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(LA Times)   Come for the newest sanction as Russia bans the import of American chickens. Stay for the fun fact that most all chickens raised and sold in U.S. get a big bath in chlorine   (latimes.com) divider line 69
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2014-08-11 12:35:52 PM  
Bathing chickens in chlorine is a good business move, they're just pooling their resources.
 
2014-08-11 12:52:14 PM  
Damnit, chicken's cheap enough already. Ban beef and bacon, assholes!
 
2014-08-11 01:00:20 PM  
So do you, Subby, at least assuming you bathe.
 
2014-08-11 01:24:12 PM  
Ha! Jokes on the Russians most American chickens have already been spoken for by the GOP these days.

Nobody's entirely sure what they are doing with all those chickens but the rumors are most unsavory.
 
2014-08-11 01:45:54 PM  
They only finish the birds in chlorine because they've been soaked in the fecal dunk tank to add water weight.

What a great country we live in.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-08-11 02:05:56 PM  
Considering that food is Russia's number one import, I think Pooty Poot might not have thought his cunning plan all the way through.
 
2014-08-11 02:31:51 PM  

incendi: Damnit, chicken's cheap enough already. Ban beef and bacon, assholes!


Maybe the chicken you are buying, but the free-range growth hormone-free stuff is still expensive as all get out.
 
2014-08-11 03:58:57 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: They only finish the birds in chlorine because they've been soaked in the fecal dunk tank to add water weight.

What a great country we live in.


'Fecal Dunk Tank'...great band name!
 
2014-08-11 04:09:33 PM  

gopher321: Marcus Aurelius: They only finish the birds in chlorine because they've been soaked in the fecal dunk tank to add water weight.

What a great country we live in.

'Fecal Dunk Tank'...great band name!


Yeah, Fecal Dunk Tank is my post-punk screamo-skacore band.
 
2014-08-11 04:12:36 PM  
well by all rights the republicans have been f-ing it for over 7 years, i wouldn't want to eat it, but if i had too i would at least bathe it in something.
 
2014-08-11 04:12:51 PM  

Nabb1: Maybe the chicken you are buying, but the free-range growth hormone-free stuff is still expensive as all get out.


Free-range grass-fed and finished beef carries a similar premium, so that's a wash. Fortunately, I have a hard time feeling any empathy for chickens, so I don't feel much pain after demolishing a small flock just because I wanted to eat one specific part of them many times.

Well, my asshole feels the pain when I'm blasting out hot wing and cheap beer shiats, but I'm pretty sure that's unrelated.
 
2014-08-11 04:12:51 PM  

Nabb1: incendi: Damnit, chicken's cheap enough already. Ban beef and bacon, assholes!

Maybe the chicken you are buying, but the free-range growth hormone-free stuff is still expensive as all get out.


^ This.  I pay about $6 a pound for "real" chickens, and that's directly from the farm.  And that's for the whole chicken.
 
2014-08-11 04:13:21 PM  

Nabb1: the free-range growth hormone-free stuff is still expensive as all get out.


All chicken sold in the use is growth hormone-free
 
2014-08-11 04:15:48 PM  

jaytkay: All chicken sold in the use is growth hormone-free


Yeah, but my brand is also asbestos and diflouroethane free, and is fed a strict breatharian diet.
 
2014-08-11 04:19:12 PM  
Well, where did you think all the white meat came from? Duh.
 
2014-08-11 04:19:47 PM  
When I was in art school I knew a grad student who did plastic sculptures. One day he had a great idea: he went to the butcher shop, bought a whole chicken, head, legs, feathers and all, dipped it repeatedly in polymer resin until he built up a nice thick coat of plastic, then hung it on the wall of his studio. Great sculpture, huh? Luckily he was not in his studio the day the chicken exploded (from the built-up decomposition gases), leaving a thin layer of molten chicken on every exposed surface in his studio. He walked in (as he told the story), took one look, walked out and locked the door behind him, abandoning everything he owned.
 
2014-08-11 04:21:10 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Nabb1: incendi: Damnit, chicken's cheap enough already. Ban beef and bacon, assholes!

Maybe the chicken you are buying, but the free-range growth hormone-free stuff is still expensive as all get out.

