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(The Local)   Hospital staff pro tip: There are many ways to ease a woman's pain while she is giving birth. Injecting a strong neurotoxic disinfectant directly into her nervous system is not one of them   (thelocal.se) divider line 80
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2014-08-14 12:10:52 AM  
That is horrifying.
 
2014-08-14 12:12:21 AM  
Labeling is very serious in my work.  You check the label when you pull the stuff off the shelf.  You check that the container weighs the same as when someone else put it back on the shelf.  You make sure all of the numbers match between what is on the container and what is on the paperwork.  I don't work with human patients but that kind of mistake would be a serious mark on my record.
 
2014-08-14 01:09:31 AM  

granolasteak: That is horrifying.


This... is an understatement.
 
2014-08-14 01:11:11 AM  
Proper use of the fail tag.


/+1 subby
 
2014-08-14 01:13:47 AM  
And everyone says our healthcare system in the US is farked up!
 
2014-08-14 01:14:23 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Proper use of the fail tag.


/+1 subby


Way to set the bar there.
 
2014-08-14 01:19:16 AM  

brimed03: granolasteak: That is horrifying.

This... is an understatement.


No shiat.  That's way worse than what almost happened when I kept my paprika and ground cayenne pepper next to each other on the spice rack.
 
2014-08-14 01:19:41 AM  
Wtf... seriously... wtf! chlorhexidine typically has some sort of color to it (blue or green) I work hospital pharmacy I've made epidurals before. .. they are clear and don't smell like cleaning solution.
 
2014-08-14 01:22:37 AM  
It looked just like Skinny & Sweet!
 
2014-08-14 01:25:30 AM  
This is a good option when trying to escape a state mental hospital, and you need to get to your son, but you are not supposed to actually inject it, and kill the hostage.
 
2014-08-14 01:25:44 AM  
Oh christ that makes my back squirm just thinking about it. Getting a shot in the spine is already wiggy enough, but having the damn thing filled with basically bleach instead of medicine is just insane.
 
2014-08-14 01:33:31 AM  

4NTLRZ: And everyone says our healthcare system in the US is farked up!


Hey, at least she didn't die

/nurse in Seattle
//story is legend in healthcare circles around here
///not my hospital thank FSM
 
2014-08-14 01:34:08 AM  

4NTLRZ: And everyone says our healthcare system in the US is farked up!


Oh, I can tell you plenty of horrifying stories from the U.S. healthcare system. Should I start with the people who get the wrong limbs amputated or the many people set on fire during surgery?
 
2014-08-14 01:35:16 AM  
It kills your brain last

cps-static.rovicorp.com

I don't mind!
 
2014-08-14 01:36:41 AM  
You wouldn't think they'd be stored in the same place, so how does cleaner get mixed up with pain killers? What are the odds that someone switched them on purpose?
 
2014-08-14 01:38:19 AM  

supayoda: 4NTLRZ: And everyone says our healthcare system in the US is farked up!

Oh, I can tell you plenty of horrifying stories from the U.S. healthcare system. Should I start with the people who get the wrong limbs amputated or the many people set on fire during surgery?


malcolm-mania.com
 
2014-08-14 02:02:38 AM  
www.rts.ch

/Probably posting in this thread.
 
2014-08-14 02:05:24 AM  

jtown: brimed03: granolasteak: That is horrifying.

This... is an understatement.

No shiat.  That's way worse than what almost happened when I kept my paprika and ground cayenne pepper next to each other on the spice rack.


I dunno, it could have been almost equally as bad, depending on what you were seasoning.
 
2014-08-14 02:05:29 AM  
Even epidurals given properly are bad.  Nearly half the deliveries where epidurals were used, end up in C-Sections due to baby's going into distress.
 
2014-08-14 02:08:27 AM  
A woman in Australia received chlorhexidene instead of the proper epidural.
There seems to be a world wide problem of this happening.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2011/06/29/epidural-tragedy-mum-s pe aks-out
 
2014-08-14 02:18:14 AM  
How the fark does this even happen?

Chlorhexidine containers do not even look like something that is an injectable drug vial.

The Southern Dandy: Even epidurals given properly are bad.  Nearly half the deliveries where epidurals were used, end up in C-Sections due to baby's going into distress.


Do you have any literature backing up that statement? AFAIA, complications of childbirth related to the epidural are less than 4%, and are far safer than the use of systemic pain medication or inhalational anesthesia.
 
2014-08-14 02:19:13 AM  
What the hell kind of container is chlorhexidine being kept in that is getting it confused with medications for injection?
 
2014-08-14 02:27:32 AM  
www.gonemovies.com
 
2014-08-14 02:27:44 AM  

supayoda: Oh, I can tell you plenty of horrifying stories from the U.S. healthcare system. Should I start with the people who get the wrong limbs amputated or the many people set on fire during surgery?


