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2014-08-13 08:44:19 PM  
Hyponatremia is no joke.
 
2014-08-13 09:25:51 PM  
There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities
 
2014-08-13 09:27:29 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities


I've never heard of anyone dying from getting excessive blowjobs, but I am willing to study the subject.
 
2014-08-13 09:33:56 PM  
 
2014-08-13 09:57:31 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities


Oxygen?
 
2014-08-13 10:09:07 PM  

Ambivalence: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

Oxygen?


mygaming.co.za
 
2014-08-13 10:21:10 PM  

Ambivalence: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

Oxygen?


That'll do it.
 
2014-08-13 10:39:12 PM  
Should have been drinking Brawndo

/it's got electrlytes
 
2014-08-13 10:43:24 PM  

Ambivalence: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

Oxygen?


It's been thought that people with copd could be killed by too much pure oxygen but that doesn't appear to be very likely
 
2014-08-13 10:46:00 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Ambivalence: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

Oxygen?

It's been thought that people with copd could be killed by too much pure oxygen but that doesn't appear to be very likely


It has been known to be deadly when one of them lights a cigarette
 
2014-08-13 11:01:25 PM  
This is not a repeat from 1994?
 
2014-08-13 11:03:52 PM  
 
2014-08-13 11:11:15 PM  

kxs401: Ambivalence: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

Oxygen?

That'll do it.


I'm pretty sure the song doesn't go "Love is like oxygen, have to much and you will die."
 
2014-08-13 11:26:15 PM  
Wasn't this also what killed that woman who was trying to win a Wii a few years ago?
 
2014-08-13 11:29:57 PM  
How hard is it to drink until you don't feel thirsty anymore? Your body knows.... Listen to it
 
2014-08-13 11:30:40 PM  

Ambivalence: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

Oxygen?


Suck down some pure o2 at the bottom of the deep end of a pool sometime and see what happens.
 
2014-08-13 11:30:51 PM  

CRtwenty: Wasn't this also what killed that woman who was trying to win a Wii a few years ago?


Yes, it happened back in 2007 to a woman in Sacramento.
 
2014-08-13 11:31:06 PM  
Water catastrophe.
 
2014-08-13 11:31:17 PM  
It's what plants crave.
 
2014-08-13 11:31:55 PM  

Ambivalence: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

Oxygen?


Oxygen can actually be lethal, especially high flow, high concentration oxygen in certain conditions, and it's shown to increase 30 day mortality even in relatively minor illnesses where it is not necessary to maintain normal arterial oxygenation levels (PaO2 70 - 100 )
 
2014-08-13 11:32:58 PM  
Tampa, Florida -- High school football in Florida is a storied tradition, and Tampa Bay cultivates some of the best players. So does Georgia, but the career of one young man ended in tragedy.

Now that's what i call writing
 
2014-08-13 11:33:46 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: It's been thought that people with copd could be killed by too much pure oxygen but that doesn't appear to be very likely


It's a common belief among nursing, respiratory therapy, and primary care docs - especially those educated before 1995, but there doesn't appear to be any backing for it other than a cursory belief that it will affect the hypoxic drive which develops in COPDers.

The real danger from arterial hyperoxemia in those patients is the increased generation of oxidative stress and free oxygen radicals, as well as coronary vasospasm which occurs in hyperoxemia.
 
2014-08-13 11:34:43 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: How hard is it to drink until you don't feel thirsty anymore? Your body knows.... Listen to it


When you're cramping badly and someone tells you it's from dehydration, so you quickly ingest a lot of water, your body doesn't have enough time to tell you "enough."

Besides, he was drinking the water to address his cramps, not because he was thirsty. He wouldn't have listened even if his body had time to say "not thirsty now."
 
2014-08-13 11:34:53 PM  
That's why I don't exercise. I have DHMO allergies.
 
2014-08-13 11:37:11 PM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: How hard is it to drink until you don't feel thirsty anymore? Your body knows.... Listen to it


The problem is that the cramping wasn't from hypovolemia or primary dehydration, it was from loss of electrolytes like sodium and potassium from sweating.

By drinking more and more, he not only accelerated hemodilution of his electrolytes, causing the condition to relatively worsen as well as defeating any compensatory mechanisms he had, but also caused more of his bicarbonate, sodium, and potassium to spill into his gut due to the hypotonic solution he ingested.
 
2014-08-13 11:37:31 PM  
Sounds like they need an experienced water boy on staff.
 
2014-08-13 11:37:46 PM  

you are a puppet: Tampa, Florida -- High school football in Florida is a storied tradition, and Tampa Bay cultivates some of the best players. So does Georgia, but the career of one young man ended in tragedy.

Now that's what i call writing


Yes. Terrible writing.

