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2014-08-14 11:20:16 AM  
America really needs to grow the hell up. Find the best countries at what they do and emulate them.

Who are the best drinkers? Germany. Why?

Underage drinking in private is not regulated by a specific legal restriction. However, protection from physical and mental harm is part of parents' general obligation to care for a child.[1] Regarding alcohol purchase and alcohol consumption in public places (such as pubs and restaurants), Germany has three drinking ages regulated by § 9 Jugendschutzgesetz[2] (Protection of Young Persons Act):

At 14 - minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine, as long as they are in the company by a Custodial Person. (§ 9 JuSchG (2) Sub-Clause 1, No. 2)
At 16 - minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine without their parents or a legal guardian. (§ 9 JuSchG (1) 2.)
At 18 - having become adults, people are allowed access to brandy or brandy-containing drinks or food products with brandy above negligible level. (§ 9 JuSchG (1) 1.)

Because of moral panic involving alcohol abuse among minors (a 16-year-old boy died after having consumed 45 shots of tequila in a bar in early 2007[3](3), some people demanded that the drinking age be raised. Most politicians, however, spoke against that notion, pointing out instead that such abuse already was forbidden according to current laws, which simply needed to be enforced.[4] In Germany and the rest of Europe, alcohol consumption by adolescents is traditional and generally accepted.


That's why. Teens gonna drink. You can forbid it but it will happen anyway, making them into binge drinkers and criminals, or you can accept it and make them into responsible drunks.

The choice is yours.
 
2014-08-14 01:35:04 PM  
At least she didn't try to Fark them.


/whiskey dick.
 
2014-08-14 01:38:15 PM  
If the TV show "Cougar Town" goes back into production....wait, I think it has.
 
2014-08-14 01:38:19 PM  

doglover: America really needs to grow the hell up. Find the best countries at what they do and emulate them.

Who are the best drinkers? Germany. Why?

Underage drinking in private is not regulated by a specific legal restriction. However, protection from physical and mental harm is part of parents' general obligation to care for a child.[1] Regarding alcohol purchase and alcohol consumption in public places (such as pubs and restaurants), Germany has three drinking ages regulated by § 9 Jugendschutzgesetz[2] (Protection of Young Persons Act):

At 14 - minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine, as long as they are in the company by a Custodial Person. (§ 9 JuSchG (2) Sub-Clause 1, No. 2)
At 16 - minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine without their parents or a legal guardian. (§ 9 JuSchG (1) 2.)
At 18 - having become adults, people are allowed access to brandy or brandy-containing drinks or food products with brandy above negligible level. (§ 9 JuSchG (1) 1.)

Because of moral panic involving alcohol abuse among minors (a 16-year-old boy died after having consumed 45 shots of tequila in a bar in early 2007[3](3), some people demanded that the drinking age be raised. Most politicians, however, spoke against that notion, pointing out instead that such abuse already was forbidden according to current laws, which simply needed to be enforced.[4] In Germany and the rest of Europe, alcohol consumption by adolescents is traditional and generally accepted.


That's why. Teens gonna drink. You can forbid it but it will happen anyway, making them into binge drinkers and criminals, or you can accept it and make them into responsible drunks.

The choice is yours.


But think of the children, doglover. The precious, impressionable children that need to be protected. From everything. Ever.

I, for one, think that you should be over 21 in order to purchase peanuts because they are dangerous.
 
2014-08-14 01:40:28 PM  
that mugshot tho
 
2014-08-14 01:40:47 PM  
Especially if your Anon outing another Anon...
 
2014-08-14 01:41:36 PM  
When I was sixteen, I didn't really have many friends my own age. I hung out with a crowd I met by being involved with bicycle racing, and I was pretty much treated like an adult. I went to their parties, and drank beer just like everyone else, even to the point of drinking too much and getting sick once. It was no big deal, but that was over thirty years ago. Times have really changed, but I'm not convinced that all of this precious snowflake business is really for the better.
 
2014-08-14 01:43:13 PM  
I will never understand the way 25+ year old adults use facebook. It's like they were just freed from the shackles of telegraphs and smoke signals. I'll give younger people some slack because they're still morons. But shiat!
 
2014-08-14 01:43:17 PM  

ChipNASA: At least she didn't try to Fark them.


/whiskey dick.


