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(Proudly Resents) Audio Before "Guardians of the Galaxy" Marvel had a mistep with their 1994 "Fantastic Four" movie. Hear how they made it and even burned the film. And watch the film   (proudlyresents.com) divider line 61
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2014-08-11 02:41:49 AM
Executive Producer: Roger Corman

/ good enough for MST3K, I suppose
// watched 10 minutes so far.....not sure if I can tolerate much more of this...
 
2014-08-11 07:28:20 AM
I have a screener copy of Corman's Fantastic Four. Yeah, I collect odd bits of film. It has a very young Mercedes McNab as a young Susan Storm--Harmony from Buffy and Angel fame. The copy I have is sans finished special effects, and yeah, it's pretty damn bad. It's Corman, so you don't really expect high art, but there's a reason that this didn't get released.
 
2014-08-11 08:55:17 AM
I only saw the trailer on youtube and it is laughably bad.  the batman TV show in the 60s had higher production values.
 
2014-08-11 09:07:43 AM
It's no mystery why it was made and why it was destroyed. They made it so the production company can retain their license for the Fantastic Four movie. Like Sony and Spider-man or Fox and X-Men, the license has a reversion clause where if the company didn't make a movie within a certain period of time, the rights revert back to Marvel.

They hired Roger Corman, gave him a tiny 1.5 million budget to make the movie, thereby satisfying the conditions of their license, and then never released it because it was a bad movie.
 
2014-08-11 09:19:57 AM
i291.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-11 09:25:23 AM
I liked the original F4 well enough.

Now F42? That crapper I have never even finished.
 
2014-08-11 09:28:24 AM
This wasn't actually a Marvel Studios film.  Your headline sucks.
 
2014-08-11 09:29:29 AM
That movie taught me that with a broom stick and white glove, I too, can be Mr. Fantastic.
 
2014-08-11 09:42:52 AM
I have a bootleg DVD. It's so bad, when Dr. Doom is kneading his fists it sounds like the foley guy just put ice cubes in his mouth and chewed on them while leaning into a microphone.
 
2014-08-11 09:48:01 AM
This keeps getting "dragged out of the vault" every couple of weeks it seems.

Almost every comic book movie is a misstep.

Hasselhof as Nick Fury? Lundgren as the Punisher. That Captain America movie?

Hell both Thor movies and the first new Captain America movie sucked. X3? The Wolverine thing with Ryan Reynolds? Hulk movies? The other punisher movie where they almost decided to do it right? The other FF movies.

There have been a few great comic book movies from any company. Some good ones. Some just "eh". Then you draw the Nic Cage line and there are the rest.
 
2014-08-11 09:49:42 AM

hubiestubert: I have a screener copy of Corman's Fantastic Four. Yeah, I collect odd bits of film. It has a very young Mercedes McNab as a young Susan Storm--Harmony from Buffy and Angel fame. The copy I have is sans finished special effects, and yeah, it's pretty damn bad. It's Corman, so you don't really expect high art, but there's a reason that this didn't get released.


It was the only way to keep the name rights so they threw a little bit of money with no intention to ever releasing it?
 
2014-08-11 09:56:37 AM
I wish I had two more hands, so I could give that four thumbs down!
 
2014-08-11 10:02:16 AM

lefthanded bastard: This wasn't actually a Marvel Studios film.  Your headline sucks.


It's also missing a comma. Subby's ignorance is twofold.
 
2014-08-11 10:03:31 AM

Mangoose: This keeps getting "dragged out of the vault" every couple of weeks it seems.

Almost every comic book movie is a misstep.

Hasselhof as Nick Fury? Lundgren as the Punisher. That Captain America movie?

Hell both Thor movies and the first new Captain America movie sucked. X3? The Wolverine thing with Ryan Reynolds? Hulk movies? The other punisher movie where they almost decided to do it right? The other FF movies.

There have been a few great comic book movies from any company. Some good ones. Some just "eh". Then you draw the Nic Cage line and there are the rest.


Think back to the Spiderman TV movie and series from 1977.
 
2014-08-11 10:06:03 AM
Done in 5.
 
2014-08-11 10:14:32 AM
Is anyone else thinking the latest reboot of F4 is going to be a massive crapfest with the new cast. I saw a picture of the cast online and they all look in their late teens early 20's? Is Fox going for young hipsters turn into superheroes? I will change my mind if Galactus isnt a cloud
 
2014-08-11 10:15:06 AM
Nice troll-tastic headline subby. How many will bite?

/Shark Week
 
2014-08-11 10:22:13 AM

give me doughnuts: Mangoose: This keeps getting "dragged out of the vault" every couple of weeks it seems.

