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(Talking Points Memo)   National Review writer: "Yes, I wrote about the black people in Missouri by describing one of them as a primate and saying another one looked like three fifths of Snoop Dogg, but you're the real racist for noticing"   (talkingpointsmemo.com ) divider line
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2014-08-13 06:48:20 PM  
Kevin Williamson, if you've ever seen him on cable news or something, really strikes me as one of those conservatives who's just a genuine misanthrope who thinks he's better than everyone else and just hates people he thinks of as being unworthy of him. Like, he doesn't even pretend he believes in conservativism because he thinks it helps the less fortunate.
 
2014-08-13 06:52:48 PM  
His defense was: "Williamson defended his piece, arguing that humans are "primates" so the reference wasn't offensive."

In response to this: "'Hey, hey craaaaaacka! Cracka!White devil! F*** you, white devil!" The guy looks remarkably like Snoop Dogg: skinny enough for a Vogue advertisement, lean-faced with a wry expression, long braids. He glances slyly from side to side, making sure his audience is taking all this in, before raising his palms to his clavicles, elbows akimbo, in the universal gesture of primate territorial challenge."

The classic right wing ploy of addressing one small part of a larger piece and cutting all context out, then forcing you to graphically explain the entire situation long form as if they don't know what they did wrong, by which point nobody cares anymore.
 
2014-08-13 06:57:25 PM  

SnakeLee: His defense was: "Williamson defended his piece, arguing that humans are "primates" so the reference wasn't offensive."


Even if you take this argument in good faith, the natural response if "if you meant primate to evoke this person being human, why did you even write it? It's a meaningless sentence unless it is meant to invoke animalistic thoughts".
 
2014-08-13 07:18:32 PM  
calling black people monkeys is totes coolsies because we're all just chimpanzees that walk upright amirite my white bros?
 
2014-08-13 07:39:05 PM  

SnakeLee: His defense was: "Williamson defended his piece, arguing that humans are "primates" so the reference wasn't offensive."

In response to this: "'Hey, hey craaaaaacka! Cracka!White devil! F*** you, white devil!" The guy looks remarkably like Snoop Dogg: skinny enough for a Vogue advertisement, lean-faced with a wry expression, long braids. He glances slyly from side to side, making sure his audience is taking all this in, before raising his palms to his clavicles, elbows akimbo, in the universal gesture of primate territorial challenge."

The classic right wing ploy of addressing one small part of a larger piece and cutting all context out, then forcing you to graphically explain the entire situation long form as if they don't know what they did wrong, by which point nobody cares anymore.


who is the first sentence of the second quote attributed to?
 
2014-08-13 07:42:55 PM  
www.detroits-great-rebellion.com
sangamoncountyhistory.org
1.bp.blogspot.com
media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com
www.blackpast.org
www.csmonitor.com


And so on...
 
2014-08-13 07:53:08 PM  
In fairness to the author, who knew anyone would read the article? That came out of left field, and no sane person could have predicted it.

It's one of those -- oh, you know, primate swan events.
 
2014-08-13 07:53:57 PM  
How the fark does this guy still have a job but John Derbyshire got fired?
 
2014-08-13 07:59:32 PM  

Serious Black: How the fark does this guy still have a job but John Derbyshire got fired?


Might just have to wait to see how this will pan out. And maybe wonder whose daughter he married...
 
2014-08-13 08:05:40 PM  

Serious Black: How the fark does this guy still have a job but John Derbyshire got fired?


Aren't virulent racism and the inability to take criticism requirements for NRO writers?
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2014-08-13 08:05:45 PM  
How in the fark does someone whose face looks like a warped bowling ball half-covered in Phyllis Schlafly's pubes even think about commenting on anybody else's appearance?
 
2014-08-13 08:10:14 PM  
National Review carrying on the racist bullshiat from its founder, iconic conservative farkwad William F Buckley?

Oh my, where's my fainting couch.
 
2014-08-13 08:10:56 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: Serious Black: How the fark does this guy still have a job but John Derbyshire got fired?

Aren't virulent racism and the inability to take criticism requirements for NRO writers?


Since 1955.
 
2014-08-13 08:23:19 PM  

Snarfangel: It's one of those -- oh, you know, primate swan events.


frysquintseyes.jpg
 
2014-08-13 08:24:02 PM  

DamnYankees: SnakeLee: His defense was: "Williamson defended his piece, arguing that humans are "primates" so the reference wasn't offensive."

Even if you take this argument in good faith, the natural response if "if you meant primate to evoke this person being human, why did you even write it? It's a meaningless sentence unless it is meant to invoke animalistic thoughts".


If the discussion were about biology, or even the politics of education in Missouri, he would have been in bounds.  But, it wasn't and he isn't.

