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(Mediaite)   Sean Hannity can't figure out why everybody's down on the police these days. Why, he's never had anything but positive experiences with cops. And *that's* coming from an obscenely wealthy, white, celebrity   (mediaite.com) divider line 119
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2014-08-14 08:49:32 AM  
To be fair, if anyone should be pepper sprayed on a regular basis, he would be high on the list, so I can see his confusion.
 
2014-08-14 08:50:13 AM  
Can't we waterboard this motherfarker already?
 
2014-08-14 09:15:48 AM  
"I'm not saying that white people are better. I'm saying that  being white is clearly better, who could even argue? If it was an option, I would re-up ever year. 'Oh yeah I'll take white again absolutely, I've been enjoying that, I'll stick with white thank you.' Here's how great it is to be white, I could get in a time machine and go to any time, and it would be farking awesome when I get there! That is exclusively a white privilege.  can't fark with time machines. A black guy in a time machine is like 'Hey, anything before 1980, no thank you, I don't want to go.' But I can go to any time ... in the past, I don't want to go to the future and find out what happens to white people, because we're going to pay hard for this shiat, you gotta know that ... we're not just gonna fall from number 1 to 2. They're going to hold us down and fark us in the ass forever, and we totally deserve it, but for now:  Wheeeee! If you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole! It is great and I'm a man. How many advantages can one person have? I'm a  white man, you can't even hurt my feelings! What can you really call a white man that really digs deep? 'Hey cracker!' ... 'Oh, ruined my day. Boy, shouldn't have called me a cracker, bringing me back to owning land and people. What a drag.'" - Louis C.K.
 
2014-08-14 09:18:40 AM  
He's got a child's grasp on what the exercise of power really entails.  It's not even "might makes right."  It's more infantile.
 
2014-08-14 09:33:59 AM  
I'm a 30-something, white male engineer and Navy veteran.  In my limited adult interactions with police (say, 6 traffic stops):
1. Three have gone very professionally.  Good job, coppers!
2. One saw the officer immediately call for backup while screaming at me for looking at him in my rear-view mirror and then berating me throughout the stop.  Reason for stop: expired tag.  Reason for crazy reaction: black Altima with dark tint (read: suspicion of DWB).  Ticket thrown out in court.
3. One saw the officer perjure himself in court against me, that he'd witnessed something that not only didn't happen but that he wasn't present for in the first place, although I was easily able to refute his claims to the judge.  Moving violation reduced to a operator's fine.
4. One saw the officer completely unwilling to talk to me about why I might be speeding on an empty road in a military-tagged car towards Norfolk the day after 9/11.  The judge threw out the ticket, it was so obvious.

This is how they treat people that don't even fit the "thug profile" (as if that's even just), Sean.  That you don't get harassed while getting chauffeured about Manhattan and other red states that you visit doesn't give you any appreciation for how cops really are is no surprise, but even less of a surprise is that you'll shoot your mouth off from a position of complete ignorance.
 
2014-08-14 09:51:39 AM  
And Joe Scarborough is blaming the reporters who were arrested for not obeying the cops.

I don't know how to talk about these kinds of people without Godwinning. Maybe just call them authoritarians? That doesn't seem like enough.
 
2014-08-14 10:19:00 AM  
Just how often is Hannity getting pulled over?
 
2014-08-14 10:19:01 AM  
I'll never forgive Alan Colmes for never, not once, reaching over and punching Hannity right in his goddamn mouth.
 
2014-08-14 10:20:23 AM  

DamnYankees: And Joe Scarborough is blaming the reporters who were arrested for not obeying the cops.

I don't know how to talk about these kinds of people without Godwinning. Maybe just call them authoritarians? That doesn't seem like enough.


They're neither: they're opportunists pandering to their insulated audience, one with a deep distrust of blacks and poors that far outweighs their stated distrust of the government.  The "we came unarmed... this time" set turn into government overreach worshipers when it just so happens to be a group of black people demonstrating instead of white people.

NewsCorp knows that and they write the script.  Can't have key demographics turning off the TV, now can we?
 
2014-08-14 10:22:22 AM  

factoryconnection: DamnYankees: And Joe Scarborough is blaming the reporters who were arrested for not obeying the cops.

I don't know how to talk about these kinds of people without Godwinning. Maybe just call them authoritarians? That doesn't seem like enough.

They're neither: they're opportunists pandering to their insulated audience, one with a deep distrust of blacks and poors that far outweighs their stated distrust of the government.  The "we came unarmed... this time" set turn into government overreach worshipers when it just so happens to be a group of black people demonstrating instead of white people.