Almost every comic book movie is a misstep.

Hasselhof as Nick Fury? Lundgren as the Punisher. That Captain America movie?

Hell both Thor movies and the first new Captain America movie sucked. X3? The Wolverine thing with Ryan Reynolds? Hulk movies? The other punisher movie where they almost decided to do it right? The other FF movies.

There have been a few great comic book movies from any company. Some good ones. Some just "eh". Then you draw the Nic Cage line and there are the rest.

Think back to the Spiderman TV movie and series from 1977.


That was my birth year, so before my time. I had to look those up.They sure look like something
 
2014-08-11 10:26:20 AM
and yet...it was still better than SPAWN.
 
2014-08-11 10:38:07 AM

eagles95: Is anyone else thinking the latest reboot of F4 is going to be a massive crapfest with the new cast. I saw a picture of the cast online and they all look in their late teens early 20's? Is Fox going for young hipsters turn into superheroes? I will change my mind if Galactus isnt a cloud


The problem is the Fantastic Four suck in general. The characters aren't very interesting - there's only so many times you can hear Ben Grimm biatch about being a rock monster, or watch Sue completely ignore Reed's dickish, borderline abusive behavior, or ignore that Johnny Storm is a not-so-thinly-veiled reference to a closeted brother who can't come to grips with his homosexuality.

Now if they had the balls to make it more about how farked up these people are and how they are simply not heroes, but rather horrible people who accidentally got powers and now have to overcome their own bullshiat to save the world or something, it might be good. But instead it'll likely be a generic hero story, but like the first two flops.

Besides, the best Fantastic Four movie was already made...and it was called The Incredibles.
 
2014-08-11 10:48:56 AM
I'd rather see this movie
www.toonzone.net
 
2014-08-11 10:52:07 AM

eagles95: Is anyone else thinking the latest reboot of F4 is going to be a massive crapfest with the new cast. I saw a picture of the cast online and they all look in their late teens early 20's? Is Fox going for young hipsters turn into superheroes? I will change my mind if Galactus isnt a cloud


Yeah, a giant dude with the stupidest helmet design ever is SO much better...
 
2014-08-11 10:58:57 AM

give me doughnuts: Mangoose: This keeps getting "dragged out of the vault" every couple of weeks it seems.

Almost every comic book movie is a misstep.

Hasselhof as Nick Fury? Lundgren as the Punisher. That Captain America movie?

Hell both Thor movies and the first new Captain America movie sucked. X3? The Wolverine thing with Ryan Reynolds? Hulk movies? The other punisher movie where they almost decided to do it right? The other FF movies.

There have been a few great comic book movies from any company. Some good ones. Some just "eh". Then you draw the Nic Cage line and there are the rest.

Think back to the Spiderman TV movie and series from 1977.


The TV show filmed a stuntman dressed as Spider-Man actually climbing the Empire State Building, so that's something.
 
2014-08-11 11:06:12 AM

Nem Wan: give me doughnuts: Mangoose: This keeps getting "dragged out of the vault" every couple of weeks it seems.

Almost every comic book movie is a misstep.

Hasselhof as Nick Fury? Lundgren as the Punisher. That Captain America movie?

Hell both Thor movies and the first new Captain America movie sucked. X3? The Wolverine thing with Ryan Reynolds? Hulk movies? The other punisher movie where they almost decided to do it right? The other FF movies.

There have been a few great comic book movies from any company. Some good ones. Some just "eh". Then you draw the Nic Cage line and there are the rest.

Think back to the Spiderman TV movie and series from 1977.

The TV show filmed a stuntman dressed as Spider-Man actually climbing the Empire State Building, so that's something.


The TV show filmed a stuntman making climbing motions while being hauled up with a very visible cable.
 
2014-08-11 11:08:05 AM
The guys (and girl) at redlettermedia did a "best of the worst" episode with this as one of the movies, and actually gave it a decent review. http://redlettermedia.com/best-of-the-worst-supergirl-captain-america - 1990-and-roger-cormans-fantastic-four/
 
2014-08-11 11:12:19 AM
Yes kids, there was a time when "Marvel Comic Book Movie" was a punchline to a very horrible joke.

Now stop biatching about bad CGI and enjoy what you have.
 
2014-08-11 11:12:47 AM
I remember when that movie was hyped on the cover of Film Threat magazine.  Boy, did that turn out to be a mistake.
 
2014-08-11 11:29:03 AM

Forbidden Doughnut: Executive Producer: Roger Corman

/ good enough for MST3K, I suppose
// watched 10 minutes so far.....not sure if I can tolerate much more of this...


