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(Deadline)   It's official: Paramount has given the go-ahead for a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles sequel, and Michael Bay is already confirmed as director. Not too bad for the big-budget version of Uwe Boll   (deadline.com) divider line 74
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2014-08-10 01:20:35 PM
As long as his movies keep making money they will keep paying him to make them
 
2014-08-10 01:28:47 PM

Metalupis: As long as his movies keep making money they will keep paying him to make them


It's August, of course it made money, there's no competition. The suits are wising up to not releasing their shiat in May June or July.
 
2014-08-10 04:27:38 PM
It's a kid's flick, leave it alone.

Foodie gourmets don't biatch about baby formula, do they?
 
KIA
2014-08-10 04:28:01 PM
I'm calling bullshiat on the numbers.  Tried to get into Guardians of the Galaxy at the local Alamo and found all seats sold at all showings today (Sunday) from 11 AM through 9 PM.

By contrast, only half the theater seats have been sold for TMNT at the 7:00 show and only 7 seats have been sold at the 9:30 show.

Before anyone says the Alamo is a bad example because they don't allow unescorted kids, I checked Cobb, which also has reserved seating.  No seats sold for TMNT at 8, 9:30 or 10.

There is an (old) Regal nearby too, but they don't have reserved seating so I can't see how many they have sold.

But I'm sticking by my original premise: someone is cooking these numbers pretty heavily.  I'll wait to see what the actual numbers are on Monday night.
 
2014-08-10 04:32:14 PM
....Paramount has given the go-ahead for a Teenage Mu-


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2014-08-10 04:33:11 PM

KIA: I'm calling bullshiat on the numbers.  Tried to get into Guardians of the Galaxy at the local Alamo and found all seats sold at all showings today (Sunday) from 11 AM through 9 PM.

By contrast, only half the theater seats have been sold for TMNT at the 7:00 show and only 7 seats have been sold at the 9:30 show.

Before anyone says the Alamo is a bad example because they don't allow unescorted kids, I checked Cobb, which also has reserved seating.  No seats sold for TMNT at 8, 9:30 or 10.

There is an (old) Regal nearby too, but they don't have reserved seating so I can't see how many they have sold.

But I'm sticking by my original premise: someone is cooking these numbers pretty heavily.  I'll wait to see what the actual numbers are on Monday night.


You checking the Winchester Alamo, or Ashburn? I got in for GotG in Winchester last Sunday night for a 9:55 showing, no problem. The theater was decently full, but not packed. I didn't have anyone for five or six seats to either side of me.
 
2014-08-10 04:34:43 PM
The only thing I ever really liked about TMNT were the mini mutant action figures that came out in the early to mid nineties. They don't make toys like those anymore.
 
2014-08-10 04:39:13 PM
The only sequel that loses money is the last one.
 
2014-08-10 05:03:23 PM

KIA: I'm calling bullshiat on the numbers.  Tried to get into Guardians of the Galaxy at the local Alamo and found all seats sold at all showings today (Sunday) from 11 AM through 9 PM.

By contrast, only half the theater seats have been sold for TMNT at the 7:00 show and only 7 seats have been sold at the 9:30 show.

Before anyone says the Alamo is a bad example because they don't allow unescorted kids, I checked Cobb, which also has reserved seating.  No seats sold for TMNT at 8, 9:30 or 10.

There is an (old) Regal nearby too, but they don't have reserved seating so I can't see how many they have sold.

But I'm sticking by my original premise: someone is cooking these numbers pretty heavily.  I'll wait to see what the actual numbers are on Monday night.


This is Micahel Bay's Benghazi.
Oh great, I think I just inadvertently gave Hollywood an idea...
 
2014-08-10 05:05:38 PM
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2014-08-10 05:10:00 PM
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2014-08-10 05:10:03 PM

KIA: I'm calling bullshiat on the numbers.  Tried to get into Guardians of the Galaxy at the local Alamo and found all seats sold at all showings today (Sunday) from 11 AM through 9 PM.

By contrast, only half the theater seats have been sold for TMNT at the 7:00 show and only 7 seats have been sold at the 9:30 show.

Before anyone says the Alamo is a bad example because they don't allow unescorted kids, I checked Cobb, which also has reserved seating.  No seats sold for TMNT at 8, 9:30 or 10.