NewsCorp knows that and they write the script.  Can't have key demographics turning off the TV, now can we?


your way underestimating the degree to which public figures, both in media and politics, actually have beliefs. Maybe not coherent or consistent believes, but real ones. They mostly really do believe these things.
 
2014-08-14 10:25:22 AM  

I_Am_Weasel: Just how often is Hannity getting pulled over?


How's this sound: Sean Hannity, in lieu of getting waterboarded can just agree to drive around for a year in a 2008 Chrysler 300 with 22" chrome rims, the darkest-legal tint job, and metallic-orange paint.  Maybe throw on a Alpha Phi Alpha license plate frame just for a little icing.

Let's see how his perception of cops changes.
 
2014-08-14 10:27:02 AM  

DamnYankees: your way underestimating the degree to which public figures, both in media and politics, actually have beliefs. Maybe not coherent or consistent believes, but real ones. They mostly really do believe these things.


It isn't that I find it difficult to believe that they're sincere, it is just that the cynical explanation seems all the more plausible, given the timing and reality of their employment.
 
2014-08-14 10:28:58 AM  
FTFA:  By the way, I don't know how you are when you get pulled over by a cop. I know how I am all the times I did. [...] When a cop pulls me over, I put my hands outside of the car. If I'm carrying a weapon, which I'm licensed to carry in New York, the first thing I tell the police officer is, 'Officer, I want you to know I have a legal firearm in the car.' First thing I say to the officer. He'll ask, 'Where is it?' I'll say, 'It's in my holster.' And he says, 'Alright, just keep your hands outside.' That's usually the protocol. And then 'Can I have your license and registration, please? Move slowly.' And I often would even step out of the car, lift my shirt up so he can see where the gun is. 'Yes, sir,' 'No, sir,' writes me a ticket.' Thank you, sir,' and that's it. You battle the issue in court.  I was white.

Fixed that for you, shiatstain.
 
2014-08-14 10:29:53 AM  

factoryconnection: I_Am_Weasel: Just how often is Hannity getting pulled over?

How's this sound: Sean Hannity, in lieu of getting waterboarded can just agree to drive around for a year in a 2008 Chrysler 300 with 22" chrome rims, the darkest-legal tint job, and metallic-orange paint.  Maybe throw on a Alpha Phi Alpha license plate frame just for a little icing.

Let's see how his perception of cops changes.


I'd accept a reverse Eddie Murphy:
3.bp.blogspot.com

Then chloroform him and plop him onto the Koch's front lawn.  Let him wake up black there and watch the ensuing hilarity.

"But I'm Sean Hannity!"
 
2014-08-14 10:34:24 AM  

DamnYankees: And Joe Scarborough is blaming the reporters who were arrested for not obeying the cops.

I don't know how to talk about these kinds of people without Godwinning. Maybe just call them authoritarians? That doesn't seem like enough.


The word you are looking for is "asshole."
 
2014-08-14 10:38:31 AM  
'Yes, sir,' 'No, sir,' writes me a ticket.' Thank you, sir

No "Please may I have another"?
 
2014-08-14 10:50:24 AM  
He's a mouthpiece for extreme right-wing authoritarian ideologues. His job is to spread the ideology through FUD. He's very good at his job and just calling him stupid or infantile is probably severely underestimating his impact on a significant portion of the US population.

Underestimate him at the peril of your own liberty. They'll continue to spread the message through fear, hell, they openly blame the poor economic recovery on "uncertainty" without any shame. Nobody cares about the rampant money grab by the wealthiest and most powerful people and corporations - questioning them is Commie Talk, and we can't have that. That's the M.O. and it WORKS.

People will continue to vote "tough on crime" and people with marginal incomes will continue to allow shiatbags like Hannity to convince them that the people on welfare are just lazy and stealing from them, forgetting how we "bailed out" the banks and continue to give them near-zero interest loans so they can give you a 15% interest credit card and foreclose on your house, even if they don't hold the farking mortgage.
 
2014-08-14 11:02:44 AM  
I never had any problem with cops either.  Sure I grew up in an upper-middle class white suburb, but that's not the point.  Obviously those - you know, urban people - are doing something wrong   Cops never misbehave.

It's amazing how conservatives can be so suspicious of law enforcement on the federal level, yet write blank checks to street cops.
 
2014-08-14 11:11:42 AM  

Clent: If you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole! It is great and I'm a man. How many advantages can one person have? I'm a white man, you can't even hurt my feelings!


Pearl Jam added "American".