In San Jose years ago they cut the wrong guys pee pee off.
 
2014-08-14 02:35:49 AM  
This is why you don't come in acting like a biatch....

$20 bucks says she pissed off the wrong nurse...
 
2014-08-14 02:40:43 AM  

hardinparamedic: How the fark does this even happen?

Chlorhexidine containers do not even look like something that is an injectable drug vial.

The Southern Dandy: Even epidurals given properly are bad.  Nearly half the deliveries where epidurals were used, end up in C-Sections due to baby's going into distress.

Do you have any literature backing up that statement? AFAIA, complications of childbirth related to the epidural are less than 4%, and are far safer than the use of systemic pain medication or inhalational anesthesia.


You and your facts.  You can use facts to prove anything that's even  remotely true.
 
2014-08-14 02:45:05 AM  
In the CVS I used to work for back in the day a child was given amoxicillin mixed with alcohol instead of water
 
2014-08-14 02:45:12 AM  
In UK, they accidently injected a glue into a girl brain. It turned out that the hospital did not label medicinal  vials and so terrible mix up happened.
 
2014-08-14 02:46:24 AM  

The Southern Dandy: Even epidurals given properly are bad.  Nearly half the deliveries where epidurals were used, end up in C-Sections due to baby's going into distress.


Actually, they end in c-sections because the mother is too numb to push the baby out before the 24-hr window of time it takes after the water breaks that they start to worry about infection setting in. The most common side effect of epidurals is chronic back pain.
 
2014-08-14 02:48:05 AM  

Warmnight: In UK, they accidently injected a glue into a girl brain.


Did it make her slow?
 
2014-08-14 02:56:02 AM  

zerkalo: It kills your brain last

[cps-static.rovicorp.com image 519x800]

I don't mind!


38.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-14 02:57:47 AM  

FLoridaDon: This is why you don't come in acting like a biatch....

$20 bucks says she pissed off the wrong nurse...


If there is anyone who is going to have sympathy for a person's lack of ettiquite during labor it's a delivery nurse.  Seriously, being in labor makes a woman biatchy.  That is just part of the process. If you aren't angry and pissed off during labor you aren't gonna have the umpf to push an 8lb flesh bag out of your cooch.
 
2014-08-14 03:07:37 AM  

gibbon1: supayoda: Oh, I can tell you plenty of horrifying stories from the U.S. healthcare system. Should I start with the people who get the wrong limbs amputated or the many people set on fire during surgery?

In San Jose years ago they cut the wrong guys pee pee off.


Could be worse.
37.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-14 03:26:09 AM  
Robin Williams' Still-Warm Body:

Too soon dude, too soon ..... :)
 
2014-08-14 03:27:58 AM  

jtown: You and your facts.  You can use facts to prove anything that's even  remotely true.


thebyronicmandotcom2.files.wordpress.com

Well your honor, I have plenty of hearsay and conjecture. And this book I was reading says those are KINDS of evidence...
 
2014-08-14 03:28:38 AM  

Robin Williams' Still-Warm Body: At least her baby wasn't infected.


Couldn't even wait till he got to room temperature, could you?
 
2014-08-14 03:42:11 AM  

hardinparamedic: Robin Williams' Still-Warm Body: At least her baby wasn't infected.

Couldn't even wait till he got to room temperature, could you?


Did you see how hairy that dude was? That could take forever.
 
2014-08-14 03:44:37 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: hardinparamedic: Robin Williams' Still-Warm Body: At least her baby wasn't infected.

Couldn't even wait till he got to room temperature, could you?

Did you see how hairy that dude was? That could take forever.


i.chzbgr.com

I'm laughing harder at this than I should.
 
2014-08-14 04:12:24 AM  

Dictatorial_Flair: Did you see how hairy that dude was? That could take forever.


What happened he was standing on a ladder trying change a light bulb, caught his arm hair on the decorative chandelier slipped and knocked the ladder over and, well I tried.
 
2014-08-14 04:23:25 AM  

gibbon1: Dictatorial_Flair: Did you see how hairy that dude was? That could take forever.

What happened he was standing on a ladder trying change a light bulb, caught his arm hair on the decorative chandelier slipped and knocked the ladder over and, well I tried.


I still think he was choking and stroking, and the personal assistant that found him made it out to look like a suicide.
 
2014-08-14 04:34:10 AM  
i.imgur.com

Homer: "Liability waiver?"
Nurse: "Don't read it, just sign it. It simply says you won't hold us responsible if you die as a result of gross negligence.
 
2014-08-14 04:45:47 AM  
After one of my many operations, the gas passer came in. I thought it was strange because you hardly ever see them after the surgery. He asked me if I remember the operating room. I said that I did. He asked if I remember it before they wheeled me out. I said no. He then tells me that I sat up and looked around. I must not have given me enough of theb paralitic.

