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(Slate)   Ah, NASCAR, where killing someone on a racetrack means you probably don't have to lose any sponsors   (slate.com ) divider line
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2014-08-12 01:47:22 PM  
I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.
 
2014-08-12 01:50:45 PM  

liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.


Yeah. If I jumped off the roof of a building, and broke both of my legs, I don't think I would blame the ground for breaking my legs.
 
2014-08-12 02:03:21 PM  

liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.


I don't know - every other driver had no problem not only missing him, but giving him a far greater amount of room as they passed.

That said, they all would have missed him had he just stayed in the damn car.
 
2014-08-12 02:24:24 PM  

vartian: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

I don't know - every other driver had no problem not only missing him, but giving him a far greater amount of room as they passed.

That said, they all would have missed him had he just stayed in the damn car.


That is because he was going for Tony's car. When he saw it he went for it like a dumb ass.
 
2014-08-12 02:32:15 PM  

vartian: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

I don't know - every other driver had no problem not only missing him, but giving him a far greater amount of room as they passed.

That said, they all would have missed him had he just stayed in the damn car.


He wasn't running right at every other car either...
 
2014-08-12 02:55:09 PM  
Just a sign of things to come.
 
2014-08-12 02:57:47 PM  
It's not like one of his sponsors gave him a decal of a little stick figure man with red line diagonally crossing him to put beneath the driver's side window on his car.
 
2014-08-12 03:06:17 PM  

liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.


"where committing suicide on the racetrack loses you all of your sponsors!!"
 
2014-08-12 03:06:44 PM  
People don't watch that crap for the exciting left turns. The crowd wants carnage.
 
2014-08-12 03:07:38 PM  

queezyweezel: vartian: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

I don't know - every other driver had no problem not only missing him, but giving him a far greater amount of room as they passed.

That said, they all would have missed him had he just stayed in the damn car.

He wasn't running right at every other car either...


and the car that had to SWERVE to avoid him was probably completely blocking the sight lines of the car that hit him.

asshole raging on the track while committing suicide ...
YAWN

I will save my empathy for non-assholes.
 
2014-08-12 03:13:31 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: People don't watch that crap for the exciting left turns. The crowd wants carnage.


No offense, but you're full of shiat on this one.
 
2014-08-12 03:15:09 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

Yeah. If I jumped off the roof of a building, and broke both of my legs, I don't think I would blame the ground for breaking my legs.



Stupid ground.
 
2014-08-12 03:15:51 PM  

Nabb1: It's not like one of his sponsors gave him a decal of a little stick figure man with red line diagonally crossing him to put beneath the driver's side window on his car.



Four more, and he makes ace!
 
2014-08-12 03:21:16 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

Yeah. If I jumped off the roof of a building, and broke both of my legs, I don't think I would blame the ground for breaking my legs.


But the guy who was supposed to break your fall MOVED!  His fault you died.
 
2014-08-12 03:31:41 PM  
If nothing else I bet he picks up a sponsorship from Rockstar Games.
 
2014-08-12 03:32:41 PM  
Actually, there were zero commercials featuring Stewart on Sunday's broadcast, so it's pretty damn clear that they're likely to drop him.
 
2014-08-12 03:33:12 PM  

UncleDirtNap: If nothing else I bet he picks up a sponsorship from Rockstar Games.


And the Deathrace sequel
 
2014-08-12 03:34:43 PM  

the biggest redneck here: Actually, there were zero commercials featuring Stewart on Sunday's broadcast, so it's pretty damn clear that they're likely to drop him.


I caught a Mobil 1 commercial late in Sundays race with Stewart in it. The only reason I remember it is that is was the only one I saw.
 
2014-08-12 03:35:04 PM  
Driver behind Smoke offers different perspective of the incident than the guy in the stands.

http://rochester.twcnews.com/content/ news/760185/witness-to-tony-stew a rt-crash-says-driver-could-not-have-av oided-hitting-other-driver/
 
2014-08-12 03:35:50 PM  

vartian: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

I don't know - every other driver had no problem not only missing him, but giving him a far greater amount of room as they passed.

That said, they all would have missed him had he just stayed in the damn car.


One driver.One driver who said he almost hit him.
 
