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2014-08-14 08:46:39 AM  
"I know I sound like an old crank," Vitagliano said, "But when kids grow up being fed lies, why should we surprised if they believe lies? "

Isn't that the AFA's whole business model?
 
2014-08-14 09:04:39 AM  
Occult?
 
2014-08-14 09:11:35 AM  
The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.
 
2014-08-14 09:35:41 AM  
Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?
 
2014-08-14 09:36:12 AM  

Diogenes: The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.


STOP OPPRESSING ME!
 
2014-08-14 09:36:57 AM  

Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?


I know you're probably trolling, but I feel like saying it anyway:

Equality is not an agenda.
 
2014-08-14 09:43:46 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?

I know you're probably trolling, but I feel like saying it anyway:

Equality is not an agenda.


Be decent to those not like you = Communism

Archie should have grabbed the gun and shot Keller himself.
 
2014-08-14 09:49:45 AM  

DeaH: Occult?


Oh, they make us go through this whole thing where we put on robes and pledge our souls to The Dark Lord before they let us have the buttsecks.  But really, it's largely ceremonial.
 
2014-08-14 10:00:35 AM  
comicsmedia.ign.com

That skull is definitely an occult symbol
 
2014-08-14 10:06:56 AM  
Great.
Now my Ouija board is telling me to blow the mailman.
Thanks, Archie.
 
2014-08-14 10:11:51 AM  
How are they promoting it?

Are there ads like "Learn How To Become Gay" next to the X-ray glasses on the back?
 
2014-08-14 10:15:04 AM  
Who can forget that one comic where Morgan Le Fay and Merlin had an orgy with Archie and the gang?  That's where Jughead learned the Charm of Making!
 
2014-08-14 10:30:22 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: How are they promoting it?

Are there ads like "Learn How To Become Gay" next to the X-ray glasses on the back?


actually it's next to the ad for Superman knee pads
 
2014-08-14 10:52:22 AM  
Everything's Archie!
 
2014-08-14 10:53:51 AM  
Stuck up Riverdale punks!  Think they're too good for me!
 
2014-08-14 10:57:04 AM  
By the way, I take a particular interest in this story because I collect old bubblegum records - the Archies, the 1910 Fruitgum Company, Josie and the Pussycats; that sort of thing. If these knuckleheads think the Archies are gay and satanic, the Banana Splits would make their brains melt.
 
2014-08-14 11:01:13 AM  
♫ I'm, the, occult, of, homo, sexu, al, ity
I am the occult of
I am the occult of
I am the occult of
I am the occult of
I am the occult of
I am the occult of
I am the occult of
I am the occult of
Homosexuality!!! ♫

* out of breath *
 
2014-08-14 11:01:28 AM  
Has anyone else rubbed one out to Betty and/or Veronica?
 
2014-08-14 11:02:01 AM  
It's Archie comics. If your child is reading Archie comics in 2014, then he must be locked in his grandpa's attic.
 
2014-08-14 11:02:44 AM  
Jughead's ears are handles.
 
2014-08-14 11:05:11 AM  

Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?


You're not wrong.
 
2014-08-14 11:06:15 AM  

Muta: Has anyone else rubbed one out to Betty and/or Veronica?


Has anyone not?
 
2014-08-14 11:07:34 AM  
"I know I sound like an old crank," Vitagliano said, "But when kids grow up being fed lies, why should we surprised if they believe lies? "

He continued, "These kids grew up watching their parents laugh at 'Will & Grace,' which changed people's opinions, and now the kids don't have a problem with it."


How horrible, the kids are becoming more tolerant of others!
 
2014-08-14 11:09:33 AM  

Lackofname: It's Archie comics. If your child is reading Archie comics in 2014, then he must be locked in his grandpa's attic.


Came in to say something similar.  I read them back when I was a kid and thought they were old then.  I'm 46.
 
2014-08-14 11:09:36 AM  
 img.fark.net
 
2014-08-14 11:10:51 AM  

Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?


It doesn't have to be. When you write, draw, ink, and print your comic, it can be any way you want it to be.
 
2014-08-14 11:11:06 AM  

Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything  used to push anmy agenda?


FTFY
 
2014-08-14 11:13:04 AM  

Muta: Has anyone else rubbed one out to Betty and/or Veronica?


Just one? Not me.

I am always fascinated by Archie comics. They are light-hearted stories set in a "we should go back to a time that never existed vibe" and based around strong morale values. It looks like the kind of thing conservative parents would give kids to keep them away from the corrupt rest of the world. The reason it all works, however, is those strong values include forgiveness and charity to those who have made mistakes or don't have the same advantage, and everyone is valued and deserves an equal place at the table no matter their race, religion, orientation, ability, hamburger addiction etc. That the "values" groups lose their shiat over those ideas has always amused me.
 
2014-08-14 11:16:34 AM  

InmanRoshi: [img.fark.net image 350x150]


What's a nubian?
 
