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(The Blaze)   "Law abiding" single mother with a concealed carry permit faces 11 years for not knowing that different states have different gun laws   (theblaze.com) divider line 394
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2014-08-10 12:53:24 PM  
Ignorance is no excuse.
 
2014-08-10 12:53:29 PM  
If liberals want to use full faith and credit for gay marriage (as it certainly should be), it should be used for concealed carry as well
 
2014-08-10 01:01:01 PM  
Why yes, the two are comparable.
 
2014-08-10 01:05:35 PM  
what?  no, that can't be right.  Surely they could overlook such a simple mistake.
[clicks article] [looks at photo]
oooohhhhhhh
 
2014-08-10 01:11:20 PM  

I_Am_Weasel: Why yes, the two are comparable.


You're right, they aren't comparable.

 Nobody is in danger of a felony conviction and a prison term for being in a same-sex marriage in a state that doesn't allow them.
 
2014-08-10 01:13:02 PM  

serial_crusher: what?  no, that can't be right.  Surely they could overlook such a simple mistake.
[clicks article] [looks at photo]
oooohhhhhhh


And people tell me I'm racist for suggesting that gun control disproportionately effects blacks.
 
2014-08-10 01:13:26 PM  
This is ridiculous. What about her kids?

It should make for a lively thread.
 
2014-08-10 01:15:52 PM  
  As a gun owner, I'm very aware of individual state gun laws.  EVERY gun owner should know this and there's little excuse for not.
 
2014-08-10 01:16:39 PM  
Can we go three days without a farking gun thre---we can't? Sorry, carry on.
 
2014-08-10 01:17:11 PM  
If she was so "law abiding," she wouldn't be facing jail time, wouldn't she?
 
2014-08-10 01:22:52 PM  
My first thought was, "I bet she was in Jersey and had hollowpoints." Ayup.

CSB: When I got my permit to carry on the job I had to take a state course. When covering the legal issues the instructor told us of an Ohio retired police officer that was pulled over in a similar situation to this poor woman. He notified the officer who pulled him over he was carrying, as required by law. They chatted it up while the officer inspected his weapon. That resulted in his arrest with thirty felony counts of carrying banned ammunition (one count for each round). The prosecutor told him if he plead to just one count the 29 others would be dismissed. He did, paid a fine, no jail, and went home. Then his checks quit coming. He called down to Columbus, "sorry sir, you are a convicted felon and your retirement is revoked."
/CSB

TL;DR: Stay the fark out of Jersey.
 
2014-08-10 01:24:01 PM  

dittybopper: I_Am_Weasel: Why yes, the two are comparable.

You're right, they aren't comparable.

 Nobody is in danger of a felony conviction and a prison term for being in a same-sex marriage in a state that doesn't allow them.


They marriage rights also aren't recognized.  Different place.  Different laws.  It's nothing new.

 A gay marriage is unlikely to stalk and kill people with Skittles and a drink.

People are also less like to be in danger of felony convictions and prison terms for following the laws of a different jurisdiction.
 
2014-08-10 01:27:09 PM  
Bam! Zimmerman reference! I need popcorn ...
 
2014-08-10 01:28:48 PM  

MAJ Ethanolic: As a gun owner, I'm very aware of individual state gun laws.  EVERY gun owner should know this and there's little excuse for not.


This. Why would you assume otherwise? Good grief.

I wonder if The Blaze will white knight for potheads from Colorado.
 
2014-08-10 01:31:38 PM  

HawgWild: If she was so "law abiding," she wouldn't be facing jail time, wouldn't she?


This, too.

"Law-abiding citizen breaks law."

I mean, seriously, I was law-abiding until I murdered someone. No one said, "Law-abiding man faces death penalty."
 
2014-08-10 01:34:57 PM  

dittybopper: I_Am_Weasel: Why yes, the two are comparable.

You're right, they aren't comparable.

 Nobody is in danger of a felony conviction and a prison term for being in a same-sex marriage in a state that doesn't allow them.