2014-08-12 03:36:22 PM  
I don't know how anyone can say that Tony Stewart isn't at least partially to blame.

I know that when I'm driving and something is in my way, I either honk or flash my high beams. If you watch the video, you'll see that he does neither of those things. At the very least, that's criminal negligence.
 
2014-08-12 03:36:29 PM  
ugh.  I blame the hip hop 'thug life' lifestyle.  that community endorses this kind of thuggish behavior.  that's why i don't watch.  thugs.
 
2014-08-12 03:39:41 PM  

crotchgrabber: the biggest redneck here: Actually, there were zero commercials featuring Stewart on Sunday's broadcast, so it's pretty damn clear that they're likely to drop him.

I caught a Mobil 1 commercial late in Sundays race with Stewart in it. The only reason I remember it is that is was the only one I saw.


Really? I purposefully watched for his stuff, saw nothing. Maybe I just missed it. But even if there was one (and I don't doubt you that there was), it was pretty clear that several others pulled their stuff featuring him. Most notably, Coke.
 
2014-08-12 03:39:53 PM  

rickythepenguin: ugh.  I blame the hip hop 'thug life' lifestyle.  that community endorses this kind of thuggish behavior.  that's why i don't watch.  thugs.


They act like animals every time they get on the track.
 
2014-08-12 03:40:30 PM  
why would you be punished in a redneck sport for being involved in a redneck death?

/good old boys have to die somehow...
 
2014-08-12 03:42:04 PM  

rickythepenguin: ugh.  I blame the hip hop 'thug life' lifestyle.  that community endorses this kind of thuggish behavior.  that's why i don't watch.  thugs.


i was actually blaming the county good old boy machoism.  leads to stupid some times.  stupid leads to death some times.
 
2014-08-12 03:42:35 PM  
When Kyle Buchedouchenozzle put Ron Hornaday into the wall in a truck race a few years back it was a blatant, purposeful maneuver under the caution that could have killed Hornady and did put the final nail in the coffin of Hornaday's championship hopes. How many sponsors deserted Kyle? Hmm?
 
2014-08-12 03:42:56 PM  
I wonder if Darwin has a foundation that gives out sponsorships.
 
2014-08-12 03:44:04 PM  

Nabb1: It's not like one of his sponsors gave him a decal of a little stick figure man with red line diagonally crossing him to put beneath the driver's side window on his car.


If I was one of his sponsors, I would. But my sense of humor is more than a little warped.
 
2014-08-12 03:44:53 PM  

rickythepenguin: ugh.  I blame the hip hop 'thug life' lifestyle.  that community endorses this kind of thuggish behavior.  that's why i don't watch.  thugs.


Remember when that insult really was always about a white guy?  I'm glad to see someone trying to reclaim what's been so rudely stolen.
 
2014-08-12 03:44:56 PM  

dwrash: I wonder if Darwin has a foundation that gives out sponsorships.


static.squarespace.com
 
2014-08-12 03:47:22 PM  

the biggest redneck here: crotchgrabber: the biggest redneck here: Actually, there were zero commercials featuring Stewart on Sunday's broadcast, so it's pretty damn clear that they're likely to drop him.

I caught a Mobil 1 commercial late in Sundays race with Stewart in it. The only reason I remember it is that is was the only one I saw.

Really? I purposefully watched for his stuff, saw nothing. Maybe I just missed it. But even if there was one (and I don't doubt you that there was), it was pretty clear that several others pulled their stuff featuring him. Most notably, Coke.


I was keeping my eyes out for his ads too... Just curious to get a feel on how everything was going to start panning out. It was the one he doesn't say anything, and you only see him for a few seconds.
 
2014-08-12 03:47:35 PM  

rickythepenguin: ugh.  I blame the hip hop 'thug life' lifestyle.  that community endorses this kind of thuggish behavior.  that's why i don't watch.  thugs.


You know what: catering to mouth breathing rednecks is really one of the reasons I stopped going to my local dirt tracks.

There were other reasons. Low car counts, formats that weren't fan friendly but reduced risk to owners, and a complete don't give a fark attitude by local track owners and series promoters who just don't understand that the world has changed. New talent isn't being developed, or are moving to the top tier series so quickly it's impossible to develop relationships with local fans.

