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(Yahoo)   The president of Nigeria has announced additional funding to combat Ebola as infection reaches the capital city. Goodluck Jonathan   (uk.news.yahoo.com) divider line 63
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2014-08-11 01:05:05 PM  
is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?
 
2014-08-11 02:31:08 PM  
Nigerian, please!
 
2014-08-11 02:33:15 PM  

SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


Ebola would certainly be an improvement to some places in Africa.
 
2014-08-11 02:33:17 PM  

SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


Very.
 
2014-08-11 02:37:04 PM  

iheartscotch: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?

Ebola would certainly be an improvement to some places in Africa.


Yeah, setting back progress more than it already has been is definitely the solution.
 
2014-08-11 02:37:56 PM  

SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


Show me where the Nigerian prince defrauded you....

Nobody deserves to die from Ebola.  Yes, it is wrong that you're cheering for it.  :-P
 
2014-08-11 02:39:02 PM  
Lagos would be the second largest city in the US if it was located here... this is not a good development. Over 5 million will be exposed, many of them fearful of modern medicine, and definitely hostile to western medical teams.
 
2014-08-11 02:39:30 PM  
Goodluck Jonathan, we're all counting on you.
 
2014-08-11 02:39:38 PM  
Wow, a situation like this will certainly create a lot of dead Nigerian princes with millions of dollars to repatriate.
 
2014-08-11 02:41:45 PM  

whither_apophis: Goodluck Jonathan, we're all counting on you.


bastard...
 
2014-08-11 02:43:18 PM  
Well, it's about bleedin' time.
 
2014-08-11 02:47:32 PM  

SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?



As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you:

Lagos is not the capital of Nigeria

Containment has been largely successful, all cases so far have been among health workers who assisted a Liberian man on a diplomatic mission who had the virus, who have all been identified and quarantined as well as most of the people they've come into contact with.

Banter and obligatory Welcome to Fark.jpg messages aside, as well as the apparent fact that Africans are considered to be less than vermin by some of you, such statements don't make you sound edgy, or smart, or snarky.  Just a nasty human being.

//rant off
 
2014-08-11 02:47:45 PM  

Karma Chameleon: iheartscotch: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?

Ebola would certainly be an improvement to some places in Africa.

Yeah, setting back progress more than it already has been is definitely the solution.


I don't know. If the Ebola got all of the warlords and their soldiers; I'm pretty sure that would be an improvement.
 
2014-08-11 02:48:46 PM  

serialsuicidebomber: Well, it's about bleedin' time.


They ain't got time to bleed.
 
2014-08-11 02:49:24 PM  

LesserEvil: Lagos would be the second largest city in the US if it was located here... this is not a good development. Over 5 million will be exposed, many of them fearful of modern medicine, and definitely hostile to western medical teams.


Given that Ebola is quite deadly even with modern treatment, it might almost be a good thing for people to stay home rather than going to the hospital.  At least the disease won't have doctors and nurses as a transmission vector.
 
2014-08-11 02:49:53 PM  
Dear Sir:

By way of introduction, I am Crown Prince Nyadubulu of Nigeria. Recent events have made it necessary for me to contact you regarding the securing of funding for our anti-Ebola campaign....
 
2014-08-11 02:50:55 PM  
I just hope president Madagascar gets shut down in time.
 
2014-08-11 02:54:50 PM  
grown_twilight
As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you

Question. Where's the god damn money you promised?
 
2014-08-11 03:00:23 PM  

orclover: grown_twilight
As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you

Question. Where's the god damn money you promised?


Well there's the new Ebola levy you see, affects all West African transactions, 25%.  Wire that through and we'll be all set.

//pinkie swear
 
2014-08-11 03:00:30 PM  
Dear Sir/Mam
 I'm a Nigerian prince with Ebola and need your help getting money out of the country.....
 
2014-08-11 03:03:48 PM  

Karma Chameleon: iheartscotch: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?

Ebola would certainly be an improvement to some places in Africa.

Yeah, setting back progress more than it already has been is definitely the solution.


Actually I'm curious how things would play out if Ebola reaches Black Death proportions. An estimated 30% - 60% of Europes population died but marked a major turning point for Europe. Feudalism essentially died afterwards as the surviving peasants could demand higher wages with the lose of half the population and increase social mobility, including the obvious increases in land availability and food sources.

