to the Politics tab?


Or TFD?
 
2014-08-14 04:43:39 PM
Used to pick this sucker up far, far away from.....The Motor Cityyyyyyyyyy!

www.thebig8.net

/Just over the border with lots of watts!
//Remember Mom listening to the school closings...until she realized we were more than 500 miles from Ypsilanti Junior High.
 
2014-08-14 04:43:54 PM
growing up i loved AM radio. It was the only way I could get to hear the Reds games at night in the Washington DC area. but it did screw me up one school morning as the next morning I woke up and heard school were closed due to snow....in Ohio not Virginia,
 
2014-08-14 04:45:53 PM
Thanks Godd they're keeping 1110 KDIS Los Angeles

I listen to it twice a day, on the way to work and on the way home.

It's either that or (R)etard (R)adio
 
2014-08-14 05:01:40 PM

Theaetetus: enry: Gads. Who would play music over AM?
Someone with a digital AM transmitter?
AM IBOC sounds as good as analog FM.


And who do you know has an AM IBOC receiver?  I certainly don't...and I was in the biz for many years.   I do have an HD FM radio, but only because it was given to me.

/IBOC sucks... we should have gone DAB like everyone else in the world did.

Also, WTF was Disney thinking with Radio Disney?   Did it ever get any ratings?  It always sounded like the same drivel and music the local Top 40 stations play...but on AM.
 
2014-08-14 05:19:33 PM

bhcompy: HD radio has filled that niche. The problem is that most people don't have HD radio.


What's even stupider, I have yet to see a factory-installed car audio system that supports HD radio. Is there some patent holder who wants too much money, or are they getting kickbacks from the Sirius/XM folks? (Why not both?)
 
2014-08-14 05:38:08 PM

lordargent: Kids,

AM stands for, Ante Meridiem (latin for 'before noon').

Meaning that Disney had a crapload of morning cartoon stations.


you're bad people.
I like your style
 
2014-08-14 05:38:36 PM

Fubegra: bhcompy: HD radio has filled that niche. The problem is that most people don't have HD radio.

What's even stupider, I have yet to see a factory-installed car audio system that supports HD radio. Is there some patent holder who wants too much money, or are they getting kickbacks from the Sirius/XM folks? (Why not both?)


Ford has it, at least in the Edge.
 
2014-08-14 05:51:51 PM

Fubegra: bhcompy: HD radio has filled that niche. The problem is that most people don't have HD radio.

What's even stupider, I have yet to see a factory-installed car audio system that supports HD radio. Is there some patent holder who wants too much money, or are they getting kickbacks from the Sirius/XM folks? (Why not both?)


Ibiquity is the company that owns the HD Radio patents. They charge a licensing fee to each station that wants to run HD Radio. I've been told the fee's so high, it only allows the bigger groups (i.e. Clear Channel and CBS, who each own a stake in Ibiquity) to run the system.

Also, Sirius and XM got a foothold with the consumer electronics industry five years before HD Radio did.
 
2014-08-14 05:55:11 PM

enry: Gads. Who would play music over AM?

/Sirius FTW
//but daughter listens to Kids Place Live


Yep, the only time I listen to terrestrial radio anymore is when the satellite is blocked and I end up receiving the repeater signal.
 
2014-08-14 06:08:15 PM
Funny, i work in the building of the one station they're keeping.
 
2014-08-14 06:09:04 PM

Fubegra: bhcompy: HD radio has filled that niche. The problem is that most people don't have HD radio.

What's even stupider, I have yet to see a factory-installed car audio system that supports HD radio. Is there some patent holder who wants too much money, or are they getting kickbacks from the Sirius/XM folks? (Why not both?)


My '14 Mazda 3 hatch has HD radio, AND SirusXM.  Of course, the antenna sucks so the HD radio only comes in when I have a direct sight of Manhattan, and even then it's not that great sounding.

Realistically, the HD radio gets the news/weather/traffic station in FM quality audio.  Ever hear a teletype in FM-quality audio?  i think the only reason why they even patch that noise in anymore is so that the announcers don't sound so dry...

/Yes, teletype.
//WINS 1010am...
 
2014-08-14 06:36:48 PM

Fubegra: bhcompy: HD radio has filled that niche. The problem is that most people don't have HD radio.

What's even stupider, I have yet to see a factory-installed car audio system that supports HD radio. Is there some patent holder who wants too much money, or are they getting kickbacks from the Sirius/XM folks? (Why not both?)


My wife's Chevy Traverse has it. I'm not impressed. It sounds glitchy and skippy, like a scratched CD or something. It'll jump back and forth by like a half a second or so, several times within any one song. We're about 40-50 miles north of the actual center of Dallas, no idea how far we are from that station's tower, so that may be part of it. Also, I can see that there are sub-stations, like the station I put it on whenever I'm in there has a highlighted "1" and a not-highlighted "2", but I can't for the life of me figure out how to change over to the "2" version. The OTA album art for whatever song is currently playing is a nice touch (when it works and isn't just showing the station logo), but it's hardly something I can't live without.
 
2014-08-14 06:48:07 PM
~Radio, what's new
Disney still loves you~
 
2014-08-14 07:07:47 PM

the cake is a pie: My wife's Chevy Traverse has it. I'm not impressed. It sounds glitchy and skippy, like a scratched CD or something.


My dad has an aftermarket system in his truck that has HD, and (~30 miles from downtown Chicago) it sounds nice and clear, but it will sometimes cut out. It works much better with the tuner that he has hooked to a component stereo. Overall, nice idea, but they could have done better.
 
2014-08-14 08:57:10 PM
This tweet came from a competing radio CEO:

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Couldn't have said it any better.
 
2014-08-14 09:33:17 PM
Anno Mundi
 
2014-08-14 09:43:18 PM

The Bestest: The universe is laughing behind your back: Well, it was worth a shot. You can probably buy an AM radio station for small money, and they reach a whole metro areas with not much transmitter power. Kids young enough to listen to Radio Disney probably wouldn't care about the sound quality. It's no worse than listening to an iPhone's internal speaker.....

I think it did well enough. The issue wasn't AM vs FM, the issue is that -no one- really listens to OTA radio anymore.


You're talking out of your ass.
 
2014-08-14 09:48:11 PM

mcreadyblue: Radio is dead.


Only, the opposite of that. Over 90% of Americans listen to the radio at least part of the week.
 
2014-08-14 10:19:05 PM

meanmutton: mcreadyblue: Radio is dead.

Only, the opposite of that. Over 90% of Americans listen to the radio at least part of the week.




I don't know a single person under the age of 18 that listens to the radio*. I can't even name a radio station that plays One Direction or Avicii.

*except when they are driving in their parents car
 
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