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(Medium)   It's widely accepted that injecting molten metal into your bloodstream will probably kill you, but now Chinese researchers say it might kill your tumors, too. Uh, yay?   (medium.com) divider line 28
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2014-08-12 09:16:39 AM
I've read comic books. I know where this is going.
 
2014-08-12 09:59:12 AM
Don't have access to article - medical experiments on prisoners? Wouldn't put it past them.
 
2014-08-12 10:14:16 AM
Just like how drinking gold is a preservative.
 
2014-08-12 10:16:29 AM
#include "wolverine.jpg"
 
2014-08-12 10:19:22 AM
Is this why Steve Jobs bought the company a few years before he sadly snuffed it?
 
2014-08-12 10:19:43 AM
Hoping for retractable claws, I'd probably get the wheelchair. Although the nickname "wheels" would be cool... mixed feelings
 
2014-08-12 10:20:34 AM

gopher321: Don't have access to article - medical experiments on prisoners? Wouldn't put it past them.


Christ, what an asshole.

Researchers have experimented with a number of blocking mechanisms such as blood clots, gels, balloons, glue, nanoparticles and so on. However, these techniques have never been entirely successful because the blockages can be washed away by the blood flow itself and the materials do not always fill blood vessels entirely, allowing blood to flow round them.

Today, Qian Wang and a couple of pals at Tsinghua University in Beijing propose a different approach. These guys say that it is possible to block blood vessels completely by filling them with liquid metal. And they have tested their idea both in vitro and in vivo on mice and rabbits to get a sense of how well it might work. (All their experiments were approved by their university's ethics committee.)
 
2014-08-12 10:21:35 AM
Hell injecting drain cleaner will kill your tumor also... along with everything else.
 
2014-08-12 10:24:57 AM
Well they're probably right; tumors can't live in a corpse, after all.
 
2014-08-12 10:25:26 AM

SirGunslinger: Hell injecting drain cleaner will kill your tumor also... along with everything else.


Yep. That's one of the reasons cancer is so hard to combat. Because it IS you. It's your cells going bugfarking nuts, and a lot of our current treatment methods really are "We are going to poison the shiat out of you, and hopefully your cancer will die first."
 
2014-08-12 10:27:02 AM
 
2014-08-12 10:28:17 AM

SirGunslinger: Hell injecting drain cleaner will kill your tumor also... along with everything else.


Isn't this essentially how chemotherapy works? I mean, it's not drain cleaner specifically, but it's some type of chemical that is poisonous to your body under carefully controlled amounts?
 
2014-08-12 10:29:40 AM

gopher321: Don't have access to article - medical experiments on prisoners? Wouldn't put it past them.


Animals, fortunately.  Looks pretty typical of a paper from a Chinese university; test something without much thought or examination of side effect.

For those that don't want to RTFA, they are injecting pure gallium (which is liquid at body temperature) into the veins to try to block blood flow to tumors.  Not surprisingly, the gallium was washing away and accumulating in the lungs and heart.  You know, in a super happy healthy way o.O
 
2014-08-12 10:57:25 AM

snowshovel: SirGunslinger: Hell injecting drain cleaner will kill your tumor also... along with everything else.

Isn't this essentially how chemotherapy works? I mean, it's not drain cleaner specifically, but it's some type of chemical that is poisonous to your body under carefully controlled amounts?


IIRC chemotherapy uses a drug that interferes with the ability of human cells to reproduce. Most of your cells don't need to do that, since they're already mature. But your skin, hair, intestinal lining, and if you're male, sperm cells do regularly die off and need to be replaced, so when your skin cells / hair follicles die, they're replaced as they normally would be, so they fall out. But it's not chemo killing the cells per se.
 
2014-08-12 11:15:19 AM

Hack Patooey: #include "wolverine.jpg"


One of the Chinese test subjects?

wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
 
2014-08-12 11:24:01 AM

gopher321: Don't have access to article - medical experiments on prisoners? Wouldn't put it past them.


