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2014-08-12 08:41:10 AM
POINTS!
 
2014-08-12 09:29:27 AM
you know if they win the Emmy, Hardwick is going to do a week on it.
 
2014-08-12 09:31:39 AM
In other news, Robin Williams bequeathed his manic energy to Chris Hardwick, devoid of the bipolar depression.
 
2014-08-12 09:37:52 AM
Which brings us to tonight's hashtag: #ruinashowconcept.  Yeesss... ruin a show concept in which we take ideas that we like and make them terrible.

Examples could include The Tosh.O'Reilly Factor, or Houseguest Hunters International, or perhaps even Cop Rock.
 
2014-08-12 09:48:33 AM
My wife and I are going on vacation in a few weeks. What are we most looking forward to? Is it the beach? Is it day drinking? Whale watching? Speedboating? Nope, it's staying up until midnight to play Hashtag Wars live.
 
2014-08-12 09:55:31 AM

factoryconnection: Which brings us to tonight's hashtag: #ruinashowconcept.  Yeesss... ruin a show concept in which we take ideas that we like and make them terrible.

Examples could include The Tosh.O'Reilly Factor, or Houseguest Hunters International, or perhaps even Cop Rock.


POINTS!
 
2014-08-12 10:15:13 AM
What time is it on? And what channel?
 
2014-08-12 10:19:20 AM
Well, of course they renewed it... it's likable, and it's pure profit.

The most expensive part of that show is probably the cost of turning on the studio lights.
 
2014-08-12 10:20:23 AM

ArkAngel: What time is it on? And what channel?


Call Mr. Plow, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Plow.
 
2014-08-12 10:25:36 AM
It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.
 
2014-08-12 10:26:29 AM
I would watch it, the guests are usually comedians that I like...

But I just can't stand Chris Hardwick. I should like him, I'm his absolutely target demographic. Nerd/Geek for pretty much my whole life. I love science and video games and comedy. I pretty much exclusively listen to podcasts, and I am a 33 year old male... I should theoretically love the guy.

But I can't stand him for some reason. I can't watch any of his shows, I can struggle through his podcast if it's a really good guest but otherwise I can't do it.

I suppose it's just me, because the guy is absolutely killing it.
 
2014-08-12 10:27:18 AM

Troy McClure: It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.


Eh.....I'm not entirely convinced they are coming up with those jokes "in the moment", vs. having some time before the show to consult with their writers
 
2014-08-12 10:27:21 AM

factoryconnection: Which brings us to tonight's hashtag: #ruinashowconcept.  Yeesss... ruin a show concept in which we take ideas that we like and make them terrible.

Examples could include The Tosh.O'Reilly Factor, or Houseguest Hunters International, or perhaps even Cop Rock.


Lol.....no one would ever make a show like that!
 
2014-08-12 10:28:34 AM

Troy McClure: It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.


I was so happy when Thomas Lennon finally won the internet. And earlier this year when they did a reunion for The State (only 2 weren't there, I want to say it was Allison & Houlbeck).
 
2014-08-12 10:28:47 AM

Derwood: Troy McClure: It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.

Eh.....I'm not entirely convinced they are coming up with those jokes "in the moment", vs. having some time before the show to consult with their writers


They are not. I've heard some of the comedians talk about the writers that have given them jokes. That's right, the show has writers.
 
2014-08-12 10:29:28 AM

Troy McClure: It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.


This.  Sometimes the guests are into it...other times...wow, they just don't want to be there.  When its good it can reach average episode of "Who's line is it anyway?" quality.  When its bad...it makes me want to watch Pawnography for less awkward moments.
 
2014-08-12 10:30:22 AM

clkeagle: Well, of course they renewed it... it's likable, and it's pure profit.

The most expensive part of that show is probably the cost of turning on the studio lights.


The formula is hard to argue with. Social media provides you new crowdsourced material daily, your host is well-liked and knows a ton of comedians and other celebrities, lesser-known comics want a vehicle to promote themselves, you have both writers and guests to contribute the jokes, the target demographic means that studios promoting comedies will furnish their better-known stars (e.g., Jonah Hill and Channing Tatum) for guest spots, and you have a level of real-time interaction with your viewers.
 
2014-08-12 10:31:16 AM

Derwood: Troy McClure: It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.

Eh.....I'm not entirely convinced they are coming up with those jokes "in the moment", vs. having some time before the show to consult with their writers


They addressed this in one show. They admit it's a fake improv show.

