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(WTKR)   Federal judge spends night in jail after alleged domestic dispute, immediately becomes most popular jailhouse lawyer of all time   (wtkr.com) divider line 18
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5409 clicks; posted to Main » on 12 Aug 2014 at 8:01 PM (23 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-08-12 07:39:37 PM  
That's a particularly nasty jail, too.   Like spending a night in Bartertown.
 
2014-08-12 08:05:16 PM  
If you dont jailhouse train rape me I will tell you this neat little trick that people can use to avoid jail time.

Well Mr Man, *zip* seeing as how we are already in jail.....

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
 
2014-08-12 08:07:17 PM  
I wonder what his wife did to him to make him so angry?
 
2014-08-12 08:10:35 PM  

Atomic Spunk: I wonder what his wife did to him to make him so angry?


LOL. That wasn't even a half-hearted attempt. More like a 10% effort.
 
2014-08-12 08:11:30 PM  
Is subby implying he got off light because he's a judge?  Because sadly it's typical.  The weird part was him using a public defender
 
2014-08-12 08:16:52 PM  

CruJones: Is subby implying he got off light because he's a judge?  Because sadly it's typical.  The weird part was him using a public defender


He didn't get to be a judge by writing a bunch of checks.
 
2014-08-12 08:23:14 PM  

Atomic Spunk: I wonder what his wife did to him to make him so angry?


Thanks Steven A.
 
2014-08-12 08:23:29 PM  
Oh Atlanta, you can be so Florida.
 
2014-08-12 08:27:03 PM  
You got a purdy mouth.

Would you like a cup of toilet wine before I violate your rights?
 
2014-08-12 08:29:01 PM  

CruJones: Is subby implying he got off light because he's a judge?  Because sadly it's typical.  The weird part was him using a public defender


Got off light? The night in jail wasn't punishment for a crime; he spent the night in jail because he was arrested late and had to wait until the next morning to make bail.

No good reason not to let the PD handle the bond hearing. He'll have his own attorney at trial.
 
2014-08-12 08:47:38 PM  
Legal justifications for use of force include self defense, defense of property, and defense of a third person so the investigating officer should be trying to figure out out who did what, when they did it, and why?  Intoxication is involved in many domestic disputes so it isn't always clear who started it so many officers just whomever was hurt the least and others almost always arrest the man.  In Austin, a supervisor's approval is needed to arrest both parties.  The reason for this policy is unknown but I suspect it is because doing arresting both complicates the prosecution.
 
2014-08-12 09:12:09 PM  

CruJones: Is subby implying he got off light because he's a judge?  Because sadly it's typical.  The weird part was him using a public defender


A lawyer once told me that public defenders spend more time in court defending clients than anyone else. If you don't have a complicated case, they're actually a really good lawyer to have, and if you want to cut a deal, they're the person that spends the most time negotiating with the prosecutors so they'll most likely get you a better deal than a paid attorney would.
 
2014-08-12 09:19:21 PM  
$5,000 personal bond is not bad for a misdemeanor family violence assault for a first timer.  Around here, the normal range for this type of arrest is $2,000 to $10,000.

The actual trial will not be in two weeks, that will be the first pretrial conference.  His attorney will request discovery and then the case will be reset for a month or two for the state to gather and produce the evidence.  The prosecution will turn over the discovery at the second pretrial conference and perhaps make an offer of dismissal in exchange for batterer intervention classes.  This will be around Thanksgiving.  They will reset for a third pretrial conference that will be around Christmas.  During that time the defense attorney will review the discovery and discuss potential defenses with his client.  If they don't accept the offer at the 3rd pretrial conference they'll probably go onto the jury trial docket with a first trial date around Valentines day.  The case will have to ride the trial docket for a few turns before it actually goes so June/July is realistic for trial.
 
2014-08-12 09:21:21 PM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: A lawyer once told me that public defenders spend more time in court defending clients than anyone else. If you don't have a complicated case, they're actually a really good lawyer to have, and if you want to cut a deal, they're the person that spends the most time negotiating with the prosecutors so they'll most likely get you a better deal than a paid attorney would.


You were obviously not talking to a good criminal defense attorney.
 
2014-08-12 09:28:30 PM  
This is the same judge that railroaded Don Siegelman.
 
2014-08-13 08:08:04 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: CruJones: Is subby implying he got off light because he's a judge?  Because sadly it's typical.  The weird part was him using a public defender

A lawyer once told me that public defenders spend more time in court defending clients than anyone else. If you don't have a complicated case, they're actually a really good lawyer to have, and if you want to cut a deal, they're the person that spends the most time negotiating with the prosecutors so they'll most likely get you a better deal than a paid attorney would.


That's sometimes true if you can't afford a GOOD defense attorney.  You can only afford uncle who handles wills and deeds?  Yeah...go with the PD, unless you're up on murder charges or something.

Serious charges, go with a serious defense attorney, if you can afford it.
 
2014-08-13 02:59:12 PM  

wambu: Oh Atlanta, you can be so Florida.


Judge is from Alabama.  We're not claiming him :)
 
2014-08-13 03:13:47 PM  

TheWhoppah: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: A lawyer once told me that public defenders spend more time in court defending clients than anyone else. If you don't have a complicated case, they're actually a really good lawyer to have, and if you want to cut a deal, they're the person that spends the most time negotiating with the prosecutors so they'll most likely get you a better deal than a paid attorney would.

You were obviously not talking to a good criminal defense attorney.


Agreed.  Private counsel is almost always a better choice.  Most public defenders are overworked and underpaid.  Often, they have so many cases that it juts up against the ethics line (i.e. the ability of one attorney to represent so many and to do so competently).  When one attorney is carrying that many cases at a time (as they usually are) they only have X amount of time a day to work on all those cases.   So naturally, there will have to be certain amount of rationing when it comes to attention paid to a particular case.  Taking more time for your case means depriving someone else of time on their case.  It's like Obamacare for defendants.  

Private counsel, on the other hand, has a lot more time to investigate cases and press well-researched and argued pretrial motions.  And of course, you try cases against them and win.  That's how you get the good offers--when they get them to the point in negotiations where they say to themselves "it's more than I wanted to offer, but it's not worth it he/she making me try the case and then maybe lose it too." 

Of course--that ain't cheap.
 
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