There is an (old) Regal nearby too, but they don't have reserved seating so I can't see how many they have sold.

But I'm sticking by my original premise: someone is cooking these numbers pretty heavily.  I'll wait to see what the actual numbers are on Monday night.


so are you a real person or some kind of anti-fact bot?
 
2014-08-10 05:28:55 PM
Subby, TFA says that Bay will produce again, not direct.

Also, why do grown men seem to have an emotional stake in whether Ninja Turtles makes more money than Guardians?
 
2014-08-10 05:41:11 PM
Pretty simple.

Don't see it.

I know I won't.
 
2014-08-10 06:09:09 PM

moothemagiccow: KIA: I'm calling bullshiat on the numbers.  Tried to get into Guardians of the Galaxy at the local Alamo and found all seats sold at all showings today (Sunday) from 11 AM through 9 PM.

By contrast, only half the theater seats have been sold for TMNT at the 7:00 show and only 7 seats have been sold at the 9:30 show.

Before anyone says the Alamo is a bad example because they don't allow unescorted kids, I checked Cobb, which also has reserved seating.  No seats sold for TMNT at 8, 9:30 or 10.

There is an (old) Regal nearby too, but they don't have reserved seating so I can't see how many they have sold.

But I'm sticking by my original premise: someone is cooking these numbers pretty heavily.  I'll wait to see what the actual numbers are on Monday night.

so are you a real person or some kind of anti-fact bot?


Apparently Marvel fanbois can't even comprehend another movie outselling the blessed ones.
 
2014-08-10 06:12:04 PM

stoli n coke: Subby, TFA says that Bay will produce again, not direct.

Also, why do grown men seem to have an emotional stake in whether Ninja Turtles makes more money than Guardians?


For me, it isn't so much wanting to see Guardians outperform TMNT as it is wanting to see a lovingly-crafted well-written movie stomp the tar out of the latest iteration of a property that's already been to the silver screen on four previous occasions, produced by a hack director who's already ruined one beloved franchise.
 
2014-08-10 06:26:01 PM

BroVinny: stoli n coke: Subby, TFA says that Bay will produce again, not direct.

Also, why do grown men seem to have an emotional stake in whether Ninja Turtles makes more money than Guardians?

For me, it isn't so much wanting to see Guardians outperform TMNT as it is wanting to see a lovingly-crafted well-written movie stomp the tar out of the latest iteration of a property that's already been to the silver screen on four previous occasions, produced by a hack director who's already ruined one beloved franchise.


Guardians is already kicking the crap out of TMNT, with a first week gross that was really high and good legs through the first week second weekend. Even though TMNT won the weekend, Guardians is going to do a lot better in the final tally, especially if it keeps it legs and TMNT drops a lot next weekend.

There's really no reason to get too upset that TMNT won the weekend. Yeah, it would have been nice for Guardians to do well, but I'm just happy it is doing better than The Winter Soldier so far. Just the fact that the directors from Community and the guy who did Super both delivered in a big way the year is going to make Hollywood rethink making every movie a Baysplosion fest.
 
2014-08-10 06:28:15 PM

BroVinny: stoli n coke: Subby, TFA says that Bay will produce again, not direct.

Also, why do grown men seem to have an emotional stake in whether Ninja Turtles makes more money than Guardians?

For me, it isn't so much wanting to see Guardians outperform TMNT as it is wanting to see a lovingly-crafted well-written movie stomp the tar out of the latest iteration of a property that's already been to the silver screen on four previous occasions, produced by a hack director who's already ruined one beloved franchise.


Can't be worse than TMNT 2 from back in the day.
 
2014-08-10 06:30:11 PM

hammer85: moothemagiccow: KIA: I'm calling bullshiat on the numbers.  Tried to get into Guardians of the Galaxy at the local Alamo and found all seats sold at all showings today (Sunday) from 11 AM through 9 PM.

By contrast, only half the theater seats have been sold for TMNT at the 7:00 show and only 7 seats have been sold at the 9:30 show.

Before anyone says the Alamo is a bad example because they don't allow unescorted kids, I checked Cobb, which also has reserved seating.  No seats sold for TMNT at 8, 9:30 or 10.

There is an (old) Regal nearby too, but they don't have reserved seating so I can't see how many they have sold.