My father-in-law had it worse. He woke up right after the surgery, but could not move. He tried to talk, but nothing happened. He told us that the guys that put him in the bed tossed him around like a sack of potatoes.
 
2014-08-14 05:05:06 AM  
I'm getting a kick out of this since I, right now, am at the hospital sitting next to my wife who has been in labour since 7pm last night.
/0_o
 
2014-08-14 05:24:11 AM  

That Kid Tony Stewart Ran Over: hardinparamedic: Robin Williams' Still-Warm Body: At least her baby wasn't infected.

Couldn't even wait till he got to room temperature, could you?

Oh I've got worse.


LOL
 
2014-08-14 05:38:24 AM  

TheLondonLook: The Southern Dandy: Even epidurals given properly are bad.  Nearly half the deliveries where epidurals were used, end up in C-Sections due to baby's going into distress.

Actually, they end in c-sections because the mother is too numb to push the baby out before the 24-hr window of time it takes after the water breaks that they start to worry about infection setting in. The most common side effect of epidurals is chronic back pain.


Well, the back pain bit is bullshiat. I'll find support that the c-section bit is also bullshiat in a little while.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9356101
 
2014-08-14 06:30:39 AM  

Firthoffourth: I'm getting a kick out of this since I, right now, am at the hospital sitting next to my wife who has been in labour since 7pm last night.
/0_o


Congradts! I know how she feels. I was in labour for46 hours with my first one. He is going to be a father in January.
 
2014-08-14 07:05:19 AM  
Damn you would think that a big white plastic container with
pbs.twimg.com
on it would be a clue to not use it in a goddammed epidural!

Or maybe this would tip you off?
www.clipartbest.com
 
2014-08-14 07:14:24 AM  

supayoda: You wouldn't think they'd be stored in the same place, so how does cleaner get mixed up with pain killers? What are the odds that someone switched them on purpose?


How the hell could that possibly mistake the two containers? That's the bigger questions.

Something is missing from the link. I suspect there was just a small amount of the cleaning solution left in the equipment.
 
2014-08-14 07:27:18 AM  

hardinparamedic: How the fark does this even happen?

Chlorhexidine containers do not even look like something that is an injectable drug vial.

The Southern Dandy: Even epidurals given properly are bad.  Nearly half the deliveries where epidurals were used, end up in C-Sections due to baby's going into distress.

Do you have any literature backing up that statement? AFAIA, complications of childbirth related to the epidural are less than 4%, and are far safer than the use of systemic pain medication or inhalational anesthesia.


Medications in the OR are taken out of their containers and dosed into separate vials, all labeled and set aside for surgery. It's up to the scrub tech and the nurses to make sure the liquid is labeled properly. But even if something IS labeled properly, it doesn't mean that someone won't draw from the wrong vial.  It's up to everyone paying attention and speaking out if they see something that doesn't look right, and doctors tend to be arrogant and angry even when completely wrong.
Now add sleep fatigue and 12 hours shifts for everyone. 500 people a day die due to mistakes like this.
 
2014-08-14 07:54:44 AM  

ChuckRoddy: Medications in the OR are taken out of their containers and dosed into separate vials, all labeled and set aside for surgery. It's up to the scrub tech and the nurses to make sure the liquid is labeled properly. But even if something IS labeled properly, it doesn't mean that someone won't draw from the wrong vial.  It's up to everyone paying attention and speaking out if they see something that doesn't look right, and doctors tend to be arrogant and angry even when completely wrong.


That's not an explanation - engineering and negligence doesn't fit here with what we know about the way CHX is stored. I am quite aware of how medications are prepared by an anesthesiologist, pharmacist, or scrub nurse, However chlorahexadine is not kept in anything that would appear to be an injectable drug ampule or vial - it's either in pre-packaged swabs, specially designed single use applicators, or a large bottle which looks like a shampoo container. It also would not be in a form of application which could be screwed into the luer hub of a spinal needle or epidural catheter.

This was either utter incompetence, or maliciously done. While I am not one to generally blame maleficence over ignorance and engineering, there is really few explanations.

ChuckRoddy: 500 PEOPLE a day die due to mistakes like this.


No, they don't. Even the number 82,500/year as proposed by the ISMP study in 1999 was considered dubious as they included "nosocomial and iatrogenic death" as late diagnosis of diseases such as cancer, infections, and predictable side effects of medication as contributing causes. Your number puts iatrogenic death at 182,500 per year, which would put it as the third cause of death in the US.

Actual direct iatrogenic death, as tracked by the CDC, is ranked around 2000/yr. Which is still unacceptable.

A cursory google search to support that number only brings up...ahem dubious sources, at best, to tenably support the claim - such as Mercola and NaturalNews.

It is, however, a favorite talking point of altmed and medical conspiracy theorists.
 
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