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2014-08-11 12:42:45 PM  
He isn't nice.

...he's just rude to her

...he's just being awful.


Yes.

Yes!.

Yes!!!

I am so ready for a grumpy older looking Doctor.
 
2014-08-11 12:53:58 PM  
He's older.  OH NO, I'VE SAID TOO MUCH!!
 
2014-08-11 01:10:10 PM  
These are spoilers? There are fans who don't know these things already?

And curse your eyes for saying "sweetie", subby. You made me think River Song was part of the spoilers.
 
2014-08-11 02:59:32 PM  
As long as the TARDIS still makes the "whooosh, whooosh" sound, I'm okay with it.
 
2014-08-11 03:47:59 PM  

Son of Thunder: These are spoilers? There are fans who don't know these things already?

And curse your eyes for saying "sweetie", subby. You made me think River Song was part of the spoilers.



You're welcome :D
 
2014-08-11 03:52:25 PM  
I want him to constantly swear like "In the Loop"

Dr what is that thing over there?

Listen you insufferable twat-knocker that is the farking tardis farking control module.  If you lay one of your farking fingers on one single blinking farking light I swear I will kick you right in the coont.  Is that clear?  Good now go over there and shut the fark up.
 
2014-08-11 03:57:37 PM  
I never watched the pre-9th seasons, but I am happy about an angrier Doctor. Eccleston and Tennant could scare any creature in the universe using just their words. A wrathful Doctor is a scary thing. A lot of the darkness was missing in Smith's run.
 
2014-08-11 04:01:38 PM  
But....but....bowties are cool!
/So are fezzes.
 
2014-08-11 04:03:14 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: I want him to constantly swear like "In the Loop"

Dr what is that thing over there?

Listen you insufferable twat-knocker that is the farking tardis farking control module.  If you lay one of your farking fingers on one single blinking farking light I swear I will kick you right in the coont.  Is that clear?  Good now go over there and shut the fark up.


Still a kids show :)
but that being said

Now that the doctor has dealt with the big trauma of the Nuwhoniverse, I am hoping that we can get back to the Pertwee/Baker doctor that has the gravitas and walks into a room owning it, once the wacky regeneration adventures are over :)
 
2014-08-11 04:12:06 PM  
That still won't prevent the usual folks from biatching and moaning about how the show runner is a hack and the new Doctor sucks balls, and both can DIAF. Of course it never occurs to them to stop watching if they don't like it.
 
2014-08-11 04:12:43 PM  
LACROIX, Sweetie
 
2014-08-11 04:31:59 PM  

Mr Tarantula: I never watched the pre-9th seasons, but I am happy about an angrier Doctor. Eccleston and Tennant could scare any creature in the universe using just their words. A wrathful Doctor is a scary thing. A lot of the darkness was missing in Smith's run.


The simple fact that you found Tennant at all intimidating proves the need for what Capaldi's run is rumored to be.  If he truly is going to be a retro-incarnation, I am super excited.

Not sure how most of the vocal NuWhovians are going to deal with a stern, professor-like, not-interested-in-boning Doctor, but it'll be good for them.

As for Smith, he never stood a chance for most people.  No one ever likes the Doctor after their first (citation needed) and for the overwhelming number of viewers (many of whom skipped Eccleston all together), that was Smith.  He was too different and he wasn't what the Doctor was "supposed" to be for them.   I liked him the whole run (if not the scripts), but those of us who grew up on the Doctor got over the jarring changes decades ago.
 
2014-08-11 04:34:50 PM  

quatchi: He isn't nice.

...he's just rude to her

...he's just being awful.

Yes.

Yes!.

Yes!!!

I am so ready for a grumpy older looking Doctor.


Sweet, we'll finally see what Six should've been
 
2014-08-11 04:41:44 PM  

Weidbrewer: Mr Tarantula: I never watched the pre-9th seasons, but I am happy about an angrier Doctor. Eccleston and Tennant could scare any creature in the universe using just their words. A wrathful Doctor is a scary thing. A lot of the darkness was missing in Smith's run.

