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(The Week UK)   George RR Martin says Game of Thrones may include gay sex, but only if the plot justifies it. Actual quote: "You can't just insert things because everyone wants to see them"   (theweek.co.uk) divider line 178
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2014-08-12 10:16:34 AM
Worst thing an author can do is start listening to the rabid fans on what they want to see in the story. IT ain't their story to tell, its George's.
 
2014-08-12 10:31:49 AM
Now if he puts in a gay sex scene, everyone will think he caved to the pressure.
 
2014-08-12 11:05:01 AM
Also, you should win things by watching.
 
2014-08-12 11:09:09 AM
Hodor rumbled out a sensuous "Hodor" as he reached for the young Jon Snow's loin cloth, untying the leather strings holding it together and tossing it aside. It was cold up on the wall, but they would make their own heat together. The young bastard licked his lips hungrily as he reached for the huge, hairy man. Sure, he knew nothing now, but that would all change this night.
 
2014-08-12 11:15:40 AM
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It's a party!
 
2014-08-12 12:44:37 PM
Hasn't he already done this?
 
2014-08-12 12:44:53 PM
Nothing but floppy wieners and no dragons
 
2014-08-12 12:45:18 PM

gopher321: Worst thing an author can do is start listening to the rabid fans on what they want to see in the story. IT ain't their story to tell, its George's.


see: Lost

I swear the writers got their plot from message boards
 
2014-08-12 12:46:05 PM

Theaetetus: Hodor rumbled out a sensuous "Hodor" as he reached for the young Jon Snow's loin cloth, untying the leather strings holding it together and tossing it aside. It was cold up on the wall, but they would make their own heat together. The young bastard licked his lips hungrily as he reached for the huge, hairy man. Sure, he knew nothing now, but that would all change this night.


you know nutting John Snow
 
2014-08-12 12:47:45 PM
George RR Martin killed off Robin Williams. Yes, he now has the ability to kill off your favorite characters in real life.
 
2014-08-12 12:48:24 PM
I've had letters from fans who want me to present particularly an explicit male sex scene - most of the letters come from women."

Meaning two women and the rest gay guys using female names. Come on, everyone loves girl on girl action, almost no one want to see dudes going at it.

/I know, I'm the asshole
 
2014-08-12 12:48:32 PM

CruJones: Nothing but floppy wieners and no dragons


So you want dragons with erect wieners? Or erect wieners that look like dragons? (The latter exists.)
 
2014-08-12 12:48:41 PM

baconbeard: Hasn't he already done this?


You mean in the books?  Well no, the fact that some of the characters are gay is implied.
 
2014-08-12 12:49:20 PM
Oh man yeah let's have the Margaery Tyrell/Daenerys Targaryen marriage already.

And let's have them try very very very hard to produce issue.
 
2014-08-12 12:49:21 PM

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: gopher321: Worst thing an author can do is start listening to the rabid fans on what they want to see in the story. IT ain't their story to tell, its George's.

see: Lost

I swear the writers got their plot from message boards


Wasn't in the case of Lost, the people on the message boards figured it out so they had to change it and just sort of  floundered?
 
2014-08-12 12:49:46 PM

gopher321: Worst thing an author can do is start listening to the rabid fans on what they want to see in the story. IT ain't their story to tell, its George's.


or they can ruin it themselves, fan base be damned, and sell the franchise, i.e. Lucas.
 
2014-08-12 12:49:49 PM

gopher321: Worst thing an author can do is start listening to the rabid fans on what they want to see in the story. IT ain't their story to tell, its George's.


^This.

I hope he also doesn't try to change it because a lot of people have been guessing what will happen. I'd rather have it make sense and many people guess what is going to happen then they try to change it and it's stupid. I think that happened with Lost. I think it was supposed to be purgatory and people kept saying that so they changed it and then it made no sense- It's the purgatory BEFORE purgatory -- huh?
 
2014-08-12 12:49:51 PM
I suppose there are no explicit gay sex scenes in the books, but it is heavily implied.
 