If Rifftrax hasn't gotten hold of this yet, they need to.

hubiestubert: I have a screener copy of Corman's Fantastic Four. Yeah, I collect odd bits of film. It has a very young Mercedes McNab as a young Susan Storm--Harmony from Buffy and Angel fame. The copy I have is sans finished special effects, and yeah, it's pretty damn bad. It's Corman, so you don't really expect high art, but there's a reason that this didn't get released.


As MST3K has taught us, never underestimate the Cor-Man.

RexTalionis: It's no mystery why it was made and why it was destroyed. They made it so the production company can retain their license for the Fantastic Four movie. Like Sony and Spider-man or Fox and X-Men, the license has a reversion clause where if the company didn't make a movie within a certain period of time, the rights revert back to Marvel.

They hired Roger Corman, gave him a tiny 1.5 million budget to make the movie, thereby satisfying the conditions of their license, and then never released it because it was a bad movie.


I have a feeling that from now on such contracts will mandate the film actually get released, too, or at least not be deliberately made to never be seen like this one.

Mangoose: Hell both Thor movies and the first new Captain America movie sucked.


While I strongly disagree with what you say Sir, I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Stratohead: and yet...it was still better than SPAWN.


Guh, I'm not sure I've ever been so let down by a movie experience.  I went in to the theater all excited after having watched the Spawn series on HBO.  Took me about 40 minutes to realize this wasn't ever going to get really good.  Not that it was the worst movie, but next to the animated series?  Huge letdown.

BATMANATEE: I'd rather see this movie
[www.toonzone.net image 500x375]


The Venture Bros. in general is a wealth of possible spin-off characters, but they're definitely near the top of my "side characters who I'd watch if they had their own series" list.
 
2014-08-11 11:31:32 AM
I saw a bootlegged copy of it, probably 3rd or 4th generation copy.

It was EPICALLY bad.  Defiantly MST3k Material.
 
2014-08-11 11:40:19 AM

foo monkey:


Can't imagine how I missed the issue where the Fantastic Four meet the Blues Brothers and join the SS
 
2014-08-11 12:07:53 PM

mcmnky: foo monkey:

Can't imagine how I missed the issue where the Fantastic Four meet the Blues Brothers and join the SS


SuperHero Nazis are the worst
 
2014-08-11 12:09:22 PM

eagles95: Is anyone else thinking the latest reboot of F4 is going to be a massive crapfest with the new cast. I saw a picture of the cast online and they all look in their late teens early 20's? Is Fox going for young hipsters turn into superheroes? I will change my mind if Galactus isnt a cloud


No, I have actual grown-up problems to worry about.
 
2014-08-11 12:10:47 PM
IIRC, this wasn't Marvel, but Fox who hired Corman and the actors, etc. to make this movie. The whole point was to make a cheap movie that would never see the light of day JUST to hang on to the FF film rights. The actors and crew never knew they were part of what was essentially a fake movie production.

Nobody cared how bad it was-- It was just a legal placeholder, and it worked. Fox came back a few years later with their OTHER awful FF movie, and then yet ANOTHER awful FF movie.

Fox sucks.

/Fox is currently in the course of rebooting their Foxtastic Four yet again.
//It will suck, too.
///Johnny Storm is black, Sue Storm is white. Interesting casting choice.
 
2014-08-11 12:11:38 PM
Hell, I HAVE a copy of that movie.  It wasn't bad.

Low budget, sure.  Effects not up to what a lot of current-day snobs would call 'par'?  Sure.

But the script was fairly sound, the performances were good or better, and they were respectful of the source material.  A decent blend of humor, action, and a bit of gravitas where needed.

And they did a better-than-expected job with Ben, and for me, that's a MUST with the FF.
 
2014-08-11 12:13:21 PM

RexTalionis: It's no mystery why it was made and why it was destroyed. They made it so the production company can retain their license for the Fantastic Four movie. Like Sony and Spider-man or Fox and X-Men, the license has a reversion clause where if the company didn't make a movie within a certain period of time, the rights revert back to Marvel.

They hired Roger Corman, gave him a tiny 1.5 million budget to make the movie, thereby satisfying the conditions of their license, and then never released it because it was a bad movie.


Yes. This. I missed your Weeners time through, so I repeated what you said. Oops.

Although I'm still not sure if it was Fox at this time, or another production company, and I don't give enough of a shiat to look it up.
 
2014-08-11 12:19:15 PM

WilderKWight: Johnny Storm is black, Sue Storm is white


I think the general Internet reaction to this casting news was 'The hell?'
 
