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(Minneapolis Star Tribune)   Chief Justice Roberts, who helped usher in unlimited political spending, decries partisanship. That's the joke   (startribune.com ) divider line
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2014-08-12 08:37:18 AM  
Chief Justice Roberts says lawyers should 'rise above' partisan divides and be problem solvers

How about you start with fixing the partisan divide that's made Anthony Kennedy the most powerful man in America.
 
2014-08-12 09:19:00 AM  
The damage this court has done to middle-class America is going to take decades, and possibly Constitutional Amendments, to undo.
 
2014-08-12 09:57:20 AM  
What an asshole.
 
2014-08-12 09:57:59 AM  
Chief Justice Roberts says lawyers should 'rise above' partisan divides and be problem solvers

He thinks we should euthanise Scalia?
 
2014-08-12 10:06:42 AM  
Republicans are missing the irony gene
 
2014-08-12 10:07:25 AM  
He knows he's going down in history as one of our monsters. Hey, it's what you chose.
 
2014-08-12 10:09:02 AM  

Generation_D: The damage this court has done to middle-class America is going to take decades, and possibly Constitutional Amendments, to undo.


In the current political climate, I have a hard time believing enough states would ratify any amendment to the Constitution.
 
2014-08-12 10:09:58 AM  
Hey a SCOTUS justice turns out to be hypocritical; just imagine!
 
2014-08-12 10:10:17 AM  

Generation_D: The damage this court has done to middle-class America is going to take decades, and possibly Constitutional Amendments, to undo.


Oh, they're not done yet. Four of the current justices are over 70; I don't think it's too crazy to think they'll be replaced by 2020, and if they all get replaced with justices in the mold of Scalia or Alito...
 
2014-08-12 10:12:24 AM  

dookdookdook: How about you start with fixing the partisan divide that's made Anthony Kennedy the most powerful man in America.


So who should control the court then, conservatives or liberals?
 
2014-08-12 10:12:34 AM  

yakmans_dad: He knows he's going down in history as one of our monsters. Hey, it's what you chose.


Honestly?

I don't think he realizes that.

I believe he thinks that he isn't partisan.
 
2014-08-12 10:12:58 AM  
It's probably time to pack the court, these people don't take the job very seriously.
 
2014-08-12 10:13:10 AM  

GoldSpider: dookdookdook: How about you start with fixing the partisan divide that's made Anthony Kennedy the most powerful man in America.

So who should control the court then, conservatives or liberals?


It's a zero sum game to you, isn't it?
 
2014-08-12 10:13:14 AM  
The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.
 
2014-08-12 10:13:36 AM  
John Roberts is already revising the history that he will be judged harshly by.

He looks like a nice man.  Looks can be deceiving.
 
2014-08-12 10:14:09 AM  

qorkfiend: Generation_D: The damage this court has done to middle-class America is going to take decades, and possibly Constitutional Amendments, to undo.

Oh, they're not done yet. Four of the current justices are over 70; I don't think it's too crazy to think they'll be replaced by 2020, and if they all get replaced with justices in the mold of Scalia or Alito...


I just don't see how, without a major shift, we could have another Republican president any time in the near future. The rubber banding they have to do to pull crazy right and win the primary then snap back towards the center to win the general is too much. The legislature can still go all red because of gerrymandering and the way its set up but the presidency no way
 
2014-08-12 10:14:21 AM  
hahahahahahahahaha.... STFU, Roberts.

/partisanship is bad so vote Republican
 
2014-08-12 10:14:52 AM  

Tigger: Chief Justice Roberts says lawyers should 'rise above' partisan divides and be problem solvers

He thinks we should euthanise Scalia?


You know, the court should set an example for non-partisanship by an 8-0 stomping out of Scalia.

/The above entry was meant as humor and parody and in no way do I condone or encourage the use of force against any public official
/maybe I should make a donation to the GOP...you know...for protection...
 
2014-08-12 10:15:13 AM  

Generation_D: The damage this court has done to middle-class America is going to take decades, and possibly Constitutional Amendments, to undo.


And possibly Papal intervention.
 
2014-08-12 10:16:59 AM  

sendtodave: I believe he thinks that he isn't partisan.


Well, he did rule in favor of ACA. So, maybe he thinks that makes him even.
 
2014-08-12 10:17:12 AM  

Jacobin: Republicans are missing the irony gene


Rising above irony allows them to project their own faults on their opponents with voter-inspiring confidence and assurance.
 
2014-08-12 10:18:55 AM  

sendtodave: It's a zero sum game to you, isn't it?


It's been that way in SCOTUS for at least the last century.  Don't blame me, I didn't build it.
 
2014-08-12 10:18:56 AM  
LOL, Roberts is a joke allowing Obamacare to survive.  Tax my "A**"!!!   He has Repubulican disease, he wants to be "liked," instead of adjudicate.  So kiss the King's ring and declare his unconstitutional law, constitutional.  Too many damn lawyers in DC!!
 