But I'm sticking by my original premise: someone is cooking these numbers pretty heavily.  I'll wait to see what the actual numbers are on Monday night.

so are you a real person or some kind of anti-fact bot?

Apparently Marvel fanbois can't even comprehend another movie outselling the blessed ones.

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2014-08-10 06:32:01 PM

BroVinny: stoli n coke: Subby, TFA says that Bay will produce again, not direct.

Also, why do grown men seem to have an emotional stake in whether Ninja Turtles makes more money than Guardians?

For me, it isn't so much wanting to see Guardians outperform TMNT as it is wanting to see a lovingly-crafted well-written movie stomp the tar out of the latest iteration of a property that's already been to the silver screen on four previous occasions, produced by a hack director who's already ruined one beloved franchise.


Beloved franchise? Picking up a little rose colored nostalgia. The Transformers and Ninja Turtles cartoons weren't exactly known for quality. If you watch them now, they're really just 30 minute toy commercials with the occasional bits of coolness thrown in.

Plus, while the Transformers movies were certainly flawed and Ninja Turtles likely is too, I have to resign myself to the fact that I knew that, as an adult, I would not enjoy the movies as much as I enjoyed the cartoons when I was 10. But today's 10 year olds might.

We're not the audience for these kinds of movies. We outgrew the franchises. Complaining about them is like complaining about how a birthday clown doesn't make you laugh now as much as you did when you were 6.
 
2014-08-10 06:42:26 PM

stoli n coke: We're not the audience for these kinds of movies. We outgrew the franchises. Complaining about them is like complaining about how a birthday clown doesn't make you laugh now as much as you did when you were 6.


I never got the appeal to begin with...( OTOH, this TMNT stuff came out when I was already in High School...)

/ too old
 
2014-08-10 06:54:46 PM

hammer85: moothemagiccow: KIA: I'm calling bullshiat on the numbers.  Tried to get into Guardians of the Galaxy at the local Alamo and found all seats sold at all showings today (Sunday) from 11 AM through 9 PM.

By contrast, only half the theater seats have been sold for TMNT at the 7:00 show and only 7 seats have been sold at the 9:30 show.

Before anyone says the Alamo is a bad example because they don't allow unescorted kids, I checked Cobb, which also has reserved seating.  No seats sold for TMNT at 8, 9:30 or 10.

There is an (old) Regal nearby too, but they don't have reserved seating so I can't see how many they have sold.

But I'm sticking by my original premise: someone is cooking these numbers pretty heavily.  I'll wait to see what the actual numbers are on Monday night.

so are you a real person or some kind of anti-fact bot?

Apparently Marvel fanbois can't even comprehend another movie outselling the blessed ones.


 I see KIA posting nonsense regularly in the politics tab. Usually those folks act semi-normal outside of political discussions
 
2014-08-10 07:28:59 PM
Subby apparently fails at reading comprehension.
 
2014-08-10 07:33:51 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: BroVinny: stoli n coke: Subby, TFA says that Bay will produce again, not direct.

Also, why do grown men seem to have an emotional stake in whether Ninja Turtles makes more money than Guardians?

For me, it isn't so much wanting to see Guardians outperform TMNT as it is wanting to see a lovingly-crafted well-written movie stomp the tar out of the latest iteration of a property that's already been to the silver screen on four previous occasions, produced by a hack director who's already ruined one beloved franchise.

Can't be worse than TMNT 2 from back in the day.


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2014-08-10 07:34:18 PM
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2014-08-10 07:52:56 PM

Apos: ....Paramount has given the go-ahead for a Teenage Mu-


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2014-08-10 08:31:31 PM

TheManofPA: thismomentinblackhistory: BroVinny: stoli n coke: Subby, TFA says that Bay will produce again, not direct.

Also, why do grown men seem to have an emotional stake in whether Ninja Turtles makes more money than Guardians?

For me, it isn't so much wanting to see Guardians outperform TMNT as it is wanting to see a lovingly-crafted well-written movie stomp the tar out of the latest iteration of a property that's already been to the silver screen on four previous occasions, produced by a hack director who's already ruined one beloved franchise.

Can't be worse than TMNT 2 from back in the day.

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NINJA
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Am I the only person who actually liked those movies?
 