But having to put with dumbass rednecks is definitely part of it.
 
2014-08-12 03:47:48 PM  

KobeJeter: I don't know how anyone can say that Tony Stewart isn't at least partially to blame.

I know that when I'm driving and something is in my way, I either honk or flash my high beams. If you watch the video, you'll see that he does neither of those things. At the very least, that's criminal negligence.


This should get a few hooked.
 
2014-08-12 03:47:52 PM  

rickythepenguin: ugh.  I blame the hip hop 'thug life' lifestyle.  that community endorses this kind of thuggish behavior.  that's why i don't watch.  thugs.


I can't believe no one is talking about his religion or what kind of music he listens to.
 
2014-08-12 03:53:59 PM  

Snarfangel: Sin_City_Superhero: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

Yeah. If I jumped off the roof of a building, and broke both of my legs, I don't think I would blame the ground for breaking my legs.


Stupid ground.


I hope the ground loses whatever sponsors it has!
 
2014-08-12 03:56:25 PM  

queezyweezel: They act like animals every time they get on the track.



exactly!  bunch of thugs.  but that community supports that kind of crap.  they glorify hitting drivers who go on the track.  thugs.  not even humans.  disgusting.  count me out.
 
2014-08-12 03:59:46 PM  

WhiskeyBender: vartian: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

I don't know - every other driver had no problem not only missing him, but giving him a far greater amount of room as they passed.

That said, they all would have missed him had he just stayed in the damn car.

That is because he was going for Tony's car. When he saw it he went for it like a dumb ass.


Yeah, it's not like Stewart is a professional either, we should excuse him being the only person that hit the guy. I mean, I have not hit people when I slow down, but Stewar, since he is not a pro, could not figure that out either.
 
2014-08-12 04:00:30 PM  

KobeJeter: I don't know how anyone can say that Tony Stewart isn't at least partially to blame.

I know that when I'm driving and something is in my way, I either honk or flash my high beams. If you watch the video, you'll see that he does neither of those things. At the very least, that's criminal negligence.


You can't compare driving your sedan on a road dodging squirrels and grandmas to running in a winged sprint car on a very slick dirt track.  The cars are set up to be very loose so they can maintain their speeds through the turns via drift, and the only way to make them do something quick is to throttle up as well as to steer in the opposite way (turn right to go left).  I mean, the cars can't even start on their own (they have to be push-started by either a truck or ATV) the visibility is terrible and no, they don't have high beam lights.
 
2014-08-12 04:03:02 PM  
This is exactly why Bill Elliot and Ricky Rudd no longer race.
 
2014-08-12 04:03:52 PM  

hotrod2001: KobeJeter: I don't know how anyone can say that Tony Stewart isn't at least partially to blame.

I know that when I'm driving and something is in my way, I either honk or flash my high beams. If you watch the video, you'll see that he does neither of those things. At the very least, that's criminal negligence.

You can't compare driving your sedan on a road dodging squirrels and grandmas to running in a winged sprint car on a very slick dirt track.  The cars are set up to be very loose so they can maintain their speeds through the turns via drift, and the only way to make them do something quick is to throttle up as well as to steer in the opposite way (turn right to go left).  I mean, the cars can't even start on their own (they have to be push-started by either a truck or ATV) the visibility is terrible and no, they don't have high beam lights.


well that joke just sailed over a head there.  cleared it by several feet even.
 
2014-08-12 04:05:43 PM  
I guess I'll file this article under "People Trying To Make Outrage Out Of Things They Have No Idea Or Right To Talk About".

Like, you know, all of the Slate articles ever.
 
2014-08-12 04:06:35 PM  

foo monkey: This is exactly why Bill Elliot and Ricky Rudd no longer race.


i thought this is exactly why kevin ward no longer races...
 
2014-08-12 04:07:47 PM  

foo monkey: This is exactly why Bill Elliot and Ricky Rudd no longer race.


They got ran over by Tony Stewart also?
I thought it was more of an age/past their prime thing.
 
2014-08-12 04:08:45 PM  
Doesn't Bass Pro Shop sell guns?
Pretty sure this isn't the first time someone might connect them to a dead body. Nothing new to Bass Pro.
 