The simple fact that you found Tennant at all intimidating proves the need for what Capaldi's run is rumored to be.  If he truly is going to be a retro-incarnation, I am super excited.

Not sure how most of the vocal NuWhovians are going to deal with a stern, professor-like, not-interested-in-boning Doctor, but it'll be good for them.

As for Smith, he never stood a chance for most people.  No one ever likes the Doctor after their first (citation needed) and for the overwhelming number of viewers (many of whom skipped Eccleston all together), that was Smith.  He was too different and he wasn't what the Doctor was "supposed" to be for them.   I liked him the whole run (if not the scripts), but those of us who grew up on the Doctor got over the jarring changes decades ago.


Yeah, kinda stoked to see an "old school" Doctor for once.
 
2014-08-11 04:49:17 PM  

russlar: quatchi: He isn't nice.

...he's just rude to her

...he's just being awful.

Yes.

Yes!.

Yes!!!

I am so ready for a grumpy older looking Doctor.

Sweet, we'll finally see what Six should've been


I always thought Nine was what Six shoudl have been. A PTSD, "Darker" Doctor
 
2014-08-11 04:51:40 PM  

Weidbrewer: Mr Tarantula: I never watched the pre-9th seasons, but I am happy about an angrier Doctor. Eccleston and Tennant could scare any creature in the universe using just their words. A wrathful Doctor is a scary thing. A lot of the darkness was missing in Smith's run.

The simple fact that you found Tennant at all intimidating proves the need for what Capaldi's run is rumored to be.  If he truly is going to be a retro-incarnation, I am super excited.

Not sure how most of the vocal NuWhovians are going to deal with a stern, professor-like, not-interested-in-boning Doctor, but it'll be good for them.

As for Smith, he never stood a chance for most people.  No one ever likes the Doctor after their first (citation needed) and for the overwhelming number of viewers (many of whom skipped Eccleston all together), that was Smith.  He was too different and he wasn't what the Doctor was "supposed" to be for them.   I liked him the whole run (if not the scripts), but those of us who grew up on the Doctor got over the jarring changes decades ago.


Tennant had his moments. I'm not so sure I'd go so far as to call him intimidating, but he certainly had his dark moments, much more so than Smith. Smith did have a few minor darker moments, one of which is kinda glossed over by many folks. The episode "Amy's Choice" with the bit with the Dreamlord character, where Amy and Rory are asking about who he was and the Doctor basically says, "No, the dreamlord was me". Smith did the "Old man in a young body" bit pretty well, and played the Doctor as a bit cocky at times.

To this day I'm still disappointed that Eccleston didn't have more time as the Doctor. He did a pained and sometimes angry Doctor quite well, and "Dalek" and "Doctor Dances" remain a couple of my favorite episodes of new Who.
 
2014-08-11 05:13:30 PM  
I have watched the first 2 episodes that keep getting "leaked".
I like Capaldi, really starting to dislike Clara and the stories are rather disappointing.

Yes, he is really snarky to Clara.
 
2014-08-11 05:26:01 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: ...
To this day I'm still disappointed that Eccleston didn't have more time as the Doctor. He did a pained and sometimes angry Doctor quite well, and "Dalek" and "Doctor Dances" remain a couple of my favorite episodes of new Who.


I have to agree, I liked Eccleston and wish I could have seen more of him as the Doctor.

Smith is my favorite so far but will be interested in Capaldi.
 
2014-08-11 05:28:48 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge: I have watched the first 2 episodes that keep getting "leaked".
I like Capaldi, really starting to dislike Clara and the stories are rather disappointing.

Yes, he is really snarky to Clara.


I, for one, think it would be terrible to see these episodes before broadcast and violate copyright as well.

/EIP?
 