2014-08-12 12:51:20 PM

CruJones: Nothing but floppy wieners and no dragons


And we are done here
 
2014-08-12 12:51:28 PM
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Challenge accepted.
 
2014-08-12 12:52:01 PM
Also I don't know what he is talking about their has been gay sex in the books.

Danerys had sex with her hand maids I can think of off the top of my head.
 
2014-08-12 12:52:02 PM
Fanservice can be a fun thing, but sometimes it's done to the point where it gets in the way of the actual story, and at that point the reader's suspension of disbelief will most likely vanish. You need to be subtle about it.
 
2014-08-12 12:52:46 PM

Theaetetus: Hodor rumbled out a sensuous "Hodor" as he reached for the young Jon Snow's loin cloth, untying the leather strings holding it together and tossing it aside. It was cold up on the wall, but they would make their own heat together. The young bastard licked his lips hungrily as he reached for the huge, hairy man. Sure, he knew nothing now, but that would all change this night.


Do go on.
 
2014-08-12 12:53:54 PM

Corvus: Also I don't know what he is talking about their has been gay sex in the books.

Danerys had sex with her hand maids I can think of off the top of my head.


That's what I was wondering as well.  Maybe it only counts when it's guy on guy action.
 
2014-08-12 12:55:52 PM
Tell that to Six Feet Under. That show had more cornholes than an Iowa county fair
 
2014-08-12 12:57:28 PM

Lumbar Puncture: Corvus: Also I don't know what he is talking about their has been gay sex in the books.

Danerys had sex with her hand maids I can think of off the top of my head.

That's what I was wondering as well.  Maybe it only counts when it's guy on guy action.


I guess. also Cersei mentions that she used to sleep with her hand maid and would snuggle with her. I don't think they got into detail much on that.

But I believe the Danerys was somewhat graphic.

But I can't think of them going into much detail with Renly on Loras action. But it's no like GRRM is shying away from the topic.
 
2014-08-12 12:57:38 PM

Fart_Machine: baconbeard: Hasn't he already done this?

You mean in the books?  Well no, the fact that some of the characters are gay is implied.


Sorry, but you haven't been paying attention. He has had a few tossers in bedroom scenes already.
 
2014-08-12 12:57:56 PM

wildcardjack: George RR Martin killed off Robin Williams. Yes, he now has the ability to kill off your favorite characters in real life.


Knowing JRRM that may not be far from the truth, so let's do an experiment and nominate Shirley Phelps as the most popular person in the US and hope for the best
 
2014-08-12 12:57:59 PM

baconbeard: Hasn't he already done this?


Renly Baratheon and Loras Tyrell had a scene, right?
 
2014-08-12 12:58:00 PM
Ramsay fondling Theon doesn't count?

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2014-08-12 12:59:14 PM
It's funny 'cause he said "insert".  Get it?

/johnson
 
2014-08-12 12:59:21 PM
Loras and Renly already took care of this.
 
2014-08-12 01:00:23 PM
You have Cersei getting deep into Taena Merryweather's Myrish swamp, and Daenerys frolicking with Doreah. There is also the implication (explicit in the show) that Renly and Loras are gay.

So yeah, already two explicit lesbian encounters and one ambiguously gay duo.
 
2014-08-12 01:00:31 PM

Corvus: Danerys had sex with her hand maids I can think of off the top of my head.


Yup. More than once, at that. She woke up after dreaming about Drogo and one of her handmaids "understood her need" or some sht. I feel like the second time was on a ship? ... Hmm, PregoBrain strikes again. Dany's handmaids slept in her bed. A lot.
 
2014-08-12 01:00:42 PM

Abuse Liability: Ramsay fondling Theon doesn't count?


If what he did counts as "fondling" in your book remind me to stay well clear of your dungeon......
 
2014-08-12 01:00:46 PM

Gonz: baconbeard: Hasn't he already done this?

Renly Baratheon and Loras Tyrell had a scene, right?


In the TV series. But I don't think they depict it in the book.  (I may be wrong)

But like I said he doesn't shy away on the topic.
 
