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(CityLab)   Need more proof that it just doesn't pay to host the Olympic games? Let's go back a whopping 10 years to the home of the Olympics: Athens   (citylab.com) divider line 32
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2014-08-11 07:55:25 PM
Because Greece didn't have the worst economic meltdown of all industrialized countries following the Great Shiatstorm, amirite?

Methinks they may have prioritized their budgets a little more austerely than funding something like "rowing stadium seat maintenance."
 
2014-08-11 09:54:08 PM
Seems remarkably un-looted, IMO.

If I were a poor Greek of a certain attitude toward society, that podium in the last picture would be in my basement and/or on ebay in about 5 seconds.
 
2014-08-11 10:31:06 PM
Give it 3,500 years, it'll be a great tourist attraction.
 
2014-08-11 10:36:46 PM
Are they crumbling, or had they still just not finished building them yet?

but come on, thats cherry picking. Greece was a shiathole before and after the Olympics. the venues will suffer the same fate. If you thought the greeks were going to show effort or initiative, you thought wrong.
 
2014-08-11 10:41:44 PM

dookdookdook: Seems remarkably un-looted, IMO.

If I were a poor Greek of a certain attitude toward society, that podium in the last picture would be in my basement and/or on ebay in about 5 seconds.


I doubt that is an olympic podium. The Panathinaikon stadium was an active venue before and after the 2004 games.
 
2014-08-11 10:42:16 PM
Vancouver didn't do too badly on the 2010 winter games.
 
2014-08-11 10:47:56 PM
One of the reasons the LA games in 1994 were so successful was that nearly all the venues used were pre-existing.  IIRC, only the velodrome needed to be built.
 
2014-08-11 10:53:28 PM

dookdookdook: Seems remarkably un-looted, IMO.

If I were a poor Greek of a certain attitude toward society, that podium in the last picture would be in my basement and/or on ebay in about 5 seconds.


I'm pretty sure that last picture is actually a site from the 1896 Olympics, the first modern Olympic games.
 
2014-08-11 10:53:38 PM
I'm not sure if that's more a reflection of the downside of hosting the Olympics, or the fact that Greece is possibly the most epically mismanaged nation this side of Zimbabwe.
 
2014-08-11 10:58:46 PM
Part of Greece's problem was that they could attract people from wealthier nations to their country for a relatively cheap vacation. Then the Euro came and messed that up.

I'm not saying that things were peachy keen before the euro, but when I visited in 2005, there was a lot of grousing from the locals we talked to; the Euro basically stopped the gravy train.
 
2014-08-11 11:07:39 PM

Wolfmanjames: One of the reasons the LA games in 1994 were so successful was that nearly all the venues used were pre-existing.  IIRC, only the velodrome needed to be built.


Yeah, this is pretty much the key to a successful hosting job. Look around and see how much stuff you already have built. Use it. If the IOC tells you they really need new venues, just laugh at them. If you don't get the Olympics, oh well. It'll be on the IOC when they and the host city have to go screaming at the construction crews again when the construction crews know full well they can charge whatever the hell they want and the city basically has no choice but to pony up lest they look like idiots in front of the entire planet.

Hi, Rio. How's that going, by the way?
 
2014-08-11 11:34:58 PM

zeroman987: Part of Greece's problem was that they could attract people from wealthier nations to their country for a relatively cheap vacation. Then the Euro came and messed that up.

I'm not saying that things were peachy keen before the euro, but when I visited in 2005, there was a lot of grousing from the locals we talked to; the Euro basically stopped the gravy train.


You know what else stopped the gravy train? Rich people not paying their taxes. That kind of hurt, too.
 
2014-08-11 11:46:21 PM
There's a handful of cities that have recently hosted the games that could host them again. Los Angeles, Vancouver, Sydney, Seoul, London are all in positions where they could host them again. So why not rotate the games between these places, instead of spending $51 to build places with no pillows or water?

Wait, I forgot. It's the IOC. They make Zimbabwe look honest.
 
2014-08-12 12:00:04 AM
Wish they would link to the full photo set.

The shooting venue got used exactly twice for international competitions, IIRC. What a farking waste.
 
2014-08-12 12:00:35 AM
I live less than 5 miles from the 1996 tennis facility. It sits unused, unmaintained and overgrown for at least 5 years now.
 
2014-08-12 12:02:04 AM
Atlanta is holdin' on pretty well.
 
2014-08-12 12:07:30 AM

The Bestest: I live less than 5 miles from the 1996 tennis facility. It sits unused, unmaintained and overgrown for at least 5 years now.

Well, I'd guess there are other places to play tennis that aren't in Stone Mountain or Tucker.

 
2014-08-12 12:09:21 AM

Wolfmanjames: One of the reasons the LA games in 1994 1984 were so successful was that nearly all the venues used were pre-existing.  IIRC, only the velodrome needed to be built.


Only one digit off.
 
2014-08-12 12:18:19 AM

ThisIsntMe: Well, I'd guess there are other places to play tennis that aren't in Stone Mountain or Tucker.


There's been talk for a few years now of turning the place (and the abandoned Target next door) into this big sports and entertainment complex, but it's been just that.. talk.
 
2014-08-12 12:24:09 AM

Khazar-Khum: There's a handful of cities that have recently hosted the games that could host them again. Los Angeles, Vancouver, Sydney, Seoul, London are all in positions where they could host them again. So why not rotate the games between these places, instead of spending $51 to build places with no pillows or water?

Wait, I forgot. It's the IOC. They make Zimbabwe look honest.