2014-08-10 08:47:48 PM
I still stay that if it wasn't for Harrison Ford, George Lucas would have been the ORIGINAL Michael Bay.  Neither of them can direct worth a shiat, they both LOVE special effects and explosions...luckily George Lucas had Harrison Ford to carry his dumb ass through two movie trilogies (Crystal Skull?  I have no idea what you are talking about)
 
2014-08-10 08:49:25 PM

hammer85: TheManofPA: thismomentinblackhistory: BroVinny: stoli n coke: Subby, TFA says that Bay will produce again, not direct.

Also, why do grown men seem to have an emotional stake in whether Ninja Turtles makes more money than Guardians?

For me, it isn't so much wanting to see Guardians outperform TMNT as it is wanting to see a lovingly-crafted well-written movie stomp the tar out of the latest iteration of a property that's already been to the silver screen on four previous occasions, produced by a hack director who's already ruined one beloved franchise.

Can't be worse than TMNT 2 from back in the day.

GO
NINJA
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NINJA
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Am I the only person who actually liked those movies?


The Original one is actually a rather good movie. Casey Jones is quite suave in it.
 
2014-08-10 08:52:05 PM

user437: Maybe 30 somethings shouldn't go to a movie aimed at 13 year old boys and expect to be entertained.


They ain't doing much to disprove the Comic Book Guy stereotype.
 
2014-08-10 09:10:40 PM

KIA: I'm calling bullshiat on the numbers.  Tried to get into Guardians of the Galaxy at the local Alamo and found all seats sold at all showings today (Sunday) from 11 AM through 9 PM.

By contrast, only half the theater seats have been sold for TMNT at the 7:00 show and only 7 seats have been sold at the 9:30 show.

Before anyone says the Alamo is a bad example because they don't allow unescorted kids, I checked Cobb, which also has reserved seating.  No seats sold for TMNT at 8, 9:30 or 10.

There is an (old) Regal nearby too, but they don't have reserved seating so I can't see how many they have sold.

But I'm sticking by my original premise: someone is cooking these numbers pretty heavily.  I'll wait to see what the actual numbers are on Monday night.


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KIA
2014-08-10 09:33:45 PM

Sid_6.7: You checking the Winchester Alamo, or Ashburn?


Ashburn.  YMMV.

moothemagiccow: so are you a real person or some kind of anti-fact bot?


Umm... dammit, now I'm having an existential crisis!  By consistently questioning dubious principles and challenging allegations that do not seem to be supported by empiric observations, have I become an anti-fact bot?

Nope.  Still here.  Must be real.
 
2014-08-10 09:34:28 PM
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2014-08-10 09:35:36 PM

KIA: Sid_6.7: You checking the Winchester Alamo, or Ashburn?

Ashburn.  YMMV.

moothemagiccow: so are you a real person or some kind of anti-fact bot?

Umm... dammit, now I'm having an existential crisis!  By consistently questioning dubious principles and challenging allegations that do not seem to be supported by empiric observations, have I become an anti-fact bot?

Nope.  Still here.  Must be real.


You're basing your thesis on the performance of a movie marketed towards children on data from a theater with a restrictive policy on admitting children. That's like me claiming that kids don't watch football because no kids were at the sports bar I was at last night.
 
2014-08-10 09:45:12 PM
Its fun to watch GotG fanbois so butthurt over TMNT beating it out of boxoffice. GotG is a success. It's getting a sequel. Nothing Ninja Turtles does will change that.

At least half of you paid to see Secret of the Ooze back in the day. So why are you getting angry that people are going to see this one?
 
2014-08-10 09:53:46 PM

Mugato: Metalupis: As long as his movies keep making money they will keep paying him to make them

It's August, of course it made money, there's no competition. The suits are wising up to not releasing their shiat in May June or July.


WTF are you smoking?
 
2014-08-10 09:56:47 PM
I saw the movie today. Not nearly as bad as Transformers. Whereas Transformers doesn't seem to know who its intended for, TMNT is definitely for kids. It's got a few token adult jokes, but for the most part, it's aimed squarely at kids. And at least in my theater, the kids LOVED it.

I thought Megan Fox really made a good effort to act in this movie, and she almost succeeded. She almost acted.