Of course boo death by ebola but I can't help but see some parallels in something that could see the few African workers that survived, now fewer than there are jobs, demand higher wages and a less corrupt government that eventually makes Africa a powerhouse that Europe was.
 
2014-08-11 03:04:14 PM  

grown_twilight: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you:

Lagos is not the capital of Nigeria

Containment has been largely successful, all cases so far have been among health workers who assisted a Liberian man on a diplomatic mission who had the virus, who have all been identified and quarantined as well as most of the people they've come into contact with.

Banter and obligatory Welcome to Fark.jpg messages aside, as well as the apparent fact that Africans are considered to be less than vermin by some of you, such statements don't make you sound edgy, or smart, or snarky.  Just a nasty human being.

//rant off


I am Colombian and people have teased me about my father being Juan Valdez, Pablo Escobar, and shiat tons of other things. I take them what they are at face value, jokes.

Maybe you should go back to Nigeria and help your people get a handle on things.

It is hard to take advice from an expat about his own country when he does not choose to live in it.
 
2014-08-11 03:09:55 PM  

leonel: Karma Chameleon: iheartscotch: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?

Ebola would certainly be an improvement to some places in Africa.

Yeah, setting back progress more than it already has been is definitely the solution.

Actually I'm curious how things would play out if Ebola reaches Black Death proportions. An estimated 30% - 60% of Europes population died but marked a major turning point for Europe. Feudalism essentially died afterwards as the surviving peasants could demand higher wages with the lose of half the population and increase social mobility, including the obvious increases in land availability and food sources.

Of course boo death by ebola but I can't help but see some parallels in something that could see the few African workers that survived, now fewer than there are jobs, demand higher wages and a less corrupt government that eventually makes Africa a powerhouse that Europe was.


On the other hand, small pox wiped out a huge percentage of Native Americans and all they got for their trouble was colonized. It can go both ways.
 
2014-08-11 03:14:58 PM  

theflatline: grown_twilight: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you:

Lagos is not the capital of Nigeria

Containment has been largely successful, all cases so far have been among health workers who assisted a Liberian man on a diplomatic mission who had the virus, who have all been identified and quarantined as well as most of the people they've come into contact with.

Banter and obligatory Welcome to Fark.jpg messages aside, as well as the apparent fact that Africans are considered to be less than vermin by some of you, such statements don't make you sound edgy, or smart, or snarky.  Just a nasty human being.

//rant off

I am Colombian and people have teased me about my father being Juan Valdez, Pablo Escobar, and shiat tons of other things. I take them what they are at face value, jokes.

Maybe you should go back to Nigeria and help your people get a handle on things.

It is hard to take advice from an expat about his own country when he does not choose to live in it.


I do have very strong links to Nigeria, visit quite often and pretty much all my family lives all over there, including Lagos, and parts of the North not that far away from where the terrorism is going on, so I very much am invested in what goes on there.  I get what you're saying about being there to help people get a handle on things, but I'm not an epidemiologist or anything medical so my direct input won't be that much use right at this second.  But again it's a bit like saying a Jewish person in America shouldn't say anything about what's happening in Israel.

Again I get where you're coming from about jokes, but with all respect, being teased about your dad being a drug baron is quite different from "jokes" of your people being killed off from a very real and very destructive force.
 
2014-08-11 03:15:04 PM  

LesserEvil: Lagos would be the second largest city in the US if it was located here... this is not a good development. Over 5 million will be exposed, many of them fearful of modern medicine, and definitely hostile to western medical teams.


And it's one of Africa's busiest port cities.  17.5 million people.
 
2014-08-11 03:15:58 PM  
i.ytimg.com
 
2014-08-11 03:21:50 PM  

stuffy: Dear Sir/Mam
 I'm a Nigerian prince with Ebola and need your help getting money out of the country.....


(shakes fist)
 
2014-08-11 03:22:25 PM  

LesserEvil: Over 5 million will be exposed


No, they won't.  The whole point of Ebola, which everyone continually ignores, is that it is passed only by direct, physical contact with bodily fluids.  An airborne virus has a better chance to spread with increasing density of population, true enough, but this isn't one of those.  Those infected with Ebola are not contagious until they start showing symptoms, and what large cities also mean is better access to hospitals and medical care, as well as faster spread of information (so authorities hear about infected people much sooner).  Ebola has a tougher time spreading in developed areas, that's why it's stuck in the poorest parts of Africa.