That said, they should really feed some of the more unfunny guests better lines. The one recently were the girl was clearly anti-pot and decided to make "statements"
 
2014-08-12 10:31:32 AM

Derwood: Troy McClure: It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.

Eh.....I'm not entirely convinced they are coming up with those jokes "in the moment", vs. having some time before the show to consult with their writers


The live challenges are the only time that they have to come up with a concept on the spot. You can even see some of them looking at their notes during the other questions. I thought that was obvious.
 
2014-08-12 10:33:29 AM

Outlawtsar: This. Sometimes the guests are into it...other times...wow, they just don't want to be there.


There's a stable of guests who buy into it consistently: Doug Benson, Nikki Glaser, Jonah Ray, Matt Braunger, Kurt Braunohler, Paul F. Tompkins, Jen Kirkman, Steve Agee, Rob Huebel come to mind. Tom Lennon seems to genuinely have fun. There are always some comic actors who are just there to promote stuff and aren't really "comedians" per se. I'm never sure if Marc Maron wants to be there.
 
2014-08-12 10:33:40 AM
Bullshiat. This show is the modern equivalent of 'Match Game'.
Alt-comics reading pre-written replies and pretending they're ad-libbing.

/I know...hater.
//but it just seems so...forced.
 
2014-08-12 10:34:12 AM
... hosted by Chris Hardwick ...

No, thanks.
 
2014-08-12 10:34:32 AM

jaylectricity: Derwood: Troy McClure: It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.

Eh.....I'm not entirely convinced they are coming up with those jokes "in the moment", vs. having some time before the show to consult with their writers

They are not. I've heard some of the comedians talk about the writers that have given them jokes. That's right, the show has writers.


Of course the show has writers, they have to give Chris something to say, but the show seems way more unscripted than scripted. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave the guests heads up on the categories and hashtag wars stuff to prepare responses, but I'd be surprised if they fed them more than the occasional joke.

But whatever the case, the show is still awesome, and probably costs Jon Stewart's lunch to produce..
 
2014-08-12 10:35:33 AM
#shouldbeonlyonceperweek

Football
@Midnight
< yourmomjokehere >

I don't know if it's "not enough material" or "thin premise gets old," but the show should really be one night per week... and I -like- the thing.

The Homer Tax: But I can't stand him for some reason.


I'm not quite there yet, but approaching it.  I think on @Midnight, at least, the writers aren't quite as funny as he can be (or they don't have enough time), and his acting/line-reading isn't good enough to make up for weak material.  This combination leads to painful results:  His spontaneous outbursts can be hilarious, while his must-read-the-written-jokes forced bits can be a rhythm-destroying trainwreck.
 
2014-08-12 10:39:58 AM

jaylectricity: POINTS!


ManateeGag: factoryconnection: Which brings us to tonight's hashtag: #ruinashowconcept.  Yeesss... ruin a show concept in which we take ideas that we like and make them terrible.

Examples could include The Tosh.O'Reilly Factor, or Houseguest Hunters International, or perhaps even Cop Rock.

POINTS!


Came for POINTS!  Leaving POINTS!
 
2014-08-12 10:41:49 AM

kronicfeld: Outlawtsar: This. Sometimes the guests are into it...other times...wow, they just don't want to be there.

There's a stable of guests who buy into it consistently: Doug Benson, Nikki Glaser, Jonah Ray, Matt Braunger, Kurt Braunohler, Paul F. Tompkins, Jen Kirkman, Steve Agee, Rob Huebel come to mind. Tom Lennon seems to genuinely have fun. There are always some comic actors who are just there to promote stuff and aren't really "comedians" per se. I'm never sure if Marc Maron wants to be there.


You missed the Sklar brothers - I love those guys. I think Maron does want to be there, he and Hardwick seem to have some kind of love/hate thing going on which I find entertaining.

What I like most about the show is that it has introduced me to a whole host of comedians that I'd never heard of before.
 
2014-08-12 10:47:08 AM

nmrsnr: jaylectricity: Derwood: Troy McClure: It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.

Eh.....I'm not entirely convinced they are coming up with those jokes "in the moment", vs. having some time before the show to consult with their writers

They are not. I've heard some of the comedians talk about the writers that have given them jokes. That's right, the show has writers.

Of course the show has writers, they have to give Chris something to say, but the show seems way more unscripted than scripted. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave the guests heads up on the categories and hashtag wars stuff to prepare responses, but I'd be surprised if they fed them more than the occasional joke.

But whatever the case, the show is still awesome, and probably costs Jon Stewart's lunch to produce..