You'd drink too if you had a frowny face permanently wrinkled into your face.  Damn.
 
2014-08-14 01:43:31 PM  
One time, my dad gave me a sip of beer when I was 10. Then 7 or 8 years later I smoked pot. Then I died of marihuana intoxication.

My parents should obviously be shot.
 
2014-08-14 01:44:26 PM  

JamesBCrazy: that mugshot tho


That's what you call a swamp donkey.
 
2014-08-14 01:48:36 PM  
I think I've seen this porn before...
 
2014-08-14 01:49:09 PM  
She was just trying to protect the kids from her ugliness my intoxicating them.

She's actually a selfless hero.
 
2014-08-14 01:50:17 PM  

Repo Man: When I was sixteen, I didn't really have many friends my own age. I hung out with a crowd I met by being involved with bicycle racing, and I was pretty much treated like an adult. I went to their parties, and drank beer just like everyone else, even to the point of drinking too much and getting sick once. It was no big deal, but that was over thirty years ago. Times have really changed, but I'm not convinced that all of this precious snowflake business is really for the better.


Were you trying to impress a gorgeous college girl by pretending to be an Italian exchange student, too? I think I know you:

blog.whatmovieshouldiwatchtonight.com

/totally understand what you mean
//hung with older brother's friends a lot myself
 
2014-08-14 01:54:57 PM  
"Ramos is a family friend and has known the teens for about seven years, the affidavit stated."

There's more to this story. I'm guessing an affair was involved at some point. You don't involve the police with n issue with a friend as a first resort.
 
2014-08-14 01:56:51 PM  

megarian: One time, my dad gave me a sip of beer when I was 10. Then 7 or 8 years later I smoked pot. Then I died of marihuana intoxication.

My parents should obviously be shot.


Well, I think you're exaggerating, but okay, what's their address?
 
2014-08-14 01:59:16 PM  
I am almost 40 and when I am out and see a group of teenagers they usually just irritate the crap outta me. For the life of me I cant see why one would want to hang out with them.

/off my lawn!
 
2014-08-14 02:00:46 PM  

crozzo: megarian: One time, my dad gave me a sip of beer when I was 10. Then 7 or 8 years later I smoked pot. Then I died of marihuana intoxication.

My parents should obviously be shot.

Well, I think you're exaggerating, but okay, what's their address?


They're in jail because one time my dad had one beer and drove with my sister in the car and everyone was fine and got o their destination.
 
2014-08-14 02:01:51 PM  
I'm certainly on board with doing this with your own older kids, as they will do it elsewhere.  Better to have them safe at home rather than driving around, which they will do also.  The key here is your kids, not the neighbor's.
 
2014-08-14 02:07:21 PM  
Bexar, (pronounced "Bear"), County.

Where's the hero tag?
 
2014-08-14 02:08:30 PM  

gregory311: Repo Man: When I was sixteen, I didn't really have many friends my own age. I hung out with a crowd I met by being involved with bicycle racing, and I was pretty much treated like an adult. I went to their parties, and drank beer just like everyone else, even to the point of drinking too much and getting sick once. It was no big deal, but that was over thirty years ago. Times have really changed, but I'm not convinced that all of this precious snowflake business is really for the better.

Were you trying to impress a gorgeous college girl by pretending to be an Italian exchange student, too? I think I know you:

[blog.whatmovieshouldiwatchtonight.com image 414x234]

/totally understand what you mean
//hung with older brother's friends a lot myself


What's more, one of the guys in this group was in his mid twenties, and his girlfriend was a senior in high school. No one cared.
 
2014-08-14 02:12:12 PM  

doglover: America really needs to grow the hell up. Find the best countries at what they do and emulate them.

Who are the best drinkers? Germany. Why?

Underage drinking in private is not regulated by a specific legal restriction. However, protection from physical and mental harm is part of parents' general obligation to care for a child.[1] Regarding alcohol purchase and alcohol consumption in public places (such as pubs and restaurants), Germany has three drinking ages regulated by § 9 Jugendschutzgesetz[2] (Protection of Young Persons Act):

At 14 - minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine, as long as they are in the company by a Custodial Person. (§ 9 JuSchG (2) Sub-Clause 1, No. 2)
At 16 - minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine without their parents or a legal guardian. (§ 9 JuSchG (1) 2.)
At 18 - having become adults, people are allowed access to brandy or brandy-containing drinks or food products with brandy above negligible level. (§ 9 JuSchG (1) 1.)