Ebola is a much greater threat to rural communities there.  Everyone gets involved to care for the sick and, if they die, participate in funerary rites that include touching the body.  All this fear mongering about Ebola spreading to major cities and wrecking havoc or coming to the developed world is founded in (often willful) ignorance.  News organizations keep saying why the disease can't spread far while in the same breath asking rhetorically if you should be afraid.  They know you shouldn't, but they want you to be anyway.

Critical thinking sounds boring, but it's actually quite empowering.  I highly endorse it.
 
2014-08-11 03:30:08 PM  

FLMountainMan: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?

Very.


Agreed. I know  several Doctors and Nurses working in West Africa. A significant  reason this spreads is due to the poorly trained medical staff not following proper sanitation techniques. In addition to that, the families of the deceased do not take any precautions in preparing the body for internment.  Due to the religious beliefs there is very little that can be done. It's a matter of education which is lacking in that area.
 
2014-08-11 03:31:01 PM  
We will be okay, as long as this does not change.

Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever Fact Sheet (pdf)

While all Ebola virus species have displayed the ability to be spread through airborne particles (aerosols) under research conditions, this type of spread has not been documented among humans in a real-world setting, such as a hospital or household.
 
2014-08-11 03:44:11 PM  

grown_twilight: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you:

Lagos is not the capital of Nigeria

Containment has been largely successful, all cases so far have been among health workers who assisted a Liberian man on a diplomatic mission who had the virus, who have all been identified and quarantined as well as most of the people they've come into contact with.

Banter and obligatory Welcome to Fark.jpg messages aside, as well as the apparent fact that Africans are considered to be less than vermin by some of you, such statements don't make you sound edgy, or smart, or snarky.  Just a nasty human being.

//rant off


img.fark.net
 
2014-08-11 03:45:55 PM  

cgraves67: leonel: Karma Chameleon: iheartscotch: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?

Ebola would certainly be an improvement to some places in Africa.

Yeah, setting back progress more than it already has been is definitely the solution.

Actually I'm curious how things would play out if Ebola reaches Black Death proportions. An estimated 30% - 60% of Europes population died but marked a major turning point for Europe. Feudalism essentially died afterwards as the surviving peasants could demand higher wages with the lose of half the population and increase social mobility, including the obvious increases in land availability and food sources.

Of course boo death by ebola but I can't help but see some parallels in something that could see the few African workers that survived, now fewer than there are jobs, demand higher wages and a less corrupt government that eventually makes Africa a powerhouse that Europe was.

On the other hand, small pox wiped out a huge percentage of Native Americans and all they got for their trouble was colonized. It can go both ways.


That's very true and while there's no political will to colonize outright, there may be some desire to slowly colonize even colonize under the guise of humanitarianism. But I suspect that may not be the case as there are already aid organizations in Africa trying to combat it and will likely stop it and educate people about it before it gets to Native American levels.
 
2014-08-11 03:48:37 PM  

Karma Chameleon: iheartscotch: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?

Ebola would certainly be an improvement to some places in Africa.

Yeah, setting back progress more than it already has been is definitely the solution.


And Nigeria is, along with Ghana, really one of the up-and-coming economies in the world.  They're the best hope for sub-Saharan Africa.
 
2014-08-11 03:52:10 PM  
Is on the case.

www.thelmagazine.com
 
2014-08-11 03:59:30 PM  

serialsuicidebomber: Well, it's about bleedin' time.


i snarfed before I could stop it and blame you
 
2014-08-11 04:06:24 PM  

grown_twilight: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you:

Lagos is not the capital of Nigeria

Containment has been largely successful, all cases so far have been among health workers who assisted a Liberian man on a diplomatic mission who had the virus, who have all been identified and quarantined as well as most of the people they've come into contact with.

Banter and obligatory Welcome to Fark.jpg messages aside, as well as the apparent fact that Africans are considered to be less than vermin by some of you, such statements don't make you sound edgy, or smart, or snarky.  Just a nasty human being.

//rant off


As an american who will likely never travel to your part of the planet, may i say the idea of living with, much less fighting against, ebola is terrifying - not to excuse the more hateful posters (you know who you are) for their gallows humor or outright bigotry - they are whistling past the grave yard with sincere intent.
 
2014-08-11 04:07:56 PM  
So have they found all those kidnapped girls yet? Hows that going?
No? Back burner?
 