2014-08-12 10:18:57 AM  
Chief Justice Roberts says lawyers should 'rise above' partisan divides and be problem solvers

Even Roger Taney is giving himself a facepalm in Hell.
 
2014-08-12 10:19:10 AM  
Money doesn't drive partisanship.  Partisanship is a word describing when power is contested between two entities who have opposing opinions on the main issues.  Whether or not they fight that battle with a lot of money or only a little money is irrelevant to the question of if they are being partisan.  The battle is fought with votes.  If there are relatively few voters who have an "in-between" or "middle of the road" opinion, the politicians will make little effort to woo them, whether they do the woo-ing with expensive TV ads or volunteer door-knockers.
 
2014-08-12 10:20:44 AM  

clkeagle: Generation_D: The damage this court has done to middle-class America is going to take decades, and possibly Constitutional Amendments, to undo.

In the current political climate, I have a hard time believing enough states would ratify any amendment to the Constitution.


Solution: let the DerpaJeebusStan States secede.

Dropping your liabilities makes progress possible.
 
2014-08-12 10:21:01 AM  

GoldSpider: So who should control the court then, conservatives or liberals?


Are those the only two choices?
 
2014-08-12 10:21:25 AM  

2xcited: LOL, Roberts is a joke allowing Obamacare to survive.  Tax my "A**"!!!   He has Repubulican disease, he wants to be "liked," instead of adjudicate.  So kiss the King's ring and declare his unconstitutional law, constitutional.  Too many damn lawyers in DC!!



How is it unconstitutional?
Be specific.
 
2014-08-12 10:21:50 AM  

CPennypacker: qorkfiend: Generation_D: The damage this court has done to middle-class America is going to take decades, and possibly Constitutional Amendments, to undo.

Oh, they're not done yet. Four of the current justices are over 70; I don't think it's too crazy to think they'll be replaced by 2020, and if they all get replaced with justices in the mold of Scalia or Alito...

I just don't see how, without a major shift, we could have another Republican president any time in the near future. The rubber banding they have to do to pull crazy right and win the primary then snap back towards the center to win the general is too much. The legislature can still go all red because of gerrymandering and the way its set up but the presidency no way


A poor candidate or campaign on the part of the Democrats could do it, and one of the easiest ways to screw up a campaign is to into it thinking you've got the election in the bag.
 
2014-08-12 10:22:08 AM  

GoldSpider: dookdookdook: How about you start with fixing the partisan divide that's made Anthony Kennedy the most powerful man in America.

So who should control the court then, conservatives or liberals?


Neither - justices should control it. There's no room for ideologues.
 
2014-08-12 10:22:39 AM  

2xcited: LOL, Roberts is a joke allowing Obamacare to survive.  Tax my "A**"!!!   He has Repubulican disease, he wants to be "liked," instead of adjudicate.  So kiss the King's ring and declare his unconstitutional law, constitutional.  Too many damn lawyers in DC!!


Ladies and gentleman, may I present to you the future of political discourse:  The Monster!
 
2014-08-12 10:23:22 AM  

qorkfiend: CPennypacker: qorkfiend: Generation_D: The damage this court has done to middle-class America is going to take decades, and possibly Constitutional Amendments, to undo.

Oh, they're not done yet. Four of the current justices are over 70; I don't think it's too crazy to think they'll be replaced by 2020, and if they all get replaced with justices in the mold of Scalia or Alito...

I just don't see how, without a major shift, we could have another Republican president any time in the near future. The rubber banding they have to do to pull crazy right and win the primary then snap back towards the center to win the general is too much. The legislature can still go all red because of gerrymandering and the way its set up but the presidency no way

A poor candidate or campaign on the part of the Democrats could do it, and one of the easiest ways to screw up a campaign is to into it thinking you've got the election in the bag.


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2014-08-12 10:24:02 AM  

CPennypacker: I just don't see how, without a major shift, we could have another Republican president any time in the near future. The rubber banding they have to do to pull crazy right and win the primary then snap back towards the center to win the general is too much. The legislature can still go all red because of gerrymandering and the way its set up but the presidency no way


Sooner or later people will get frustrated with the Democrats for not being perfect and the memory of just how bloody awful the last Republican administration was will have faded, so we'll give them another shot.
 
2014-08-12 10:24:20 AM  

Solon Isonomia: GoldSpider: dookdookdook: How about you start with fixing the partisan divide that's made Anthony Kennedy the most powerful man in America.

So who should control the court then, conservatives or liberals?

Neither - justices should control it. There's no room for ideologues.


The court has always been steered by ideology. It's a trend that literally goes back to John Jay.
 
2014-08-12 10:24:23 AM  

give me doughnuts: 2xcited: LOL, Roberts is a joke allowing Obamacare to survive.  Tax my "A**"!!!   He has Repubulican disease, he wants to be "liked," instead of adjudicate.  So kiss the King's ring and declare his unconstitutional law, constitutional.  Too many damn lawyers in DC!!


How is it unconstitutional?
Be specific.


Unconstitutional means bad.