2014-08-11 06:18:04 PM  

lake_huron: Herr Flick's Revenge: I have watched the first 2 episodes that keep getting "leaked".
I like Capaldi, really starting to dislike Clara and the stories are rather disappointing.

Yes, he is really snarky to Clara.

I, for one, think it would be terrible to see these episodes before broadcast and violate copyright as well.

/EIP?


Or even the leaked opening title sequence which seems to have vanished from the internet.
 
2014-08-11 06:24:51 PM  

lake_huron: Herr Flick's Revenge: I have watched the first 2 episodes that keep getting "leaked".
I like Capaldi, really starting to dislike Clara and the stories are rather disappointing.

Yes, he is really snarky to Clara.

I, for one, think it would be terrible to see these episodes before broadcast and violate copyright as well.

/EIP?


I subscribe to Uverse, which includes BBC America.
They get their money from me.

If I torrent a show and I like it, when it drops to a reasonable price I will buy the blu ray, DVD or iTunes season.

I want the shows I like to succeed.
 
2014-08-11 06:36:10 PM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: LACROIX, Sweetie


That's what I was thinking too.

/a knitting needle
 
2014-08-11 06:37:28 PM  

smd31: Dingleberry Dickwad: ...
To this day I'm still disappointed that Eccleston didn't have more time as the Doctor. He did a pained and sometimes angry Doctor quite well, and "Dalek" and "Doctor Dances" remain a couple of my favorite episodes of new Who.

I have to agree, I liked Eccleston and wish I could have seen more of him as the Doctor.

Smith is my favorite so far but will be interested in Capaldi.


I think Eccleston did the serious bits better. His angry moments were more calculating, fear inspiring as opposed to Smith's half-panic. He was ok at light-hearted too, until he broke out that goofy smile.

/Smith wins at threatening monologues though
 
2014-08-11 07:05:48 PM  

CyberKultist: smd31: Dingleberry Dickwad: ...
To this day I'm still disappointed that Eccleston didn't have more time as the Doctor. He did a pained and sometimes angry Doctor quite well, and "Dalek" and "Doctor Dances" remain a couple of my favorite episodes of new Who.

I have to agree, I liked Eccleston and wish I could have seen more of him as the Doctor.

Smith is my favorite so far but will be interested in Capaldi.

I think Eccleston did the serious bits better. His angry moments were more calculating, fear inspiring as opposed to Smith's half-panic. He was ok at light-hearted too, until he broke out that goofy smile.

/Smith wins at threatening monologues though


It's one of the fun things with DW. A simple angry doctor forever would get boring. But go angry->adventurious->weird->angry and enough time passes to make it interesting/new again. I'm ready for the new season
 
2014-08-11 07:17:35 PM  

TheManofPA: CyberKultist: smd31: Dingleberry Dickwad: ...
To this day I'm still disappointed that Eccleston didn't have more time as the Doctor. He did a pained and sometimes angry Doctor quite well, and "Dalek" and "Doctor Dances" remain a couple of my favorite episodes of new Who.

I have to agree, I liked Eccleston and wish I could have seen more of him as the Doctor.

Smith is my favorite so far but will be interested in Capaldi.

I think Eccleston did the serious bits better. His angry moments were more calculating, fear inspiring as opposed to Smith's half-panic. He was ok at light-hearted too, until he broke out that goofy smile.

/Smith wins at threatening monologues though

It's one of the fun things with DW. A simple angry doctor forever would get boring. But go angry->adventurious->weird->angry and enough time passes to make it interesting/new again. I'm ready for the new season


Yeah. Not that 9 was always pissed, but it may be time. Trailers make the new Doctor seem determined to make up for his past, not matter what it takes.

/ready too. so close to "...soon.jpg" time I can taste it...
 
2014-08-11 08:39:59 PM  

Gary-L: Son of Thunder: These are spoilers? There are fans who don't know these things already?

And curse your eyes for saying "sweetie", subby. You made me think River Song was part of the spoilers.