2014-08-11 04:16:09 PM  

orclover: grown_twilight
As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you

Question. Where's the god damn money you promised?


It's right over there near the promised shining light on a hill.
 
2014-08-11 04:20:59 PM  
Yay! I get to break this out again:


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/Now to see how many farkers read tab.
 
2014-08-11 04:43:20 PM  

grown_twilight: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you:

Lagos is not the capital of Nigeria

Containment has been largely successful, all cases so far have been among health workers who assisted a Liberian man on a diplomatic mission who had the virus, who have all been identified and quarantined as well as most of the people they've come into contact with.

Banter and obligatory Welcome to Fark.jpg messages aside, as well as the apparent fact that Africans are considered to be less than vermin by some of you, such statements don't make you sound edgy, or smart, or snarky.  Just a nasty human being.

//rant off


Not true. Vermin carry the plague which is at least one order of magnitude better than Ebola.
 
2014-08-11 05:01:03 PM  

grown_twilight: orclover: grown_twilight
As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you

Question. Where's the god damn money you promised?

Well there's the new Ebola levy you see, affects all West African transactions, 25%.  Wire that through and we'll be all set.

//pinkie swear


That's it. You're favourited.
 
2014-08-11 05:10:04 PM  

grown_twilight: theflatline: grown_twilight: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you:

Lagos is not the capital of Nigeria

Containment has been largely successful, all cases so far have been among health workers who assisted a Liberian man on a diplomatic mission who had the virus, who have all been identified and quarantined as well as most of the people they've come into contact with.

Banter and obligatory Welcome to Fark.jpg messages aside, as well as the apparent fact that Africans are considered to be less than vermin by some of you, such statements don't make you sound edgy, or smart, or snarky.  Just a nasty human being.

//rant off

I am Colombian and people have teased me about my father being Juan Valdez, Pablo Escobar, and shiat tons of other things. I take them what they are at face value, jokes.

Maybe you should go back to Nigeria and help your people get a handle on things.

It is hard to take advice from an expat about his own country when he does not choose to live in it.

I do have very strong links to Nigeria, visit quite often and pretty much all my family lives all over there, including Lagos, and parts of the North not that far away from where the terrorism is going on, so I very much am invested in what goes on there.  I get what you're saying about being there to help people get a handle on things, but I'm not an epidemiologist or anything medical so my direct input won't be that much use right at this second.  But again it's a bit like saying a Jewish person in America shouldn't say anything about what's happening in Israel.

Again I get where you're coming from about jokes, but with all respect, being teased about your dad being a drug baron is quite different from "jokes" of your people being killed off from a very real and very destructive force.


Question for you about the local burial practices.  Would it make sense to provide villages with something like a coffin-size transparent "glove box", so they could still wash their dead relatives, but with less exposure to Ebola?

/not a doctor, anthropologist, or engineer
//no idea how feasible it is
 
2014-08-11 05:12:28 PM  

BWeed6: So have they found all those kidnapped girls yet? Hows that going?
No? Back burner?


^^^^
This - karma, except I'm sure (more) girls will be lost with this too.
 
2014-08-11 05:41:27 PM  

PunGent: grown_twilight: theflatline: grown_twilight: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you:

Lagos is not the capital of Nigeria

Containment has been largely successful, all cases so far have been among health workers who assisted a Liberian man on a diplomatic mission who had the virus, who have all been identified and quarantined as well as most of the people they've come into contact with.

Banter and obligatory Welcome to Fark.jpg messages aside, as well as the apparent fact that Africans are considered to be less than vermin by some of you, such statements don't make you sound edgy, or smart, or snarky.  Just a nasty human being.

//rant off

I am Colombian and people have teased me about my father being Juan Valdez, Pablo Escobar, and shiat tons of other things. I take them what they are at face value, jokes.

Maybe you should go back to Nigeria and help your people get a handle on things.

It is hard to take advice from an expat about his own country when he does not choose to live in it.

I do have very strong links to Nigeria, visit quite often and pretty much all my family lives all over there, including Lagos, and parts of the North not that far away from where the terrorism is going on, so I very much am invested in what goes on there.  I get what you're saying about being there to help people get a handle on things, but I'm not an epidemiologist or anything medical so my direct input won't be that much use right at this second.  But again it's a bit like saying a Jewish person in America shouldn't say anything about what's happening in Israel.