^ This.  I pay about $6 a pound for "real" chickens, and that's directly from the farm.  And that's for the whole chicken.


I'm doing this next year.  I have a few hens for eggs.  They are great.  But no way I can butcher chickens.  Did that as a little kid.  It's the worst butchering process ever.  But I found a farmer on Craig's list near here who will take your order in spring.  He then raises as many chicks as he has pre-ordered.  They are raised free range.  Then he calls you when he's going to butcher and you go pick them up on his farm.  I will probably order 20 or so.
 
2014-08-11 04:24:47 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Nabb1: incendi: Damnit, chicken's cheap enough already. Ban beef and bacon, assholes!

Maybe the chicken you are buying, but the free-range growth hormone-free stuff is still expensive as all get out.

^ This.  I pay about $6 a pound for "real" chickens, and that's directly from the farm.  And that's for the whole chicken.


I would love to do that, but seeing as I'm a grad student...

Yeaaaaah.
 
2014-08-11 04:25:33 PM  

brandent: I'm doing this next year.  I have a few hens for eggs.  They are great.  But no way I can butcher chickens.  Did that as a little kid.  It's the worst butchering process ever.  But I found a farmer on Craig's list near here who will take your order in spring.  He then raises as many chicks as he has pre-ordered.  They are raised free range.  Then he calls you when he's going to butcher and you go pick them up on his farm.  I will probably order 20 or so.


This, I could do. I just have a hard time believing grocery store label "free range" "organic" chicken actually means diddly-squat or actually makes a difference in quality.
 
2014-08-11 04:31:18 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Nabb1: incendi: Damnit, chicken's cheap enough already. Ban beef and bacon, assholes!

Maybe the chicken you are buying, but the free-range growth hormone-free stuff is still expensive as all get out.

^ This.  I pay about $6 a pound for "real" chickens, and that's directly from the farm.  And that's for the whole chicken.


Just curious, is there a significant difference in taste?
 
2014-08-11 04:32:09 PM  
These days I only buy the fancy more expensive chicken. Between the saline juice injected chicken that just adds water weight, to just plain funny taste, I can't do the cheap stuff anymore.

That said: washing them in a chlorine solution doesn't sound awful to me. Obviously chlorine is a pretty farking safe chemical when used properly. Thank chlorine for most of your pathogen free tap water. Swimming pools. Etc. It's so ubiquitous that I doubt a single person in North America hasn't benefited from it. Or drank it. So washing some chickens in it and then washing em off with water doesn't exactly seem bad.

Of course, then you get ambitious grocery stores that abuse it. Anyone remember the Food Lion scandal in Florida in the 90s? Washing spoiled meat with bleach and then making it into "seasoned" things. To this day, in a different state, that still keeps me from buying anything "seasoned" from the meat department in the grocery store, heh.
 
2014-08-11 04:32:34 PM  

Black_Lazerus: well by all rights the republicans have been f-ing it for over 7 years, i wouldn't want to eat it, but if i had too i would at least bathe it in something.


The Russians have simply been under the impression that all American chickens come conveniently pre-battered.
 
2014-08-11 04:41:46 PM  
Remember when people talked about what a brilliant chessmaster this guy was.
 
2014-08-11 04:44:43 PM  
comrade chasin that chicken
 
2014-08-11 04:50:08 PM  

incendi: brandent: I'm doing this next year.  I have a few hens for eggs.  They are great.  But no way I can butcher chickens.  Did that as a little kid.  It's the worst butchering process ever.  But I found a farmer on Craig's list near here who will take your order in spring.  He then raises as many chicks as he has pre-ordered.  They are raised free range.  Then he calls you when he's going to butcher and you go pick them up on his farm.  I will probably order 20 or so.

This, I could do. I just have a hard time believing grocery store label "free range" "organic" chicken actually means diddly-squat or actually makes a difference in quality.


Read 'The Omnivore's Dilemma' by Michael Pollan.

Free range chickens live in a massive, disgusting, overcrowded shed but have a couple of small exits that lead to very small fenced-in areas they mostly don't use.

Described here:

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbsuperfoods/a/cagefreeeggsdef. h tm

/eats chicken anyways.
 
2014-08-11 04:50:34 PM  
Yo, fifes!
Chicken thighs are going to be cheap soon.
 
