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(NYPost)   Remember that wreck last year that Tony Stewart got hurt in? Yeah, he caused that wreck and broke the back of another competitor whose family wants him banned from racing for life   (nypost.com) divider line 147
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2014-08-13 09:45:39 AM
In this article: person with ax to grind grinds ax.
 
2014-08-13 09:51:16 AM
Therefore he is guilty of murder and Sarah Palin is president.
 
2014-08-13 10:20:11 AM
NASCAR hothead Tony Stewart nearly killed a female driver last year on the same track where he mowed down a rival Saturday


now THAT'S how you write a tabloid lede.
 
2014-08-13 10:26:19 AM

FlashHarry: NASCAR hothead Tony Stewart nearly killed a female driver last year on the same track where he mowed down a rival Saturday


now THAT'S how you write a tabloid lede.


Agreed. This is not responsible journalism. From the looks of the article, they didn't even attempt to get a response from Stewart's camp.
 
2014-08-13 10:27:58 AM
He's a farking asshole, so deal with it.
 
2014-08-13 10:59:11 AM
Won't happen. Money talks bullshiat walks.
 
2014-08-13 10:59:58 AM
When did journalism devolve to asking almost random people, with little to no expertise on the subject at hand, their opinion on a topic?
 
2014-08-13 11:00:13 AM
Remove all asshole drivers from Nascar, you're left with Jamie McMurray and..... hmm. No one? That sounds like a rather dull race.
 
2014-08-13 11:00:30 AM
New York Post.

NOPE
 
2014-08-13 11:04:07 AM

FirstNationalBastard: In this article: person with ax to grind grinds ax.


This.

FlashHarry: NASCAR hothead Tony Stewart nearly killed a female driver last year on the same track where he mowed down a rival Saturday

now THAT'S how you write a tabloid lede.


And that!  Turn off the lights on the way out, folks.  This thread is done.
 
2014-08-13 11:05:13 AM
Let's discuss what we all clearly saw on the video.  As Tony Stewart was driving in the complete dark and likely thinking of all the charity work he was going to do for sick kids at the hospital, a drunk and enraged hillbilly charged out of the dark like a scene from Deliverance.  Tony tried with all his might to avoid him, but the savage beast threw himself under the wheels like a dog chasing a car.  Everybody there was horrified at what he put poor Tony through, but that's the risk you take when you spend time with these backwoods country folk.
 
2014-08-13 11:13:02 AM
And he's fat. It's a miracle he can fit in a race car.
 
2014-08-13 11:14:15 AM
Let's discuss what we all clearly saw on the video.  Well known hothead and aggressive bully Tony Stewart was recklessly charging around the dark in his souped up hot rod from hell.  As he rounded the corner he spotted local-boy-done-good Kevin Ward Jr.  Upon seeing the earnestness and ambition of this fresh-faced kid, he revved up his engine and crushed the hard-working challenger asunder the wheels of his high-powered deathmobile.  It's pretty cut and dried.
 
2014-08-13 11:14:43 AM
I have seen no evidence that proves Stewart is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
2014-08-13 11:16:00 AM
Can we just copy/paste the other 4 threads? It would be easier:

"You don't know anything about racing!"

"Yes I do!"

"No you don't!"

"Yuh-huh!"

"Nuh-uh!"
 
2014-08-13 11:18:23 AM
Crashing and killing is racing, boy!
 
2014-08-13 11:19:29 AM

QueenMamaBee: Remove all asshole drivers from Nascar, you're left with Jamie McMurray and..... hmm. No one? That sounds like a rather dull race.


Eh, McMurray could still find a way to cause a wreck.
 
2014-08-13 11:20:44 AM

mattador: QueenMamaBee: Remove all asshole drivers from Nascar, you're left with Jamie McMurray and..... hmm. No one? That sounds like a rather dull race.

Eh, McMurray could still find a way to cause a wreck.


Hmm. I'd watch that.

Hey, give him Knaus as a crew chief and he could still cheat despite being the only one on the track.
 
2014-08-13 11:22:26 AM

Enlightened Liberal: When did journalism devolve to asking almost random people, with little to no expertise on the subject at hand, their opinion on a topic?


Since man first learned to write. At no time has journalism been anything different. You yearn for an age that never was.
 
2014-08-13 11:23:03 AM
They even say "kin" in the headline.

Bless their Appalachian journalist hearts.