2014-08-14 11:16:37 AM  

jso2897: Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?

It doesn't have to be. When you write, draw, ink, and print your comic, it can be any way you want it to be.


Forget it. He's just a tracer.

i1289.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-14 11:17:14 AM  

DeaH: Occult?


duh.  There's a coven of witches in the next town over.

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-08-14 11:17:17 AM  

Diogenes: The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.


Apparently it's OK to boycott big businesses for daring to acknowledge that gay people exist, but it's not OK to boycott small business owners for discriminating against gay people. Because big businesses can take it because they're big, while the poor, downtrodden small business owners will be forced to go out of business and live on the street. Or something.
 
2014-08-14 11:19:37 AM  
Seriously, could Dilton Doiley be more twink?
 
2014-08-14 11:24:02 AM  

Muta: Has anyone else rubbed one out to Betty and/or Veronica?


Two girls, One Jug(head)
 
2014-08-14 11:28:22 AM  

RedPhoenix122: "I know I sound like an old crank," Vitagliano said, "But when kids grow up being fed lies, why should we surprised if they believe lies? "

Isn't that the AFA's whole business model?


I'm surprised that they don't see the irony.

Reminds me of this conversation I heard some of my co-workers having. One guy is a dad of 2 little kids and very, very Christiany who is telling the lady next to me about maybe possibly the kids figuring out the truth about Santa Claus. He says, "what if they start questioning if other things aren't real, like the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy?" It took all the reserve in my arsenal to keep from blurting out "....or Jesus?" Cool story, brah.

I mean, how do these people just not see the irony?

I grew up with supposedly Christian adults telling me that rock music was from the devil and if you played records backward and that that an upside down peace sign was actually a cross upside down(!) and these people earnestly believed these things and told these kinds of things to people and pass it off as truth who were young and impressionable to scare them, I guess? At least Archie comics is fiction. No one has ever tried to pass anything in Archie comics off as truth. (Or Harry Potter, or any of the other things these cranks like to complain about.)
 
2014-08-14 11:30:18 AM  

gnosis301: Who can forget that one comic where Morgan Le Fay and Merlin had an orgy with Archie and the gang?  That's where Jughead learned the Charm of Making!


Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha
 
2014-08-14 11:30:20 AM  

Needlessly Complicated: RedPhoenix122: "I know I sound like an old crank," Vitagliano said, "But when kids grow up being fed lies, why should we surprised if they believe lies? "

Isn't that the AFA's whole business model?

I'm surprised that they don't see the irony.

Reminds me of this conversation I heard some of my co-workers having. One guy is a dad of 2 little kids and very, very Christiany who is telling the lady next to me about maybe possibly the kids figuring out the truth about Santa Claus. He says, "what if they start questioning if other things aren't real, like the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy?" It took all the reserve in my arsenal to keep from blurting out "....or Jesus?" Cool story, brah.

I mean, how do these people just not see the irony?

I grew up with supposedly Christian adults telling me that rock music was from the devil and if you played records backward and that that an upside down peace sign was actually a cross upside down(!) and these people earnestly believed these things and told these kinds of things to people and pass it off as truth who were young and impressionable to scare them, I guess? At least Archie comics is fiction. No one has ever tried to pass anything in Archie comics off as truth. (Or Harry Potter, or any of the other things these cranks like to complain about.)


Shall we make a list?  I'll start.

Archie Comics
Harry Potter
Dungeons & Dragons.
 
2014-08-14 11:30:37 AM  
Nobody complains about monster hunter's pet pig even though that's promoting the handling of unclean animals.

And it lets you commit the abomination of eating shellfish(queen shrimp)

And dont get me started on the demon drugs....
 
2014-08-14 11:32:02 AM  

InmanRoshi:  [img.fark.net image 350x150]


Archie is not farking Mr. Wetherby! He's just asking for help with his farking homework!

/Read between the lines, biatch
 
2014-08-14 11:33:36 AM  

fiddlehead: Diogenes: The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.

Apparently it's OK to boycott big businesses for daring to acknowledge that gay people exist, but it's not OK to boycott small business owners for discriminating against gay people. Because big businesses can take it because they're big, while the poor, downtrodden small business owners will be forced to go out of business and live on the street. Or something.


It's not okay to boycott big businesses for discriminating against gay people, or at least for giving money for anti-gay legislation. Remember Chik-fil-A? No, the real test here, as it should be for all business decisions, is whether or not it's Christian. Not Christ-Chrisitan, mind you, American-Christian, which leaves out most of that pesky red letter part of the Bible.
 
2014-08-14 11:34:30 AM  

Needlessly Complicated: RedPhoenix122: "I know I sound like an old crank," Vitagliano said, "But when kids grow up being fed lies, why should we surprised if they believe lies? "

Isn't that the AFA's whole business model?

I'm surprised that they don't see the irony.