You're welcome :D


A pox on your house for that dirty trick! Sweetie, indeed. I would toss Clara into the sun myself if we could have River Song pop in every episode.
 
2014-08-11 08:40:14 PM  

Weidbrewer: As for Smith, he never stood a chance for most people.  No one ever likes the Doctor after their first (citation needed) and for the overwhelming number of viewers (many of whom skipped Eccleston all together), that was Smith.  He was too different and he wasn't what the Doctor was "supposed" to be for them.   I liked him the whole run (if not the scripts), but those of us who grew up on the Doctor got over the jarring changes decades ago.


Smith was my Doctor, liked him more than the others.

As for an angrier Doctor now... well, I don't know. Now that he knows he didn't kill his species, why should he be angrier than the previous Doctors? Sure, he can be grumpy because he's an old fart now like the early Doctors, but angry doesn't really make sense from a character development standpoint. I am worried that all this anger is just a gimmick to make him radically different from his predecessors that leads to him acting like an irrational, unreasonable dick.
 
2014-08-11 11:33:51 PM  
So.. Twelve equals Three plus Six? Or is he now being properly identified as Fourteen?
 
2014-08-12 12:10:11 AM  

Grotesk: So.. Twelve equals Three plus Six? Or is he now being properly identified as Fourteen?


Okay, here is the doctor math:

There were 8 doctors in the classic series. (
1 War Doctor  (John Hurt)
and then three doctors since then (Eccleston, Tennant and Smith)

Capaldi is the thirteenth incarnation of the being known as the Doctor; but refered to as the Twelfth  Doctor because the War doctor never though of himself as the Doctor.

/And yes the the question of final regeneration was addressed in the episode where Smith regenerated into Capaldi. So there will be plenty of Doctor Who to go around.
 
2014-08-12 12:28:23 AM  

lake_huron: I, for one, think it would be terrible to see these episodes before broadcast and violate copyright as well.


Consider me a terrible person as well.

Granted I will rewatch watch the episodes at launch time as well.
 
2014-08-12 01:17:31 AM  

Klopfer: Weidbrewer: As for Smith, he never stood a chance for most people.  No one ever likes the Doctor after their first (citation needed) and for the overwhelming number of viewers (many of whom skipped Eccleston all together), that was Smith.  He was too different and he wasn't what the Doctor was "supposed" to be for them.   I liked him the whole run (if not the scripts), but those of us who grew up on the Doctor got over the jarring changes decades ago.

Smith was my Doctor, liked him more than the others.

As for an angrier Doctor now... well, I don't know. Now that he knows he didn't kill his species, why should he be angrier than the previous Doctors? Sure, he can be grumpy because he's an old fart now like the early Doctors, but angry doesn't really make sense from a character development standpoint. I am worried that all this anger is just a gimmick to make him radically different from his predecessors that leads to him acting like an irrational, unreasonable dick.


In a normal show I'd agree with you, but in Nu Who it isn't the Doctor that develops as a character, at least not much. The companions are the ones we see develop. The Doctor is mostly static during each incarnation, and there doesn't always need to be a rhyme or reason to how his personality comes out when he regenerates. From the one episode that I saw (yeah, I couldn't wait, so what) it's not so much that the Doctor is an angry person now, but he doesn't put up with shiat as much, there's a harder edge to him. I'm willing to wait and see how it goes.
 
2014-08-12 02:51:23 AM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: That still won't prevent the usual folks from biatching and moaning about how the show runner is a hack and the new Doctor sucks balls, and both can DIAF. Of course it never occurs to them to stop watching if they don't like it.


Have you not seen the new fashion in anti-Moffat hate?  Take a few out of context quotes from Capaldi, and twist them into the idea that Capaldi is in a battle to the death with Moffat over creative control of the show.  That Capaldi is on set arguing with Moffat over his awful racist, sexist scripts and winning, because he's an old, established actor with power, not a powerless, gullible n00b like Matt Smith.