2014-08-11 04:54:31 PM  

quatchi: Ha! Jokes on the Russians most American chickens have already been spoken for by the GOP these days.

Nobody's entirely sure what they are doing with all those chickens but the rumors are most unsavory.


came to make a similar joke, got here late and expected to see it repeated ad nauseum throughout the thread, and after 25 comments now, only 1 gop chicken joke? really?!

come on fark i am dissapoint

clearly putin is really a republican and just wants to make sure we don't run out of benghazis or something.

/so sad can't even make a decent joke
//going to sulk in a corner now
 
2014-08-11 05:03:37 PM  

Tomahawk513: Marcus Aurelius: Nabb1: incendi: Damnit, chicken's cheap enough already. Ban beef and bacon, assholes!

Maybe the chicken you are buying, but the free-range growth hormone-free stuff is still expensive as all get out.

^ This.  I pay about $6 a pound for "real" chickens, and that's directly from the farm.  And that's for the whole chicken.

Just curious, is there a significant difference in taste?


Having just made the transition to growth hormone free, free range chickens in the last 6 months... yes.  Yes there is.  The skin of the bird is a better texture and more substantial.  Fat is in the right places.  The texture of the meat is better - more firm, and the skin is better attached.  In general, they've been cleaned better, defeathered more completely.  The are significantly better quality wise.  The taste... is amazing.  In comparison to the bulk brands out there think 3x the flavor.  Whatever the factory style growth process is, it eliminates all flavor from the chickens that end up in the stores.  I will never be going back.  I can't pinpoint which of the many differences in handling and feeding drives the results but the differences in outcomes are huge.  You could say they actually taste like chicken.
 
2014-08-11 05:06:17 PM  

Tomahawk513: Marcus Aurelius: Nabb1: incendi: Damnit, chicken's cheap enough already. Ban beef and bacon, assholes!

Maybe the chicken you are buying, but the free-range growth hormone-free stuff is still expensive as all get out.

^ This.  I pay about $6 a pound for "real" chickens, and that's directly from the farm.  And that's for the whole chicken.

Just curious, is there a significant difference in taste?


Packaging and freshness has a far greater impact on taste. But if the rubes want to get fleeced buying free range chickens, let them. Not my money.
 
2014-08-11 05:07:44 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Bathing chickens in chlorine is a good business move, they're just pooling their resources.


It's worthwhile - given the appalling dives in which chickens wade for the majority of their lives, I don't think such drastic food hygiene is going off the deep end.
 
2014-08-11 05:07:56 PM  
Get it?  It's chlorine!

/couldn't find a more accurate still
 
2014-08-11 05:08:50 PM  
Damnit, it ditched my photo.   Here you go.
 
2014-08-11 05:11:13 PM  
"In a move viewed as protectionist, Russia took the U.S. chicken industry to task in 2010 for rinsing its product in chlorine, a practice long banned in the European Union but common in the U.S. American producers agreed to stop the process for Russian-bound chicken. "

No a problem.  They already had the ammonia gas to use instead, in-house to use on the pink slime.
 
2014-08-11 05:15:02 PM  

MadHatter500: Having just made the transition to growth hormone free


All chickens sold in the US are growth hormone free.
 
2014-08-11 05:20:45 PM  

Nabb1: incendi: Damnit, chicken's cheap enough already. Ban beef and bacon, assholes!

Maybe the chicken you are buying, but the free-range growth hormone-free stuff is still expensive as all get out.


Where do you shop? Kroger has good relatively inexpensive free range etc .
 
2014-08-11 05:25:05 PM  

neongoats: These days I only buy the fancy more expensive chicken. Between the saline juice injected chicken that just adds water weight, to just plain funny taste, I can't do the cheap stuff anymore.

That said: washing them in a chlorine solution doesn't sound awful to me. Obviously chlorine is a pretty farking safe chemical when used properly. Thank chlorine for most of your pathogen free tap water. Swimming pools. Etc. It's so ubiquitous that I doubt a single person in North America hasn't benefited from it. Or drank it. So washing some chickens in it and then washing em off with water doesn't exactly seem bad.