Reminds me of this conversation I heard some of my co-workers having. One guy is a dad of 2 little kids and very, very Christiany who is telling the lady next to me about maybe possibly the kids figuring out the truth about Santa Claus. He says, "what if they start questioning if other things aren't real, like the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy?" It took all the reserve in my arsenal to keep from blurting out "....or Jesus?" Cool story, brah.

I mean, how do these people just not see the irony?

I grew up with supposedly Christian adults telling me that rock music was from the devil and if you played records backward and that that an upside down peace sign was actually a cross upside down(!) and these people earnestly believed these things and told these kinds of things to people and pass it off as truth who were young and impressionable to scare them, I guess? At least Archie comics is fiction. No one has ever tried to pass anything in Archie comics off as truth. (Or Harry Potter, or any of the other things these cranks like to complain about.)


The annual Rock The Universe (aka Jesuspalooza) is coming up at Universal.  I always find that curious.  Jurassic Park, Harry Potter, Halloween Horror Nights...shouldn't they be offended?
 
2014-08-14 11:35:10 AM  

fiddlehead: Diogenes: The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.

Apparently it's OK to boycott big businesses for daring to acknowledge that gay people exist, but it's not OK to boycott small business owners for discriminating against gay people. Because big businesses can take it because they're big, while the poor, downtrodden small business owners will be forced to go out of business and live on the street. Or something.


I could see them using that angle.  Well done!
 
2014-08-14 11:35:35 AM  
Definitely pushing a homo agenda.......

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-14 11:40:20 AM  

Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: Muta: Has anyone else rubbed one out to Betty and/or Veronica?

Just one? Not me.

I am always fascinated by Archie comics. They are light-hearted stories set in a "we should go back to a time that never existed vibe" and based around strong morale values. It looks like the kind of thing conservative parents would give kids to keep them away from the corrupt rest of the world. The reason it all works, however, is those strong values include forgiveness and charity to those who have made mistakes or don't have the same advantage, and everyone is valued and deserves an equal place at the table no matter their race, religion, orientation, ability, hamburger addiction etc. That the "values" groups lose their shiat over those ideas has always amused me.


It's the old "Do as I say not as I do" dodge.  You'll rarely find the "values" groups actually going through with any of the tolerance and acceptance they preach non stop about, and that Archie comics stresses the importance of actually following the morals you teach probably makes their little heads pop like balloons.
 
2014-08-14 11:44:06 AM  

InmanRoshi:  [img.fark.net image 350x150]


Archie was the biatch and Jughead was the butch. That's why Jughead wears that crown-looking hat all the time. He's the king of Queen Archie's world.
 
2014-08-14 11:56:18 AM  

snowybunting: Definitely pushing a homo agenda.......

[img.fark.net image 424x403]


Glad that's taken care of. No mention of how the occult presence in their comics is over 50 years old? You know, that whole "Sabrina" character?
 
2014-08-14 11:57:22 AM  

Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?


Exactly.  Why we do have to have someone else's lifestyle pushed into our face?
 
2014-08-14 11:58:43 AM  

Crotchrocket Slim: Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything  used to push anmy agenda?

FTFY


What is her agenda?
 
2014-08-14 11:59:00 AM  

DeaH: fiddlehead: Diogenes: The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.

Apparently it's OK to boycott big businesses for daring to acknowledge that gay people exist, but it's not OK to boycott small business owners for discriminating against gay people. Because big businesses can take it because they're big, while the poor, downtrodden small business owners will be forced to go out of business and live on the street. Or something.

It's not okay to boycott big businesses for discriminating against gay people, or at least for giving money for anti-gay legislation. Remember Chik-fil-A? No, the real test here, as it should be for all business decisions, is whether or not it's Christian. Not Christ-Chrisitan, mind you, American-Christian, which leaves out most of that pesky red letter part of the Bible.


Good point! It's OK for Christians to use their moral code to boycott businesses, just like it's OK for Christians to use their moral code to discriminate against gay people!
 
2014-08-14 12:01:53 PM  

mistrmind: Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?

Exactly.  Why we do have to have someone else's lifestyle pushed into our face?


I hate it when those other lifestyles get pushed into my face, and leave a hot, thick load of tolerance all over me.
 
2014-08-14 12:08:28 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: mistrmind: Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?

Exactly.  Why we do have to have someone else's lifestyle pushed into our face?

I hate it when those other lifestyles get pushed into my face, and leave a hot, thick load of tolerance all over me.


Oh, I'm sorry.  I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong.  What was I thinking?
 
2014-08-14 12:12:10 PM  
"I know I sound like an old crank," Vitagliano said, "But when kids grow up being fed lies, why should we surprised if they believe lies? "

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-14 12:14:22 PM  

mistrmind: FirstNationalBastard: mistrmind: Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?

Exactly.  Why we do have to have someone else's lifestyle pushed into our face?

I hate it when those other lifestyles get pushed into my face, and leave a hot, thick load of tolerance all over me.

