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(Marketwatch)   Obama: So who was the dumbass who decided to withdraw American troops from Iraq, anyway? Jesus, that guy must have been a complete moran   (blogs.marketwatch.com) divider line 373
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2014-08-09 08:28:48 PM
So Obama withdrew from Iraq following the date mandated by Bush himself who invaded under false pretenses in the first place and Obama's the asshole?
 
2014-08-09 08:29:10 PM
Silly headline. We accomplished the mission there 10 years ago
 
2014-08-09 08:35:26 PM
Part of being a leader is being able to make the hard decisions to know when a deadline needs to be broken. He did it for the employer mandate, and granted exemptions to thousands.

To read that he is blaming bush, well, he is a democrat and that's what democrats do.
 
2014-08-09 08:38:04 PM
I'll agree that it was an odd statement for him to make, he wasn't shy about saying it was a good idea for us to withdraw from Iraq.  I fully support that decision - we can't stay there forever, and whatever is happening now would have happened whenever we left.  Are we partially responsible for Iraqs problems?  Sure.  Does that mean that we have a duty to spend billions of dollars per year keeping thousands of troops around to keep a lid on things?  I don't think so.

Let the Iraqis figure things out for themselves.  If we need to step in occasionally for air strikes or food and medical aid, as we're doing now, we can do that, but let's keep our involvement limited.

We won the war within the first months, but we failed at building a stable state.  We need to just accept the fact that not every war we wage will end in a stable democracy for those we defeat.  We got Saddam, we destroyed the military infrastructure of the old regime, and we eliminated Iraq as a global threat.  Let's be satisfied with the good we did move on.
 
2014-08-09 08:40:39 PM
The only thing that would make some idiots happy is if Obama had said "F*ck you, we're staying whether you like it or not " to the Iraqi government

/and then they'd b*tch about that
 
2014-08-09 08:41:26 PM

SauronWasFramed: Part of being a leader is being able to make the hard decisions to know when a deadline needs to be broken. He did it for the employer mandate, and granted exemptions to thousands.

To read that he is blaming bush, well, he is a democrat and that's what democrats do.


Like knowing when to stop reading my pet goat when you're told the country is under attack?

Like knowing you should probably meet with the previous administration's anti terrorism czar instead of running around spreading a false story about them stealing ask the w keys?

Like knowing outing a cia agent is a bad idea?
 
2014-08-09 08:44:09 PM
Strictly speaking, subby, that dumbass is the American people. He ran on ending the Iraq War in 08, and we elected him in a landslide. 80%+ of the people wanted us out, if the polls are to be believed.

Poor military decision or no, you can hardly blame the man for doing exactly what he said he would do. Especially since we asked him to do it.
 
2014-08-09 08:47:50 PM
That "as if this was my decision" - representing a possible swipe at the Bush administration - was a jaw-dropping response to the admittedly small group of political reporters and conservative activists on Twitter who were following the address.

It's only jaw-dropping if you're a moron who never pokes their head out of the conservative echo chamber.
 
2014-08-09 08:47:52 PM
I don't remember hearing Bush make a statement to the effect that we were leaving a stable and secure Iraq behind.

Obama knew otherwise.
 
2014-08-09 08:55:15 PM
It may not have been your idea, Mr. President; but you sure did campaign on it...

/and Afghanistan in 2014
 
2014-08-09 08:58:31 PM
Over in 1
 
2014-08-09 08:58:34 PM

SauronWasFramed: Part of being a leader is being able to make the hard decisions to know when a deadline needs to be broken. He did it for the employer mandate, and granted exemptions to thousands.

To read that he is blaming bush, well, he is a democrat and that's what democrats do.


Can someone translate that for me?
 
2014-08-09 08:58:42 PM

whistleridge: Strictly speaking, subby, that dumbass is the American people. He ran on ending the Iraq War in 08, and we elected him in a landslide. 80%+ of the people wanted us out, if the polls are to be believed.

Poor military decision or no, you can hardly blame the man for doing exactly what he said he would do. Especially since we asked him to do it.


I blame Presidents Kennedy and Johnson.

/Vietnam Syndrome is a biatch
 
2014-08-09 08:59:33 PM
Yes.  I just did a "but but but Kennedy!"

/now back to my beer
 
2014-08-09 09:01:39 PM

Mugato: SauronWasFramed: Part of being a leader is being able to make the hard decisions to know when a deadline needs to be broken. He did it for the employer mandate, and granted exemptions to thousands.

To read that he is blaming bush, well, he is a democrat and that's what democrats do.

Can someone translate that for me?


It's not fair to blame the people who are actually responsible.
 
2014-08-09 09:03:15 PM

fusillade762: Mugato: SauronWasFramed: Part of being a leader is being able to make the hard decisions to know when a deadline needs to be broken. He did it for the employer mandate, and granted exemptions to thousands.

To read that he is blaming bush, well, he is a democrat and that's what democrats do.

Can someone translate that for me?

It's not fair to blame the people who are actually responsible.