They are in Wisconsin. Wisconsin law makes it a crime to go to another state to get married in a way in violation of Wisconsin law.
 
2014-08-10 01:36:06 PM  

ArkAngel: If liberals want to use full faith and credit for gay marriage (as it certainly should be), it should be used for concealed carry as well


States don't tend to have wildly different qualifications for getting a marriage license. Plus, there's a difference between conditionally accepting some licenses from a state and unconditionally rejecting all licenses from a state.
 
2014-08-10 01:40:49 PM  
This woman is a clear and present danger to the safety of the Republic. I stand with those here who want her in JAIL. And let's hope those miserable little urchins of hers learn their lesson, too, seeing that awful mother of theirs behind bars. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. We must be firm and unforgiving with people like this. They deserve nothing less than to spend years behind bars for their crimes.
 
2014-08-10 01:45:57 PM  
First, I agree, she should have known better that one of the US's most popular types of self defense ammunition is arbitrarily banned in New Jersey, that information isn't necessarily explained in every CHL course in every state, as they tend to focus on their own state laws. Yes, she wasn't "law abiding". It's prudent if you are going to cross state lines to ensure compliance. And sure she's black, so nobody cares. But this is punishment beyond reason.
 
2014-08-10 01:55:14 PM  
Yeah, ignorant if her not to know. But for fark sake, there is no reason something that us legal in one state cann get you 11 years in the next state over...
 
2014-08-10 01:58:42 PM  

liam76: Yeah, ignorant if her not to know. But for fark sake, there is no reason something that us legal in one state cann get you 11 years in the next state over...


Especially for something you can buy over-the-counter at any Walmart....
 
2014-08-10 02:11:12 PM  
I bet the cops in New Jersey use jacketed hollow points.
 
2014-08-10 02:16:06 PM  

violentsalvation: I bet the cops in New Jersey use jacketed hollow points.


That's the specification, only they can.
 
2014-08-10 02:23:16 PM  
First things first, she was driving while black. And she was ARMED while black. With extra blacky ammunition.

This is how liberals keep minorities down without appearing racist. They're just as racist as everyone else, but they couch it in "she should have known" because they feel that gets them off the hook.
 
2014-08-10 02:24:45 PM  

OregonVet: My first thought was, "I bet she was in Jersey and had hollowpoints." Ayup.


I know that New Jersey doesn't honor any other state's concealed carry permits and it's almost impossible for New Jersey residents to get a permit, so based on that alone, she's screwed, but I don't see where she had JHPs loaded in her pistol.
 
2014-08-10 02:27:04 PM  

vygramul: MAJ Ethanolic: As a gun owner, I'm very aware of individual state gun laws.  EVERY gun owner should know this and there's little excuse for not.

This. Why would you assume otherwise? Good grief.

I wonder if The Blaze will white knight for potheads from Colorado.


Of course they would!  They named the website "The Blaze" for a reason, right?
 
2014-08-10 02:34:26 PM  
It's not really relevant to this discussion, but I've been giving this some thought - part of my problem with stories like this one is that I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would habitually carry a gun. I understand the attraction of target shooting, I understand hunting, but carrying a firearm as a matter of course is incomprehensible to me. They're heavy, they're bulky, they're expensive and a desirable target for thieves, and they're an enormous, ever-present responsibility. And unlike, say, a bottle opener, a lighter, or a roll of duct tape, there has never been a single moment in my 54 years on this rock when I have wished I had a gun with me but did not. I just don't get it.
 
2014-08-10 02:46:23 PM  

dustman81: I don't see where she had JHPs loaded in her pistol.


It's an additional 18mos if you RTFA.
 
2014-08-10 02:54:01 PM  
The only time conservative white folks get pissed off at black people getting f*cked over by the cops

Its like looking at a unicorn
 
2014-08-10 02:58:54 PM  
BBBBBBUT STATES RIGHTS!!!

Until it affects our beliefs!