Oh, I'm sorry.  I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong.  What was I thinking?


Abhorrently wrong, like go to church? You just laugh behind their back and go on with your life.
 
2014-08-14 12:19:36 PM  

Cletus C.: mistrmind: FirstNationalBastard: mistrmind: Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?

Exactly.  Why we do have to have someone else's lifestyle pushed into our face?

I hate it when those other lifestyles get pushed into my face, and leave a hot, thick load of tolerance all over me.

Oh, I'm sorry.  I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong.  What was I thinking?

Abhorrently wrong, like go to church? You just laugh behind their back and go on with your life.


So you have a problem with church?   Oooooh you hater you!   Lets demonize you for not accepting my life choices!
 
2014-08-14 12:23:07 PM  

mistrmind: Oh, I'm sorry. I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong. What was I thinking?


a) You actually think what other people do in their bedrooms is your business somehow? Well maybe we'll outlaw what you do in your bedroom because we think it's "abhorrently wrong" for some made-up reasons, too. How does that sound? Freedom and liberty, indeed.

b) Accept someone? Who's asking for your acceptance? All I've seen asked is for people to stop passing laws making people second-class citizens based on their bedroom lives, of all things. Maybe we don't accept you, either. That also wouldn't matter. Just mind your own farking business and quit trying to make fellow citizens illegal for existing, how about that?
 
2014-08-14 12:28:10 PM  
Somebody complaining that comic books corrupt kids.

I must have time-traveled back to 1936 again.

THANKS OBAMA.

/*mumble* do this shiat all the time *mumble grumble*
 
2014-08-14 12:35:48 PM  

mistrmind: FirstNationalBastard: mistrmind: Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?

Exactly.  Why we do have to have someone else's lifestyle pushed into our face?

I hate it when those other lifestyles get pushed into my face, and leave a hot, thick load of tolerance all over me.

Oh, I'm sorry.  I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong.  What was I thinking?


It's funny that you think you get to decide "abhorrently wrong", especially when using a guide that says not to judge people.
 
2014-08-14 12:36:28 PM  

menschenfresser: mistrmind: Oh, I'm sorry. I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong. What was I thinking?

a) You actually think what other people do in their bedrooms is your business somehow? Well maybe we'll outlaw what you do in your bedroom because we think it's "abhorrently wrong" for some made-up reasons, too. How does that sound? Freedom and liberty, indeed.

b) Accept someone? Who's asking for your acceptance? All I've seen asked is for people to stop passing laws making people second-class citizens based on their bedroom lives, of all things. Maybe we don't accept you, either. That also wouldn't matter. Just mind your own farking business and quit trying to make fellow citizens illegal for existing, how about that?


Do you ever listen to yourself?  What people do in their bedrooms isn't anyone's business, including mine, but when said person decides to parade their antics in front of me and my children, then believe me I'll exercise my freedom of speech and thought.

As for acceptance, I believe all the fruit-loops that are pushing their agenda are the ones looking for acceptance.
 
2014-08-14 12:37:05 PM  

Joe USer: mistrmind: FirstNationalBastard: mistrmind: Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?

Exactly.  Why we do have to have someone else's lifestyle pushed into our face?

I hate it when those other lifestyles get pushed into my face, and leave a hot, thick load of tolerance all over me.

Oh, I'm sorry.  I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong.  What was I thinking?

It's funny that you think you get to decide "abhorrently wrong", especially when using a guide that says not to judge people.


And you decide what is right and wrong?
 
2014-08-14 12:47:26 PM  

mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: Oh, I'm sorry. I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong. What was I thinking?

a) You actually think what other people do in their bedrooms is your business somehow? Well maybe we'll outlaw what you do in your bedroom because we think it's "abhorrently wrong" for some made-up reasons, too. How does that sound? Freedom and liberty, indeed.

b) Accept someone? Who's asking for your acceptance? All I've seen asked is for people to stop passing laws making people second-class citizens based on their bedroom lives, of all things. Maybe we don't accept you, either. That also wouldn't matter. Just mind your own farking business and quit trying to make fellow citizens illegal for existing, how about that?

Do you ever listen to yourself?  What people do in their bedrooms isn't anyone's business, including mine, but when said person decides to parade their antics in front of me and my children, then believe me I'll exercise my freedom of speech and thought.

As for acceptance, I believe all the fruit-loops that are pushing their agenda are the ones looking for acceptance.


"Parade their antics"? You mean like how you kiss your female partner in public? How every tv show has men and women in various romantic situations? How it's absolutely everywhere? But it's totally different somehow when others do the same thing, and they're "parading their antics" but you aren't, even though you're all doing the same thing.

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.
 