Who knows more about iintra cranial hot lead injections in curing the disease of dissidentism?
 
2014-08-12 11:39:57 AM
Bah, people have been treating disease with mercury for hundreds or thousands of years, and that stuff is molten most of the time.

Old.
 
2014-08-12 12:06:59 PM
"Cave Johnson here, I own the place.  Been watching a lot of movies lately, and I saw something I thought would be a good project for the boys in the lab: Injectable liquid metal.  Imagine, unbreakable bones!  Using yourself as a giant antenna!  Being able to confuse airport metal detectors!  Anyway, none of that has worked yet, but we *did* find a mixture that's absolutely fantastic at killing the tumors you got from sitting on that folding chair, so we don't even have to open you up and scoop 'em out anymore.  No no, don't thank me, it's all in the name of Science.  Cave Johnson, we're done here."
 
2014-08-12 12:50:48 PM
What could possibly go wrong?

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2014-08-12 01:10:12 PM

snowshovel: SirGunslinger: Hell injecting drain cleaner will kill your tumor also... along with everything else.

Isn't this essentially how chemotherapy works? I mean, it's not drain cleaner specifically, but it's some type of chemical that is poisonous to your body under carefully controlled amounts?


After WWI scientists were studying the effects of mustard gas. They noticed that the gas affected cells that divide rapidly more than other slower dividing cells. Cancer is basically cells that divide much more rapidly than they are supposed to. So someone thought that maybe this could be used to treat cancer. The first chemo treatments were mustard gas derivatives. So yes, chemo is carefully controlled poison.
 
2014-08-12 01:40:41 PM
A mimetic polyalloy.


/obscure?
//no googling
 
2014-08-12 02:34:06 PM
Does make me wonder though if Ferrofluid could be used in the same way, assuming you could make it insoluble in blood.

Because then you could move it around with magnets to the target area, and get that shait out when you're done.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-08-12 04:33:15 PM

Vlad_the_Inaner: Does make me wonder though if Ferrofluid could be used in the same way, assuming you could make it insoluble in blood.

Because then you could move it around with magnets to the target area, and get that shait out when you're done.


[upload.wikimedia.org image 350x262]


Uh...is it actually soluble in blood? I would be pretty surprised to find it was.I mean, yes, our blood does contain iron, but in...well, much smaller form factor, so to speak.
 
2014-08-12 04:50:44 PM

untaken_name: Vlad_the_Inaner: Does make me wonder though if Ferrofluid could be used in the same way, assuming you could make it insoluble in blood.

Because then you could move it around with magnets to the target area, and get that shait out when you're done.


[upload.wikimedia.org image 350x262]

Uh...is it actually soluble in blood? I would be pretty surprised to find it was.I mean, yes, our blood does contain iron, but in...well, much smaller form factor, so to speak.


Without actually goggling it, I'd suspect it is a suspension of iron in oil (or silicone), therefore even if the oil isn't miscible, the iron particulates could separate out.  I sure wouldn't try it on me without finding out a lot more first.

Still, maybe someone could make something like it with the right properties given a nudge. For instance, does it have to be an actual fluid?  Could nanosized iron spheres pack tightly enough to block oxygen diffusion?  Seems likely if you can make them smaller than bloodcells.

/making them biologically inert/rust proof, but remain magnetic is another problem...  hmmm   Hemeatite could become a real ironic name.
 
2014-08-12 06:02:43 PM
This is China, they have to do SOMETHING with all that lead they have laying around.  Putting it in baby food and tampons has apparently become passe.  Why not cure cancer & overpopulation?
 
2014-08-12 06:14:08 PM

A10Mechanic: Hoping for retractable claws, I'd probably get the wheelchair. Although the nickname "wheels" would be cool... mixed feelings


You're the Legman.
 
2014-08-12 06:24:12 PM
www.extremetech.com
 
2014-08-12 06:37:53 PM
Isn't this how Emperor Chin died?
 
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