2014-08-12 01:01:31 PM
IIRC, he doesn't go into much detail unless the sexy-time involves a 14 year old girl, an erect penis, or incest.

/still no news on the release of book 6
 
2014-08-12 01:02:29 PM
He's not really all that graphic in the books anyway except for maybe Danerys and the slave girl but even that was rather tame.
 
2014-08-12 01:02:47 PM

Mugato: I've had letters from fans who want me to present particularly an explicit male sex scene - most of the letters come from women."

Meaning two women and the rest gay guys using female names. Come on, everyone loves girl on girl action, almost no one want to see dudes going at it.

/I know, I'm the asshole


see: Yaoi.  Mostly for women written by women.
 
2014-08-12 01:03:35 PM
Surprise gay sex is in every pay cable show. I'm shocked this has not been in GoT
/Surprise random naked guy walking around was nuts in Spartacus
 
2014-08-12 01:03:56 PM
If you want to see penises, inserting them somewhere seems counterproductive.
 
2014-08-12 01:04:35 PM
I think Robert Downey Jr is going to have a guest starring role with Tyrion.

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2014-08-12 01:05:17 PM
The actual novels don't whore themselves out with T&A the way HBO does.  And when it does, there's an awful lot of "one and done" encounters that wouldn't exactly make for quality porn.  ("but I haven't even unzipped yet!")

That said, the Walk of Shame should rustle a lot of the usual (lack of) jimmies when it airs.  Even though its based on a historical form of punishment/atonement.  I imagine they might be a little miffed with the ABSOLUTE SCHADENFREUDE GLEE that the scene presents.

/she gets off easy
//giggity
 
2014-08-12 01:06:33 PM
I'd be happy if we just got a little more wang. I mean, every female character has done full frontal. And what do we get?

Hodor.

C'mon.
 
2014-08-12 01:06:44 PM
Based on what I've been seeing in the popular media, this will happen only if three conditions are fulfilled:

1. It will be a lesbian relationship.  Male homosexuality is still taboo (because who wants to read about that?)

2. The women involved will be hot (because who wants to read about ugly women farking?)

3. At least one of the women will be a villain (because even among lesbians, only "bad girls" do.)
 
2014-08-12 01:07:09 PM
There's really not that much sex in the book
 
2014-08-12 01:07:48 PM

Mugato: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: gopher321: Worst thing an author can do is start listening to the rabid fans on what they want to see in the story. IT ain't their story to tell, its George's.

see: Lost

I swear the writers got their plot from message boards

Wasn't in the case of Lost, the people on the message boards figured it out so they had to change it and just sort of  floundered?


Nah, they just stole the idea later for an unrelated (and ultimately pointless fan service) side story as the ultimate troll.
 
2014-08-12 01:08:20 PM

Mouser: Based on what I've been seeing in the popular media, this will happen only if three conditions are fulfilled:

1. It will be a lesbian relationship.  Male homosexuality is still taboo (because who wants to read about that?)

2. The women involved will be hot (because who wants to read about ugly women farking?)

3. At least one of the women will be a villain (because even among lesbians, only "bad girls" do.)


All three have already been satisfied. Cersei and Taena Merryweather get freaky between the sheets. Both are described as very beautiful women and Cersei is definitely a villain (as much as anyone can be a villain in Westeros).
 
2014-08-12 01:08:48 PM
There already was a gay sex scene, involving Daenerys and one of her handmaids.
 
2014-08-12 01:08:52 PM

dascott: The actual novels don't whore themselves out with T&A the way HBO does.  And when it does, there's an awful lot of "one and done" encounters that wouldn't exactly make for quality porn.  ("but I haven't even unzipped yet!")

That said, the Walk of Shame should rustle a lot of the usual (lack of) jimmies when it airs.  Even though its based on a historical form of punishment/atonement.  I imagine they might be a little miffed with the ABSOLUTE SCHADENFREUDE GLEE that the scene presents.

/she gets off easy
//giggity


Seeing as the show managed to turn Jami Lanister into a rapist in what wasn't a rape scene in the books I'm betting this one will be epic in terms of their inpet handling and the outraged reaction of SJWs.
 
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