2014-08-11 12:35:00 PM
Marvel made a misstep as far back as 1967 when they allowed Hanna-Barbera to make a "Fantastic
Four" TV cartoon.  (The DePatie-Freleng studio - who gave us the Pink Panther - also did a FF
series in the early 1980s, but it wasn't successful either.)
 
2014-08-11 12:38:43 PM

WilderKWight: Yes. This. I missed your Weeners time


Teehee.
 
2014-08-11 12:39:00 PM

Tyrone Slothrop: The guys (and girl) at redlettermedia did a "best of the worst" episode with this as one of the movies, and actually gave it a decent review. http://redlettermedia.com/best-of-the-worst-supergirl-captain-america - 1990-and-roger-cormans-fantastic-four/


this episode was quite good.  i'm a fan of BotW
 
2014-08-11 12:42:48 PM

texdent: WilderKWight: Johnny Storm is black, Sue Storm is white

I think the general Internet reaction to this casting news was 'The hell?'


While you're right, if one parent is white and the other is black, then it's possible flute one sibling Rio have white skin and the other black skin.

/ Still what the hell?
 
2014-08-11 12:54:30 PM
The "best" of the bad films are the TV pilots. Everyone knows the Justice League debacle, but I have a special place in my heart for the Incredible Hulk "movies" that were stealth pilots for Thor and Daredevil TV shows.

The best part of the Dr. Strange TV movie is that realization that 1978 was made before sexual harassment was a thing. Seriously, the good doctor makes a pass at the nurse that amounts to "one of these days I'll stop taking no for an answer and just force myself on you" and it's treated as charming or debonair instead of a sign of what a jerk he is before his training with the Ancient One (which he doesn't do either; basically he's just picked as Sorcerer Supreme like a Green Lantern with none of that "learning humility" crap.)
 
2014-08-11 01:10:07 PM

Uncle Pooky: eagles95: Is anyone else thinking the latest reboot of F4 is going to be a massive crapfest with the new cast. I saw a picture of the cast online and they all look in their late teens early 20's? Is Fox going for young hipsters turn into superheroes? I will change my mind if Galactus isnt a cloud

No, I have actual grown-up problems to worry about.


I call shenanigans on that, you're on Fark and voluntarily came into this thread.
 
2014-08-11 01:13:57 PM

RexTalionis: It's no mystery why it was made and why it was destroyed. They made it so the production company can retain their license for the Fantastic Four movie. Like Sony and Spider-man or Fox and X-Men, the license has a reversion clause where if the company didn't make a movie within a certain period of time, the rights revert back to Marvel.

They hired Roger Corman, gave him a tiny 1.5 million budget to make the movie, thereby satisfying the conditions of their license, and then never released it because it was a bad movie.


Exactly this.  It's entirely a misnomer to call this film a "misfire."  It was made to the absolute minimum standards to stand up under legal scrutiny in case someone took them to court.  It was "Springtime For Hitler," except entirely legal.

I own a copy and I'll say this:  Its way better than most  TV movie superhero stuff from when I was a kid.  And the version of Doctor Doom in it is better than the nonsense from the 2005 version.
 
2014-08-11 01:28:59 PM
Script sample " I am GROOT"
 
2014-08-11 01:37:54 PM

foo monkey: [i291.photobucket.com image 661x375]


Came to get daddy's rocks off, leaving satisfied.
 
2014-08-11 02:07:36 PM
Anyone remember the Justice League pilot movie with David Ogden Stiers (Major Charles Winchester from M*A*S*H*) as the Martian Manhunter?
 
2014-08-11 02:11:58 PM
Dr. Doom looks pretty good.  I have that FT issue and have waited twenty plus years to watch the FF movie and give it a good mocking.  But meh. Maybe later.

FT used to be amazing.  They had a great Twin Peaks episode guide.
 
2014-08-11 03:17:43 PM

ODDwhun: Uncle Pooky: eagles95: Is anyone else thinking the latest reboot of F4 is going to be a massive crapfest with the new cast. I saw a picture of the cast online and they all look in their late teens early 20's? Is Fox going for young hipsters turn into superheroes? I will change my mind if Galactus isnt a cloud

No, I have actual grown-up problems to worry about.

I call shenanigans on that, you're on Fark and voluntarily came into this thread.


I can surf the internet and still have things to worry about.
 
2014-08-11 03:41:45 PM

foo monkey: [i291.photobucket.com image 661x375]


"Lets get you back on the horse." "EVEN BETTER!"

/Method one
 
2014-08-11 03:42:45 PM
Saw a bootleg copy in 1996. My brain is still recovering from the hole that was burned into it.
 
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