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(Talking Points Memo)   In a gallant act of heroism and bravery, John McCain volunteers to be the first soldier to go back to Iraq with his plucky sidekick, Lindsey   ( talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line
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2014-08-11 09:33:31 AM  
FTA; "There's a vacuum of American leadership all throughout the Middle East, "

Just wow!
The very best part of America is back, the bombs.
Now that is leadership you can believe in.
 
2014-08-11 09:35:40 AM  
mccain is a farking asshole. "we should have stayed in iraq." fark you, john. why should americans continue to be blown to bits to prop up the government of a foreign nation we have no business being in, in the first place?
 
2014-08-11 09:37:14 AM  
Next up: John McCain sticks his hand onto a glowing red stove to see if it's still hot.
 
2014-08-11 09:45:18 AM  
John, you've already demonstrated your judgement is for sh*t

/just STFU
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-08-11 09:56:41 AM  
I would think any sane person would see this as evidence that the whole idea of getting into Iraq in the first place was a mistake.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-08-11 09:57:33 AM  
I do think the idea oh him and Lohan going to Iraq is a great one.  He could take Beiber too.
 
2014-08-11 09:59:34 AM  

vpb: I do think the idea oh him and Lohan going to Iraq is a great one.  He could take Beiber too.


Wrong Lindsay. This is the more effeminate one.
 
2014-08-11 10:31:43 AM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vpb: I do think the idea oh him and Lohan going to Iraq is a great one.  He could take Beiber too.

Wrong Lindsay. This is the more effeminate one.


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH SNAP
 
2014-08-11 11:37:32 AM  
"There's a vacuum of American leadership all throughout the Middle East," he said.

Good god, the hubris. They're not your countries, John, your 'leadership' isn't supposed to be there.
 
2014-08-11 11:41:02 AM  
"I predicted what was going to happen in Iraq," he said.

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2014-08-11 11:46:49 AM  
Then introduce a bill to raise taxes and re-instate the draft, you senile ass
 
2014-08-11 11:57:49 AM  

snocone: FTA; "There's a vacuum of American leadership all throughout the Middle East, "

Just wow!
The very best part of America is back, the bombs.
Now that is leadership you can believe in.


But America's good at bombing.  Iraq has a political crisis and it really needs is for the US to show them how a Government can work together like a DNC President and a GOP House of Representatives.  Stick to bombing.
 
2014-08-11 11:59:02 AM  
I see Lindsey as more of a comfort woman to the troops.
 
2014-08-11 12:08:42 PM  
He's not wrong.

Of course, we should've never gone tromping through Iraq to begin with.  But, much like my parents raised me to do:  if you make a mess, you clean it up.

/which would probably be a Sisyphean feat
 
2014-08-11 12:12:20 PM  
Again, to stay in Iraq, we would have had to do one of two things:

A) Agree to allow the Iraqi leaders to be allowed to arrest US troops and try under Iraq's laws
B) Overthrow the Iraqi government. AGAIN.

Because they *refused* to allow our troops to be there without A). Those were our choices.

Are any of you saying we should have stayed SERIOUSLY suggesting A) or B) were even REMOTELY viable?
 
2014-08-11 12:13:46 PM  

JerseyTim: "I predicted what was going to happen in Iraq," he said.

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This should be plastered on every webpage, newspaper, and voting booth in existence.
 
2014-08-11 12:14:35 PM  

vpb: I do think the idea oh him and Lohan going to Iraq is a great one.


Biological weapons are prohibited by the Geneva Convention.
 
2014-08-11 12:15:31 PM  

snocone: FTA; "There's a vacuum of American leadership all throughout the Middle East, "

Just wow!
The very best part of America is back, the bombs.
Now that is leadership you can believe in.


Don't call it a comeback
I been here for years
Rockin my peers and puttin suckas in fear
 
2014-08-11 12:17:41 PM  
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2014-08-11 12:18:31 PM  
McCain has never seen a military engagement he didn't like.  That's what makes the man dangerous.
 
2014-08-11 12:20:40 PM  

JerseyTim: "I predicted what was going to happen in Iraq," he said.

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Hey, quoting him, in context, is just a low down dirty political hatchet job. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
2014-08-11 12:23:03 PM  
Endless war only benefits war profiteers.  Which, as an occupation, should be criminalized.
 
2014-08-11 12:23:14 PM  
That is simply a very narrow and focused approach to a problem

Yeah, what we need is a vague and poorly thought out approach.
 
2014-08-11 12:24:24 PM  
....and that movie is ....."The Neverending Story".
 