2014-08-14 12:50:21 PM  

mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: Oh, I'm sorry. I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong. What was I thinking?

a) You actually think what other people do in their bedrooms is your business somehow? Well maybe we'll outlaw what you do in your bedroom because we think it's "abhorrently wrong" for some made-up reasons, too. How does that sound? Freedom and liberty, indeed.

b) Accept someone? Who's asking for your acceptance? All I've seen asked is for people to stop passing laws making people second-class citizens based on their bedroom lives, of all things. Maybe we don't accept you, either. That also wouldn't matter. Just mind your own farking business and quit trying to make fellow citizens illegal for existing, how about that?

Do you ever listen to yourself?  What people do in their bedrooms isn't anyone's business, including mine, but when said person decides to parade their antics in front of me and my children, then believe me I'll exercise my freedom of speech and thought.

As for acceptance, I believe all the fruit-loops that are pushing their agenda are the ones looking for acceptance.


Mr. Roper?
 
2014-08-14 12:58:54 PM  
menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.
 
2014-08-14 12:59:36 PM  

Cletus C.: mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: Oh, I'm sorry. I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong. What was I thinking?

a) You actually think what other people do in their bedrooms is your business somehow? Well maybe we'll outlaw what you do in your bedroom because we think it's "abhorrently wrong" for some made-up reasons, too. How does that sound? Freedom and liberty, indeed.

b) Accept someone? Who's asking for your acceptance? All I've seen asked is for people to stop passing laws making people second-class citizens based on their bedroom lives, of all things. Maybe we don't accept you, either. That also wouldn't matter. Just mind your own farking business and quit trying to make fellow citizens illegal for existing, how about that?

Do you ever listen to yourself?  What people do in their bedrooms isn't anyone's business, including mine, but when said person decides to parade their antics in front of me and my children, then believe me I'll exercise my freedom of speech and thought.

As for acceptance, I believe all the fruit-loops that are pushing their agenda are the ones looking for acceptance.

Mr. Roper?


Okay, I admit that made me laugh.
 
2014-08-14 01:00:54 PM  

mistrmind: Joe USer: mistrmind: FirstNationalBastard: mistrmind: Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?

Exactly.  Why we do have to have someone else's lifestyle pushed into our face?

I hate it when those other lifestyles get pushed into my face, and leave a hot, thick load of tolerance all over me.

Oh, I'm sorry.  I guess it's wrong of me to not accept someone for something that they do that is abhorrently wrong.  What was I thinking?

It's funny that you think you get to decide "abhorrently wrong", especially when using a guide that says not to judge people.

And you decide what is right and wrong?


Nope.

But I'm not against having people get together to define a neutral and open framework detailing what the government can and can't do and then using that framework to create laws that help decide when someone's actions harm society.
 
2014-08-14 01:02:21 PM  

mistrmind: menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.


You just don't want humans of the same gender to show any affection for one another in front of your children, like all other humans are allowed to do. But you totally don't think or teach that's it's bad.
 
2014-08-14 01:06:25 PM  

menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.

You just don't want humans of the same gender to show any affection for one another in front of your children, like all other humans are allowed to do. But you totally don't think or teach that's it's bad.


Correct.   So what?   Am I stopping you from shtupping someone of the same sex as you?
 
2014-08-14 01:08:44 PM  

Trance750: Why can't comics simply be comics. Why must everything be used to push an agenda?


know how i know you never read comics

or

notsureifserious.jpg

damn poe's law i really can't tell anymore
 
2014-08-14 01:10:12 PM  

DeaH: Occult?


Sabrina the Teenage witch lives in the Archie universe. She tried to bring Jughead's dead dog back to life but awakened Cthulu instead and became his bride.
 
2014-08-14 01:11:33 PM  
The Occult and Homosexuality?

Well shiat, the wife and I may just start reading Archie Comics now!
 
2014-08-14 01:11:37 PM  

mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.

You just don't want humans of the same gender to show any affection for one another in front of your children, like all other humans are allowed to do. But you totally don't think or teach that's it's bad.

Correct.   So what?   Am I stopping you from shtupping someone of the same sex as you?


Okay, well if that's fine then it should also be fine to remove from sight all romantic situations, public kisses, photos on desks, etc. of opposite-sex couples. That wouldn't stop you from shtupping someone of the opposite sex or anything so it'd be just fine with you, as you just said that's all that matters?
 
2014-08-14 01:11:42 PM  

mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.

You just don't want humans of the same gender to show any affection for one another in front of your children, like all other humans are allowed to do. But you totally don't think or teach that's it's bad.

Correct.   So what?   Am I stopping you from shtupping someone of the same sex as you?


Stopping, no, attempting to stop, yes.
 
2014-08-14 01:16:25 PM  

menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.

You just don't want humans of the same gender to show any affection for one another in front of your children, like all other humans are allowed to do. But you totally don't think or teach that's it's bad.

Correct.   So what?   Am I stopping you from shtupping someone of the same sex as you?

Okay, well if that's fine then it should also be fine to remove from sight all romantic situations, public kisses, photos on desks, etc. of opposite-sex couples. That wouldn't stop you from shtupping someone of the opposite sex or anything so it'd be just fine with you, as you just said that's all that matters?