/hmm, how can we make a Georgia story "local" to our Florida readers?
//"We breathe air in Florida. They breathe air in Georgia too. But one promising Georgian athlete isn't anymore."
///just saying... ok I feel bad about myself now
 
2014-08-13 11:39:05 PM  

you are a puppet: Tampa, Florida -- High school football in Florida is a storied tradition, and Tampa Bay cultivates some of the best players. So does Georgia, but the career of one young man ended in tragedy.

Now that's what i call writing


The commas, they really slow down the tempo. So that floridians, can understand it.
 
2014-08-13 11:39:57 PM  

Ambivalence: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

Oxygen?


Lethal in sufficient quantity.

The depth limit for scuba diving is the point where there is no longer *ANY* mix of gasses that do not have bad effects.  The mixes used by saturation divers have so little oxygen that you would die if you tried to breathe them on the surface.

CRtwenty: Wasn't this also what killed that woman who was trying to win a Wii a few years ago?


No.  She died of water intoxication.  (Actually, it's not the water per se, but the depletion/dilution of minerals in the body.  When the sodium level drops too low you're in trouble.)
 
2014-08-13 11:49:49 PM  
What's interesting is that the lethal dose in this case (4 gallons) is not that different from what a person might think is safe. Plus half of those 4 gallons were isotonic (maybe even hypertonic) in the form of Gatorade.

4 gallons is a bit over 15 liters, so that would be 30 average-sized water bottles, which granted is a lot, but in terms of the difference between a normal dose and a lethal dose, they're not too far apart. I mean most people carrying home a 24 pack of Dasani home from the grocery store wouldn't consider it to be a possibly lethal dose of water.

I am for some reason constantly thirsty no matter how much I drink (and no, I don't have diabetes), so I worry about this a bit. I can easily drink a 1 liter carbonated water from Trader Joe's in one sitting.
 
2014-08-13 11:55:02 PM  
"Unless you're in the know, in the medical field, maybe you would have knowledge of this, but as a parent, no...you wouldn't think," said Matt Rusish, whose son plays football at Clearwater Central Catholic."


Motherstomper drank 4 gallons of fluid. I'm no rocket doctor but I don't think having a medical degree is necessary to know this won't end well.


"....drank two gallons of water and two gallons of Gatorade to stop cramps. :
 
2014-08-13 11:59:06 PM  
FTA: "Clearwater Central Catholic has a prominent football program where Coach John Davis pushes his players hard, but says hydration is a tenant of any sport."

Really?  Do they even have an editor look at this stuff before it goes live?
 
2014-08-14 12:00:34 AM  

swingerofbirches: What's interesting is that the lethal dose in this case (4 gallons) is not that different from what a person might think is safe. Plus half of those 4 gallons were isotonic (maybe even hypertonic) in the form of Gatorade.

4 gallons is a bit over 15 liters, so that would be 30 average-sized water bottles, which granted is a lot, but in terms of the difference between a normal dose and a lethal dose, they're not too far apart. I mean most people carrying home a 24 pack of Dasani home from the grocery store wouldn't consider it to be a possibly lethal dose of water.

I am for some reason constantly thirsty no matter how much I drink (and no, I don't have diabetes), so I worry about this a bit. I can easily drink a 1 liter carbonated water from Trader Joe's in one sitting.


The problem is that we do not know his baseline sodium,, potassium, chloride, bicarbonate, or glucose levels, and that he was drinking massive amounts of hypotonic fluid. (Tap water is not isotonic, even municipal water). We do not even know if he had worked himself to the point of myoglobinemia through working and damaging muscles, which would have further impared his ability to regulate fluid and electrolytes. In addition, gatorade is a  horrible idea to rehydrate someone - it has too much glucose and can actually act as an osmotic laxative.

Rapidly replenishing Sodium when it is below normal levels, especially below 130meq/L, is only done when the patient is actively seizing, or there is life-threatening cerebral edema. Otherwise it's generally corrected over the space of days, not hours.
 
2014-08-14 12:01:29 AM  
Are we SURE this wasn't some youtube social media inspired thing that all the hip minority children are doing today, like the knockout game or the mud track racing vehicular homicide game?
 
2014-08-14 12:03:51 AM  
I don't know about DHMO, but oxylane is implicated in many deaths every year.
 
2014-08-14 12:05:11 AM  

Lsherm: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

I've never heard of anyone dying from getting excessive blowjobs, but I am willing to study the subject.


Case study: Raphael Sanzio da Urbino.
 
2014-08-14 12:07:58 AM  

Lsherm: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

I've never heard of anyone dying from getting excessive blowjobs, but I am willing to study the subject.


Oh, that's been confirmed to have happened.

Her husband came home.
 
2014-08-14 12:08:12 AM  
Mature farkers generally never RTFA, and here's an example of why (besides the clickbayte aspect).

This time I figured what the hell, some poor bastard drank too much water and died? Damn. I've really put down a sh*t-ton of water after doing stuff in the heat of summer, and I wondered how close I may have come to the same fate.

