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(Science Daily)   What we perceive as the "Big Bang" was actually the collapse of a four dimensional star into a black hole, and our three dimensional universe is merely that four dimensional star being smashed into three dimensions   (sciencedaily.com) divider line 135
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2014-08-10 08:02:43 PM  
OK, did Grant Morrison write this?
 
2014-08-10 08:05:10 PM  
Without qualifiers, that statement is false even if it's true.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2014-08-10 08:09:22 PM  
Well that would explain the 4 Simultaneous Days Same Earth Rotation.
 
2014-08-10 08:09:29 PM  
Okay what the hell is the 4th dimension anyway? I have never heard a good explanation.
 
2014-08-10 08:13:38 PM  

Ambivalence: Okay what the hell is the 4th dimension anyway? I have never heard a good explanation.


Time.

Glad to help.
 
2014-08-10 08:29:06 PM  
Short version: I am so high right now...
 
2014-08-10 08:31:48 PM  

Ambivalence: Okay what the hell is the 4th dimension anyway? I have never heard a good explanation.


Dimensions don't really mean much.  We have 3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time, generally referred to as the 4th dimension.  But you could easily say there's a 5th dimension, temperature.  Or a 6th dimension, wind speed.  Dimensions are just kind of ways of categorizing characteristics of things.
 
2014-08-10 08:37:44 PM  

TheOnion: Ambivalence: Okay what the hell is the 4th dimension anyway? I have never heard a good explanation.

Dimensions don't really mean much.  We have 3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time, generally referred to as the 4th dimension.  But you could easily say there's a 5th dimension, temperature.  Or a 6th dimension, wind speed.  Dimensions are just kind of ways of categorizing characteristics of things.


Imagine you want to catch a ball. It's not enough to have your hand be where the ball will be (x, y, z coordinates). You also have to have it there at the same time.
 
2014-08-10 08:38:38 PM  
My full point being temp and wind speed aren't dimensions.
 
2014-08-10 08:39:00 PM  

TheOnion: Ambivalence: Okay what the hell is the 4th dimension anyway? I have never heard a good explanation.

Dimensions don't really mean much.  We have 3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time, generally referred to as the 4th dimension.  But you could easily say there's a 5th dimension, temperature.  Or a 6th dimension, wind speed.  Dimensions are just kind of ways of categorizing characteristics of things.


Of course there's a 5th Dimension. It was at the dawn of the Age of Aquarius.
 
2014-08-10 08:52:11 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Ambivalence: Okay what the hell is the 4th dimension anyway? I have never heard a good explanation.

Time.

Glad to help.


Time doesn't exist in this universe? That makes no sense. If this is a 3d universe it stands to reason that this mysterious 4th dimension isn't here.
 
2014-08-10 08:53:31 PM  

Ambivalence: Gecko Gingrich: Ambivalence: Okay what the hell is the 4th dimension anyway? I have never heard a good explanation.

Time.

Glad to help.

Time doesn't exist in this universe? That makes no sense. If this is a 3d universe it stands to reason that this mysterious 4th dimension isn't here.


You've been misinformed. You don't live in a three dimensional universe.
 
2014-08-10 08:58:12 PM  

TheOnion: Ambivalence: Okay what the hell is the 4th dimension anyway? I have never heard a good explanation.

Dimensions don't really mean much.  We have 3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time, generally referred to as the 4th dimension.  But you could easily say there's a 5th dimension, temperature.  Or a 6th dimension, wind speed.  Dimensions are just kind of ways of categorizing characteristics of things.


5th Dimension? I love that band. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5akEgsZSfhg
 
2014-08-10 09:00:23 PM  
I'm crushed
 
2014-08-10 09:16:45 PM  
Well, YEAH.
 
2014-08-10 09:52:11 PM  
www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk
 
2014-08-10 10:19:29 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: My full point being temp and wind speed aren't dimensions.


What about sight, sound, and mind?
smellslikeinfinitesadness.com
 
2014-08-10 10:35:09 PM  
Is this fourth dimension one of those kinda-metaphysical things that are impossible to draw, or is it one of those rolled-up things that are too small to find even if we could see it, and are we really inside a four-dimensional black hole, and didn't we decide it was all a simulation anyhow? This hurts my head. I'm going to go watch Primeval on Amazon Prime (the web site, not the comic book character).
 