I think you misunderstand.  Public kisses?  Fine, I can look away.  Photos on desk?  Don't care.   Having an agenda in my kids favorite comic books and or t.v. shows.  I have a problem with.  I also have a problem with schools pushing this propaganda on my children.   There is the disconnect we have.
 
2014-08-14 01:21:10 PM  

mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.

You just don't want humans of the same gender to show any affection for one another in front of your children, like all other humans are allowed to do. But you totally don't think or teach that's it's bad.

Correct.   So what?   Am I stopping you from shtupping someone of the same sex as you?

Okay, well if that's fine then it should also be fine to remove from sight all romantic situations, public kisses, photos on desks, etc. of opposite-sex couples. That wouldn't stop you from shtupping someone of the opposite sex or anything so it'd be just fine with you, as you just said that's all that matters?

I think you misunderstand.  Public kisses?  Fine, I can look away.  Photos on desk?  Don't care.   Having an agenda in my kids favorite comic books and or t.v. shows.  I have a problem with.  I also have a problem with schools pushing this propaganda on my children.   There is the disconnect we have.


Well then, question: What has been done that you consider "propaganda"? Is not treating gay characters on tv or in comics in a negative light considered propaganda by you? Do you think they have a nefarious agenda to recruit your children into the lifestyle or something? Also, do you think your children or anyone else could actually be "converted" to homosexuality as a result of any propaganda? Because the only way one of your children or anyone else is going to become gay is if they already are. Sexuality isn't something you decided by conscious choice, and it isn't for anyone else, either. Your brain is just how it is and that isn't affected by "propaganda."

Admit it, you just don't like it and don't want to have to see it anywhere, end of.
 
2014-08-14 01:22:43 PM  

mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.

You just don't want humans of the same gender to show any affection for one another in front of your children, like all other humans are allowed to do. But you totally don't think or teach that's it's bad.

Correct.   So what?   Am I stopping you from shtupping someone of the same sex as you?

Okay, well if that's fine then it should also be fine to remove from sight all romantic situations, public kisses, photos on desks, etc. of opposite-sex couples. That wouldn't stop you from shtupping someone of the opposite sex or anything so it'd be just fine with you, as you just said that's all that matters?

I think you misunderstand.  Public kisses?  Fine, I can look away.  Photos on desk?  Don't care.   Having an agenda in my kids favorite comic books and or t.v. shows.  I have a problem with.  I also have a problem with schools pushing this propaganda on my children.   There is the disconnect we have.


I think the problem is that no one really specifically defines this 'agenda' or 'propaganda'. If you could point out which parts you disagree with, then more people would be able to understand your views.
 
2014-08-14 01:23:09 PM  

mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.

You just don't want humans of the same gender to show any affection for one another in front of your children, like all other humans are allowed to do. But you totally don't think or teach that's it's bad.

Correct.   So what?   Am I stopping you from shtupping someone of the same sex as you?

Okay, well if that's fine then it should also be fine to remove from sight all romantic situations, public kisses, photos on desks, etc. of opposite-sex couples. That wouldn't stop you from shtupping someone of the opposite sex or anything so it'd be just fine with you, as you just said that's all that matters?

I think you misunderstand.  Public kisses?  Fine, I can look away.  Photos on desk?  Don't care.   Having an agenda in my kids favorite comic books and or t.v. shows.  I have a problem with.  I also have a problem with schools pushing this propaganda on my children.   There is the disconnect we have.


if archie comics are your kids' favorite comics you've got far bigger problems than a little gay agenda sneaking into thier realm of conciousnous; your kids are uber lame.
 
2014-08-14 01:24:13 PM  

DeaH: Occult?


Probably referring to the zombie apocalypse horror series, "Afterlife with Archie."

No, I'm not joking. It's real. I'm on my phone, otherwise I'd include a link.
 
2014-08-14 01:31:59 PM  
I want a series where Archie is a middle-aged detective with a bad knee and a sour outlook on life, always ready with a fist or a ready smile, and he has a buddy named Joe on the police force, but Joe's boss Mitchell hates Archie just because he hates everybody, and once in a while Archie's dad comes to town for a few weeks and sleeps on the couch, and also Archie is into a dark underground Goth S/M scene.
 
2014-08-14 01:37:26 PM  

mistrmind: Correct.   So what?   Am I stopping you from shtupping someone of the same sex as you?


No, but it seems like you're condemning my friends who want to hold hands and kiss and public and have public social celebrations of their relationships because of the implication that they're shtupping in a configuration  of which you don't approve.

And that's where I draw the line. Outside of politics, outside of morality, it's about assholes like you saying the people I care about don't deserve to be happy because their happiness offends you. And for that, and all the implications there of, you can farking bet I'll "bully" you, whether you're a small business owner, an executive officer of a corporation, or some asshole on the street.
 