No, I'm telling you that a specific comedian on the show (Nikki Glaser) I think said that the writers give them jokes for each category.
 
2014-08-12 10:49:31 AM

kronicfeld: Outlawtsar: This. Sometimes the guests are into it...other times...wow, they just don't want to be there.

There's a stable of guests who buy into it consistently: Doug Benson, Nikki Glaser, Jonah Ray, Matt Braunger, Kurt Braunohler, Paul F. Tompkins, Jen Kirkman, Steve Agee, Rob Huebel come to mind. Tom Lennon seems to genuinely have fun. There are always some comic actors who are just there to promote stuff and aren't really "comedians" per se. I'm never sure if Marc Maron wants to be there.


I'm guessing neither is Maron.
 
2014-08-12 10:49:44 AM

jaylectricity: Derwood: Troy McClure: It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.

Eh.....I'm not entirely convinced they are coming up with those jokes "in the moment", vs. having some time before the show to consult with their writers

They are not. I've heard some of the comedians talk about the writers that have given them jokes. That's right, the show has writers.


Sure, but good delivery makes it funny.  Some guests do a great job.  Others are like the guy who played Murray on Flight of the Conchords and are comedy poison.
 
2014-08-12 10:53:48 AM
The extended episode with wil wheaton, aisha tyler and Kevin Pereira was just gold.  Also the episode with Patton Oswalt.  I like the asides more than the actual jokes for the categories, like Hardwicks giant rant about the cat in the vagina poster and how the censors won't blur it but blurred the nipples as if that was the problem.
 
2014-08-12 10:54:28 AM

clkeagle: Well, of course they renewed it... it's likable, and it's pure profit.

The most expensive part of that show is probably the cost of turning on the studio lights.


they must go through a lot of red light bubs.
 
2014-08-12 10:55:26 AM

Troy McClure: It's all about the guests.  Some are fantastic at it.


true, I am kind of over Doug Bensen's "I'm high all the time" shtick, though.
 
2014-08-12 10:55:37 AM
To be clear, I'm not belittling the show for having writers. I was just clarifying to the guy upthread who wasn't convinced that they come up with all that shiat on the fly.

Every show has writers. Chelsea Lately, The Tonight Show, etc.
 
2014-08-12 11:00:16 AM

jaylectricity: No, I'm telling you that a specific comedian on the show (Nikki Glaser) I think said that the writers give them jokes for each category.


Do they have to say those jokes, or are they fallbacks to help them out just in case they get stuck and can't improv anything good? I can see that being a safety net so a comedian doesn't look bad if they can't come up with something in a snap.
 
2014-08-12 11:11:21 AM
Weird Al won one night and was hilarious.  Meanwhile, Ice Cube is not a funny guy or a decent guy and should not be on tv.
 
2014-08-12 11:16:09 AM

jaylectricity: No, I'm telling you that a specific comedian on the show (Nikki Glaser) I think said that the writers give them jokes for each category.


Cite?
 
2014-08-12 11:17:01 AM

kronicfeld: I'm never sure if Marc Maron wants to be there.


The lead sentence in Marc Maron's biography, right there.

Mad_Radhu: jaylectricity: No, I'm telling you that a specific comedian on the show (Nikki Glaser) I think said that the writers give them jokes for each category.

Do they have to say those jokes, or are they fallbacks to help them out just in case they get stuck and can't improv anything good? I can see that being a safety net so a comedian doesn't look bad if they can't come up with something in a snap.


I'm sure it is something like this.  They also trim the game, as evidenced by random score jumps (Weird Al racked up like 600 undocumented points) for content/length sake.  I know all this and I don't care.   It is a lot like Fark... we use cribbed and recycled material but apply it to a variety of new topics daily.  I JUST WANT TO LAUGH
 
2014-08-12 11:17:40 AM

factoryconnection: Which brings us to tonight's hashtag: #ruinashowconcept.  Yeesss... ruin a show concept in which we take ideas that we like and make them terrible.

Examples could include The Tosh.O'Reilly Factor, or Houseguest Hunters International, or perhaps even Cop Rock.


None of those shows was ever a good idea.
 
2014-08-12 11:18:15 AM

Nemo's Brother: Weird Al won one night and was hilarious.  Meanwhile, Ice Cube is not a funny guy or a decent guy and should not be on tv.


I also didn't like that episode.  Too much riffing on the "I'm scared of the N W the A" theme.
 
2014-08-12 11:21:58 AM
It's Bunk.
 
2014-08-12 11:22:36 AM

factoryconnection: kronicfeld: I'm never sure if Marc Maron wants to be there.