Thank you. My Babel Fish killed itself reading that so I didn't get it.
 
2014-08-09 09:06:36 PM
While it's certainly the case that the Iraqi government didn't make it easy to sign a so-called status-of-forces agreement to keep U.S. troops there, Obama actively sought to withdraw troops - and, more to the point, he campaigned on it.

That still doesn't mean that the agreement to get out of Iraq was made by Obama.

The reason the SOF agreement was not merely not easy but IMPOSSIBLE to get signed had to do with the way Bush-instigated mercenaries were killing, torturing and raping their way across the country without any real consequences.

It's almost as if RW pundits had been asleep from 2003 to 2008.

Getting out of Iraq after many years of pouring blood and treasure into the sand there was the right thing to do.

Getting into Iraq in the first place was always the wrong thing to do.

Drawing a line around the Kurds, the Shia and the Sunnis who hated each other in this region and saying "LOL U a Country!" at the end of the world war was also pretty dumb in retrospect.
 
2014-08-09 09:11:23 PM
It's a Democracy, Subby. Americans wanted us out of there, and we sure as fark do not want to go back there.

The only alternative is to occupy Iraq for the rest of eternity.
 
2014-08-09 09:24:53 PM

Mugato: SauronWasFramed: Part of being a leader is being able to make the hard decisions to know when a deadline needs to be broken. He did it for the employer mandate, and granted exemptions to thousands.

To read that he is blaming bush, well, he is a democrat and that's what democrats do.

Can someone translate that for me?


Let's allow House Speaker John Boehner to translate: "There are numerous steps the president can and should be taking right now, without the need for congressional action, ..."
 
2014-08-09 09:25:46 PM

shower_in_my_socks: It's a Democracy, Subby. Americans wanted us out of there, and we sure as fark do not want to go back there.

The only alternative is to occupy Iraq for the rest of eternity.


And, ironically enough, Saddam Hussein of all people was doing a pretty good job of that.
 
2014-08-09 09:35:14 PM
Wow ...
 
2014-08-09 09:50:14 PM

SauronWasFramed: Part of being a leader is being able to make the hard decisions to know when a deadline needs to be broken.


Post invasion, Iraq has been a sovereign nation since 2004, although it took several more years for all of the provinces to fall into place. Once the previous US administration handed control of the country over to the new Iraqi government, the occupation officially ended. From that point on, we only stayed there so long as the Iraqis agreed to a security agreement. If they wanted us out, then that's the end of it. They were no longer a conquered nation that had to put up with an occupying military whether they liked it or not.

What part of that do you not understand?
 
2014-08-09 09:58:41 PM

SurfaceTension: shower_in_my_socks: It's a Democracy, Subby. Americans wanted us out of there, and we sure as fark do not want to go back there.

The only alternative is to occupy Iraq for the rest of eternity.

And, ironically enough, Saddam Hussein of all people was doing a pretty good job of that.


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2014-08-09 10:16:09 PM
If these Republitards want to be in a perpetual state of war, so be it. Right after they enlist themselves , their kids, bring back the draft, and raise taxes to pay for it.
 
2014-08-09 10:22:59 PM
Let's call this something else other than the occupation of Iraq. It would make everyone feel better. Let's call it "assistance to an ally". Can we call Iraq an ally?
 
2014-08-09 10:43:52 PM
I blame the Supreme Court. We wouldn't be in this mess if they'd just given the election to McCain.
 
2014-08-09 10:44:51 PM

Mugato: SauronWasFramed: Part of being a leader is being able to make the hard decisions to know when a deadline needs to be broken. He did it for the employer mandate, and granted exemptions to thousands.

To read that he is blaming bush, well, he is a democrat and that's what democrats do.

Can someone translate that for me?


Translation:  I live under a bridge and extort money from those who wish to use it.
 
2014-08-09 10:45:16 PM
Oh sure NOW you need permission? Wag that pen Obummer.
 
2014-08-09 10:48:04 PM

SauronWasFramed: Part of being a leader is being able to make the hard decisions to know when a deadline needs to be broken. He did it for the employer mandate, and granted exemptions to thousands.

To read that he is blaming bush, well, he is a democrat and that's what democrats do.


I'm gonna first personally attack you: You are a goddamn fool and you should, when you get the chance, take a knee and punch yourself in the face. Idiot.

Second:  Are you seriously comparing health insurance exemptions to sending my ass off to war in the sandbox?!?! You seriously haven't a well-thought out idea in your little brain, Jackass..

Please. Kindly. With a cherry on top.  Shut the fark up.
 
2014-08-09 10:49:16 PM
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What a dumbass may look like.
 
2014-08-09 10:51:56 PM
 
2014-08-09 10:52:57 PM

Mugato: So Obama withdrew from Iraq following the date mandated by Bush himself who invaded under false pretenses in the first place and Obama's the asshole?


Since when has Obama bowed to any "mandate" from Bush he disagreed with?

You can't be the President AND use the excuse "I was only following orders...."
 