2014-08-14 01:37:31 PM  

Kibbler: I want a series where Archie is a middle-aged detective with a bad knee and a sour outlook on life, always ready with a fist or a ready smile, and he has a buddy named Joe on the police force, but Joe's boss Mitchell hates Archie just because he hates everybody, and once in a while Archie's dad comes to town for a few weeks and sleeps on the couch, and also Archie is into a dark underground Goth S/M scene.


so you want alan moore and frank miller to double team an archie story arc?
 
2014-08-14 01:40:39 PM  

mistrmind: I think you misunderstand.  Public kisses?  Fine, I can look away.  Photos on desk?  Don't care.   Having an agenda in my kids favorite comic books and or t.v. shows.  I have a problem with.  I also have a problem with schools pushing this propaganda on my children.   There is the disconnect we have.


Guess what? All that propaganda and agenda amounts to "You're gonna have to deal with public kisses and photos on desks. These people exist. You won't get rid of them. You have to take your offense at their lifestyle and bottle it up until you can complain about it in church or on the Internet because your point of view is quickly becoming socially equivalent to explicit racism."

You don't want your kids to learn that gay people exist? Too farking bad, because they do and no mindless media blackout will change that. It'll just raise more sudden questions that you personally will have to uncomfortably answer while stewing in the fact that they're becoming more accepted while you're becoming more widely recognized as an old bigot.
 
2014-08-14 01:41:11 PM  

snowybunting: Definitely pushing a homo agenda.......

[img.fark.net image 424x403]


Not always.

i.imgbox.com
 
2014-08-14 01:41:41 PM  

ArkAngel: [comicsmedia.ign.com image 480x280]

That skull is definitely an occult symbol


Ha! I had that issue.
 
2014-08-14 01:41:47 PM  

i state your name: Kibbler: I want a series where Archie is a middle-aged detective with a bad knee and a sour outlook on life, always ready with a fist or a ready smile, and he has a buddy named Joe on the police force, but Joe's boss Mitchell hates Archie just because he hates everybody, and once in a while Archie's dad comes to town for a few weeks and sleeps on the couch, and also Archie is into a dark underground Goth S/M scene.

so you want alan moore and frank miller to double team an archie story arc?


oyster.ignimgs.com

I farking love that this is a variant.
 
2014-08-14 01:49:51 PM  

i state your name: mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.

You just don't want humans of the same gender to show any affection for one another in front of your children, like all other humans are allowed to do. But you totally don't think or teach that's it's bad.

Correct.   So what?   Am I stopping you from shtupping someone of the same sex as you?

Okay, well if that's fine then it should also be fine to remove from sight all romantic situations, public kisses, photos on desks, etc. of opposite-sex couples. That wouldn't stop you from shtupping someone of the opposite sex or anything so it'd be just fine with you, as you just said that's all that matters?

I think you misunderstand.  Public kisses?  Fine, I can look away.  Photos on desk?  Don't care.   Having an agenda in my kids favorite comic books and or t.v. shows.  I have a problem with.  I also have a problem with schools pushing this propaganda on my children.   There is the disconnect we have.

if archie comics are your kids' favorite comics you've got far bigger problems than a little gay agenda sneaking into thier realm of conciousnous; your kids are uber lame.


Lol, so much of this. Better reinforce the waistbands on your kids whitey-tighties, mistrmind, I sense a lot of wedgies in your kids future.

/Are wedgies still a thing?
 
2014-08-14 02:28:46 PM  
wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

The series is surprisingly interesting. This issue is a parody/tribute to the HP Lovecraft stories.
 
2014-08-14 02:49:37 PM  

Muta: Has anyone else rubbed one out to Betty and/or Veronica?


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-08-14 04:38:05 PM  
Archie characters are well represented by Rule 34.
 
2014-08-14 05:02:54 PM  

red5ish: Archie characters are well represented by Rule 34.


Fact: Dan DeCarlo (creator of Sabrina and Josie) was a top pinup artist of his day.

www.atomicbooks.com
 
2014-08-14 05:23:40 PM  

Joe USer: mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser: mistrmind: menschenfresser:

Also, what if one of your children is gay? What kind of evil, self-hating message are you sending a child? This is why gay children of ultra-conservatives commit suicide so often. Your children aren't any better off for your teaching them that other people are bad just because they exist.


What if?  What if?  What if?   What if my child is the next Hitler?  What if my child creates a cure for cancer?
I don't teach my children people are bad because they exist or are different.  Get a grip.

You just don't want humans of the same gender to show any affection for one another in front of your children, like all other humans are allowed to do. But you totally don't think or teach that's it's bad.

Correct.   So what?   Am I stopping you from shtupping someone of the same sex as you?

Okay, well if that's fine then it should also be fine to remove from sight all romantic situations, public kisses, photos on desks, etc. of opposite-sex couples. That wouldn't stop you from shtupping someone of the opposite sex or anything so it'd be just fine with you, as you just said that's all that matters?