/still a pretty ridiculous situation
 
2014-08-10 02:59:10 PM  

BMulligan: It's not really relevant to this discussion, but I've been giving this some thought - part of my problem with stories like this one is that I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would habitually carry a gun. I understand the attraction of target shooting, I understand hunting, but carrying a firearm as a matter of course is incomprehensible to me. They're heavy, they're bulky, they're expensive and a desirable target for thieves, and they're an enormous, ever-present responsibility. And unlike, say, a bottle opener, a lighter, or a roll of duct tape, there has never been a single moment in my 54 years on this rock when I have wished I had a gun with me but did not. I just don't get it.



Well....there was that one time I had to use an ATM in Everett at 3AM.

Other than that, I typically carry on road trips within the state.
 
2014-08-10 03:11:57 PM  

The_Sponge: Well....there was that one time I had to use an ATM in Everett at 3AM.

Other than that, I typically carry on road trips within the state.


As much as I fear and loathe Everett, it is certainly no more dangerous than Pioneer Square or Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, two places where I have spent plenty of late nights. As for carrying on road trips - why? I've gotten drunk in Oroville, I've gotten drunk and sung karaoke in Republic (the night before the opening day of deer season, so it was a regular Cletus convention), and I've gotten drunk and passed out on the sidewalk on Capitol Hill, but at no time did I ever feel that my life was threatened. Where are you travelling that is so Wild West?
 
2014-08-10 03:24:57 PM  

MAJ Ethanolic: As a gun owner, I'm very aware of individual state gun laws.  EVERY gun owner should know this and there's little excuse for not.


Yup.  I remember being told "Be sure to check the local laws if you take your firearms across a state line" from the firearms classes in Boy Scouts.

Part of being "a responsible gun owner" is knowing the laws.
 
2014-08-10 03:25:03 PM  

BMulligan: The_Sponge: Well....there was that one time I had to use an ATM in Everett at 3AM.

Other than that, I typically carry on road trips within the state.

As much as I fear and loathe Everett, it is certainly no more dangerous than Pioneer Square or Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, two places where I have spent plenty of late nights. As for carrying on road trips - why? I've gotten drunk in Oroville, I've gotten drunk and sung karaoke in Republic (the night before the opening day of deer season, so it was a regular Cletus convention), and I've gotten drunk and passed out on the sidewalk on Capitol Hill, but at no time did I ever feel that my life was threatened. Where are you travelling that is so Wild West?



Why?  Because I can....and have my permit....and it's good to have one in case my car breaks down.

/Don't carry that often.
//Never practice open carry.
 
2014-08-10 03:28:35 PM  

BMulligan: The_Sponge: Well....there was that one time I had to use an ATM in Everett at 3AM.

Other than that, I typically carry on road trips within the state.

As much as I fear and loathe Everett, it is certainly no more dangerous than Pioneer Square or Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, two places where I have spent plenty of late nights. As for carrying on road trips - why? I've gotten drunk in Oroville, I've gotten drunk and sung karaoke in Republic (the night before the opening day of deer season, so it was a regular Cletus convention), and I've gotten drunk and passed out on the sidewalk on Capitol Hill, but at no time did I ever feel that my life was threatened. Where are you travelling that is so Wild West?


The woman in tfa ... Camden maybe?
 
2014-08-10 03:29:52 PM  

The_Sponge: BMulligan: The_Sponge: Well....there was that one time I had to use an ATM in Everett at 3AM.

Other than that, I typically carry on road trips within the state.

As much as I fear and loathe Everett, it is certainly no more dangerous than Pioneer Square or Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, two places where I have spent plenty of late nights. As for carrying on road trips - why? I've gotten drunk in Oroville, I've gotten drunk and sung karaoke in Republic (the night before the opening day of deer season, so it was a regular Cletus convention), and I've gotten drunk and passed out on the sidewalk on Capitol Hill, but at no time did I ever feel that my life was threatened. Where are you travelling that is so Wild West?


Why?  Because I can....and have my permit....and it's good to have one in case my car breaks down.

/Don't carry that often.
//Never practice open carry.


Are you afraid someone is going to carjack your broke-ass ride?
 
