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(Washington Post)   In Japan, ramen kings worry that their favorite noodle dish is being ruined by becoming too mainstream, no longer interesting or original. "All the different varieties have been tried, everything has been tried"   (washingtonpost.com ) divider line 40
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2014-08-11 12:41:10 PM  
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2014-08-11 12:48:46 PM  
Maybe they need to ask a cat about how to make a good bowl of ramen
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2014-08-11 12:56:07 PM  
It's common as dirt. It's become refined, it's become hip, but it's the Japanese version of tacos and hotdogs. Mainstream? It's one of the most popular dishes in your f*cking country. It's ubiquitous to the region. It has been mainstream for a LONG ass while. The only other street food that comes close to its popularity is sushi now, and that was pretty damn low class for a long while.

And yeah, it's pretty much all been tried. Which is why folks in America keep plugging away at non-traditional methods and broths, because it's been done again and again. Play with the noodles, play with the broth, heck look at your ingredients, and bring stuff in from outside. I think a vegetable ramen with chayote and roasted corn would kick ass. The limit is your imaginations, and your own imposed limitations are what are hindering folks about what is proper ramen.
 
2014-08-11 01:12:06 PM  
I've tried them all. I'm something of a connoisseur.
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2014-08-11 02:59:55 PM  
Moar salt!
 
2014-08-11 03:02:59 PM  
So quality isn't the issue.

Taste isn't the issue.

Healthy ingredients isn't the issue.

VARIETY!  That's the issue!

/I quit eating baked potatoes years ago. I tried all the varieties and got bored. Now I eat roasted dirt clods. That red clay of Georgia? Nummy.
 
2014-08-11 03:08:18 PM  
Sliding Carp:

(golf clap)

Tampopo reference.

どうもありがとうございました
 
2014-08-11 03:09:35 PM  
Wait, is this why there's crap like cucumber-flavored Pepsi over there? They just want variety?
 
Ant
2014-08-11 03:27:30 PM  

Obbi: Wait, is this why there's crap like cucumber-flavored Pepsi over there? They just want variety?


Barely-sweetened cucumber soda is really good. I don't know about cucumber in Pepsi though. That doesn't sound very good.
 
2014-08-11 03:31:40 PM  

Ant: Obbi: Wait, is this why there's crap like cucumber-flavored Pepsi over there? They just want variety?

Barely-sweetened cucumber soda is really good. I don't know about cucumber in Pepsi though. That doesn't sound very good.


This, however:

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Is the initial post.
 
2014-08-11 03:33:33 PM  

Snarfangel: I've tried them all. I'm something of a connoisseur.
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I have a hard time finding any but beef, chicken and shrimp in the store.
 
2014-08-11 03:35:28 PM  

hubiestubert: It's common as dirt. It's become refined, it's become hip, but it's the Japanese version of tacos and hotdogs. Mainstream? It's one of the most popular dishes in your f*cking country. It's ubiquitous to the region. It has been mainstream for a LONG ass while. The only other street food that comes close to its popularity is sushi now, and that was pretty damn low class for a long while.

And yeah, it's pretty much all been tried. Which is why folks in America keep plugging away at non-traditional methods and broths, because it's been done again and again. Play with the noodles, play with the broth, heck look at your ingredients, and bring stuff in from outside. I think a vegetable ramen with chayote and roasted corn would kick ass. The limit is your imaginations, and your own imposed limitations are what are hindering folks about what is proper ramen.


I think it gets way too much play. There's hundreds of thousands of different varieties of Asian noodle and noodle soup dishes, but for some reason, pho and ramen get way more play than is warranted.

I'd like to see American restaunteurs take on the Chinese/Korean Zhajiangmian/Jajangmyeon.

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2014-08-11 03:37:30 PM  

hubiestubert: And yeah, it's pretty much all been tried.


and saimin is better anyway. or okinawan soba
 
2014-08-11 03:48:12 PM  
 
2014-08-11 04:08:21 PM  
I'm more of a Japanese curry man myself.
 
2014-08-11 04:09:21 PM  

RexTalionis: I'd like to see American restaunteurs take on the Chinese/Korean Zhajiangmian/Jajangmyeon.


There are at least 5 restaurants within 5 miles of my house that serve Jajangmyeon and I don't even live in a Korean Neighborhood.  It's not that uncommon in the Baltimore / DC area at least.  I guess it just depends on where you live.
 
2014-08-11 04:18:54 PM  

RexTalionis: I'd like to see American restaunteurs take on the Chinese/Korean Zhajiangmian/Jajangmyeon.


www.washingtoncitypaper.com
 
2014-08-11 05:20:36 PM  

Sliding Carp: RexTalionis: I'd like to see American restaunteurs take on the Chinese/Korean Zhajiangmian/Jajangmyeon.

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Chili Mac is a bit different from Zhajiangmian
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Chil mac is mostly beef on thin noodles. Zhajiangmian is mostly pork and soybean on a thicker noodle.

and Jajangmyeon is mostly black bean and some pork over thin noodles
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Jajang focuses more on the black bean paste than Zha Jiang does with it's soy base.
 
2014-08-11 05:22:52 PM  

degenerate-afro: RexTalionis: I'd like to see American restaunteurs take on the Chinese/Korean Zhajiangmian/Jajangmyeon.

There are at least 5 restaurants within 5 miles of my house that serve Jajangmyeon and I don't even live in a Korean Neighborhood.  It's not that uncommon in the Baltimore / DC area at least.  I guess it just depends on where you live.