And now to Merle, with an hour-long livestock report.
 
2014-08-13 11:25:31 AM

ArkAngel: FlashHarry: NASCAR hothead Tony Stewart nearly killed a female driver last year on the same track where he mowed down a rival Saturday


now THAT'S how you write a tabloid lede.

Agreed. This is not responsible journalism.


His entire gimmick is that he's a hothead. People aren't supposed to say it now that he's killed someone?
 
2014-08-13 11:27:36 AM
Just stay in the f#cking car during a caution, people. It's not rocket science.
 
2014-08-13 11:29:28 AM

Enlightened Liberal: When did journalism devolve to asking almost random people, with little to no expertise on the subject at hand, their opinion on a topic?


www.newscorpse.com
 
2014-08-13 11:29:39 AM

Promo Sapien: They even say "kin" in the headline.

Bless their Appalachian journalist hearts.

And now to Merle, with an hour-long livestock report.


That's because kin is the correct word

see: next of kin
 
2014-08-13 11:33:42 AM

cretinbob: Promo Sapien: They even say "kin" in the headline.

Bless their Appalachian journalist hearts.

And now to Merle, with an hour-long livestock report.

That's because kin is the correct word

see: next of kin


It is a grammatically correct term. I certainly don't dispute that.  But maybe, using a word like "relatives" or "family" might do a little more to dispel the myth of NASCAR and sub-par education going hand-in-hand.
 
2014-08-13 11:35:18 AM

Enlightened Liberal: When did journalism devolve to asking almost random people, with little to no expertise on the subject at hand, their opinion on a topic?


Unfamiliar with the NY Post, are we?
 
2014-08-13 11:48:56 AM
I have zero experience with car racing, but today I heard what's probable is that Stewart tried to intimidate Ward by throttling up and rooster-tailing his car so as to spray dirt on him and it went horribly wrong. Is that a reasonable assumption?

DRTFA.
 
2014-08-13 11:55:41 AM

Wadded Beef: I have zero experience with car racing, but today I heard what's probable is that Stewart tried to intimidate Ward by throttling up and rooster-tailing his car so as to spray dirt on him and it went horribly wrong. Is that a reasonable assumption?

DRTFA.


No.

These cars steer with the throttle a vast majority of the time - at best, the actual steering wheel is there for fine tuning that steering. If Stewart throttled up - and mind you, that's based off of the crappy amateur video taken which, in all likelihood, picked up other cars directly near it and not Stewart's car specifically - it would have been in combination with turning the wheel to rotate the car and further point it in a direction away from Ward.
 
2014-08-13 11:56:33 AM

Promo Sapien: cretinbob: Promo Sapien: They even say "kin" in the headline.

Bless their Appalachian journalist hearts.

And now to Merle, with an hour-long livestock report.

That's because kin is the correct word

see: next of kin

It is a grammatically correct term. I certainly don't dispute that.  But maybe, using a word like "relatives" or "family" might do a little more to dispel the myth of NASCAR and sub-par education going hand-in-hand.


Kin is an English word. Not southern slang.
 
2014-08-13 11:58:18 AM

HotWingConspiracy: ArkAngel: FlashHarry: NASCAR hothead Tony Stewart nearly killed a female driver last year on the same track where he mowed down a rival Saturday


now THAT'S how you write a tabloid lede.

Agreed. This is not responsible journalism.

His entire gimmick is that he's a hothead. People aren't supposed to say it now that he's killed someone?


Just because he has a history of violence and aggression doesn't mean he has a history of violence and aggression.
 
2014-08-13 12:02:45 PM

Russ1642: Promo Sapien: cretinbob: Promo Sapien: They even say "kin" in the headline.

Bless their Appalachian journalist hearts.

And now to Merle, with an hour-long livestock report.

That's because kin is the correct word

see: next of kin

It is a grammatically correct term. I certainly don't dispute that.  But maybe, using a word like "relatives" or "family" might do a little more to dispel the myth of NASCAR and sub-par education going hand-in-hand.

Kin is an English word. Not southern slang.


Okay, then, apparently nobody else here associates "kin" with Southern slang.  My mistake.  Let's learn from this, and move on.
 
2014-08-13 12:04:38 PM

Wadded Beef: I have zero experience with car racing, but today I heard what's probable is that Stewart tried to intimidate Ward by throttling up and rooster-tailing his car so as to spray dirt on him and it went horribly wrong. Is that a reasonable assumption?

