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(Some Guy)   Who is in charge in Baghdad? I haven't got a coup   (thepunditpress.com) divider line 233
    More: Scary, Iraq, President of Iraq, Maliki, Special Warfare  
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2014-08-10 06:30:06 PM  
Let it go man, 'cause it's gone.
 
2014-08-10 10:08:28 PM  
Yep, you guessed it:

media.philly.com
 
2014-08-10 10:11:44 PM  
Which block?
 
2014-08-10 10:16:13 PM  
Shiat just got real
 
2014-08-10 10:25:50 PM  
They hate us for our freedoms.
 
2014-08-10 10:28:10 PM  
Just when shiat was starting to quiet down over there.
 
2014-08-10 10:29:21 PM  

sgnilward: Shiat just got real


Came to say this.
 
2014-08-10 10:29:22 PM  
grumpycatGOOD.jpg

Their government was already farked, corrupt and totally inept at making their country any more than a shiathile.

I don't have high hopes for the new regime, but it can't be much worse.

Let the blood flow.  This is better than Game of Thrones.
 
2014-08-10 10:29:39 PM  
reallifereviewed.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-08-10 10:31:01 PM  

gfid: grumpycatGOOD.jpg

Their government was already farked, corrupt and totally inept at making their country any more than a shiathile.

I don't have high hopes for the new regime, but it can't be much worse.

Let the blood flow.  This is better than Game of Thrones.


(Nuclear) Winter is coming
 
2014-08-10 10:31:19 PM  
BBC Source

So much for Iraq.
 
2014-08-10 10:32:36 PM  
Oh f*ck.  Well, I ain't sleepin' tonight.  I worked with a lot of folks over there, and they're good people.  They deserve better than this crap.  :(

I hope IraqiPink and kin are OK.
 
2014-08-10 10:33:44 PM  
The US has backed Maliki's opponent, and has implied that the Iraqis won't get any real help against ISIS until the current regime is replaced by something more inclusive and not just hell bent on punishing various ethnic groups for past grievances.
 
2014-08-10 10:34:09 PM  
Thanks Bush..... I mean Cheney.
 
2014-08-10 10:34:23 PM  
Should've farking left Saddam in place.  It takes an evil madman to keep any sort of peace around there.
 
2014-08-10 10:35:44 PM  
Someone dropped a 500lb bomb on Pottery Barn.
 
2014-08-10 10:37:00 PM  
So is it too late to discuss a three-state solution?  Because, unfortunately, the next one will otherwise be "final."
 
2014-08-10 10:37:09 PM  

gadian: Should've farking left Saddam in place.  It takes an evil madman to keep any sort of peace around there.


You don't have to be evil to be a ruthless dictator with an iron fist.

sp5.fotolog.com
 
2014-08-10 10:37:23 PM  

gfid: grumpycatGOOD.jpg

Their government was already farked, corrupt and totally inept at making their country any more than a shiathile.

I don't have high hopes for the new regime, but it can't be much worse.

Let the blood flow.  This is better than Game of Thrones.


You don't get it. This was their government finally trying to get its act together, refusing to appoint al-Maliki to a third term. Even his own party withdrew support from al-Maliki. Now he's using the Iraqi army to launch a coup against the new government. So, no, this is not "grumpycatGOOD.jpg." This is bad, and can only serve to embolden the ISIS terrorists.
 
2014-08-10 10:38:30 PM  

gadian: Should've farking left Saddam in place.  It takes an evil madman to keep any sort of peace around there.

 
2014-08-10 10:39:00 PM  

ghare: gadian: Should've farking left Saddam in place.  It takes an evil madman to keep any sort of peace around there.

 
2014-08-10 10:39:38 PM  
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365297690/

Best news doc I've seen this year.
 
2014-08-10 10:40:14 PM  

gfid: grumpycatGOOD.jpg

Their government was already farked, corrupt and totally inept at making their country any more than a shiathile.

I don't have high hopes for the new regime, but it can't be much worse.


It's not a new regime.  It's the same old regime. Parliament tried to force out Prime Minister al-Malicki out and he's refusing and has the military supporting him, and he's doing shiat like trying to arrest the Kurdish President.
 
2014-08-10 10:40:43 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: The US has backed Maliki's opponent, and has implied that the Iraqis won't get any real help against ISIS until the current regime is replaced by something more inclusive and not just hell bent on punishing various ethnic groups for past grievances.