2014-08-10 03:34:37 PM  

Karac: The_Sponge: BMulligan: The_Sponge: Well....there was that one time I had to use an ATM in Everett at 3AM.

Other than that, I typically carry on road trips within the state.

As much as I fear and loathe Everett, it is certainly no more dangerous than Pioneer Square or Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, two places where I have spent plenty of late nights. As for carrying on road trips - why? I've gotten drunk in Oroville, I've gotten drunk and sung karaoke in Republic (the night before the opening day of deer season, so it was a regular Cletus convention), and I've gotten drunk and passed out on the sidewalk on Capitol Hill, but at no time did I ever feel that my life was threatened. Where are you travelling that is so Wild West?


Why?  Because I can....and have my permit....and it's good to have one in case my car breaks down.

/Don't carry that often.
//Never practice open carry.

Are you afraid someone is going to carjack your broke-ass ride?



If you don't like concealed carry permits, don't get one.
 
2014-08-10 03:35:21 PM  

Lsherm: First things first, she was driving while black. And she was ARMED while black. With extra blacky ammunition.

This is how liberals keep minorities down without appearing racist. They're just as racist as everyone else, but they couch it in "she should have known" because they feel that gets them off the hook.


This is an exceptionally dumb post. Congratulations.
 
2014-08-10 03:42:06 PM  

HawgWild: Bam! Zimmerman reference! I need popcorn ...


And a beer.

/DRINK!
 
2014-08-10 03:45:06 PM  

ArkAngel: If liberals want to use full faith and credit for gay marriage (as it certainly should be), it should be used for concealed carry as well


Now I could be wrong, and please feel free to correct me if I am, but I cannot recall a single incidence of death or injury caused by gay marriage.
 
2014-08-10 03:55:52 PM  

Karac: Now I could be wrong, and please feel free to correct me if I am, but I cannot recall a single incidence of death or injury caused by gay marriage.


http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/a-same-sex-domesti c- violence-epidemic-is-silent/281131/
 
2014-08-10 04:09:48 PM  

OregonVet: Karac: Now I could be wrong, and please feel free to correct me if I am, but I cannot recall a single incidence of death or injury caused by gay marriage.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/a-same-sex-domesti c- violence-epidemic-is-silent/281131/


Read the article, failed to see a single mention of marriage.  Still waiting to see the smoking marriage license.
 
2014-08-10 04:10:09 PM  
Ignorance of New Jersey is no excuse.

/Though understandable.
 
2014-08-10 04:11:15 PM  

The_Sponge: BMulligan: The_Sponge: Well....there was that one time I had to use an ATM in Everett at 3AM.

Other than that, I typically carry on road trips within the state.

As much as I fear and loathe Everett, it is certainly no more dangerous than Pioneer Square or Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, two places where I have spent plenty of late nights. As for carrying on road trips - why? I've gotten drunk in Oroville, I've gotten drunk and sung karaoke in Republic (the night before the opening day of deer season, so it was a regular Cletus convention), and I've gotten drunk and passed out on the sidewalk on Capitol Hill, but at no time did I ever feel that my life was threatened. Where are you travelling that is so Wild West?


Why?  Because I can....and have my permit....and it's good to have one in case my car breaks down.

/Don't carry that often.
//Never practice open carry.


It's a car, not a horse. You're not going to put it down, so you won't need a gun when it breaks down.

I get that you have a permit, and you're right - you have the right to carry. That's completely irrelevant to my question. Why do you want to carry around anything that heavy, that bulky, that inconvenient, and that that useless? I feel as though if I could understand that, I could maybe begin to empathize with gun nuts.
 
2014-08-10 04:17:58 PM  

Karac: OregonVet: Karac: Now I could be wrong, and please feel free to correct me if I am, but I cannot recall a single incidence of death or injury caused by gay marriage.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/11/a-same-sex-domesti c- violence-epidemic-is-silent/281131/

Read the article, failed to see a single mention of marriage.  Still waiting to see the smoking marriage license.