- He won the lottery when he was born.
     - WMA


Don't really like quoting song lyrics, but that one rings of truth.
 
2014-08-14 11:38:06 AM  
Sean Hannity's racism is showing, he had a big problem with government overreach earlier this year when it was a white guy.
 
2014-08-14 11:39:04 AM  
Every day on my lunchbreak I take a 10 minute walk down to the News Corp Building and around the block just on the off chance I'll run into one of these douche nuggets so that I can tell them to go fark themselves to their face.
 
2014-08-14 11:42:42 AM  
Don't forget that these are the same guys who were falling over themselves to fellate Bundy and his gun-happy supporters for defying federal officers.
 
2014-08-14 11:44:18 AM  
Perhaps he was never picked up and  questioned about a rape and murder a young girl in 1990, like some white, rich celebrity that are just skipped over.
 
2014-08-14 11:48:39 AM  
Maybe he should ask Greg Jarrett about how to struggle with police.
 
2014-08-14 11:52:19 AM  
Wasnt he just saying cops were bad when they invaded Cliven Bundy's ranch?

That was what , 3 months ago??
 
2014-08-14 11:54:26 AM  
Even when I got arrested, I've had "positive" dealings with cops - no harassment, no trumped-up bullshiat, no brutality.

I'm a big dude (arresting officer told me he expected trouble), but I guess I look white enough and am deferential enough (which is often not the case when people are being detained/arrested, especially for bullshiat) that they take their macho bullshiat out on other, browner folk.

// bullshiat
// my privilege, let me show you it
 
2014-08-14 11:55:34 AM  

DeaH: To be fair, if anyone should be pepper sprayed on a regular basis, he would be high on the list, so I can see his confusion.


Did he ever fulfill his promise to be waterboarded?
 
2014-08-14 11:56:07 AM  

vernonFL: Wasnt he just saying cops were bad when they invaded Cliven Bundy's ranch?

That was what , 3 months ago??


Yes that cops were invading a white man's land.  This is thug country MO so Sean see it differently now.
 
2014-08-14 11:57:54 AM  
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Yes this country is overwhelmingly white and racist towards blacks, but-- God, why can't people just see PAST color...(and GENDER)...like me?
 
2014-08-14 11:58:45 AM  

vernonFL: Wasnt he just saying cops were bad when they invaded Cliven Bundy's ranch?

That was what , 3 months ago??


Well you see those weren't your friendly local beat cops, but federal thugs, so therefore different.
 
2014-08-14 11:58:52 AM  
Has Hannity ever been stomped twice in the same day - for 'random' stops?
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Did the cop ever curse at him before he said a word?
<p>Or did they all look at him, see a wealthy, white man and realize that he would sue them and treat him with respect first?
 
2014-08-14 12:02:20 PM  

factoryconnection: I_Am_Weasel: Just how often is Hannity getting pulled over?

How's this sound: Sean Hannity, in lieu of getting waterboarded can just agree to drive around for a year in a 2008 Chrysler 300 with 22" chrome rims, the darkest-legal tint job, and metallic-orange paint.  Maybe throw on a Alpha Phi Alpha license plate frame just for a little icing.

Let's see how his perception of cops changes.


V-6 or V-8? Because I have to tell you, that offer intrigues me.

/White
//Very white
 
2014-08-14 12:02:47 PM  
He also has never been raped on a date (at least not that we know of)
 
2014-08-14 12:05:06 PM  
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I wonder if those in Ferguson marched with AR-15s and held up signs displaying slogans such as "Second Amendment Solutions", "Don't Tread On Me", talking of armed revolutions, etc, how would Hannity and the political right feel about them?
 
2014-08-14 12:08:49 PM  

heavymetal: [scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net image 706x669]
I wonder if those in Ferguson marched with AR-15s and held up signs displaying slogans such as "Second Amendment Solutions", "Don't Tread On Me", talking of armed revolutions, etc, how would Hannity and the political right feel about them?


The really farked up thing is we have a 20 year paper trail showing Bundy to be a criminal, all we got is one cops word that the kid that he executed was going for his gun.
 
2014-08-14 12:14:01 PM  
Basically you can paint any group as farked up once you've had a bad experience with them, and paint anyone in a good light if you haven't had a bad experience with them.

My life's been conflicted... I grew up in a town so redneck and full of idiots that when my sister and I got to kindergarten everyone rolled their eyes and said "Oh. They're from THAT town. They're going to be trouble."

Worst, most assholish cop I ever encountered was a black guy from one of the wealthiest counties in the US.