/Yes, the rioters are all African apes.  So are the cops.  And the bystanders, and the registered voters of Missouri, and so on.
//Still meaningless in this context.
 
2014-08-13 08:24:47 PM  
And yet Fark will still link to NRO articles and refrain from linking directly to stormfront because reasons.
 
2014-08-13 08:27:14 PM  

odinsposse: And yet Fark will still link to NRO articles and refrain from linking directly to stormfront because reasons.


Probably because at least NRO pretends not to be racist.
 
2014-08-13 08:28:09 PM  
B..b..but liberals are the REAL racists!
 
2014-08-13 08:29:14 PM  
That's one dumb-ass honkie.
 
2014-08-13 08:29:34 PM  
And hey, if any of them sue me, I'll just SLAPP 'em!

/That would be taking a page out of the Mark Steyn method of slandering people he doesn't like.
 
2014-08-13 08:36:54 PM  

dr_blasto: National Review carrying on the racist bullshiat from its founder, iconic conservative farkwad William F Buckley?


To be fair, Buckley did publicly change and by the 1980's was supporting the ANC against the Apartheid regime, much to the chagrin of his fellow conservatives.
 
2014-08-13 08:39:42 PM  
I was prepared to sarcastically defend the author by noting that all humans are, by taxonomic classification, members of the "primate" order, only to discover that the author has already employed exactly that defense without sarcasm.
 
2014-08-13 08:41:38 PM  

DamnYankees: really strikes me as one of those conservatives who's just a genuine misanthrope who thinks he's better than everyone else and just hates people he thinks of as being unworthy of him.


That would make him more of a sociopath, I would think. We already know he thinks women should be attracted to vote for men like Mitt Romney with large bank accounts and potent sperm.
 
2014-08-13 08:43:24 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: calling black people monkeys is totes coolsies because we're all just chimpanzees that walk upright amirite my white bros?


I'm more of a bonobo.
 
2014-08-13 08:50:19 PM  
He's a sack of shiat. Well, he does have a rectum, which is shaped like a sack, and it does contain shiat. And I would say that about anyone, even Mother Theresa. Well, maybe not her, she's now a shriveled bag of desiccated dust.
 
2014-08-13 08:51:48 PM  

WTF Indeed: That's one dumb-ass honkie.


Dude, "honkie" is not the preferred nomenclature - "white devil", please.
 
2014-08-13 08:52:54 PM  
Jesus doesn't like it when you lie, Kevin.
 
2014-08-13 08:53:46 PM  
LOL! He troll U!
 
2014-08-13 08:57:43 PM  

jayhawk88: Jesus doesn't like it when you lie, Kevin.


Jesus be like Tupac. He dead, craaacka.
 
2014-08-13 08:58:38 PM  

Snarfangel: Doktor_Zhivago: calling black people monkeys is totes coolsies because we're all just chimpanzees that walk upright amirite my white bros?

I'm more of a bonobo.


I've always thought of myself as a common squirrel monkey.

upload.wikimedia.org

I'm soft and I like to pee on trees.
 
2014-08-13 09:11:43 PM  
www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-08-13 09:16:45 PM  

chitownmike: SnakeLee: His defense was: "Williamson defended his piece, arguing that humans are "primates" so the reference wasn't offensive."

In response to this: "'Hey, hey craaaaaacka! Cracka!White devil! F*** you, white devil!" The guy looks remarkably like Snoop Dogg: skinny enough for a Vogue advertisement, lean-faced with a wry expression, long braids. He glances slyly from side to side, making sure his audience is taking all this in, before raising his palms to his clavicles, elbows akimbo, in the universal gesture of primate territorial challenge."

The classic right wing ploy of addressing one small part of a larger piece and cutting all context out, then forcing you to graphically explain the entire situation long form as if they don't know what they did wrong, by which point nobody cares anymore.

who is the first sentence of the second quote attributed to?


Someone summarizing his Twitter posts, since his initial "apologies" have been taken deleted.  Now he is just retweeting random people attacking him
 
2014-08-13 09:27:00 PM  
Why do we let conservatives get away with their racism because language is a slippery thing?
 
2014-08-13 09:29:34 PM  

Wyalt Derp: WTF Indeed: That's one dumb-ass honkie.

Dude, "honkie" is not the preferred nomenclature - "white devil", please.


If you are referring to the baka gaijin, I will accept "White Devil" only if you are a Five Percenter. Let us not steal from the Nation of Islam, or the Nation of Gods and Earths. While I happen to disagree on their theory that the original people were Asiatic black folk, I will not sully their term for crazy ass white folks when my own ancestors had their own terms. Let us be fair, and let the Five Percent Nation have their own moments of rage. Preferably well and away from me and mine.
 
2014-08-13 09:33:33 PM  

PeopleFood: Why do we let conservatives get away with their racism because language is a slippery thing?