2014-08-09 10:54:34 PM
Wow. Just wow.

Has he never heard of YouTube?
 
2014-08-09 10:55:24 PM

Mugato: So Obama withdrew from Iraq following the date mandated by Bush himself who invaded under false pretenses in the first place and Obama's the asshole?


Is it ok if I'm pissed at him for bothering to go back?
 
2014-08-09 10:56:45 PM

edmo: If these Republitards want to be in a perpetual state of war, so be it. Right after they enlist themselves , their kids, bring back the draft, and raise taxes to pay for it.


These damned Obama Republitards!
 
2014-08-09 10:56:57 PM
"You break it, you buy it"
 
2014-08-09 10:57:34 PM
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2014-08-09 10:58:49 PM

BravadoGT: Mugato: So Obama withdrew from Iraq following the date mandated by Bush himself who invaded under false pretenses in the first place and Obama's the asshole?

Since when has Obama bowed to any "mandate" from Bush he disagreed with?

You can't be the President AND use the excuse "I was only following orders...."


So we should've let our soldiers stay in Iraq and be tried under Iraqi law?
 
2014-08-09 10:59:06 PM

BravadoGT: Since when has Obama bowed to any "mandate" from Bush he disagreed with?

You can't be the President AND use the excuse "I was only following orders...."


Herp derp the Iraqis didn't want to change it either.  I'm sure you already know that though.
 
2014-08-09 10:59:29 PM

BravadoGT: Mugato: So Obama withdrew from Iraq following the date mandated by Bush himself who invaded under false pretenses in the first place and Obama's the asshole?

Since when has Obama bowed to any "mandate" from Bush he disagreed with?

You can't be the President AND use the excuse "I was only following orders...."


Yeah!  That dictator is keeping agreements the last president made?!  Impeach him now!!!!
 
2014-08-09 11:00:02 PM
Whatever happened to the "Mission Accomplished" banner? That thing's gonna be worth like a billion dollars on eBay. The government should auction it off to help pay for the coming war.
 
2014-08-09 11:00:10 PM

BravadoGT: Mugato: So Obama withdrew from Iraq following the date mandated by Bush himself who invaded under false pretenses in the first place and Obama's the asshole?

Since when has Obama bowed to any "mandate" from Bush he disagreed with?

You can't be the President AND use the excuse "I was only following orders...."



Can a gourmet use the excuse "I was only following hors d'oeuvres"?
 
2014-08-09 11:02:38 PM

Tymast: Yeah! That dictator is keeping agreements the last president made?! Impeach him now!!!!


A true leader would just ignore any laws and lawsuits currently pending against him for general fecklessness and lawlessness.
 
2014-08-09 11:03:04 PM

BravadoGT: You can't be the President AND use the excuse "I was only following orders...."


No, but you can be the president of one country and realize you don't make decisions for someone else's country.
 
2014-08-09 11:03:14 PM

ScreamingHangover: [blaming_carter.jpg]


Of course Reagan thought it was 1950 and he was just reading his lines, but hey...
 
2014-08-09 11:03:20 PM

SauronWasFramed: Part of being a leader is being able to make the hard decisions to know when a deadline needs to be broken. He did it for the employer mandate, and granted exemptions to thousands.

To read that he is blaming bush, well, he is a democrat and that's what democrats do.


Here's the thing. We were in Iraq until the end of December 2011 with a SOFA that allowed our military to be present and largely immune to Iraqi law. As soon as that SOFA expired, our military personnel were immediately in danger of being arrested for violating Iraqi law. The Iraqi government didn't want to extend that legal immunity beyond what Bush had negotiated. Do you think we should have left our uniformed personnel in the country when they, at any time, could be thrown in jail just for the high crime of being in the country?
 
2014-08-09 11:04:24 PM

ScreamingHangover: [scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net image 526x393]


True, Ronald Reagan would've just sold arms to one enemy in order to fund an ally.
 
2014-08-09 11:04:27 PM

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Jimmy Carter didn't set the world on fire and take an eight year sh*t on everything, morons.
 
2014-08-09 11:06:12 PM

Snarfangel: BravadoGT: Mugato: So Obama withdrew from Iraq following the date mandated by Bush himself who invaded under false pretenses in the first place and Obama's the asshole?

Since when has Obama bowed to any "mandate" from Bush he disagreed with?

You can't be the President AND use the excuse "I was only following orders...."


Can a gourmet use the excuse "I was only following hors d'oeuvres"?


Can Robert Plant follow the girl into Mordor?
 
2014-08-09 11:07:44 PM

ScreamingHangover: [scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net image 526x393]


Reagan's SOTU address 3 years into his presidency:

"The problems we inherited were far worse than most inside and out of government had expected; the recession was deeper than most inside and out of government had predicted. Curing those problems has taken more time and a higher toll than any of us wanted."

A year earlier, he'd said:

"To understand the State of the Union, we must look not only at where we are and where we're going but where we've been. The situation at this time last year was truly ominous."
 
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