The can't cope with the cognitive dissonance that a respected superfan like Capaldi would actually like Moffat's show and scripts.  They can't hate on him like Smith.  So they've already decided that anything they perceive as good in 12th's run will be due to Capaldi's defiance of Moffat.

/Yes, they are indeed crazy
//God, I wish they would stop watching
 
2014-08-12 03:34:09 AM  

Klopfer: Weidbrewer: As for Smith, he never stood a chance for most people.  No one ever likes the Doctor after their first (citation needed) and for the overwhelming number of viewers (many of whom skipped Eccleston all together), that was Smith.  He was too different and he wasn't what the Doctor was "supposed" to be for them.   I liked him the whole run (if not the scripts), but those of us who grew up on the Doctor got over the jarring changes decades ago.

Smith was my Doctor, liked him more than the others.

As for an angrier Doctor now... well, I don't know. Now that he knows he didn't kill his species, why should he be angrier than the previous Doctors? Sure, he can be grumpy because he's an old fart now like the early Doctors, but angry doesn't really make sense from a character development standpoint. I am worried that all this anger is just a gimmick to make him radically different from his predecessors that leads to him acting like an irrational, unreasonable dick.


Well, when you realize that for the past 600+ years of your life have been shaped by losing your home and that some of your actions are a direct result of thinking your home was lost, and now your home is potentially out there. You might be regretting a couple things. Or even knowing that the past couple hundred years of your life have been spent on one planet, with millions dying, while you tried to save yourself and the Time Lords...again. The doctor has always had a lot of things to be angry about but usually just gets past it by running away to a new adventure. Also, based on other moments when the Doctor gets very cranky having to actually live life by going the long way 'round....I hope that plays a part in why the 12th Doctor is so grumpy and upset.
 
2014-08-12 04:28:44 AM  

Elfich: Grotesk: So.. Twelve equals Three plus Six? Or is he now being properly identified as Fourteen?

Okay, here is the doctor math:

There were 8 doctors in the classic series. (
1 War Doctor  (John Hurt)
and then three doctors since then (Eccleston, Tennant and Smith)

Capaldi is the thirteenth incarnation of the being known as the Doctor; but refered to as the Twelfth  Doctor because the War doctor never though of himself as the Doctor.

/And yes the the question of final regeneration was addressed in the episode where Smith regenerated into Capaldi. So there will be plenty of Doctor Who to go around.


Well, yeah, there were only so many actors to play The Doctor. But actually... (Hold on, I gotta put on my anorak and extra-tight underwear)

There were seven Doctors in the classic series* (played by eight actors, including Richard Hurndall, but excluding the "mystery Doctors" from The Brain Of Morbius, the temporary clone of the Fourth Doctor from The Invisible Enemy, Meglos, Omega, and others who used either The Doctor's biodata or regeneration energy), one Watcher, one Valeyard (who can't be considered a Doctor, exactly, and he apparently comes from a time after what we've so far seen), then 1 TV Movie Doctor (initially denied but later canonized because he was awesome), a spooky Ninth Doctor from an alternate reality that was redacted but whose appearance was very similar to Dr. Simeon/the human avatar of The Great Intelligence, and then The Doctor died.

Only then he didn't, because the Sisterhood of Karn resurrected him and used one of their elixirs to regenerate him into a War Doctor we only found out about much later and who was kicked out of the Doctor Club until it was discovered he really was a hero, then there was a Post-war Doctor who was full of Northern angst and leatheriness, with short hair and a short temper, then Rose's Doctor, his cross-sexed diploid pseudoclone, Jenny (who can't exactly be considered a Doctor, though she's like X-23/Laura is to Wolverine), Rose's Doctor 1.5 (AKA The Doctor Who Didn't Want To Go) and his handy twin the half-human DonnaDoctor, who became the Tylerverse Doctor (and according to me, eventually the Doctor from the Peter Cushing movies), The DoctorDonna, who was sadly never able to become The Doctor's Sister for more than a few minutes before being sealed away like an awful Chameleon Arching and who hopefully will be the DoctorDonor to complete Jenny's evolution to JennyWho and thereby a full Time Lord, Jackson Lake who doesn't count because he only thought he was The Doctor, The Raggedy Doctor Who Stayed For Christmas (who actually was two incarnations owing to being healed by Melody's donated regeneration energy and who also had alternate timeline versions that were culled from history), The Dream Lord who is probably going to become The Valeyard, and now The &$#*ing Doctor, who got his new regeneration cycle from the Time Lords after his original time had run out and therefore could be considered a sort of Extra Time or Penalty Kicks Doctor.