Because of moral panic involving alcohol abuse among minors (a 16-year-old boy died after having consumed 45 shots of tequila in a bar in early 2007[3](3), some people demanded that the drinking age be raised. Most politicians, however, spoke against that notion, pointing out instead that such abuse already was forbidden according to current laws, which simply needed to be enforced.[4] In Germany and the rest of Europe, alcohol consumption by adolescents is traditional and generally accepted.


That's why. Teens gonna drink. You can forbid it but it will happen anyway, making them into binge drinkers and criminals, or you can accept it and make them into responsible drunks.

The choice is yours.


This is where your post fails, this was not their guardian. The woman in TFA allowed them to get blackout drunk. You make some valid points but they do not apply here.
 
2014-08-14 02:12:17 PM  
Repo Man:  but I'm not convinced that all of this precious snowflake business is really for the better.

I'm convinced it's for the worse.
 
2014-08-14 02:14:15 PM  

Gonz: "Ramos is a family friend and has known the teens for about seven years, the affidavit stated."

There's more to this story. I'm guessing an affair was involved at some point. You don't involve the police with n issue with a friend as a first resort.


If my "friend" got my kids blackout drunk, posted video of them on facebook and then, in response to my confronting them said, "it's better that they do it here than somewhere else" I absolutely would call the police. That is my decision to make as a parent, not someone else's.
 
2014-08-14 02:16:01 PM  

Repo Man: When I was sixteen, I didn't really have many friends my own age. I hung out with a crowd I met by being involved with bicycle racing, and I was pretty much treated like an adult. I went to their parties, and drank beer just like everyone else, even to the point of drinking too much and getting sick once. It was no big deal, but that was over thirty years ago. Times have really changed, but I'm not convinced that all of this precious snowflake business is really for the better.


Times haven't changed, it's  the people who have turned into sniveling twats.
 
2014-08-14 02:17:19 PM  

megarian: crozzo: megarian: One time, my dad gave me a sip of beer when I was 10. Then 7 or 8 years later I smoked pot. Then I died of marihuana intoxication.

My parents should obviously be shot.

Well, I think you're exaggerating, but okay, what's their address?

They're in jail because one time my dad had one beer and drove with my sister in the car and everyone was fine and got o their destination.


Hmm. So the system works. Bit it's a little tough to shoot someone when they're in jail. How long till they come up for parole? I mean, I got bills, you know.
 
2014-08-14 02:18:27 PM  
img.youtube.com
 
2014-08-14 02:20:52 PM  
At least she wasn't sending Facebook invites to download some crappy Facebook game.
 
2014-08-14 02:20:54 PM  

jst3p: If my "friend" got my kids blackout drunk, posted video of them on facebook and then, in response to my confronting them said, "it's better that they do it here than somewhere else" I absolutely would call the police.


We're not talking about an acquaintance here. Someone you've known for that long, you wouldn't go with "take that crap off Facebook, and don't ever give my kids a drop of booze again"? You'd go to the police?

Remind me to not be your friend in real life. Not that I'd give your kids booze, but you've got a serious stick up your ass. Bad influence on my kids.
 
2014-08-14 02:21:06 PM  
Between '76 and '79, my Mom pretty much tacitly allowed me and my friends to smoke weed in my bedroom, playing backgammon and solving the world's problems.

Mom was cool, in that way.  Better than to have seen us handcuffed, I surmise.

We didn't drink often, in spite of the fact that I started tending bar for Steak 'n Ale at the age of 16.  By the time I graduated high school, I was the bar manager.  We had the access to everything,but we didn't use everything.  On occasion, LSD, cocaine and 'shrooms came into the picture.  They just didn't stay.

Someone upthread was right - kids are gonna do what they do.  Placing a taboo, (Zero Tolerance ZOMG!!!), on everything is a lazy, unimaginative response to something that shouldn't even be a problem to begin with.  Hell, it actually reinforces and rewards "getting away with something" that teens thrive on and thirst for.

Make it legal, and not a big deal, and you won't have made it a problem.
 