2014-08-11 12:24:36 PM  

snocone: FTA; "There's a vacuum of American leadership all throughout the Middle East, "

Just wow!
The very best part of America is back, the bombs.
Now that is leadership you can believe in.


It only now just dawned on me that when people say there is a "lack of leadership" in Obama's foreign policy, it really means "we are not blowing up enough shiat and/or people over there."
 
2014-08-11 12:25:17 PM  
We should've let the Vietnamese keep him.
 
2014-08-11 12:25:43 PM  

Bill the unknowing: ....and that movie is ....."The Neverending Story".


2.bp.blogspot.com

OUR TAAAAAAX!
 
2014-08-11 12:26:47 PM  

FlashHarry: mccain is a farking asshole. "we should have stayed in iraq." fark you, john. why should americans continue to be blown to bits to prop up the government of a foreign nation we have no business being in, in the first place?


So, we can also put you down as "supporting genocide in the absence of American intervention," then?
 
M-G
2014-08-11 12:27:11 PM  
Give weapons to the Kurds so they can fight ISIS?  US-provided weapons have never fallen into the wrong hands, right?
 
2014-08-11 12:27:40 PM  
In a gallant act of heroism and bravery, John McCain volunteers to be the first soldier to go back to Iraq with his plucky sidekick bottom biatch, Lindsey

Not even Lincoln and Joshua Speed (or, if you prefer, David and Jonathan) had a relationship like McCain/Graham. NTTAWWT, it's just creepy and weird (like the McPoyles aged 30 years).

// now, Meghan McCain and Lauren Graham?
// let's Kickstart THAT video...
 
2014-08-11 12:27:55 PM  

JerseyTim: "I predicted what was going to happen in Iraq," he said.

[pbs.twimg.com image 600x337]


This makes me smile.

Lying farker.
 
2014-08-11 12:28:40 PM  
A President John McCain would have been an effing disaster.  He would have ignored anything domestic to focus almost exclusively on foreign policy while making every bad decision on that end possible.
 
2014-08-11 12:29:53 PM  
Dear Senator McCain,

I'm very concerned at your Opsec violation. In your appearance on CNN's "State of the Union" program, you slammed President Obama for the decision to withdraw from Iraq. 
The agreement was signed December 14, 2008. http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/12/2008 1 214-2.html
Divulging the existence of President Obama's Magical Time Machine clearly violates 18 U.S. Code § 798, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Sincerely,
demaL-demaL-yeH
 
2014-08-11 12:30:05 PM  

sendtodave: FlashHarry: mccain is a farking asshole. "we should have stayed in iraq." fark you, john. why should americans continue to be blown to bits to prop up the government of a foreign nation we have no business being in, in the first place?

So, we can also put you down as "supporting genocide in the absence of American intervention," then?


That's a pretty ridiculous either/or mentality you got there.
 
2014-08-11 12:30:47 PM  

Felgraf: Again, to stay in Iraq, we would have had to do one of two things:

A) Agree to allow the Iraqi leaders to be allowed to arrest US troops and try under Iraq's laws
B) Overthrow the Iraqi government. AGAIN.

Because they *refused* to allow our troops to be there without A). Those were our choices.

Are any of you saying we should have stayed SERIOUSLY suggesting A) or B) were even REMOTELY viable?


No doubt they forced a decision on point A) entirely due to intransigence on the part of Blackwater and other mercenary corps.
 
2014-08-11 12:30:52 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: A President John McCain would have been an effing disaster.  He would have ignored anything domestic to focus almost exclusively on foreign policy while making every bad decision on that end possible.


Yeah, luckily, we got "pretty shiatty" over "farking disaster."

I'm predicting "farking disaster" the next go around.
 
2014-08-11 12:31:47 PM  

xanadian: He's not wrong.

Of course, we should've never gone tromping through Iraq to begin with. But, much like my parents raised me to do: if you make a mess, you clean it up.


If you make a mess you give it arms and bomb it and eventually it will be cleaned up.
 
2014-08-11 12:32:44 PM  

Felgraf: Again, to stay in Iraq, we would have had to do one of two things:

A) Agree to allow the Iraqi leaders to be allowed to arrest US troops and try under Iraq's laws
B) Overthrow the Iraqi government. AGAIN.

Because they *refused* to allow our troops to be there without A). Those were our choices.

Are any of you saying we should have stayed SERIOUSLY suggesting A) or B) were even REMOTELY viable?


You forgot:

C) Stay and do what you want a la original invasion.

An army doesn't not have to permit its soldiers being arrested.  Regardless, it would probably have made one bit of difference except for more dead American soldiers. Getting out of there was the right thing to do.  Obama should own it.  Bombing ISIS is also the right thing to do today.
 