Michael Bay was one of like 4 producers listed in the credits. I wonder how much input he actually had in the movie. He definitely wasn't in the editing room, that's for sure. The editing is much more competent than Transformers.
 
2014-08-10 10:00:44 PM

Nova81426: I saw the movie today. Not nearly as bad as Transformers. Whereas Transformers doesn't seem to know who its intended for, TMNT is definitely for kids. It's got a few token adult jokes, but for the most part, it's aimed squarely at kids. And at least in my theater, the kids LOVED it.

I thought Megan Fox really made a good effort to act in this movie, and she almost succeeded. She almost acted.

Michael Bay was one of like 4 producers listed in the credits. I wonder how much input he actually had in the movie. He definitely wasn't in the editing room, that's for sure. The editing is much more competent than Transformers.


From what I've seen, it looks like he mainly approved the visual style, like he's done with all the movies he produced.
It's sort of like how all Jerry Bruckheimer's movies kind of look the same, even through there's different directors.

And given that he had Transformers on his plate already, I'm guessing the majority of his contribution was watching the dailies and giving the director notes.
 
2014-08-10 10:02:32 PM

TheManofPA: hammer85: TheManofPA: thismomentinblackhistory: BroVinny: stoli n coke: Subby, TFA says that Bay will produce again, not direct.

Also, why do grown men seem to have an emotional stake in whether Ninja Turtles makes more money than Guardians?

For me, it isn't so much wanting to see Guardians outperform TMNT as it is wanting to see a lovingly-crafted well-written movie stomp the tar out of the latest iteration of a property that's already been to the silver screen on four previous occasions, produced by a hack director who's already ruined one beloved franchise.

Can't be worse than TMNT 2 from back in the day.

GO
NINJA
GO
NINJA
GO
NINJA
GO!

Am I the only person who actually liked those movies?

The Original one is actually a rather good movie. Casey Jones is quite suave in it.


This.  And I've seen again in the last 2-3 years.  It still holds up far better than I'd expected.
 
2014-08-10 10:06:03 PM
I saw the movie Friday night. Took my 8 year old son; he thought it was fantastic. It made me a wee bit nostalgic, and there were some fun jokes for adults. Slow beginning, but it picked up. I'm no fan girl, but I had fun. I can see where people have been pissy about canon being thrown out the window, but whatever. It wasn't a terrible movie.

No Vanilla Ice cameo. I kind of expected it for some reason, especially after the Mac and Cheese commercial.

My favorite line: "They're not dead, numb nuts!"
 
2014-08-10 10:11:39 PM
Hey subby, producer and director aren't the same thing.

Michael Bay didn't direct the one out now and that article doesn't say anything about him directing the sequel.
 
2014-08-10 10:19:58 PM

kroonermanblack: Mugato: Metalupis: As long as his movies keep making money they will keep paying him to make them

It's August, of course it made money, there's no competition. The suits are wising up to not releasing their shiat in May June or July.

WTF are you smoking?


Crystal meth. But yeah, they knew this movie would have gotten its ass kicked against the Marvel movies so they brought it out at the end of summer.
 
2014-08-10 10:31:47 PM

Mugato: kroonermanblack: Mugato: Metalupis: As long as his movies keep making money they will keep paying him to make them

It's August, of course it made money, there's no competition. The suits are wising up to not releasing their shiat in May June or July.

WTF are you smoking?

Crystal meth. But yeah, they knew this movie would have gotten its ass kicked against the Marvel movies so they brought it out at the end of summer.


Yes where there is, thankfully, no Marvel movie competing against it.
 
2014-08-10 10:36:05 PM

Omis: Mugato: kroonermanblack: Mugato: Metalupis: As long as his movies keep making money they will keep paying him to make them

It's August, of course it made money, there's no competition. The suits are wising up to not releasing their shiat in May June or July.

WTF are you smoking?

Crystal meth. But yeah, they knew this movie would have gotten its ass kicked against the Marvel movies so they brought it out at the end of summer.

Yes where there is, thankfully, no Marvel movie competing against it.


Lesser known franchise. It was a smarter play putting it out now instead of going up against X-Men, Transformers, or Planet of the Apes, and probably put on hold strictly so Bay's company didn't have 2 movies competing against themselves.
 