I made a blog post during Sochi as to why you're never going to see that. The 99-cent version:

1: Logistics. Even if the city remains the same, the events change. If the Olympics add a new event, the city would have to find some place to put that event.
2: You think it's corrupt now? Wait until you get people bidding to be permanent host. You won't be able to fend off the bribery attempts with a taser, and just imagine if Dubai managed to land 'permanent host' status because money. Sometimes the suitable host loses. 2004 also saw a bid by Rome (and Cape Town, Stockholm and Buenos Aires)
3. Sooner or later, probably sooner, cities that didn't win the permanent hosting gig are going to start their own events. With blackjack, and hookers. Or start angling for the Olympics to be made mobile again so they might get to host them. This happened even in the ANCIENT Olympics. Have you ever heard of the Nemean Games, the Pythian Games and the Isthmian Games? They all were launched by cities that wanted their own big-time sporting event, and patronized by athletes that wanted more on their resume than coming up short in the Olympics that one time. And they weren't even the only ones; they were just the ones that wound up getting to be considered on par with the Olympics during their time. Every tiny little burg worth half a damn held a competition.
 
2014-08-12 12:33:24 AM
Things are so bad a bycyclist is confused with a pedestrian.
 
2014-08-12 12:59:17 AM

Raider_dad: Things are so bad a bycyclist is confused with a pedestrian.


Not just that, the whole thing is a smorgasbord of piss poor editing.

cdn.theatlantic.com

"A podium is seen inside the marble Panathinaikon stadium in Athens. The Panathinaikon stadium was the venue of the first modern Olympics in 1896 and was also used for the Archery events and the finish of the Marathon during the Athens 2004 Games. (REUTERS/Yannis Behrakis)"

There ain't no podium in that picture you idiots...
 
2014-08-12 05:59:05 AM
Tiesto seems to have done OK out of it.
 
2014-08-12 06:58:34 AM
At least in Brazil the cartels can take them over when they're done and pay for maintenance. Then they'll have lots of headless body storage.
 
2014-08-12 08:58:19 AM

abhorrent1: At least in Brazil the cartels can take them over when they're done and pay for maintenance. Then they'll have lots of headless body storage.


With a sign outside saying "dead mestizos stored here?"
 
2014-08-12 09:12:24 AM

Khazar-Khum: There's a handful of cities that have recently hosted the games that could host them again. Los Angeles, Vancouver, Sydney, Seoul, London are all in positions where they could host them again. So why not rotate the games between these places, instead of spending $51 to build places with no pillows or water?

Wait, I forgot. It's the IOC. They make Zimbabwe look honest.


Not sure about the others but I know that at least for vancouver you would need to build at the very least a new olympic village. The one they used in 2010 got sold off as waterfront condos after the games were over.
 
2014-08-12 09:32:33 AM

Gosling: Wolfmanjames: One of the reasons the LA games in 1994 were so successful was that nearly all the venues used were pre-existing.  IIRC, only the velodrome needed to be built.

Yeah, this is pretty much the key to a successful hosting job. Look around and see how much stuff you already have built. Use it. If the IOC tells you they really need new venues, just laugh at them. If you don't get the Olympics, oh well. It'll be on the IOC when they and the host city have to go screaming at the construction crews again when the construction crews know full well they can charge whatever the hell they want and the city basically has no choice but to pony up lest they look like idiots in front of the entire planet.

Hi, Rio. How's that going, by the way?


This was New Yorks play for the 2012 games. We didnt just have stadiums, but we were building all brand-new ones anyway. CitiField, Yankee Stadium, Giants Stadium, Redbull Arena, and Barclays Center were all brand new buildings that were going to happen regardless, and MSG was going to either be built new, or completely renovated (which it was). Hell, they were even planning on using the Worlds Fair ponds for the boat racing.

And its New York, so the mass transit system and hotel bed counts were already there, too.

The only thing new that would need to be built, would be the 'olympic village', but the spot that would have been the OV has already been developed into Condos and Rental towers.

NYC could have done just about nothing extra and it would have hosted the games in stride, but i guess we didn't have a big enough bribe.
 
2014-08-12 09:54:13 AM
LOOK WHAT THE OLYMPICS CAUSED!!!

static.onemansblog.com
www.zerohedge.com
bilbo.economicoutlook.net

LET THIS BE A WARNING TO ALL NATIONS CONSIDERING HOSTING THE OLYMPICS!
 
2014-08-12 10:09:18 AM

LemSkroob: Are they crumbling, or had they still just not finished building them yet?

but come on, thats cherry picking. Greece was a shiathole before and after the Olympics. the venues will suffer the same fate. If you thought the greeks were going to show effort or initiative, you thought wrong.


The same Greeks that work more hours each year than the rest of Europe?
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-17155304
 
2014-08-12 10:13:43 AM
Lay off the Greeks, they invented civilization.

sharpmagazine.com
 
2014-08-12 10:43:01 AM

BKITU: Because Greece didn't have the worst economic meltdown of all industrialized countries following the Great Shiatstorm, amirite?

Methinks they may have prioritized their budgets a little more austerely than funding something like "rowing stadium seat maintenance."


http://jcrandall-finalproject.blogspot.com/2011/09/post-event-condit io ns-olympic-villages.html

Here is a collection of some other venues that have gone downhill after the games.
 
2014-08-12 02:14:00 PM

BKITU: Because Greece didn't have the worst economic meltdown of all industrialized countries following the Great Shiatstorm, amirite?

Methinks they may have prioritized their budgets a little more austerely than funding something like "rowing stadium seat maintenance."


CityLab (formerly Atlantic Cities) is notorious for ignoring complexity over their favored narratives all while pretending to be intellectual. It's not quite the American Thinker for urbanists, but it's close. I bet the Olympics contributed to the meltdown and that the meltdown contributed to the decay of the Olympic sites. That would be an interesting article, but instead here's some ruin porn!

/Richard Florida is a hack
//Angry geographer
 
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