2014-08-14 02:22:29 PM  

groppet: I am almost 40 and when I am out and see a group of teenagers they usually just irritate the crap outta me. For the life of me I cant see why one would want to hang out with them.

/off my lawn!


I'm somewhat older than 40 and have to ensure my son's group of teenage friends on occasion. It's all I can do NOT to grab a rolled-up newspaper & start slapping the piss out of the dullards.

/I miss Red Foreman
 
2014-08-14 02:22:41 PM  

crozzo: megarian: crozzo: megarian: One time, my dad gave me a sip of beer when I was 10. Then 7 or 8 years later I smoked pot. Then I died of marihuana intoxication.

My parents should obviously be shot.

Well, I think you're exaggerating, but okay, what's their address?

They're in jail because one time my dad had one beer and drove with my sister in the car and everyone was fine and got o their destination.

Hmm. So the system works. Bit it's a little tough to shoot someone when they're in jail. How long till they come up for parole? I mean, I got bills, you know.


2032!

I'll probably be on heroin by then.
 
2014-08-14 02:23:36 PM  

Gary-L: Repo Man: When I was sixteen, I didn't really have many friends my own age. I hung out with a crowd I met by being involved with bicycle racing, and I was pretty much treated like an adult. I went to their parties, and drank beer just like everyone else, even to the point of drinking too much and getting sick once. It was no big deal, but that was over thirty years ago. Times have really changed, but I'm not convinced that all of this precious snowflake business is really for the better.

Times haven't changed, it's  the people who have turned into sniveling twats.


True, but don't the people make the times?
 
2014-08-14 02:24:54 PM  

Gonz: jst3p: If my "friend" got my kids blackout drunk, posted video of them on facebook and then, in response to my confronting them said, "it's better that they do it here than somewhere else" I absolutely would call the police.

We're not talking about an acquaintance here. Someone you've known for that long, you wouldn't go with "take that crap off Facebook, and don't ever give my kids a drop of booze again"? You'd go to the police?

Remind me to not be your friend in real life. Not that I'd give your kids booze, but you've got a serious stick up your ass. Bad influence on my kids.


This. Not that I was ever under the impression that jst had friends.
 
2014-08-14 02:30:50 PM  

Gonz: jst3p: If my "friend" got my kids blackout drunk, posted video of them on facebook and then, in response to my confronting them said, "it's better that they do it here than somewhere else" I absolutely would call the police.

We're not talking about an acquaintance here. Someone you've known for that long, you wouldn't go with "take that crap off Facebook, and don't ever give my kids a drop of booze again"? You'd go to the police?

Remind me to not be your friend in real life. Not that I'd give your kids booze, but you've got a serious stick up your ass. Bad influence on my kids.


Re-read my post with some comprehension. I would go to the police if confronting them didn't get results better than "piss off", which seems to be the case here.

mooseyfate: This. Not that I was ever under the impression that jst had friends.


You are probably right that you and I wouldn't get along too well, I don't suffer fools gladly. But your concern is touching.
 
2014-08-14 02:35:45 PM  

jst3p: Re-read my post with some comprehension.


Gonz: you've got a serious stick up your ass.


I'm not really seeing a compelling reason to change my original impression here.
 
2014-08-14 02:38:42 PM  

jst3p: Gonz: jst3p: If my "friend" got my kids blackout drunk, posted video of them on facebook and then, in response to my confronting them said, "it's better that they do it here than somewhere else" I absolutely would call the police.

We're not talking about an acquaintance here. Someone you've known for that long, you wouldn't go with "take that crap off Facebook, and don't ever give my kids a drop of booze again"? You'd go to the police?

Remind me to not be your friend in real life. Not that I'd give your kids booze, but you've got a serious stick up your ass. Bad influence on my kids.

Re-read my post with some comprehension. I would go to the police if confronting them didn't get results better than "piss off", which seems to be the case here.

mooseyfate: This. Not that I was ever under the impression that jst had friends.

You are probably right that you and I wouldn't get along too well, I don't suffer fools gladly. But your concern is touching.


I'm a fool because you're an asshole to your hypothetical friends?
 
2014-08-14 02:39:21 PM  
A long, long time ago, in a country far, far away, I was still married to my ex and she worked for the Child Welfare services there.

There was a complaint that a certain middle aged female, who had a reputation about her reputation on the street was entertaining teenaged boys at her home. Basically she was just letting them hang out and smoke and drink beer if they wanted to.