It's not so much that he's punishing them. He's just doing the old styled corruption of making sure his family is first at the trough, his people second, his friends third, and everyone else last. His mismanagement and dismissal of American troops turned sectarian ire into disarray in the face of a militant vicious sect (ISIL). The latest blunder is trying to keep the Kurds unarmed while they're the only cohesive group fighting the ISIL militants.
 
2014-08-10 10:40:52 PM  
At least we're even for 9/11. Take that, Saudi Arabia!
 
2014-08-10 10:41:29 PM  
They need all gay government.
 
2014-08-10 10:41:40 PM  

Triumph: http://video.pbs.org/video/2365297690/

Best news doc I've seen this year.


BUT NO ONE COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING!!!!
 
2014-08-10 10:41:58 PM  

pion: gfid: Let the blood flow.  This is better than Game of Thrones.

You don't get it. This was their government finally trying to get its act together, refusing to appoint al-Maliki to a third term. Even his own party withdrew support from al-Maliki. Now he's using the Iraqi army to launch a coup against the new government. So, no, this is not "grumpycatGOOD.jpg." This is bad, and can only serve to embolden the ISIS terrorists.


US boots on the ground once again in 3, 2, 1...

/sorry, can't let the women and children get their throats cut, irrespective of their religion/sect
 
2014-08-10 10:42:25 PM  

BalugaJoe: They need all gay government.


Just think of all the scandals when the conservatives are caught in bed with a woman!
 
2014-08-10 10:42:26 PM  

gadian: Should've farking left Saddam in place.  It takes an evil madman to keep any sort of peace around there.


What if Maleki grows a biatching mustache?

Not sure if he's man enough though. Mustache takes a man.
 
2014-08-10 10:43:27 PM  

spawn73: What if Maleki grows a biatching mustache?


I'm not even sure helicopter mustache could help that guy.
 
2014-08-10 10:43:44 PM  
Why is the USA not seriously considering a three state solution?
 
2014-08-10 10:44:06 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-08-10 10:44:38 PM  
They are attacking forces loyal to the Obama Healthcare program.
 
2014-08-10 10:44:59 PM  

pion: gfid: grumpycatGOOD.jpg

Their government was already farked, corrupt and totally inept at making their country any more than a shiathile.

I don't have high hopes for the new regime, but it can't be much worse.

Let the blood flow.  This is better than Game of Thrones.

You don't get it. This was their government finally trying to get its act together, refusing to appoint al-Maliki to a third term. Even his own party withdrew support from al-Maliki. Now he's using the Iraqi army to launch a coup against the new government. So, no, this is not "grumpycatGOOD.jpg." This is bad, and can only serve to embolden the ISIS terrorists.


My thoughts exactly. Especially knowing that fractions of ISIS is the old Baath party.

If they lay of the Kurds, and go for Baghdad, who to support?

/Just kidding, USA will lie, and make friends with Maleki.
 
2014-08-10 10:45:40 PM  

spamdog: Why is the USA not seriously considering a three state solution?


Because one diluted nation of ideologies is better than three concentrated nations of ideology for our dearest ally.

Yeah.  I said it.
 
2014-08-10 10:46:08 PM  

Stone Meadow: pion: gfid: Let the blood flow.  This is better than Game of Thrones.

You don't get it. This was their government finally trying to get its act together, refusing to appoint al-Maliki to a third term. Even his own party withdrew support from al-Maliki. Now he's using the Iraqi army to launch a coup against the new government. So, no, this is not "grumpycatGOOD.jpg." This is bad, and can only serve to embolden the ISIS terrorists.

US boots on the ground once again in 3, 2, 1...

/sorry, can't let the women and children get their throats cut, irrespective of their religion/sect


LoL. fark off you pathetic hypocrite.
 
2014-08-10 10:46:44 PM  

doyner: spamdog: Why is the USA not seriously considering a three state solution?

Because one diluted nation of ideologies is better than three concentrated nations of ideology for our dearest ally.

Yeah.  I said it.


Ie. the Yugoslavia model.
 
2014-08-10 10:47:15 PM  

spamdog: Why is the USA not seriously considering a three state solution?


It's a little... colonial... to discuss plans to break up other countries. The heat from doing it with Kosovo is still rather high.
 
2014-08-10 10:47:42 PM  

doyner: So is it too late to discuss a three-state solution?  Because, unfortunately, the next one will otherwise be "final."