DRTFA.


Is it an assumption? Yes. Is it reasonable? Hell no. 

First, he very likely (like in the neighborhood around 100%) didn't see him until he hit him. Second, one doesn't do that in a sprint car, as they are, even on caution laps, barely controlled. Not to mention the fact that the cars were still slowing down (the accident that put Ward in the wall was no more than 27 seconds before he was hit). The car in front of Stewart barely missed the kid. Stewart had even less time to react, especially since the kid was walking down even more onto the track.

This fatality was caused by the dead kid. Wearing a black firesuit, black helmet, walking onto the dark area of a dirt track at the exit to a corner to confront a driver who most likely can't even see you is a recipe for car-assisted suicide.
 
2014-08-13 12:07:26 PM
The only thing worse than all the arseholes that know nothing about auto racing offering up their opinions and conjecture, is all the arseholes that know about auto racing offering up their opinions and conjecture.  It's one thing to be wrong, it's quite another to be wrong AND condescending.
 
2014-08-13 12:07:34 PM
Hey, who here remembers when ESPN used to run a show called Thursday Night Thunder? They used to actually broadcast these cars racing on TV! It was awesome but hard to follow because there is action all over the track. Anyway, if I had a nickle for every wreck I would have approximately 1.6 metric assloads of nickles.

Seriously. Some of the 15 lap qualifiers would take an hour to get through because of the need to clear all of the debris. If you have never watched midgets or TQs or sprint cars race I suggest you find out where the nearest track is and go sometime. It's probably some of the most exciting racing you will ever see.
 
2014-08-13 12:08:52 PM

ArkAngel: FlashHarry: NASCAR hothead Tony Stewart nearly killed a female driver last year on the same track where he mowed down a rival Saturday


now THAT'S how you write a tabloid lede.

Agreed. This is not responsible journalism.


This is the NY Post, part of Rupert Murdoch's muckraking News Corp...and you're expecting responsible journalism from them?
 
2014-08-13 12:11:56 PM
Why does everyone in these threads feel the need to go to the ends of the earth to defend Tony Stewart after he killed someone?  I wish I knew the fascination with this guy.
 
2014-08-13 12:15:11 PM

erupt2001: Why does everyone in these threads feel the need to go to the ends of the earth to defend Tony Stewart after he killed someone?  I wish I knew the fascination with this guy.


thank god is wasn't Danica. can you imagine?  *shudder*  all the mansplaining there is already, combined with the dislike of her?  the mind reels.
 
2014-08-13 12:19:10 PM

Promo Sapien: They even say "kin" in the headline.

Bless their Appalachian journalist hearts.

And now to Merle, with an hour-long livestock report.


That's some next-level trolling by the Post, right there.
 
2014-08-13 12:20:42 PM

Rapmaster2000: Let's discuss what we all clearly saw on the video.  Well known hothead and aggressive bully Tony Stewart was recklessly charging around the dark in his souped up hot rod from hell.  As he rounded the corner he spotted local-boy-done-good Kevin Ward Jr.  Upon seeing the earnestness and ambition of this fresh-faced kid, he revved up his engine and crushed the hard-working challenger asunder the wheels of his high-powered deathmobile.  It's pretty cut and dried.


Well, he sure didn't make any move to avoid him.

I think this was a tragic incident caused by two adrenaline-junkie douchebags. I think the blame falls a little on each side. But I see no reason why the seasoned vet, after teaching the young buck a lesson, couldn't have swerved to avoid him like a grown-up would have done.
 
2014-08-13 12:24:44 PM
Early in the video, when the car crashes out, you can not hear the crash at all. When cars hit barriers, flip, and land hard, it's going to be pretty loud. I think we probably have all heard the sound of a car accident before. In the video, you hear nothing. Is that not a good indication that the audio on the video is not good and can really only pick up sounds accurately in the immediate vicinity of the camera. So, this assertion that it is and can only be his car making the engine noses at a track filled with other race cars is quite a stretch.

I will say, after reading this article and others like it, it seems that all of the spectators at that venue do not like Tony Stewart.  It seems they want to hang him not only for this latest incident, but also from the crash last year. I think it was a bad move on his part racing there in the first place since they all want to see him fall.