I think you misunderstand.  Public kisses?  Fine, I can look away.  Photos on desk?  Don't care.   Having an agenda in my kids favorite comic books and or t.v. shows.  I have a problem with.  I also have a problem with schools pushing this propaganda on my children.   There is the disconnect we have.

I think the problem is that no one really specifically defines this 'agenda' or 'propaganda'. If you could point out which parts you disagree with, then more people would be able to understand your views.


I can only hope he's busy coming up with a list. I would think that he had one already prepared, since it's his main argument, but I'm not one to judge.
 
2014-08-14 09:07:48 PM  
Joe USer:
I can only hope he's busy coming up with a list. I would think that he had one already prepared, since it's his main argument, but I'm not one to judge.

Something tells me he's not coming back. Either he was a troll and considers his work a success and now finished, or he was serious and has no argument that doesn't boil down to "I just don't like them so they should know their place and stay hidden from sight." I like the way he invoked protecting his children, though; it's telling how close that is to what you hear in Putin's Russia with their anti-gay laws. Maybe he should move to friggin Russia.
 
2014-08-14 09:38:25 PM  
again lets not forget why we have to do this. centuries of kids being told that gays are evil desiease ridden scum that will burn in hell, and that is mild. it is now an agenda and shoving thier life style to show gay people as normal people with feelings and the same problems as you. someone had to show kids the truth because of all the lies.
 
2014-08-14 10:52:07 PM  

Hickory-smoked: [wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net image 630x969]

The series is surprisingly interesting. This issue is a parody/tribute to the HP Lovecraft stories.


Sabrina as the bride of Cthulhu was something I did not see coming.

Also, the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina seems to be pretty much Rosemary's Baby all grown up.
 
2014-08-15 03:06:49 AM  

TV's Vinnie: red5ish: Archie characters are well represented by Rule 34.

Fact: Dan DeCarlo (creator of Sabrina and Josie) was a top pinup artist of his day.

[www.atomicbooks.com image 500x500]


Yep. Believe it or not, I knew that already.
Because, you know, the internet.
And because Fark already covered that in an earlier post.
 
2014-08-15 05:50:17 AM  

menschenfresser: I like the way he invoked protecting his children, though; it's telling how close that is to what you hear in Putin's Russia with their anti-gay laws.


Funny thing is, that's EXACTLY the argument you hear from more educated people in Russia. (Less educated people in Russia don't bother with arguments.) In particular, the argument goes "it's okay for gay people to have sex and stuff, but I don't want them to be seen, because I don't want my children see them. Why gay people need to show off their relationships and desires? And all those gay parades!"

When you ask them "but what about Mardi Gras and straight sexual parades", the answer is "but it's different. It's traditional!"

*shrug* at that point I'm usually in the mood of killing someone, so naturally the discussion stops.
 
2014-08-15 09:13:34 AM  

red5ish: TV's Vinnie: red5ish: Archie characters are well represented by Rule 34.

Fact: Dan DeCarlo (creator of Sabrina and Josie) was a top pinup artist of his day.

[www.atomicbooks.com image 500x500]

Yep. Believe it or not, I knew that already.
Because, you know, the internet.
And because Fark already covered that in an earlier post.


Hey. Some people seem to act like if you remember anything that happened more than five years ago, you're old and fart clouds of dust scented of Ensure.
 
2014-08-15 09:13:48 AM  

Grahor: menschenfresser: I like the way he invoked protecting his children, though; it's telling how close that is to what you hear in Putin's Russia with their anti-gay laws.

Funny thing is, that's EXACTLY the argument you hear from more educated people in Russia. (Less educated people in Russia don't bother with arguments.) In particular, the argument goes "it's okay for gay people to have sex and stuff, but I don't want them to be seen, because I don't want my children see them. Why gay people need to show off their relationships and desires? And all those gay parades!"

When you ask them "but what about Mardi Gras and straight sexual parades", the answer is "but it's different. It's traditional!"

*shrug* at that point I'm usually in the mood of killing someone, so naturally the discussion stops.


There are Hetrosexual Pride parades?   That is a new one on me.
 
2014-08-15 12:47:32 PM  

mistrmind: There are Hetrosexual Pride parades?   That is a new one on me.


There are many varieties, they usually are too common for people to pay attention. As an example I may offer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_T-shirt_contest - certainly an event where heterosexuality is very proudly paraded.
 
2014-08-15 01:06:10 PM  

Grahor: mistrmind: There are Hetrosexual Pride parades?   That is a new one on me.

There are many varieties, they usually are too common for people to pay attention. As an example I may offer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_T-shirt_contest - certainly an event where heterosexuality is very proudly paraded.


I'm not sure how a wet t-shirt contest represents a Hetrosexual Pride parade?  I mean where are the floats, flags, and signs showing man + woman is the only way to go and people chanting hetro-pride?
 
2014-08-15 07:29:42 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
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