I once angered a bunch of people at a wedding party in Mississippi when several people went on a rant about the behavior of "those people" and I told of similar stories... Then mentioned that it all happened in a white neighborhood, done by whites.

So can we get past generic sets and point out that specific incidences are assholes, such as Sean Hannity?
 
2014-08-14 12:14:24 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: It's amazing how conservatives can be so suspicious of law enforcement on the federal level, yet write blank checks to street cops.


...and then stop payment on those blank checks when it's time to talk about union wages for civil employees. Oops...I mean, union thugs.
 
2014-08-14 12:16:19 PM  

heavymetal: [scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net image 706x669]
I wonder if those in Ferguson marched with AR-15s and held up signs displaying slogans such as "Second Amendment Solutions", "Don't Tread On Me", talking of armed revolutions, etc, how would Hannity and the political right feel about them?


Nah, they didn't hold up the guns...just the signs.

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2014-08-14 12:18:38 PM  

CPennypacker: Every day on my lunchbreak I take a 10 minute walk down to the News Corp Building and around the block just on the off chance I'll run into one of these douche nuggets so that I can tell them to go fark themselves to their face.


I had a client in that building- but the only person I ran into was of all people Charles Rangel.  Did see Lou Dobbs walking a couple of blocks away though, but I feel more pity than hate for him.
 
2014-08-14 12:21:40 PM  
 "That's that whole police brutality thing. See that's common knowledge now. There used to be a time when only minorities really knew about that. Now I'm not saying white people didn't believe us, but you were a little skeptical. Then the NewsWeek printed it and you knew it was true. 'Oh my god...Honey did you see this? Aparently, the police have been beating up Negros like hot cakes!' Really though, how could you know? I mean you should have been a little suspicious. Don't you think its a little suspicious...that every dead black person the police find has crack sprinkled on him? I mean come on. Who gets shot and then sprinkles crack on themselves?"


factoryconnection: I'm a 30-something, white male engineer and Navy veteran.  In my limited adult interactions with police (say, 6 traffic stops):
1. Three have gone very professionally.  Good job, coppers!
2. One saw the officer immediately call for backup while screaming at me for looking at him in my rear-view mirror and then berating me throughout the stop.  Reason for stop: expired tag.  Reason for crazy reaction: black Altima with dark tint (read: suspicion of DWB).  Ticket thrown out in court.
3. One saw the officer perjure himself in court against me, that he'd witnessed something that not only didn't happen but that he wasn't present for in the first place, although I was easily able to refute his claims to the judge.  Moving violation reduced to a operator's fine.
4. One saw the officer completely unwilling to talk to me about why I might be speeding on an empty road in a military-tagged car towards Norfolk the day after 9/11.  The judge threw out the ticket, it was so obvious.

This is how they treat people that don't even fit the "thug profile" (as if that's even just), Sean.  That you don't get harassed while getting chauffeured about Manhattan and other red states that you visit doesn't give you any appreciation for how cops really are is no surprise, but even less of a surprise is that you'll shoot your mouth off from a position of complete ignorance.


My experiences are about the same. White male, in my 30s now, college, professional etc.

I'd say 1/4 of the police I have dealt with were polite and doing their jobs well (even if I was on the receiving end of a ticket or something). 1/4 were downright assholes for no reason, it's not like I was being rude or anything. The rest just seemed like they didn't want to be there.
 
2014-08-14 12:24:05 PM  
Thomas Sowell made a similar argument in response to some incident in NYC (I think it was either the Diallo shooting or the Louima plunger-rape incident).  It was something along the lines of "I'm black, and the police have never shot me or raped me, so I don't understand what all the fuss is about."

/When you think about all the buildings that WEREN'T hit by planes on 9/11, it's hard to understand why people made such a big deal about it. . .
 
2014-08-14 12:30:19 PM  
Also, Dr. Dreidel is getting creepily close to being my more well spoken good twin. More Jewish, but a fellow intellectual Maryland giant.
 
2014-08-14 12:33:00 PM  
Cool Story White Bro time:

The only time I've ever been hassled by cops was on Halloween when I dressed as Rorschach and stood in a dark alley scaring drunks.  He basically told me that if someone beat my ass, it would be my own fault.  He was right, but it was too funny watching drunk sorority girls freak out at the mask.  And some of them wanted pictures with me, so there was that.
 
2014-08-14 12:42:08 PM  
Look, I just joined the conservative movement a couple weeks. I thought we hated government and the police. Is there a bulletin I should be getting if there's a change in our hatin? I'm not getting that bulletin.
 