2014-08-10 11:13:37 PM  
Somewhere.
wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net
 
2014-08-11 12:17:09 AM  
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-08-11 12:17:37 AM  

Gecko Gingrich: My full point being temp and wind speed aren't dimensions.


You can't catch a ball in a 1000 degree tornado.
 
2014-08-11 12:20:43 AM  
I can't mentally comprehend this, so I'm gonna go with: God did it.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

/just trying to speak for the Southern States
 
2014-08-11 02:05:54 AM  
But what if that four dimensional universe is just the event horizon of a five dimensional black hole SHIAT MY MIND IS BLOWN
 
2014-08-11 02:54:48 AM  

Mentat: But what if that four dimensional universe is just the event horizon of a five dimensional black hole SHIAT MY MIND IS BLOWN


It's turtles, all the way down...
 
2014-08-11 03:29:06 AM  

Ambivalence: Gecko Gingrich: Ambivalence: Okay what the hell is the 4th dimension anyway? I have never heard a good explanation.

Time.

Glad to help.

Time doesn't exist in this universe? That makes no sense. If this is a 3d universe it stands to reason that this mysterious 4th dimension isn't here.


Time is the zero. 0-1-2-3. Indexing issues.
 
2014-08-11 03:32:31 AM  
Whoa, this is heavy, Doc!
 
2014-08-11 03:40:26 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Mentat: But what if that four dimensional universe is just the event horizon of a five dimensional black hole SHIAT MY MIND IS BLOWN

It's turtles, all the way down...


And blackberry jam. In fact, Dark Matter is 74% blackberry jam
 
2014-08-11 04:08:17 AM  

ElvisThroop: OK, did Grant Morrison write this?


Came here to post very nearly the same thing. I know people are tired of his shiat, but I farking LOVE Morrison when he gets silver-age crazy. Silver-age crazy is far superior to modern age foulness.
 
2014-08-11 05:27:50 AM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-08-11 05:50:11 AM  
Right now there are billions of neutrinos coursing through you, yet you perceive not a single one.

For thousands of years, a special light that would allow you see through people's flesh was fantasy.

Science is only science so long as it remains testable.
 
2014-08-11 05:56:11 AM  
How about this?.........

The big bang was just a super,mega, uber , massive black hole (made of all the matter in the universe,trapped in black holes, that merged into one ultra-black hole) that then, for whatever reason, explodes?

It would be the high gravity, high temperature, super-dense environment they scientists describe as the big bang
 
2014-08-11 06:20:12 AM  
What evs. I like chocolate milk.
 
2014-08-11 06:32:23 AM  

fusillade762:


Thank you Mr. Big Booty...

BOOT TAY... BIG BOOT TAY... TAY...

*bang*
 
2014-08-11 06:33:52 AM  
Author defines the 4th dimension in this example as an object. However, there is no proof that 4d objects exist, at the moment.

NEXT!
 
2014-08-11 06:43:34 AM  

kendejo42: How about this?.........

The big bang was just a super,mega, uber , massive black hole (made of all the matter in the universe,trapped in black holes, that merged into one ultra-black hole) that then, for whatever reason, explodes?

It would be the high gravity, high temperature, super-dense environment they scientists describe as the big bang


That's an interesting theory. Now, can you do the math?
 
2014-08-11 06:50:00 AM  

Ambivalence: Okay what the hell is the 4th dimension anyway? I have never heard a good explanation.


www.the60sofficialsite.com
It's this... after Ronald Townson died.
 
2014-08-11 06:55:23 AM  

revrendjim: Short version: I am so high right now...


This.  Tired of being fed this crap as if it's science, rather than a few almost self-aware morans passing around the reefer and pretending to be deep.
 
2014-08-11 06:55:24 AM  

batlock666: kendejo42: How about this?.........

The big bang was just a super,mega, uber , massive black hole (made of all the matter in the universe,trapped in black holes, that merged into one ultra-black hole) that then, for whatever reason, explodes?

It would be the high gravity, high temperature, super-dense environment they scientists describe as the big bang

That's an interesting theory. Now, can you do the math?


I leave that math to people like Leonard Susskind: The World As Hologram.