While it could be argued that the Third Doctor was actually just a reformatted Second Doctor and not a proper regeneration, subsequent availability of regenerations seems to bear up the Time Lords having actually "executed" the Second Doctor. K'Anpo Rimpoche/Cho-Je jump-started the dying Third Doctor's regeneration by telepathy but didn't actually donate regeneration energy, so even though he himself was temporally folded, there were no shenanigans in the Three-Four regeneration, unlike the Four-Five regeneration, in which The Watcher was a form of The Doctor which we still have not learned the origin of. The temporary Polaroid Clone of the Fourth Doctor dissolved and was returned to the Fourth Doctor's body, along with the Polaroid Clone of Leela, giving The Doctor some human immune cells and possibly other genetic material, but nothing was ever made of it and the effect likely was only brief. Meglos transformed himself into The Doctor, but that was probably only physical appearance. Omega used The Fifth Doctor's biodata extract to take a new physical form and clearly obtained some other aspects of The Doctor in the process, but since Omega was an antimatter ghost and needed a real-world interface in order to exist outside of a black hole, by obeying the law of Conservation of Information, he could at best be considered a kind of quantum eidolon that was merely entangled with a clone of The Doctor for a time, but that time ended when Omega gave up his existence. Omega could also have been the source of The Watcher, for all we know.

This list also excludes all the others who played The Doctor in things like the stage plays, Curse Of Fatal Death, animated and audio dramas that weren't official, and of course The Other and Doctor versions from the novels that weren't based on televised episodes.


*:
1. Doctor Owl, 2. Doctor Moe, 3. Doctor Mom, 4. Doctor Yow, 5. Doctor Boy, 6. Doctor Odd, 7. Doctor Scot
 
2014-08-12 08:26:17 AM  

Mr Tarantula: I never watched the pre-9th seasons, but I am happy about an angrier Doctor. Eccleston and Tennant could scare any creature in the universe using just their words. A wrathful Doctor is a scary thing. A lot of the darkness was missing in Smith's run.


While I generally agree...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYaQVjF48eY
 
2014-08-12 09:00:24 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: Dingleberry Dickwad: That still won't prevent the usual folks from biatching and moaning about how the show runner is a hack and the new Doctor sucks balls, and both can DIAF. Of course it never occurs to them to stop watching if they don't like it.

Have you not seen the new fashion in anti-Moffat hate?  Take a few out of context quotes from Capaldi, and twist them into the idea that Capaldi is in a battle to the death with Moffat over creative control of the show.  That Capaldi is on set arguing with Moffat over his awful racist, sexist scripts and winning, because he's an old, established actor with power, not a powerless, gullible n00b like Matt Smith.

The can't cope with the cognitive dissonance that a respected superfan like Capaldi would actually like Moffat's show and scripts.  They can't hate on him like Smith.  So they've already decided that anything they perceive as good in 12th's run will be due to Capaldi's defiance of Moffat.

/Yes, they are indeed crazy
//God, I wish they would stop watching


For me, I hope that Capaldi can carry the scripts.  I'm not expecting the quality of the show, unfortunately, to increase, but at least Capaldi will have the chops to make it a bit more entertaining and "believable."  That's something that Smith couldn't do, and, as a result, the often glaring miscues or contradictions or just plain bad writing shone through easily.  If Capaldi sells it, great.  If not, then HE will get the blame for being too old, not in touch, etc., and we'll end up with one of the One Direction boys snogging Clara in the next reincarnation.