2014-08-14 12:43:15 PM  
nocturnal001:

My experiences are about the same. White male, in my 30s now, college, professional etc.

I'd say 1/4 of the police I have dealt with were polite and doing their jobs well (even if I was on the receiving end of a ticket or something). 1/4 were downright assholes for no reason, it's not like I was being rude or anything. The rest just seemed like they didn't want to be there.


A lot of life's interactions is just being polite and respectful. Be good to anyone, a shopkeeper, a cop, a computer geek and all goes well.

But then you just get people who aren't very good at their jobs and it all goes to hell.
 
2014-08-14 12:43:19 PM  

maxheck: Also, Dr. Dreidel is getting creepily close to being my more well spoken good twin. More Jewish, but a fellow intellectual Maryland giant.


Well, muchas smooches to you too! Have some Cyan 3.

// not from MD anymore - I live in actual DC now
// ..are you calling me fat?
 
2014-08-14 12:44:33 PM  

Dust: FTFA:  By the way, I don't know how you are when you get pulled over by a cop. I know how I am all the times I did. [...] When a cop pulls me over, I put my hands outside of the car. If I'm carrying a weapon, which I'm licensed to carry in New York, the first thing I tell the police officer is, 'Officer, I want you to know I have a legal firearm in the car.' First thing I say to the officer. He'll ask, 'Where is it?' I'll say, 'It's in my holster.' And he says, 'Alright, just keep your hands outside.' That's usually the protocol. And then 'Can I have your license and registration, please? Move slowly.' And I often would even step out of the car, lift my shirt up so he can see where the gun is. 'Yes, sir,' 'No, sir,' writes me a ticket.' Thank you, sir,' and that's it. You battle the issue in court.


What? Why on earth would you get out of your car unless a cop asks you? And why would you then grab anything on yourself? It would be far too easy for the cop to think that you were going to be aggressive and act accordingly. Infinitely more so if you're not white.
 
2014-08-14 12:48:09 PM  
I've had nothing but positive experiences with cops and I've been arrested several times.  Hannity should try it out.  Maybe he will find a new level of positivity.
 
2014-08-14 12:48:50 PM  

fiddlehead: Dust: FTFA:  By the way, I don't know how you are when you get pulled over by a cop. I know how I am all the times I did. [...] When a cop pulls me over, I put my hands outside of the car. If I'm carrying a weapon, which I'm licensed to carry in New York, the first thing I tell the police officer is, 'Officer, I want you to know I have a legal firearm in the car.' First thing I say to the officer. He'll ask, 'Where is it?' I'll say, 'It's in my holster.' And he says, 'Alright, just keep your hands outside.' That's usually the protocol. And then 'Can I have your license and registration, please? Move slowly.' And I often would even step out of the car, lift my shirt up so he can see where the gun is. 'Yes, sir,' 'No, sir,' writes me a ticket.' Thank you, sir,' and that's it. You battle the issue in court.

What? Why on earth would you get out of your car unless a cop asks you? And why would you then grab anything on yourself? It would be far too easy for the cop to think that you were going to be aggressive and act accordingly. Infinitely more so if you're not white.


I'm not a gun guy, so maybe a gun guy can explain this to me.  But do you guys actually drive with your gun holstered to your waist?  That sounds 1) uncomfortable, 2) inconvenient, 3) like it might cause problems with the seat belt, and 4) a potential accidental discharge in the making.  I always figured you guys put them under the seat or in the glove compartment when you got into the driver's seat.
 
2014-08-14 12:51:25 PM  

fiddlehead: Dust: FTFA:  By the way, I don't know how you are when you get pulled over by a cop. I know how I am all the times I did. [...] When a cop pulls me over, I put my hands outside of the car. If I'm carrying a weapon, which I'm licensed to carry in New York, the first thing I tell the police officer is, 'Officer, I want you to know I have a legal firearm in the car.' First thing I say to the officer. He'll ask, 'Where is it?' I'll say, 'It's in my holster.' And he says, 'Alright, just keep your hands outside.' That's usually the protocol. And then 'Can I have your license and registration, please? Move slowly.' And I often would even step out of the car, lift my shirt up so he can see where the gun is. 'Yes, sir,' 'No, sir,' writes me a ticket.' Thank you, sir,' and that's it. You battle the issue in court.

What? Why on earth would you get out of your car unless a cop asks you? And why would you then grab anything on yourself? It would be far too easy for the cop to think that you were going to be aggressive and act accordingly. Infinitely more so if you're not white.



Surely you are not implying that Hannity is making this up, are you surely?
 
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