(linked video is a very good talk on a related hypothesis of how we may be a 3D mapping of 4D space)
 
2014-08-11 06:59:20 AM  
It's easier to contemplate if you drop it down a dimension.

Imagine Flatland.  2 dimensional entities. They have no concept of "up" or "down", the entities live their entire lives along that single plane.

Now, wrap that plane around a singularity.  Your flatland entities have no concept of the third dimensional sphere they're wrapped around, so to them, the universe is this strange place where if you go too far in one direction, you end up back where you started.

Something like the expansion of the singularity could only be perceived by the flatlanders as distances and sizes expanding for no observable reason (kinda like the expansion of our universe!)

Nudge it up one dimension, and we have what the science dudes here are describing.  Since we have no real extension into this fourth dimension, we have no perspective on what may be actually happening.  We're stuck inside the box, trying to figure out what the outside world is like, without being able to see it.
 
2014-08-11 06:59:59 AM  
I thought time wasn't necessarily another dimension, just a scale. It is relative where space is not. (I guess it is all relative to c as volume and mass changes with % of c) I think they are referring to a 4th dimension of space. Like a dot to line to square to cube to hyper cube?
 
2014-08-11 07:00:44 AM  
i1.ytimg.com
 
2014-08-11 07:21:01 AM  

ElvisThroop: OK, did Grant Morrison write this?


The Stephen Hawking of Zurr En Arr is exploring fluidic movement in four dimensional space.
 
2014-08-11 07:23:43 AM  

IsThatYourFinalAnswer: It's easier to contemplate if you drop it down a dimension.

Imagine Flatland.  2 dimensional entities. They have no concept of "up" or "down", the entities live their entire lives along that single plane.

Now, wrap that plane around a singularity.  Your flatland entities have no concept of the third dimensional sphere they're wrapped around, so to them, the universe is this strange place where if you go too far in one direction, you end up back where you started.

Something like the expansion of the singularity could only be perceived by the flatlanders as distances and sizes expanding for no observable reason (kinda like the expansion of our universe!)

Nudge it up one dimension, and we have what the science dudes here are describing.  Since we have no real extension into this fourth dimension, we have no perspective on what may be actually happening.  We're stuck inside the box, trying to figure out what the outside world is like, without being able to see it.


What oddities in the 3rd dimension could be solved or proven in the 4th?
 
2014-08-11 07:27:43 AM  
Sounds like someone has been visiting Colorado.
 
2014-08-11 07:34:35 AM  

child_god: I thought time wasn't necessarily another dimension, just a scale. It is relative where space is not. (I guess it is all relative to c as volume and mass changes with % of c) I think they are referring to a 4th dimension of space. Like a dot to line to square to cube to hyper cube?


Why limit yourself to c? Sufficient theories exist to bypass it.. sure, de facto theory mandates it as a constraint.. but no reason to limit your mind given the possibilities. Speaking to relativity, we could just be short living aspects in a turd floating in some larger bowl. Our billions of years could be nothing more than a short lived splash on the back of a toilet bowl yet to be flushed. Religion is a comfort otherwise.
 
2014-08-11 07:35:47 AM  
I am currently mining Snatchillus Ore in the 8th dimension with my faithless companion Packy the Helgatoad and still remain six steps this side of the Velvet Oblivion. I blow my nose at your 4th dimension!!
 
2014-08-11 07:36:16 AM  
I am reading Our Mathematical Universe by Max Tegmark right now.  It was pitched as a common sense explanation of the extremely complicated theories of the universe and the math used in those theories.  It is over my head, but I am struggling through it and trying to "get it."  Please, science dudes, take a pause with your new theories until I have some semblance of understanding of the older ones.
 
2014-08-11 07:44:40 AM  
static.tvtropes.org
 
2014-08-11 07:54:50 AM  
"For all physicists know, dragons could have come flying out of the singularity," Afshordi says in an interview with  Nature.

From science to BatBoy,  Nature has it all.
 
2014-08-11 08:00:42 AM  

akede: child_god: I thought time wasn't necessarily another dimension, just a scale. It is relative where space is not. (I guess it is all relative to c as volume and mass changes with % of c) I think they are referring to a 4th dimension of space. Like a dot to line to square to cube to hyper cube?

Why limit yourself to c? Sufficient theories exist to bypass it..



Like C++
 
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