\quickest improvement: erase Clara completely
 
2014-08-12 09:25:16 AM  
whizbangthedirtfarmer:
\quickest improvement: erase Clara completely

Couldn't agree more.
 
2014-08-12 09:36:14 AM  
Already seen the first two episodes.

Spoilers:

The first episode repeatedly drives home the point that "No, there will be no dewey-eyed love story here. Deal with it. The second episode also sets up the Doctor as as a pragmatist, rather than the "But I can fix anything! And if I can't then I get all mopey about it" kind of guy the previous two were.

Loved 'em both.
 
2014-08-12 12:37:14 PM  

Grotesk: snip ...


I really enjoyed reading those thoughts, and thanks for "Penalty Kicks Doctor", but ... some of us in here are kind of old, and reading 4pt type is almost physically painful for us, y'know?
 
2014-08-12 02:11:11 PM  

phaseolus: Grotesk: snip ...

I really enjoyed reading those thoughts, and thanks for "Penalty Kicks Doctor", but ... some of us in here are kind of old, and reading 4pt type is almost physically painful for us, y'know?


Yeah. After I shrunk the text I couldn't read it, either, but I think it made many of us here happier that way.

/I usually just zoom text anymore these days.
\\'Cuz omma zombie with bad, bad eyes.
///If you can read this you must have zoomed the text.
 
2014-08-12 04:36:03 PM  

reillan: whizbangthedirtfarmer:
\quickest improvement: erase Clara completely

Couldn't agree more.


Personally I like Clara, I just think the writers could be more consistent with her character is all. Some of the stories, plots and so forth from old Who were just as stupid and nonsensical as the stuff people biatch about with NuWho, but somehow no one complains about how bad that shiat was. Even with farktarded shiat like super saiyan Raiden Master, robot angels flying the Doctor Jeebus, Dobby the house Doctor, and concrete blowjob the show is still better than the vast majority of sitcoms and a number of the newer sci-fi shows out there.
 
2014-08-12 05:11:10 PM  

Dingleberry Dickwad: Some of the stories, plots and so forth from old Who were just as stupid and nonsensical as the stuff people biatch about with NuWho, but somehow no one complains about how bad that shiat was.


Oh, yes, yes they do. Like, most of Sylvester McCoy's term was horribly thought out; Happiness Patrol, for example, gets no mercy from fans. Paradise Towers either. McGann's movie was awful (admittedly, that is not precisely "classic Who", but it isn't "new Who" either).
 
2014-08-12 05:21:05 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Dingleberry Dickwad: Some of the stories, plots and so forth from old Who were just as stupid and nonsensical as the stuff people biatch about with NuWho, but somehow no one complains about how bad that shiat was.

Oh, yes, yes they do. Like, most of Sylvester McCoy's term was horribly thought out; Happiness Patrol, for example, gets no mercy from fans. Paradise Towers either. McGann's movie was awful (admittedly, that is not precisely "classic Who", but it isn't "new Who" either).


Yeah, pretty much the only portion of the show that's not constantly pissed on is about 60-70% of the Pertwee-Baker-Davison era.
 
2014-08-13 01:37:51 AM  

Joe USer: lake_huron: Herr Flick's Revenge: I have watched the first 2 episodes that keep getting "leaked".
I like Capaldi, really starting to dislike Clara and the stories are rather disappointing.

Yes, he is really snarky to Clara.

I, for one, think it would be terrible to see these episodes before broadcast and violate copyright as well.

/EIP?

Or even the leaked opening title sequence which seems to have vanished from the internet.


Did they go with the fan created one with the Fob Watch?

It was ok, but I much preferred https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkJqRkaq8co
 
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