Conservatives get away with racism because many conservatives are racist and so happily believe racist things because they aren't smart enough to see through those arguments. Everything else is just a poor veil to hide their obviously stupid and racist ideology.
 
2014-08-13 09:40:27 PM  
News flash, people are hominids. Hominids are one of the families of extant primates. We're all psychotic, hairless apes and that's somehow offensive.

/ I guess we're tangerines now
 
2014-08-13 09:41:40 PM  

odinsposse: PeopleFood: Why do we let conservatives get away with their racism because language is a slippery thing?

Conservatives get away with racism because many conservatives are racist and so happily believe racist things because they aren't smart enough to see through those arguments. Everything else is just a poor veil to hide their obviously stupid and racist ideology.


You said racist three times. You must really like racist.
 
2014-08-13 09:41:55 PM  

WTF Indeed: That's one dumb-ass honkie.


fo shizzle

just wondering, and not specific to this situation but generally; if you say someone looks like a primate, and they actually do look like a primate, is that still racist?
 
2014-08-13 09:51:31 PM  

PeopleFood: Why do we let conservatives get away with their racism because language is a slippery thing?


How is he getting away with it? He is being called out. There is a Fark thread about him.
 
2014-08-13 09:51:56 PM  

SnakeLee: His defense was: "Williamson defended his piece, arguing that humans are "primates" so the reference wasn't offensive."


So at least he must be OK with evolution then.

/it's a start....
 
2014-08-13 09:53:27 PM  
So does National Review not have an editor who proofs this shait before it gets posted?  You know, someone with above a room-temperature IQ who understands that referring to black people as primates might be a bad idea?
 
2014-08-13 09:54:34 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: SnakeLee: His defense was: "Williamson defended his piece, arguing that humans are "primates" so the reference wasn't offensive."

So at least he must be OK with evolution then.

/it's a start....


Yeah, but now he's offended the readership of National Review.  "I ain't come from no monkey!"
 
2014-08-13 09:55:03 PM  
divide by zero...

Does this mean he supports and believes in evolution?
 
2014-08-13 09:55:06 PM  
A racist conservative? No farking way.

/ rolls eyes
 
2014-08-13 10:00:32 PM  
When Gov. George Wallace said, "Segregation now etc."  you knew where he stood. He had the courage -- such as it was -- of his convictions. Today, the creeps no longer have the courage of their creepiness.  They want to snark in front of a protected audience, but flinch in public. In a way, that's good. They realize they've done something wrong. Their consciences -- such as they are -- still pipe up from time to time.
 
2014-08-13 10:01:43 PM  
img.fark.net

About 200 thousand years ago, Anatomically Modern Homo Sapiens Sapiens emerged. At that time we had to compete with several other Hominid species. Today, we are all that's left. The other Hominids went extinct.

The funny part is, Black Africans are the purest Homo Sapiens Sapiens. The rest of us are up to 20-30% mixed with Neanderthals, Denisovans, and three or four other archaic Hominids.

So, when you wanna feel superior, remember this: The other species failed.
Makes ya' think, don't it
 
2014-08-13 10:03:52 PM  

odinsposse: PeopleFood: Why do we let conservatives get away with their racism because language is a slippery thing?

Conservatives get away with racism because many conservatives are racist and so happily believe racist things because they aren't smart enough to see through those arguments. Everything else is just a poor veil to hide their obviously stupid and racist ideology.


Essentially they are like a bunch of children who think they are putting something past everyone else, when their "codes" are ridiculously easy to crack.

/and we're the real racists for noticing.
 
2014-08-13 10:06:50 PM  

KenShabby: HMS_Blinkin: SnakeLee: His defense was: "Williamson defended his piece, arguing that humans are "primates" so the reference wasn't offensive."

So at least he must be OK with evolution then.

/it's a start....

Yeah, but now he's offended the readership of National Review.  "I ain't come from no monkey!"


Just further proof that if you follow conservative "logic" far enough, it eventually starts to conflict with itself.
 
2014-08-13 10:07:08 PM  
Shouldn't militia groups be flocking to Ferguson, to protect people from the tyranny of the state?
 
2014-08-13 10:07:13 PM  

tinyarena: [img.fark.net image 249x190]

About 200 thousand years ago, Anatomically Modern Homo Sapiens Sapiens emerged. At that time we had to compete with several other Hominid species. Today, we are all that's left. The other Hominids went extinct.

The funny part is, Black Africans are the purest Homo Sapiens Sapiens. The rest of us are up to 20-30% mixed with Neanderthals, Denisovans, and three or four other archaic Hominids.

So, when you wanna feel superior, remember this: The other species failed.
Makes ya' think, don't it


h.sapien looks like Willem Dafoe.
 
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