Sadly, rather uncommon here. I'm sure it's available in NYC, but in CT and non-NYC areas of NY and NJ (with the exception of H-Mart, perhaps), it is practically nonexistent.
 
2014-08-11 05:28:15 PM  
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2014-08-11 05:36:37 PM  
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2014-08-11 05:51:39 PM  
I know it is a Korean commercial and not Japanese. I still think it deserves posting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhJSGKggicI

May not technically be NSFW but if you are at work I'd hate to have to try an explain it if they don't see it all.
 
2014-08-11 05:52:55 PM  
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2014-08-11 06:10:12 PM  
 
2014-08-11 06:11:47 PM  
 
2014-08-11 06:14:36 PM  

Sliding Carp: RexTalionis: I'd like to see American restaunteurs take on the Chinese/Korean Zhajiangmian/Jajangmyeon.

[www.washingtoncitypaper.com image 400x300]


Mmm, frozen sugar-cheese vomit and noodles...
 
2014-08-11 07:05:17 PM  
degenerate-afro: Sliding Carp: RexTalionis: I'd like to see American restaunteurs take on the Chinese/Korean Zhajiangmian/Jajangmyeon.

Chil mac is mostly beef on thin noodles. Zhajiangmian is mostly pork and soybean on a thicker noodle.

Uh, that is not chili Mac that is Cincinnati style chili, chili Mac is served with elbow macaroni (thus Mac). Before correcting someone please try to understand what they are talking about, kthnks
 
2014-08-11 07:25:18 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Moar salt!


I was shopping at my local asian mart and noticed that some packs of noodles had 2300 mg of sodium in them. That's like the maximum daily recommended intake right there.
 
2014-08-11 07:30:19 PM  
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2014-08-11 07:57:10 PM  

Sliding Carp: RexTalionis: I'd like to see American restaunteurs take on the Chinese/Korean Zhajiangmian/Jajangmyeon.

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It totalle looks like that when you open the package. :P
 
2014-08-11 08:26:23 PM  

Gleeman: [1-media-cdn.foolz.us image 656x368]


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2014-08-11 09:16:47 PM  

RexTalionis: for some reason, pho and ramen get way more play than is warranted.


I deny this entirely.

I think ramen is, like pho or spagetti, just better.

People want a wet-hot meal with carbs, salt, and meat. So wet-hot foods with carbs, salt, and meat do much better than those which don't.
 
2014-08-12 12:08:28 AM  
The Japanese equivalent of a cheap burger is... too mainstream?

How does that even happen, isn't it basically what defines the main-stream?
 
2014-08-12 01:34:43 AM  

Snarfangel: I've tried them all. I'm something of a connoisseur.
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I'm certain Nissin deeply appreciates your efforts and loyalty, but you should try Indomie Mi Goreng BBQ Chicken flavor.

Also, --and this isn't directed at you personally, Snarfangel-- ramen isn't actually a dried brick of fried noodles and a packet of salty soup base. That would be like saying mashed potatoes are flakes in a box that you add to hot water and milk, or that gravy is powder you mix with water and heat up or that butter is made of partially hydrogenated vegetable oil. Eating proper ramen is life-changing. I know it was played for laughs in Tampopo and to disappointing lead actress performance in The Ramen Girl, but it really is a whole different thing from even the best instant or quick ramen.

fo_sho!: I'm more of a Japanese curry man myself.


Mmmmmmmm! Japanese curried rice (or カレーライス, <kare raisu>) is my favoritest thing when I'm out of sorts. Japanese curried noodles or kare pan is good for putting a body to right, too.

I like it with all kinds of veg and beans or just cooked ground meat like sloppy joes, as well as the classic way with diced meat, onion, carrot and potato, but hell, just the sauce over sticky rice is good enough on a day when you have a cold. A cube of curry roux cooked up with a bit of water or broth makes a lovely sauce over eggs on toast for breakfast. Also on mochi. And grilled meats, hot dogs, meatballs or meatloaf. Or to replace regular gravy in poutine. And cold, mixed with mayonnaise, it's good for sammich spread, potato salad, devilled eggs or putting on cold steamed cauliflower. Or mixed with cream cheese and chopped green onion as fried wonton filling. Or mixed with Greek yogurt and powdered sugar to make frosting for spicy zucchini-jalapeno cupcakes...

...What?
 
2014-08-12 09:25:57 AM  

Jim_Callahan: The Japanese equivalent of a cheap burger is... too mainstream?

How does that even happen, isn't it basically what defines the main-stream?


It's more like the Japanese equivalent to a gourmet burger. Ramen, like Sushi and other Japanese foods, is treated like an art in Japan. From the broth that they cook for more than a day, to the noodles which have to be just right, there's nothing cheap about it.
 
2014-08-12 09:34:01 AM  
They need to hire these guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-fbDGpPgL0


//No bear paws, please.
///or Frisk
 
2014-08-12 01:36:12 PM  
Noodles are boring.
 
2014-08-12 02:20:10 PM  

WhiskeySticks: Noodles are boring.


...Into what?
 
2014-08-12 03:35:07 PM  
Evvvvvverybody loves ramen........   (Say it in your best Brad Garrett voice.)
 
2014-08-12 06:45:34 PM  
Grotesk:
I'm certain Nissin deeply appreciates your efforts and loyalty, but you should try Indomie Mi Goreng BBQ Chicken flavor.

Thanks for the tip, got a case on the way from Amazon.  I'm always curious about new ramen.
 
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