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(Marketwatch)   U.S consumers now say 'nyet' to Russian vodka   (marketwatch.com) divider line 68
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2014-08-10 09:46:31 AM  
The vodka market's biggest gains were made by Tito's, with volume sales growth of 68%

And they deserve it. Damn good vodka, and easily the best in its price range.

The only really good imports I can remember having were all non-Russian potato vodkas, Chopin for example.
 
2014-08-10 09:48:11 AM  
we pick up french vodak from costco. it's pretty decent... and cheap. fark russia.
 
2014-08-10 10:27:23 AM  
Svedka really is the best value.
 
2014-08-10 11:21:29 AM  
I really like Krowleska vodka from Poland.

A rye vodka, oddly enough.
 
2014-08-10 11:22:28 AM  
...and, of course, I misspelled it. \

Krolewska.
 
2014-08-10 11:25:51 AM  

Sid_6.7: The vodka market's biggest gains were made by Tito's, with volume sales growth of 68%

And they deserve it. Damn good vodka, and easily the best in its price range.

The only really good imports I can remember having were all non-Russian potato vodkas, Chopin for example.


I don't like potato vodkas--they feel tarry or something to me. I love the rye ones and there is a Russian type made from wild grasses in autumn that is really amazing. (I can't remember any of the brands you can find here, sorry.)

Tito's is very good and well-priced.

Rogue makes an incredibly lovely malt vodka but it's a pretty small batch so it can be hard to find. (Their gins are exceptional.)

I like Ultimat for a nice round vodka--it's rye, wheat, and potato so it's got the best of all worlds. It's not cheap though.
 
2014-08-10 11:38:04 AM  

cirby: ...and, of course, I misspelled it. \

Krolewska.


I'll have to see if I can find that. Rye vodkas are so clean and *warm* somehow.
 
2014-08-10 11:40:54 AM  

In 2013, the amount of vodka imported from Russia into the U.S. dropped 70% from the prior year, according to the Distilled Spirits Council of the US (DISCUS) based on U.S. government data. Also, none of the top 10 selling vodka brands in the U.S. was from Russia.


I thought this was going to be another episode of "freedom fries" foolishness but the data came from 2013.

Oh, and it's ANOTHER DAMN FARK HEADLINE THAT SIMPLY COPIES THE HEADLINE FROM TFA.
 
2014-08-10 11:41:34 AM  
TFA kind of makes it sound like US consumers have been shying away from Russian vodka for some time.
 
2014-08-10 11:44:07 AM  

Englebert Slaptyback: ANOTHER DAMN FARK HEADLINE THAT SIMPLY COPIES THE HEADLINE FROM TFA.


I get most of my greens with quotes from TFA. LOL I apologize.

/not this Subby
 
2014-08-10 12:15:35 PM  
Krolewska

ginandbacon:
I'll have to see if I can find that. Rye vodkas are so clean and *warm* somehow.

That's exactly the way to describe it. Wonderful flavor, and warm. Tasty as hell.
 
2014-08-10 12:26:10 PM  

cirby: Krolewska

ginandbacon:
I'll have to see if I can find that. Rye vodkas are so clean and *warm* somehow.

That's exactly the way to describe it. Wonderful flavor, and warm. Tasty as hell.


I had to update your farky to "knows from vodka" I hope that's okay ;)
 
2014-08-10 12:32:42 PM  
The way things are in Russia, I'd be concerned about the quality and safety of any Russian vodka. Buy a nice clean vodka from somewhere else.
 
2014-08-10 12:33:57 PM  

cirby: Krolewska

ginandbacon:
I'll have to see if I can find that. Rye vodkas are so clean and *warm* somehow.

That's exactly the way to describe it. Wonderful flavor, and warm. Tasty as hell.


Huh, maybe I'll seek one out.  I've never been a vodka fan because I've never found it to taste like anything but alcohol.  I thought that the ideal for vodka was to have no taste, is that not correct?  If there are vodkas with actual flavor, maybe they're worth exploring.
 
2014-08-10 12:41:06 PM  
Tried this on Monday:
buffalotracedistillery.com
 
2014-08-10 12:59:53 PM  

ginandbacon: cirby: ...and, of course, I misspelled it. \

Krolewska.

I'll have to see if I can find that. Rye vodkas are so clean and *warm* somehow.


Sobieski from Poland is my favorite. Also rye.
 
2014-08-10 01:06:04 PM  
Arthur Daniels Midland is the best American Vodka.

Seriously....95% of American vodkas start off as ethanol.
 
2014-08-10 01:12:04 PM  
They ban our food, We ignore their vodka. Seems fair.
 
2014-08-10 01:17:44 PM  

FlashHarry: we pick up french vodak from costco. it's pretty decent... and cheap. fark russia.