2014-08-12 04:09:04 PM  

jrodr018: WhiskeyBender: vartian: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

I don't know - every other driver had no problem not only missing him, but giving him a far greater amount of room as they passed.

That said, they all would have missed him had he just stayed in the damn car.

That is because he was going for Tony's car. When he saw it he went for it like a dumb ass.

Yeah, it's not like Stewart is a professional either, we should excuse him being the only person that hit the guy. I mean, I have not hit people when I slow down, but Stewar, since he is not a pro, could not figure that out either.


I'm just going to post hotrod2001's post again, even though he intended it for the troll.

You can't compare driving your sedan on a road dodging squirrels and grandmas to running in a winged sprint car on a very slick dirt track.  The cars are set up to be very loose so they can maintain their speeds through the turns via drift, and the only way to make them do something quick is to throttle up as well as to steer in the opposite way (turn right to go left).  I mean, the cars can't even start on their own (they have to be push-started by either a truck or ATV) the visibility is terrible and no, they don't have high beam lights.
 
2014-08-12 04:10:14 PM  
I think the only thing anyone can say is that Tony Stewart was the best driver out there and the only one who didn't miss the guy
 
2014-08-12 04:13:27 PM  

SkittlesAreYum: jrodr018: WhiskeyBender: vartian: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

I don't know - every other driver had no problem not only missing him, but giving him a far greater amount of room as they passed.

That said, they all would have missed him had he just stayed in the damn car.

That is because he was going for Tony's car. When he saw it he went for it like a dumb ass.

Yeah, it's not like Stewart is a professional either, we should excuse him being the only person that hit the guy. I mean, I have not hit people when I slow down, but Stewar, since he is not a pro, could not figure that out either.

I'm just going to post hotrod2001's post again, even though he intended it for the troll.

You can't compare driving your sedan on a road dodging squirrels and grandmas to running in a winged sprint car on a very slick dirt track.  The cars are set up to be very loose so they can maintain their speeds through the turns via drift, and the only way to make them do something quick is to throttle up as well as to steer in the opposite way (turn right to go left).  I mean, the cars can't even start on their own (they have to be push-started by either a truck or ATV) the visibility is terrible and no, they don't have high beam lights.


Well then, let's compare him with the rest of the drivers that slowed down after the initial crash. (ALL OF THE OTHER DRIVERS MISSED HIM, yep, podunk drivers handled their cars better than TS)

Yeah, I was trying to be funny, but the fact that the most experienced and gifted driver on that track hit the guy he had a confrontation with doesn't strike you as odd?
 
2014-08-12 04:16:01 PM  

namatad: queezyweezel: vartian: liam76: I think if you start running around on a racetrack when people are drifting and have poor visibility it is more appropriate to say you killed yourself.

I don't know - every other driver had no problem not only missing him, but giving him a far greater amount of room as they passed.

That said, they all would have missed him had he just stayed in the damn car.

He wasn't running right at every other car either...


and the car that had to SWERVE to avoid him was probably completely blocking the sight lines of the car that hit him.

asshole raging on the track while committing suicide ...
YAWN

I will save my empathy for non-assholes.


At least these threads are good for identifying the trolls, or, sadly, people dumb enough to believe that this was murder.
 
2014-08-12 04:16:27 PM  

A Fark Handle: hotrod2001: KobeJeter: I don't know how anyone can say that Tony Stewart isn't at least partially to blame.

I know that when I'm driving and something is in my way, I either honk or flash my high beams. If you watch the video, you'll see that he does neither of those things. At the very least, that's criminal negligence.

You can't compare driving your sedan on a road dodging squirrels and grandmas to running in a winged sprint car on a very slick dirt track.  The cars are set up to be very loose so they can maintain their speeds through the turns via drift, and the only way to make them do something quick is to throttle up as well as to steer in the opposite way (turn right to go left).  I mean, the cars can't even start on their own (they have to be push-started by either a truck or ATV) the visibility is terrible and no, they don't have high beam lights.

well that joke just sailed over a head there.  cleared it by several feet even.



Sorry, still suffering from the effects of the dumb that is the ESPN comment sections where instant experts who have no idea about auto racing are acting like Stewart just Grant Theft Autoed the guy in a fit of rage and have no idea about the type of car they were running.
 
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