The lead sentence in Marc Maron's biography, right there.

Mad_Radhu: jaylectricity: No, I'm telling you that a specific comedian on the show (Nikki Glaser) I think said that the writers give them jokes for each category.

Do they have to say those jokes, or are they fallbacks to help them out just in case they get stuck and can't improv anything good? I can see that being a safety net so a comedian doesn't look bad if they can't come up with something in a snap.

I'm sure it is something like this.  They also trim the game, as evidenced by random score jumps (Weird Al racked up like 600 undocumented points) for content/length sake.  I know all this and I don't care.   It is a lot like Fark... we use cribbed and recycled material but apply it to a variety of new topics daily.  I JUST WANT TO LAUGH


I thought the same thing. If every single joke and point were scripted, the entirety of the show would be much closer to the 22-minute airtime.

Maybe when they do rehearsal, it's a scripted version of the aired jokes but with canned responses? So the comedians know exactly what kind of responses they should give during the actual recording?
 
2014-08-12 11:22:59 AM
What's the difference between Fark and @midnight besides the cost of Total Fark?
 
2014-08-12 11:24:21 AM

Derp Du Jour: What's the difference between Fark and @midnight besides the cost of Total Fark?


More female participants on @midnight?
 
2014-08-12 11:26:29 AM

clkeagle: Derp Du Jour: What's the difference between Fark and @midnight besides the cost of Total Fark?

More female participants on @midnight?


POINTS!!
 
2014-08-12 11:32:10 AM

exparrot: Bullshiat. This show is the modern equivalent of 'Match Game'.
Alt-comics reading pre-written replies and pretending they're ad-libbing.

/I know...hater.
//but it just seems so...forced.


Yep....concept is good, but by and large the people they have on are shiatty at remembering the script and sound like high school play actors.  The forced (and too hard) "laughter" just makes it worse.

/wanted to like it
//but couldn't
 
2014-08-12 11:34:14 AM

The Homer Tax: I would watch it, the guests are usually comedians that I like...

But I just can't stand Chris Hardwick. I should like him, I'm his absolutely target demographic. Nerd/Geek for pretty much my whole life. I love science and video games and comedy. I pretty much exclusively listen to podcasts, and I am a 33 year old male... I should theoretically love the guy.

But I can't stand him for some reason. I can't watch any of his shows, I can struggle through his podcast if it's a really good guest but otherwise I can't do it.

I suppose it's just me, because the guy is absolutely killing it.


This is exactly how I feel. I think I was put off by him a couple years ago; I was watching one of his standup specials, and it was pretty good, but then he went on this whole spiel about how he was picked on for being a nerd in high school, but now being a nerd is cool, so everyone else can go fark themselves.  It was very off putting. It felt very bitter and like he's never gotten over it, even with his level of success.

I mean, I understand being excited that your interests have become the cool thing, and being resentful towards people that were mean to you in the past, but he went overboard, like, "you like sports? well you're an ignorant asshole! you don't know the latest comic book story lines? you're a piece of shiat loser!"

At least that's what it sounded like to me. YMMV
 
2014-08-12 11:34:43 AM

The Homer Tax: I would watch it, the guests are usually comedians that I like...

But I just can't stand Chris Hardwick. I should like him, I'm his absolutely target demographic. Nerd/Geek for pretty much my whole life. I love science and video games and comedy. I pretty much exclusively listen to podcasts, and I am a 33 year old male... I should theoretically love the guy.

But I can't stand him for some reason. I can't watch any of his shows, I can struggle through his podcast if it's a really good guest but otherwise I can't do it.

I suppose it's just me, because the guy is absolutely killing it.


All of this. You are not alone, my friend.
 
2014-08-12 11:39:54 AM
My favorite Comedy Central renewal is definitely broad city, but this show wasn't bad. Just had that "trying too hard" feel. Maybe that stopped after the first few episodes?
 
2014-08-12 11:40:06 AM
Awesome, that's great. I really enjoy this show, and I really like seeing people like Hardwick succeed. I've turned a couple people onto @midnight, and I second that you should be watching it!
 
2014-08-12 11:42:20 AM

deeyablo: It's Bunk.


Exactly this, it's a repackaged version of the game show Bunk. That show was hosted by Kurt Braunholer, who was actually pretty hilarious. @Midnight is funnier, because the subject matter (crowdsourced internet stuff) is always semi-fresh.

I'm glad @Midnight was renewed. This is one of the few shows that I make a point to DVR.
 
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