Of course, then you get ambitious grocery stores that abuse it. Anyone remember the Food Lion scandal in Florida in the 90s? Washing spoiled meat with bleach and then making it into "seasoned" things. To this day, in a different state, that still keeps me from buying anything "seasoned" from the meat department in the grocery store, heh.


Yeah.  I always just assume that the seasoned meat is the stuff that's past expiration or right on the edge because of that. 

There's lots about conservative derp in America that confuses me and makes me angry but nothing compared to the total brain dead self-defeating retardation that causes people to vote or advocate for people who would allow this to happen to our food supply.  There's just no excuse for that level of ignorance.  Mostly their stupid shiat just harms them, but when it comes to food and water safety they're messing with my family.  Gah.
 
2014-08-11 05:27:14 PM  

jaytkay: MadHatter500: Having just made the transition to growth hormone free

All chickens sold in the US are growth hormone free.


Next you'll be telling me they are gluten free too.

/not counting any breading or stuffing
 
2014-08-11 05:29:55 PM  
Maybe MadHatter500 is referring to a slower-growing breed of chicken?
 
2014-08-11 05:30:29 PM  
has anyone pointed out that chickens sold in the us are growth hormone free
 
2014-08-11 05:39:44 PM  

jaytkay: All chickens sold in the US are growth hormone free.


That's impossible.
 
2014-08-11 05:46:00 PM  
I read somewhere that all chickens sold in the us are growth hormone free.  Has anyone else heard anything like that?
 
2014-08-11 05:49:48 PM  

Jackson Herring: has anyone pointed out that chickens sold in the us are growth hormone free


www.classichorrorcampaign.com
 
2014-08-11 05:58:44 PM  
Keep farking those chickens, Putin.
 
2014-08-11 06:01:19 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: jaytkay: MadHatter500: Having just made the transition to growth hormone free

All chickens sold in the US are growth hormone free.

Next you'll be telling me they are gluten free too.

/not counting any breading or stuffing


I wish I had the lack of scruples to sell growth hormone-free chicken and gluten-free water. I could be wealthy.
 
2014-08-11 06:04:49 PM  

Vlad_the_Inaner: Jackson Herring: has anyone pointed out that chickens sold in the us are growth hormone free

[www.classichorrorcampaign.com image 850x632]


Yep. It's pretty well known how things got out of control before the ban.

lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2014-08-11 06:06:26 PM  

incendi: brandent: I'm doing this next year.  I have a few hens for eggs.  They are great.  But no way I can butcher chickens.  Did that as a little kid.  It's the worst butchering process ever.  But I found a farmer on Craig's list near here who will take your order in spring.  He then raises as many chicks as he has pre-ordered.  They are raised free range.  Then he calls you when he's going to butcher and you go pick them up on his farm.  I will probably order 20 or so.

This, I could do. I just have a hard time believing grocery store label "free range" "organic" chicken actually means diddly-squat or actually makes a difference in quality.


I've heard 'cage free' eggs etc are even worse than the caged ones because they give them just enough space to fight basically.
 
2014-08-11 06:10:10 PM  
I drive past a huge Tyson chicken plant and several large chicken farms to and from work, so I'm getting a kick.

/You don't know what "bad" smells like until driving by the chicken plant or stuvk behind a chicken truck on a humid 100 degree South Georgia summer afternoon.
//No, I don't eat chicken anymore since I started this new commute.
///Unless it's from my sister, who raises them in her backyard.
 
2014-08-11 06:11:58 PM  
Did somebody say chicken?
 
2014-08-11 06:23:03 PM  

jaytkay: MadHatter500: Having just made the transition to growth hormone free

All chickens sold in the US are growth hormone free.


If you want to think so, go right ahead.  I know a few chicken farmers and I can tell ya that what a government rule says and what happens on the farm are two different things.
 
2014-08-11 06:30:41 PM  

togaman2k: I drive past a huge Tyson chicken plant and several large chicken farms to and from work, so I'm getting a kick.

/You don't know what "bad" smells like until driving by the chicken plant or stuvk behind a chicken truck on a humid 100 degree South Georgia summer afternoon.
//No, I don't eat chicken anymore since I started this new commute.
///Unless it's from my sister, who raises them in her backyard.


It might be the worst smell on earth.
 
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