2014-08-10 10:39:41 PM
Subby is already confirmed as a dipshiat.
 
2014-08-10 10:39:56 PM

Omis: Mugato: kroonermanblack: Mugato: Metalupis: As long as his movies keep making money they will keep paying him to make them

It's August, of course it made money, there's no competition. The suits are wising up to not releasing their shiat in May June or July.

WTF are you smoking?

Crystal meth. But yeah, they knew this movie would have gotten its ass kicked against the Marvel movies so they brought it out at the end of summer.

Yes where there is, thankfully, no Marvel movie competing against it.


In its second week, nowadays most movies aren't #1 more than a week. Guardians of the Galaxy sank pretty hard, it's not like its a property anyone's even heard of.
 
2014-08-10 11:01:04 PM

Mugato: Omis: Mugato: kroonermanblack: Mugato: Metalupis: As long as his movies keep making money they will keep paying him to make them

It's August, of course it made money, there's no competition. The suits are wising up to not releasing their shiat in May June or July.

WTF are you smoking?

Crystal meth. But yeah, they knew this movie would have gotten its ass kicked against the Marvel movies so they brought it out at the end of summer.

Yes where there is, thankfully, no Marvel movie competing against it.

In its second week, nowadays most movies aren't #1 more than a week. Guardians of the Galaxy sank pretty hard, it's not like its a property anyone's even heard of.


I think it had more to do with Bayformers being released in the early summer than anything else. Besides movie studios will rarely release big budget movies in the same week. Thats just asking for trouble.
 
2014-08-10 11:19:14 PM

stoli n coke: Omis: Mugato: kroonermanblack: Mugato: Metalupis: As long as his movies keep making money they will keep paying him to make them

It's August, of course it made money, there's no competition. The suits are wising up to not releasing their shiat in May June or July.

WTF are you smoking?

Crystal meth. But yeah, they knew this movie would have gotten its ass kicked against the Marvel movies so they brought it out at the end of summer.

Yes where there is, thankfully, no Marvel movie competing against it.

Lesser known franchise. It was a smarter play putting it out now instead of going up against X-Men, Transformers, or Planet of the Apes, and probably put on hold strictly so Bay's company didn't have 2 movies competing against themselves.


Not really.  Guardians will end up outgrossing all 3 of those movies.  Didn't seem to matter for TMNT.
 
2014-08-10 11:30:25 PM
The worst part of this entire ordeal is the enlightened ones trudging out the old "well they were just toy commercials" to excuse the same behavior they're condemning the past for. Okay, second worst. The worst is the "turn off your brain" crowd. How about you guys turn yours on?

/Paramount is so desperate it's greenlight another Turtles or start giving handjobs.
 
2014-08-11 12:17:24 AM

Critch: stoli n coke: Omis: Mugato: kroonermanblack: Mugato: Metalupis: As long as his movies keep making money they will keep paying him to make them

It's August, of course it made money, there's no competition. The suits are wising up to not releasing their shiat in May June or July.

WTF are you smoking?

Crystal meth. But yeah, they knew this movie would have gotten its ass kicked against the Marvel movies so they brought it out at the end of summer.

Yes where there is, thankfully, no Marvel movie competing against it.

Lesser known franchise. It was a smarter play putting it out now instead of going up against X-Men, Transformers, or Planet of the Apes, and probably put on hold strictly so Bay's company didn't have 2 movies competing against themselves.

Not really.  Guardians will end up outgrossing all 3 of those movies.  Didn't seem to matter for TMNT.


And who is Guardians competing against? They also moved it to an August release to avoid competition, since most comic book/sci fi fans had already seen the other ones. Their biggest competition, Planet of the Apes, had been out for nearly a month by that time.

Think about it, if Guardians had opened the same weekend as X-Men or Planet of the Apes, average moviegoers who are not die hard Marvel fans would have checked out the latter films, because they were both established franchises and both new installments had critical acclaim. Then, by the time they got around to seeing Guardians, it would have already been taken out.

They didn't want to make the same mistake that Warners made putting Pacific Rim out the same weekend as a sequel to a successful animated franchise and a sequel to an Adam Sandler franchise.

Just look at what happened to Edge of Tomorrow. If Guardians had come out in the middle of the June/July blockbuster rush, it would have had a similar box office fate in the U.S.
 
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