So in a moment of unusual curiosity and tolerance (two shots of the MacAllan 25), I read the article, and what did I find? Yet another f*cking $10/hr intern writing production copy: "hydration is a tenant of any sport ". Jesus jumping christ on a f*cking pogo stick. Reading news is getting to be an insult to my edjamikashun.

Oh well, can't stay - I have to go be fun at a party in 26 minutes.
 
2014-08-14 12:08:50 AM  
lol I got Gremlined
 
2014-08-14 12:11:30 AM  

hardinparamedic: Representative of the unwashed masses: How hard is it to drink until you don't feel thirsty anymore? Your body knows.... Listen to it

The problem is that the cramping wasn't from hypovolemia or primary dehydration, it was from loss of electrolytes like sodium and potassium from sweating.

By drinking more and more, he not only accelerated hemodilution of his electrolytes, causing the condition to relatively worsen as well as defeating any compensatory mechanisms he had, but also caused more of his bicarbonate, sodium, and potassium to spill into his gut due to the hypotonic solution he ingested.


reposted from video tab a few weeks ago: monkey never cramps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdGai72Tt8Y
 
2014-08-14 12:18:34 AM  

hardinparamedic: The problem is that we do not know his baseline sodium,, potassium, chloride, bicarbonate, or glucose levels, and that he was drinking massive amounts of hypotonic fluid. (Tap water is not isotonic, even municipal water). We do not even know if he had worked himself to the point of myoglobinemia through working and damaging muscles, which would have further impared his ability to regulate fluid and electrolytes. In addition, gatorade is a horrible idea to rehydrate someone - it has too much glucose and can actually act as an osmotic laxative.

Rapidly replenishing Sodium when it is below normal levels, especially below 130meq/L, is only done when the patient is actively seizing, or there is life-threatening cerebral edema. Otherwise it's generally corrected over the space of days, not hours.


I am a little impressed with myself that I can (barely) make out what the fark you're saying.
 
2014-08-14 12:43:11 AM  

Lsherm: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

I've never heard of anyone dying from getting excessive blowjobs, but I am willing to study the subject.


DEATH BY SNU-SNU!
 
2014-08-14 12:46:33 AM  

brimed03: Representative of the unwashed masses: How hard is it to drink until you don't feel thirsty anymore? Your body knows.... Listen to it

When you're cramping badly and someone tells you it's from dehydration, so you quickly ingest a lot of water, your body doesn't have enough time to tell you "enough."

Besides, he was drinking the water to address his cramps, not because he was thirsty. He wouldn't have listened even if his body had time to say "not thirsty now."


Im not sure I could ingest 3 gallons of fluids in such a short period. That is not an easy thing to do.
 
2014-08-14 01:20:18 AM  

mschwenk: brimed03: Representative of the unwashed masses: How hard is it to drink until you don't feel thirsty anymore? Your body knows.... Listen to it

When you're cramping badly and someone tells you it's from dehydration, so you quickly ingest a lot of water, your body doesn't have enough time to tell you "enough."

Besides, he was drinking the water to address his cramps, not because he was thirsty. He wouldn't have listened even if his body had time to say "not thirsty now."

Im not sure I could ingest 3 gallons of fluids in such a short period. That is not an easy thing to do.


It's also apparently not a smart thing to do, so you're safer that way.
 
2014-08-14 01:23:35 AM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Water catastrophe.


*funnied*

It's like he was the anti-Martin Lewerence.
 
2014-08-14 01:25:33 AM  
We must form a foundation in this kids name to fight against the industry pushing this deadly chemical.
 
2014-08-14 01:58:04 AM  

fusillade762: Hyponatremia is no joke.


neither is Hypoluxo
 
2014-08-14 02:36:33 AM  

hardinparamedic: Peter von Nostrand: It's been thought that people with copd could be killed by too much pure oxygen but that doesn't appear to be very likely

It's a common belief among nursing, respiratory therapy, and primary care docs - especially those educated before 1995, but there doesn't appear to be any backing for it other than a cursory belief that it will affect the hypoxic drive which develops in COPDers.

The real danger from arterial hyperoxemia in those patients is the increased generation of oxidative stress and free oxygen radicals, as well as coronary vasospasm which occurs in hyperoxemia.


Since it sound like you know what you're talking about, all snark aside:  How much is too much water?
 
2014-08-14 02:39:01 AM  

mschwenk: Lsherm: Peter von Nostrand: There's not much out there that won't kill you in excessive quantities

I've never heard of anyone dying from getting excessive blowjobs, but I am willing to study the subject.

DEATH BY SNU-SNU!


The spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised...
 
2014-08-14 02:46:58 AM  
How is drinking that much of anything that quickly possible?

And why not put it in your butt instead? That's where wine works best.

/ Obscure?
 
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