10 years ago you would have been boycotting France.
 
2014-08-10 01:28:52 PM  

TuteTibiImperes: cirby: Krolewska

ginandbacon:
I'll have to see if I can find that. Rye vodkas are so clean and *warm* somehow.

That's exactly the way to describe it. Wonderful flavor, and warm. Tasty as hell.

Huh, maybe I'll seek one out.  I've never been a vodka fan because I've never found it to taste like anything but alcohol.  I thought that the ideal for vodka was to have no taste, is that not correct?  If there are vodkas with actual flavor, maybe they're worth exploring.


It's typically 40% ethanol. At that concentration, without absurd levels of mixers, you're going to taste it. The flavor is slightly sweet, and is otherwise predominated by whatever impurities/congeners/whatever you want to call them might be present is miniscule amounts. Those impurities are what make the difference between the lower and higher quality vodkas, since otherwise in theory they only contain 40% ethanol and 60% water. Some of those "impurities" actually add subtle and beneficial flavor. Others are horrid-tasting byproducts of fermentation, or in the worst distilleries, contamination added during processing.

Long story short: in the cheapest vodkas you will mostly taste burning, unless you're a dedicated drinker of neat spirits. In better vodkas, especially when chilled, it is possible to taste a variety of interesting flavors, but it's almost always more subtle than other spirits.

For the flavor alone I recommend small sips of freezer-chilled vodka, with distilled room temperature water (tap water normally has chemicals that while harmless will affect taste) to sip alternately to warm the tongue and wash away lingering flavors. Or try it warm if you want.

Drinking vodka can help release and amplify food flavors that you might not taste otherwise, so it can be fun to try with appetizers/finger food. Start chewing a small mouthful and have a small sip of vodka. You might be surprised. It's arguably one of the keys to eating zakuski, and is the principle behind vodka sauce, as well as most recipes that use alcohol of some kind. The difference with vodka is that there are few if any other flavors to interfere with the flavor of the food.
 
2014-08-10 01:37:03 PM  
My vodka of choice is Finlandia

www.thegrocerygirls.com
 
2014-08-10 01:46:04 PM  
FYI

If you're ever in a bar and think it might be a gay bar, but you're not sure, count the different kinds of vodka behind the bar.  If it's 35 or higher, it's probably a gay bar.
 
2014-08-10 02:06:08 PM  

ginandbacon: cirby: ...and, of course, I misspelled it. \

Krolewska.

I'll have to see if I can find that. Rye vodkas are so clean and *warm* somehow.


If you like a clean-tasting vodka, give Reyka a try. Best damn vodka I've ever had, and it won't break the bank either.
 
2014-08-10 02:15:55 PM  

Sid_6.7: It's typically 40% ethanol.


That's basically all spirits.

kevinfra: FYI

If you're ever in a bar and think it might be a gay bar, but you're not sure, count the different kinds of vodka behind the bar.  If it's 35 or higher, it's probably a gay bar.


I just count the number of men who are interested in me. If it's 35 or higher, I'm not in a gay bar.
 
2014-08-10 02:25:05 PM  
"Knowing a lot about vodka means you're a club douche"  http://youtu.be/rtVrS1bNDns
 
2014-08-10 02:32:59 PM  
I have yet to get up the nerve and try this:

liquor.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2014-08-10 02:38:39 PM  

skinbubble: I have yet to get up the nerve and try this:

[liquor.s3.amazonaws.com image 500x500]


I just ate about a pound of smoked salmon for breakfast, although I love smoked salmon, I doubt I would want to drink anything that tasted like it.
 
2014-08-10 02:43:21 PM  
I don't buy Russian vodka because I don't like how Vladimir Putin personally spits in every bottle. I find that to be a little distasteful.
 
2014-08-10 02:45:42 PM  
I used to buy only Stoli. Who knows more about vodka than Russians?

I stopped after I considered the odds of Russian mobsters putting Stoli labels on wood alcohol.
 
2014-08-10 02:52:21 PM  
https://www.google.com/search?q=Wodka+ads&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&s a=X&ei=677nU53oEYr5yQTa1IGIBQ&ved=0CDIQ7Ak&biw=360&bih=592

Seems appropriate
 
2014-08-10 02:55:29 PM  
Wodka ads GIS Let's try this again. .
 
2014-08-10 03:03:30 PM  
And in response, Russians say, "Take a hike, Jackson!" to American food.
 
2014-08-10 03:23:49 PM  

Sid_6.7: The vodka market's biggest gains were made by Tito's, with volume sales growth of 68%

And they deserve it. Damn good vodka, and easily the best in its price range.

The only really good imports I can remember having were all non-Russian potato vodkas, Chopin for example.