Our Turkish allies have tolerated a de-facto autonomous Kurdish enclave within Iraq.  A recognized Kurd state is a much bigger issue and the Turks have legitimate concerns about what happens with the Kurdish population and areas within its borders trying to secede to join with it.  'Friends to friends and enemies to enemies' doesn't work if your friends are enemies.

Bottom line: can the US afford to piss off Turkey?

NOPE
 
2014-08-10 10:48:03 PM  
Shia just hit the fan.
 
2014-08-10 10:49:32 PM  
I seem to remember something about the US forces being welcomed as liberators, people yearning for freedom and stability, etc.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
2014-08-10 10:49:45 PM  

12349876: gfid: grumpycatGOOD.jpg

Their government was already farked, corrupt and totally inept at making their country any more than a shiathile.

I don't have high hopes for the new regime, but it can't be much worse.

It's not a new regime.  It's the same old regime. Parliament tried to force out Prime Minister al-Malicki out and he's refusing and has the military supporting him, and he's doing shiat like trying to arrest the Kurdish President.


okay, maybe I jumped to conclusions.  I was only going by the headline and a very cursory review of the article.  I'll dismiss myself from this thread until I learn more.

But if it's more like you say it even proves how farked up and corrupt Maliki is.
 
2014-08-10 10:50:59 PM  

TheOther: doyner: So is it too late to discuss a three-state solution?  Because, unfortunately, the next one will otherwise be "final."

Our Turkish allies have tolerated a de-facto autonomous Kurdish enclave within Iraq.  A recognized Kurd state is a much bigger issue and the Turks have legitimate concerns about what happens with the Kurdish population and areas within its borders trying to secede to join with it.  'Friends to friends and enemies to enemies' doesn't work if your friends are enemies.

Bottom line: can the US afford to piss off Turkey?

NOPE


The Turks should have an even bigger problem with either a Sunni ISIS-dominated enclave of Iraq or a new dictator in Iraq. At least an independent Kurdistan would be stable, even if it does cause internal issues for Turkey.
 
2014-08-10 10:51:27 PM  
I spent about 9 months in Iraq.  Not there long, and I didn't do tour after tour like some folks, but I got to work a heck of a lot with the locals, and got to spend a lot of time with them.  So now I'm gonna tell you about Iraqis around the area just north of Baghdad.

1.) They drink alcohol.  They make their own bootleg schnapps.  They know of and will ask for Jack Daniels.
2.) Everyone has a cell phone.
3.) Everyone's cell phone is 100% full of smut.
4.) Everyone will show you the smut on their phone with no prompting.
5.) They make the most badassed rotisserie chicken you will ever have while alive.
6.) The soda cans are labelled in Arabic letters but read out to be english words.  The arabic writing on that Mountain Dew can reads... Mountain Dew.
7.) Iraqi chai tea is served in double shot glasses with a half of inch of sugar in the bottom and served at what I assume is one thousand degrees.
8.) Most of them are "Muslim" in the same way many here are "Christian" or "Catholic".  They don't particularly believe the spiel they're given, but they wear the mask in public to better fit in with their neighbors.
9.) They love pranks and slapstick.  I gifted a DVD of "Jackass 2" to a buddy of mine there, and within days the city had maybe a hundred thousand copies floating around.

And most important of all:

10.) They're people just like you and me.  They don't want trouble, want to be left the hell alone, have a good job and take care of their families, and have a beer once in a while without some dick knocking it over.  The differences between them and us are superficial.
 
2014-08-10 10:51:47 PM  
I'm waiting for some more confirmation. I can't see any links to primary sources here.
 
2014-08-10 10:52:25 PM  
Total warfare.
Total subjugation to the paramount king.
Total destruction.
 
2014-08-10 10:52:43 PM  

gadian: spawn73: What if Maleki grows a biatching mustache?

I'm not even sure helicopter mustache could help that guy.


He should shave then. No one in the Arab world takes a half beard seriously.
 
2014-08-10 10:53:30 PM  

Somacandra: I'm waiting for some more confirmation. I can't see any links to primary sources here.


It's all over BBC News and CNN right now.
 
2014-08-10 10:53:30 PM  

Mrbogey: spamdog: Why is the USA not seriously considering a three state solution?

It's a little... colonial... to discuss plans to break up other countries. The heat from doing it with Kosovo is still rather high.


It's colonial to break up a country that was created out of whole clothe by colonialists?
 
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