It's self-evident that it is bad.
 
2014-08-12 10:25:06 AM  
Partisan people criticizing someone they claim is partisan.

Fark is funny.

You guys are very potatoe.
 
2014-08-12 10:25:15 AM  
Partisan issues? I'd like to see someone complain about class issues.
 
2014-08-12 10:25:33 AM  

Wyalt Derp: CPennypacker: I just don't see how, without a major shift, we could have another Republican president any time in the near future. The rubber banding they have to do to pull crazy right and win the primary then snap back towards the center to win the general is too much. The legislature can still go all red because of gerrymandering and the way its set up but the presidency no way

Sooner or later people will get frustrated with the Democrats for not being perfect and the memory of just how bloody awful the last Republican administration was will have faded, so we'll give them another shot.


I'm already frustrated at the Democrats for not being perfect.

And they're going to nominate Hillary.

No one likes Hillary.
 
2014-08-12 10:25:51 AM  

Generation_D: The damage this court has done to middle-class America is going to take decades, and possibly Constitutional Amendments, to undo.


Middle-class America keeps voting against its own interests, so I have zero sympathy at this point.  In fact I'm now pointing and laughing at their continued self-rape.
 
2014-08-12 10:26:02 AM  

give me doughnuts: 2xcited: LOL, Roberts is a joke allowing Obamacare to survive.  Tax my "A**"!!!   He has Repubulican disease, he wants to be "liked," instead of adjudicate.  So kiss the King's ring and declare his unconstitutional law, constitutional.  Too many damn lawyers in DC!!


How is it unconstitutional?
Be specific.


No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
 
2014-08-12 10:26:19 AM  

lexnaturalis: sendtodave: I believe he thinks that he isn't partisan.

Well, he did rule in favor of ACA. So, maybe he thinks that makes him even.


I had high hopes after that, but I guess he took too much flak from his party.
 
2014-08-12 10:26:55 AM  

Wyalt Derp: Are those the only two choices?


Right now?  Yes.

Solon Isonomia: Neither - justices should control it. There's no room for ideologues.


Even the most objective of justices have their own personal ideologies which guide their opinions.  It's human nature, and there's no way of removing that from the process as long as humans comprise the court.
 
2014-08-12 10:28:20 AM  
Roberts stating the obvious to a room full of lawyers. Unleash the attack dogs.
 
2014-08-12 10:28:53 AM  

snowshovel: give me doughnuts: 2xcited: LOL, Roberts is a joke allowing Obamacare to survive.  Tax my "A**"!!!   He has Repubulican disease, he wants to be "liked," instead of adjudicate.  So kiss the King's ring and declare his unconstitutional law, constitutional.  Too many damn lawyers in DC!!


How is it unconstitutional?
Be specific.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.



Yes, but we didn't elect McCain.

And we're unlikely to elect Cruz.
 
2014-08-12 10:29:06 AM  
you need electoral reform if you want to end partisanship.  You can spend all day and night hating the players but the game is fundamentally flawed and we all know it.
 
2014-08-12 10:29:14 AM  
"Liberal lawyers fulfill their professional calling to its fullest extent when they rise above particular partisan debates and participate as problem solvers, by adopting the conservative platform"

Fixed that for you, Roberts.
 
2014-08-12 10:29:33 AM  

fifthhorseman: Generation_D: The damage this court has done to middle-class America is going to take decades, and possibly Constitutional Amendments, to undo.

Middle-class America keeps voting against its own interests, so I have zero sympathy at this point.  In fact I'm now pointing and laughing at their continued self-rape.


I thought about it recently.  When, really, have people not put their own interests below that of their rulers?  For all of human history, people let their rulers, well, rule.

Peasants are peasants.  Lords are lords.  The thing is that now we can kinda sorta pick our lords.

That's it.  That's all we get.

They're still the rulers, we still aren't.

Beats the last ten thousand years, though.
 
2014-08-12 10:30:01 AM  

GoldSpider: dookdookdook: How about you start with fixing the partisan divide that's made Anthony Kennedy the most powerful man in America.

So who should control the court then, conservatives or liberals?


Well, conservatives DO want to go back to the 1950's for the most part - and on that point it could be argued that the SCOTUS was far more liberal at that time. So.. liberal please.
 
2014-08-12 10:30:07 AM  
Wahhhh the legislature will not fix the mess after we slapped down major bits of legislation and asked them to pass constitutionally justified legislation to correct the problem.
 
2014-08-12 10:34:11 AM  

GoldSpider: dookdookdook: How about you start with fixing the partisan divide that's made Anthony Kennedy the most powerful man in America.

So who should control the court then, conservatives or liberals?


Neither. Until recently, the general political parties didn't come in to being the default position of the Supreme Court.

The current and previous courts probably have had the founding fathers spinning in their graves.

For actual evidence of this (unwanted partisanship, not grave spinning), Thomas Jefferson pushed his party to impeach Supreme Court Justice Samuel Chase for being too partisan.

Now the entire court is packed with hyperpartisan members.
 
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