Anyway, the complaint had to be investigated and the priceless comment from her to the social worker was, "They probably just like to hang out here because they get something here that they don't get at home."

Yeah right lady!!
 
2014-08-14 02:40:31 PM  

Gonz: jst3p: Re-read my post with some comprehension.

Gonz: you've got a serious stick up your ass.

I'm not really seeing a compelling reason to change my original impression here.


But comprehension! Quit taking the wind out of his sails, he's trying to condescend to you for calling it correctly.
 
2014-08-14 02:42:35 PM  

Gonz: jst3p: Re-read my post with some comprehension.

Gonz: you've got a serious stick up your ass.

I'm not really seeing a compelling reason to change my original impression here.


First of all giving someone else's teens alcohol without their permission is a serious breech of parental etiquette. I would never do that to strangers, much less friends. Then to get them  blackout drunk? Serious dick move. Finally, when confronted about it being told that they didn't do anything wrong? I probably wouldn't be friends in the first place with someone that had that little common sense but if I were and this chain of events happened I think calling the police is an over the top response.

I am fine with giving teens access to alcohol in limited and responsible settings, this isn't what happened here.
 
2014-08-14 02:44:00 PM  

jst3p: Gonz: jst3p: Re-read my post with some comprehension.

Gonz: you've got a serious stick up your ass.

I'm not really seeing a compelling reason to change my original impression here.

First of all giving someone else's teens alcohol without their permission is a serious breech of parental etiquette. I would never do that to strangers, much less friends. Then to get them  blackout drunk? Serious dick move. Finally, when confronted about it being told that they didn't do anything wrong? I probably wouldn't be friends in the first place with someone that had that little common sense but if I were and this chain of events happened I  don'tthink calling the police is an over the top response.

I am fine with giving teens access to alcohol in limited and responsible settings, this isn't what happened here.

 
2014-08-14 04:40:13 PM  
From the age of 16 on my father always offered my high school friends a beer when they came over. This was the 1980's in Wisconsin. Just a single beer, and he expected you to sit down and join the conversation until it was finished. My friends tended to visit a lot, and we were introduced to responsible, social alcohol consumption. Sure seemed better/healthier than the cheerleaders who were regularly throwing up vodak in backseats.

At 17 I got caught in a liquor store sting. The cops called my father and told him I had been caught trying to buy beer underage. His response, "It's ok, he has my permission." Cops let me go without a citation.

I loved my dad.
/end CSB
 
2014-08-14 06:49:27 PM  

doglover: America really needs to grow the hell up. Find the best countries at what they do and emulate them.

Who are the best drinkers? Germany. Why?

Underage drinking in private is not regulated by a specific legal restriction. However, protection from physical and mental harm is part of parents' general obligation to care for a child.[1] Regarding alcohol purchase and alcohol consumption in public places (such as pubs and restaurants), Germany has three drinking ages regulated by § 9 Jugendschutzgesetz[2] (Protection of Young Persons Act):

At 14 - minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine, as long as they are in the company by a Custodial Person. (§ 9 JuSchG (2) Sub-Clause 1, No. 2)
At 16 - minors are allowed to consume and possess undistilled (fermented) alcoholic beverages, such as beer and wine without their parents or a legal guardian. (§ 9 JuSchG (1) 2.)
At 18 - having become adults, people are allowed access to brandy or brandy-containing drinks or food products with brandy above negligible level. (§ 9 JuSchG (1) 1.)

Because of moral panic involving alcohol abuse among minors (a 16-year-old boy died after having consumed 45 shots of tequila in a bar in early 2007[3](3), some people demanded that the drinking age be raised. Most politicians, however, spoke against that notion, pointing out instead that such abuse already was forbidden according to current laws, which simply needed to be enforced.[4] In Germany and the rest of Europe, alcohol consumption by adolescents is traditional and generally accepted.


That's why. Teens gonna drink. You can forbid it but it will happen anyway, making them into binge drinkers and criminals, or you can accept it and make them into responsible drunks.

The choice is yours.


I'm with you man, why have laws people are just going to break them anyway. Oh yeah and Germany might not be the best example for you.
 
2014-08-14 09:46:15 PM  
Which class does she teach?
 
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