2014-08-11 12:32:52 PM  
I'm not bothering to look it up, but I think I'm safe assuming that Lindsey Graham was one of the people who said Obama's proposed intervention in Syria was practically treason.
 
2014-08-11 12:33:14 PM  

thamike: sendtodave: FlashHarry: mccain is a farking asshole. "we should have stayed in iraq." fark you, john. why should americans continue to be blown to bits to prop up the government of a foreign nation we have no business being in, in the first place?

So, we can also put you down as "supporting genocide in the absence of American intervention," then?

That's a pretty ridiculous either/or mentality you got there.


A)  Can anyone else save them from themselves?
B)  Is it our job to do so?

Just realize that answering No to both questions would be condoning genocide.

It is what it is.
 
2014-08-11 12:34:31 PM  

JerseyTim: "I predicted what was going to happen in Iraq," he said.

[pbs.twimg.com image 600x337]


That's a very weird Tweet. You can find him totally against withdrawal back in 2008. I was just going to say that at least he is consistent, but now I have no idea.
 
2014-08-11 12:36:49 PM  

ArkPanda: I'm not bothering to look it up, but I think I'm safe assuming that Lindsey Graham was one of the people who said Obama's proposed intervention in Syria was practically treason.


To be fair, everything Obama does is treason, if you're a Derpublican.
 
2014-08-11 12:36:58 PM  
How  we never should have gone to Iraq in the first place? Because no matter how long we stayed it was going to go straight to shiat as soon as we left.
 
2014-08-11 12:38:00 PM  

sendtodave: thamike: sendtodave: FlashHarry: mccain is a farking asshole. "we should have stayed in iraq." fark you, john. why should americans continue to be blown to bits to prop up the government of a foreign nation we have no business being in, in the first place?

So, we can also put you down as "supporting genocide in the absence of American intervention," then?

That's a pretty ridiculous either/or mentality you got there.

A)  Can anyone else save them from themselves?
B)  Is it our job to do so?

Just realize that answering No to both questions would be condoning genocide.

It is what it is.


No it isn't, and just because you think those are the only questions to choose from brings us back to what I wrote above about your either/or mentality.
 
2014-08-11 12:38:36 PM  

Mikey1969: JerseyTim: "I predicted what was going to happen in Iraq," he said.

[pbs.twimg.com image 600x337]

That's a very weird Tweet. You can find him totally against withdrawal back in 2008. I was just going to say that at least he is consistent, but now I have no idea.


He is old and cannot remember from one day to the next what he may have said so trying for consistency will not work. The only thing we can really rely on is if Obama says good, McCain says bad.
 
2014-08-11 12:40:50 PM  

mrshowrules: Felgraf: Again, to stay in Iraq, we would have had to do one of two things:

A) Agree to allow the Iraqi leaders to be allowed to arrest US troops and try under Iraq's laws
B) Overthrow the Iraqi government. AGAIN.

Because they *refused* to allow our troops to be there without A). Those were our choices.

Are any of you saying we should have stayed SERIOUSLY suggesting A) or B) were even REMOTELY viable?

You forgot:

C) Stay and do what you want a la original invasion.

An army doesn't not have to permit its soldiers being arrested.  Regardless, it would probably have made one bit of difference except for more dead American soldiers. Getting out of there was the right thing to do.  Obama should own it.  Bombing ISIS is also the right thing to do today.


Not getting a status of forces agreement was very convenient for everybody; I'm not sure anybody on either side wanted us to stay much longer.  However, if we really, really, really wanted to stay I'm sure we could have come up with some excuse.
 
2014-08-11 12:40:56 PM  

xanadian: But, much like my parents raised me to do: if you make a mess, you clean it up.


Much like my parents raised me, when I was told to GTFO, I did.
 
2014-08-11 12:41:07 PM  
By the way, John McCain is a crashing sailor, subby.
Lindsey is an Air Force JAG, off.
 
2014-08-11 12:41:25 PM  
We should've stayed in Iraq? Well as president, that's a decision you can make OH WAIT YOU LOST
 
2014-08-11 12:42:11 PM  

thamike: No it isn't, and just because you think those are the only questions to choose from brings us back to what I wrote above about your either/or mentality.


They say that black and white thinking is a symptom of depression.

And how we have handled Iraq is farking depressing.

Actually, politics in general depresses me anymore.

I kinda miss living in China.  I didn't have to care about how shiatty the government is, because it wasn't my government, and because even if it was, there is no pretense that the government answers to the people.
 
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