So you acknowledge there is no correlation between a license and violence. Thanks. My CHL is in my wallet across the room, better check to see if it's smoking.
 
2014-08-10 04:20:24 PM  

dittybopper: serial_crusher: what?  no, that can't be right.  Surely they could overlook such a simple mistake.
[clicks article] [looks at photo]
oooohhhhhhh

And people tell me I'm racist for suggesting that gun control disproportionately effects blacks.


She should go to prison, but so should a middle aged white bank manager caught in the same situation.

ArkAngel: If liberals want to use full faith and credit for gay marriage (as it certainly should be), it should be used for concealed carry as well


It's a completely different situation.  Prohibitions against gay marriage take the same right (marriage) and dole it out differently based on a natural characteristic of some people (homosexuality).

Non-reciprocity of concealed carry permits and differing gun laws between states apply equally to all - it doesn't matter if you're a gay man, straight woman, black, or white the law applies equally to you.  If it isn't enforced equally then that's an issue that should be taken up with the police and the DA to change things so that it is.

OregonVet: First, I agree, she should have known better that one of the US's most popular types of self defense ammunition is arbitrarily banned in New Jersey, that information isn't necessarily explained in every CHL course in every state, as they tend to focus on their own state laws. Yes, she wasn't "law abiding". It's prudent if you are going to cross state lines to ensure compliance. And sure she's black, so nobody cares. But this is punishment beyond reason.


NJ has had the foresight to ban cop-killer bullets, she willingly loaded her gun with them and brought them into NJ without bothering to research if doing so were legal or not (or she knew and just hoped she wouldn't get caught).  She did the crime, she should do the time.

This could have easily been avoided by just not taking her gun on the road trip.
 
2014-08-10 04:23:01 PM  

xanadian: HawgWild: Bam! Zimmerman reference! I need popcorn ...

And a beer.

/DRINK!


God... DAMMIT!

OK.  Listen y'all.  If I am going to make it to 2015, there have got to be at least a few hours when I'm not drinking.  Work with me here, people.
 
2014-08-10 04:25:17 PM  

BMulligan: The_Sponge: BMulligan: The_Sponge: Well....there was that one time I had to use an ATM in Everett at 3AM.

Other than that, I typically carry on road trips within the state.

As much as I fear and loathe Everett, it is certainly no more dangerous than Pioneer Square or Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood, two places where I have spent plenty of late nights. As for carrying on road trips - why? I've gotten drunk in Oroville, I've gotten drunk and sung karaoke in Republic (the night before the opening day of deer season, so it was a regular Cletus convention), and I've gotten drunk and passed out on the sidewalk on Capitol Hill, but at no time did I ever feel that my life was threatened. Where are you travelling that is so Wild West?


Why?  Because I can....and have my permit....and it's good to have one in case my car breaks down.

/Don't carry that often.
//Never practice open carry.

It's a car, not a horse. You're not going to put it down, so you won't need a gun when it breaks down.

I get that you have a permit, and you're right - you have the right to carry. That's completely irrelevant to my question. Why do you want to carry around anything that heavy, that bulky, that inconvenient, and that that useless? I feel as though if I could understand that, I could maybe begin to empathize with gun nuts.


Not all guns are heavy and bulky. I alternate carrying either a Sig P938 which is a tiny, subcompact 9mm, and a Smith and Wesson 637 which is a 5 round compact snub nosed revolver. Either gun fits in a pocket holster in my front pocket. As to why I carry, I have my reasons, though I choose not to discuss them here.
 
2014-08-10 04:29:46 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: NJ has had the foresight to ban cop-killer bullets, she willingly loaded her gun with them and brought them into NJ without bothering to research if doing so were legal or not (or she knew and just hoped she wouldn't get caught).


Cop killer bullets (such as RINO) are not available to the public... Personal defense rounds, such as PDX, and the lot are actually preferable in that they don't over penetrate, and happen to be hollowpoint.
 
2014-08-10 04:31:35 PM  
What we need is federal legislation regarding carrying guns. Yes.
 
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