The thing is, nobody has ever said that Auto Racing is safe. Cars crash all the time and hundreds of people have died over the years because of it. Your little snowflake didn't break her back because someone caused a wreck on a race track. No, your encouragement to participate in a dangerous sport, and her decision to strap her self into the race car is why she is permanently injured. The risk and the danger is why people do it, and it's why people watch it. This isn't shuffle board, there are risks. Get over it.

And before you say that's not why people watch it, it's because they want to see good racing, think about what good racing is. Wheel to wheel action where each driver is on the edge of control trying to outperform the next guy. The slightest error could end in disaster. The suspense of watching a brilliant overtake is from the risk and the danger.
 
2014-08-13 12:25:58 PM

Old_Chief_Scott: Hey, who here remembers when ESPN used to run a show called Thursday Night Thunder? They used to actually broadcast these cars racing on TV! It was awesome but hard to follow because there is action all over the track. Anyway, if I had a nickle for every wreck I would have approximately 1.6 metric assloads of nickles.

Seriously. Some of the 15 lap qualifiers would take an hour to get through because of the need to clear all of the debris. If you have never watched midgets or TQs or sprint cars race I suggest you find out where the nearest track is and go sometime. It's probably some of the most exciting racing you will ever see.


I remember that show. I'm pretty sure I also remember seeing a driver get killed one night on that show. He was just racing along, and wrecked, and he got dead.

Yep, I did. Google tells me his name was Rich Vogler.
 
2014-08-13 12:26:25 PM
If you look at the vid of the incident in slo mo, it looks like Ward is grabbing onto the wing of Tonys car to hitch a ride and yell at him, he probably made a bad decision.
 
2014-08-13 12:29:07 PM

erupt2001: Why does everyone in these threads feel the need to go to the ends of the earth to defend Tony Stewart after he killed someone?  I wish I knew the fascination with this guy.


There will be people who are biased one way or another, and there will also be people trying to be objective.

How do you know who is who unless you have your own bias.
 
2014-08-13 12:32:39 PM

erupt2001: Why does everyone in these threads feel the need to go to the ends of the earth to defend Tony Stewart after he killed someone?  I wish I knew the fascination with this guy.


He drives a car in a circle really fast!  What's not to love?
 
2014-08-13 12:33:33 PM

Giltric: If you look at the vid of the incident in slo mo, it looks like Ward is grabbing onto the wing of Tonys car to hitch a ride and yell at him, he probably made a bad decision.


It looked to me like he was trying to jump out of the way last second and didn't make it, not that he was trying to grab hold.
 
2014-08-13 12:35:01 PM

Chris Ween: Giltric: If you look at the vid of the incident in slo mo, it looks like Ward is grabbing onto the wing of Tonys car to hitch a ride and yell at him, he probably made a bad decision.

It looked to me like he was trying to jump out of the way last second and didn't make it, not that he was trying to grab hold.


And the kid was so focused on Tony that he doesnt notice the blue and white car that he had to dodge.
 
2014-08-13 12:37:10 PM

Giltric: Chris Ween: Giltric: If you look at the vid of the incident in slo mo, it looks like Ward is grabbing onto the wing of Tonys car to hitch a ride and yell at him, he probably made a bad decision.

It looked to me like he was trying to jump out of the way last second and didn't make it, not that he was trying to grab hold.

And the kid was so focused on Tony that he doesnt notice the blue and white car that he had to dodge.


I agree with that.
 
2014-08-13 12:37:14 PM
Why does everyone in these threads feel the need to go to the ends of the earth to defend Tony Stewart after he killed someone?  I wish I knew the fascination with this guy.


Because people want him banned for racing or arrested for an accident. It's stupid.
 
2014-08-13 12:37:25 PM

QueenMamaBee: Remove all asshole drivers from Nascar, you're left with Jamie McMurray and..... hmm. No one? That sounds like a rather dull race.


Don't forget Junior!
 
2014-08-13 12:40:35 PM

erupt2001: Why does everyone in these threads feel the need to go to the ends of the earth to defend Tony Stewart after he killed someone?  I wish I knew the fascination with this guy.


I don't watch NASCAR and I could care less about Stewart, but I watched the video and it was the dumbass kid's fault he got killed. Stewart had other things to pay attention to on the track (The turn, the car in front of him, the rescue vehicles) and in all likelihood didn't see the dumbass until it was too late.

Why are you so anxious to pillory Stewart?
 
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