I've been drinking Tito's quite a bit recently. It's not too shabby at all.
 
2014-08-10 04:07:46 PM  

ginandbacon: Sid_6.7: It's typically 40% ethanol.

That's basically all spirits.


No sh*t, Sherlock, really?!
 
2014-08-10 04:09:05 PM  

spawn73: 10 years ago you would have been boycotting France.


um, no. 10 years ago rightwing mouth breathers would have been boycotting france.
 
2014-08-10 04:15:12 PM  

FlashHarry: spawn73: 10 years ago you would have been boycotting France.

um, no. 10 years ago rightwing mouth breathers would have been boycotting france.


Well yeah. But I just assumed you were one for wanting to boycot Russia.

Which is kinda hard really, unless you eat a lot of caviar. What else do they really sell at a consumer level?
 
2014-08-10 04:18:24 PM  

Sid_6.7: ginandbacon: Sid_6.7: It's typically 40% ethanol.

That's basically all spirits.

No sh*t, Sherlock, really?!


I'm sorry, I must have missed your point.
 
2014-08-10 04:34:04 PM  

ginandbacon: Sid_6.7: ginandbacon: Sid_6.7: It's typically 40% ethanol.

That's basically all spirits.

No sh*t, Sherlock, really?!

I'm sorry, I must have missed your point.


Then I am sorry as well.
 
2014-08-10 04:40:10 PM  
Anything that has the word "flavored" is not vodka. It may be good drink, but it's not vodka.

Vodka is not supposed to be tasty, its quality is determined by how "easy" it goes, lack of any bad taste whatsoever and lack of headache the next day after you've drunk the whole bottle.

It does improve somewhat the taste of food, but it's accidental. I'm pretty sure there are other drinks that do it better.
 
2014-08-10 04:41:58 PM  

spawn73: What else do they really sell at a consumer level?


well, gas - if you're in europe? here in 'murka? not so much.
 
2014-08-10 05:01:34 PM  

Grahor: Anything that has the word "flavored" is not vodka. It may be good drink, but it's not vodka.


Right. It's flavored vodka. As in, vodka with an added flavor. You see, they take vodka and, then, they add some sort of flavor to it. I can slow down if this is too much information for you to take in all at once.
 
2014-08-10 05:05:27 PM  
And then it stops being a vodka. It becomes 40% ethanol drink with a flavor.

It's like making cola with salt instead of sugar. You may call it salty cola, but most people won't consider it cola.
 
2014-08-10 05:22:55 PM  

skinbubble: I have yet to get up the nerve and try this:

[liquor.s3.amazonaws.com image 500x500]


Just seeing that made me a little queasy.
 
2014-08-10 05:49:15 PM  
When I was in university I drank Russian Prince vodka:

www.bcliquorstores.com


I would have terrible hangovers the next day.  Just skullbreaking.  But I still drank the stuff because it was cheap and tasted fine the night before.

I'm an adult now ... I've moved on to delicious white rum:

media.cocktailia.com
 
2014-08-10 05:55:13 PM  

jaytkay: I used to buy only Stoli. Who knows more about vodka than Russians?

I stopped after I considered the odds of Russian mobsters putting Stoli labels on wood alcohol.



If you'd RTFA, you'd have learned that Stolichnaya is actually a Latvian, not Russian, brand.

Which is why I call bullshiat on the entire premise of this report.  For American consumers to be rejecting Russian vodkas, they would have to know which brands are actually of Russian provenance, and which ones are just a random word in Cyrillic characters on a bottle full of watered-down grain alcohol distilled in an ADM factory in, like, Indiana.
 
2014-08-10 05:57:44 PM  
 
2014-08-10 06:08:53 PM  
Russian vodkas don't have the clout or knowledge to market in the US.

For vodka I'd pick Belvedere or really Zubrowka.  fark Russia, go Polish.
 
2014-08-10 06:14:29 PM  

Grahor: And then it stops being a vodka. It becomes 40% ethanol drink with a flavor.

It's like making cola with salt instead of sugar. You may call it salty cola, but most people won't consider it cola.


*cough* Vanilla Coke *cough* *cough* Cherry Coke

Oh, sorry. I have a bit of the sniffles lately. What was it you were saying about how no one would consider a flavored cola a cola?
 
2014-08-10 06:28:54 PM  

jaytkay: I stopped after I considered the odds of Russian mobsters putting Stoli labels on wood alcohol.


poot_rootbeer: If you'd RTFA, you'd have learned that Stolichnaya is actually a Latvian, not Russian, brand.


I read TFA.

I'm not worried about genuine Stoli.
 
2014-08-10 08:02:37 PM  
Russian man happy...more for us!

cdn.firstwefeast.com
 
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