Again I get where you're coming from about jokes, but with all respect, being teased about your dad being a drug baron is quite different from "jokes" of your people being killed off from a very real and very destructive force.

Question for you about the local burial practices.  Would it make sense to provide villages with something like a coffin-siz ...


From what I know the only thing you can do with Ebola is to bag the bodies in plastic while wearing hazmat suits, because on death the body becomes SUPER infectious, like one errant splash of water can infect you infectious (happy to be corrected on this).  So with an sort of outbreak anything short of that will be a moot point really.  Your idea may work but the only issue I see is that it  may be too expensive and or fiddly for people in the real backwaters.  and in any case there are morgue/funeral parlour type places where things can be done properly especially in urban areas.  FWIW Nigeria's patient zero was cremated immediately after he died and I imagine the same will happen with any other deaths, especially if it reamins as contained as it seems to be.
 
2014-08-11 05:43:49 PM  

opiumpoopy: grown_twilight: orclover: grown_twilight
As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you

Question. Where's the god damn money you promised?

Well there's the new Ebola levy you see, affects all West African transactions, 25%.  Wire that through and we'll be all set.

//pinkie swear

That's it. You're favourited.


Much appreciated good sir
 
2014-08-11 05:46:20 PM  

grown_twilight: SlothB77: is it wrong I am cheering for Ebola at this point?


As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you:

Lagos is not the capital of Nigeria

Containment has been largely successful, all cases so far have been among health workers who assisted a Liberian man on a diplomatic mission who had the virus, who have all been identified and quarantined as well as most of the people they've come into contact with.

Banter and obligatory Welcome to Fark.jpg messages aside, as well as the apparent fact that Africans are considered to be less than vermin by some of you, such statements don't make you sound edgy, or smart, or snarky.  Just a nasty human being.

//rant off


i.imgur.com
 
2014-08-11 05:53:36 PM  

nanim: BWeed6: So have they found all those kidnapped girls yet? Hows that going?
No? Back burner?

^^^^
This - karma, except I'm sure (more) girls will be lost with this too.


nanim: BWeed6: So have they found all those kidnapped girls yet? Hows that going?
No? Back burner?

^^^^
This - karma, except I'm sure (more) girls will be lost with this too.


Pretty much back burner it seems, politicians are too interested in getting themselves reelected next year to care what happens to a bunch of poor people in the outer provinces. They see it all as valid partisan fodder. Local civil defence volunteers and US aerial surveilliance picked up the girls location weeks ago but...no action from government.  Also add to that generals and chiefs of staff embezzling massive amounts of our defence budget, low morale of frontline personnel, some commanding officers and local politicians actively compromising counter insurgency methods (some or islamists, some are cheap enough to be bribed), president who makes GW Bush look like a Rhodes scholar....

...you get the picture.  Pretty much nothing will happen until all the elections are over.
 
2014-08-11 05:55:25 PM  

washington-babylon: /Now to see how many farkers read tab.


I must not.  The top two strings are unaffected -- are those ukelele chords?
 
2014-08-11 06:23:29 PM  

EggSniper: LesserEvil: Over 5 million will be exposed

No, they won't.  The whole point of Ebola, which everyone continually ignores, is that it is passed only by direct, physical contact with bodily fluids.  An airborne virus has a better chance to spread with increasing density of population, true enough, but this isn't one of those.  Those infected with Ebola are not contagious until they start showing symptoms, and what large cities also mean is better access to hospitals and medical care, as well as faster spread of information (so authorities hear about infected people much sooner).  Ebola has a tougher time spreading in developed areas, that's why it's stuck in the poorest parts of Africa.

Ebola is a much greater threat to rural communities there.  Everyone gets involved to care for the sick and, if they die, participate in funerary rites that include touching the body.  All this fear mongering about Ebola spreading to major cities and wrecking havoc or coming to the developed world is founded in (often willful) ignorance.  News organizations keep saying why the disease can't spread far while in the same breath asking rhetorically if you should be afraid.  They know you shouldn't, but they want you to be anyway.

Critical thinking sounds boring, but it's actually quite empowering.  I highly endorse it.


img1.etsystatic.com

/Great Scott, he was right!!
 
2014-08-11 06:26:17 PM  

kg2095: orclover: grown_twilight
As a Nigerian I'll run a few things past you

Question. Where's the god damn money you promised?

It's right over there near the promised shining light on a hill.


We never promised you a rose garden.
 
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