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(Yahoo)   Some three letter agency tries to remove parts of public court transcript in a lawsuit over deleting evidence. Obvious tag looks incredulously at Asinine tag after it tries to redact itself from public view   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 21
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2014-08-10 02:15:02 AM
Is it PBS? If you ask me, that Bert is one suspicious looking s.o.b. We should cut his funding. And what's the deal with the NEA. Jesus weeps because some of the art they fund makes my pants fit funny.
 
2014-08-10 02:42:20 AM

Notabunny: Is it PBS? If you ask me, that Bert is one suspicious looking s.o.b. We should cut his funding. And what's the deal with the NEA. Jesus weeps because some of the art they fund makes my pants fit funny.


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2014-08-10 03:00:07 AM
Disgusting.
 
2014-08-10 03:06:21 AM
*eyeroll*
*groan*
*headdesk*

This is what's going to happen, alphabet agencies, if you keep insisting that all your stuff is too seekrit for anyone to look at.

We the public acknowledge that there are things that need to be kept classified. Fine. We get that. That's why its in your best interests to cooperate with the other side BEFORE trial, so that all that can be looked at by the judge and the other attorneys in discovery and in pretrial conference and case management, they can see what you've got, the judge can rule on it, and everything can be under seal of privilege and confidentiality. Judges are allowed to do that; ever since US v. Nixon, the judge has had great discretion to review material in camera and determine if it would jeopardize national security.

If you keep it all seekrit until AFTER the trial starts, then it is by definition not seekrit and not classified any more. And you look twice as bad as before by prowling through the transcripts for more stuff to classify.

What the F*CK is wrong with you all?
 
2014-08-10 03:37:33 AM
Dear DIRNSA,

You are, in my considered opinion, putrid, oath-breaking lower-than-whale-dung toxic slime. Department of Defense agencies have abso-farking-lutely no business violating the Amendment IV rights of US persons. Cease, desist, cut it out, and stop, already.

Your actions have permanently tarnished the honor of all who have worn the uniform of the United States and kept their oaths to support and defend the Constitution of the United States: Use the process you always had and get a martherfarking warrant. We both know that Congress did not need to modify FISA in any way for you to execute your duties after the September 11, 2001 attacks.

Given what has been revealed about your activities since 2001, you, your predecessors, and most of your senior managers should be using plastic spoons to turn boulders into sand in Kansas.

This attempt at retroactive alteration of the public record is the very essence of totalitarian Orwellian manipulation of the public you purportedly serve. You are Napoleon the pig from Animal Farm.

Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Fark yourself with a rusty chainsaw,
Sideways

-demaL-demaL-yeH
 
2014-08-10 03:49:55 AM
Hey, NSA.  Do you guys ever get tired of your super secret, members only tree house games and peering through the keyhole to watch people pee?  I mean, do you ever just drop the Agent Smith crap, look in the mirror and ask "THIS is what I'm doing with my life?"?
 
2014-08-10 04:24:59 AM
The u.s. is like any run-of-the-mill totalitarian state, unworthy of any moral standing on ANYTHING.  Not free, not special, not a democracy, not really a republic. Not under the rule of constitutional law, no real separation of powers, and the only truth to the nation is that it is a farking LIE and promotes its own mythology as truth.
 
2014-08-10 04:34:08 AM
[after being told "No you can't keep the redaction secret and that everything pertaining their attempts to do so will be made public knowledge"]
After reviewing the transcript, the government concluded it had not accidentally revealed such information, and withdrew its request.


Bit funny.

Previously in the same case White was forced to order NSA to stop deleting evidence relevant to the case on three separate occasions, after an accidental DOJ email revealed to the EFF that the government had never complied.

After the third court order the NSA argued against the judge's order, and said that not only were its systems too complicated to stop the deletion, forcing the agency to do so would have a detrimental effect on national security.


This bit though surprised me a bit since I would thought at that point they'd be saying that stopping them would cause a few 9/11's to happen.
 
2014-08-10 04:36:44 AM

JerkyMeat: The u.s. is like any run-of-the-mill totalitarian state, unworthy of any moral standing on ANYTHING.  Not free, not special, not a democracy, not really a republic. Not under the rule of constitutional law, no real separation of powers, and the only truth to the nation is that it is a farking LIE and promotes its own mythology as truth.


Well, yeah, but all the cool kids were doing it.
 
2014-08-10 05:43:02 AM
True, which tag?
 
2014-08-10 07:28:51 AM
The NSA should ask the democrats at the IRS how to cover up criminal behavior. Obviously the NSA has never heard of the, hard drive crashed not a smidgen of corruption here move along citizen, tactic.
 
2014-08-10 07:45:05 AM

Launch Code: The NSA should ask the democrats at the IRS


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2014-08-10 09:41:44 AM
Demiglace:

After the third court order the NSA argued against the judge's order, and said that not only were its systems too complicated to stop the deletion, forcing the agency to do so would have a detrimental effect on national security.

This bit though surprised me a bit since I would thought at that point they'd be saying that stopping them would cause a few 9/11's to happen.


The mushroom cloud is on your hands, judge.
 
2014-08-10 09:41:46 AM
It's what you'd expect a spy agency to do when it's doing it's job. You could sue them for doing their job or for not doing their job. I'd prefer the NSA do it's job.

Schooling them on the Bill of Rights is someone else's job. Other agencies, not so much.

Make no mistake, any IRS employee who just happens to look up a celebrity's record, just out of curiousity, is an ex-IRS agent very fast. Probably goes down to even lots of state and local government agencies.

There is one legitimate exception. Database programmers need to test with live data at some point, because databases have unique behaviours that aren't apparent until you do, and any fake made up data will hide real problems. NSA, I believe, has lots of databases.


Privatising the NSA would be expensive. No telling how must those 1.2B login passwords the Russians acquired would cost. Then there's the telemarketers call lists, the prison credit card identity theft network. All this adds up. And there are probably holes.
 
2014-08-10 10:03:33 AM

Launch Code: The NSA should ask the democrats at the IRS how to cover up criminal behavior. Obviously the NSA has never heard of the, hard drive crashed not a smidgen of corruption here move along citizen, tactic.


0.025/10

The 0.025 is just in case you are a Sovereign Citizen loon.
 
2014-08-10 10:52:51 AM

Launch Code: The NSA should ask the democrats at the IRS how to cover up criminal behavior. Obviously the NSA has never heard of the, hard drive crashed not a smidgen of corruption here move along citizen, tactic.


Effing A

/somebody slap that stupid black lab
 
2014-08-10 10:56:22 AM
So, everybody who works for the IRS is a democrat, and therefore a sekrit mooslimb libtard?  I should get out more.
 
2014-08-10 11:29:12 AM
Thanks, Dick Cheney, for our liberty- and freedom-robbing secrecy apparatus. We feel well protect from our enemies, but not from you.
 
2014-08-10 12:25:21 PM
Just make the evidence of our illegal activity secret. Brilliant!
 
2014-08-11 12:05:21 AM
I'm sorry, was it the:

A) IRS deleting evidence?
B) EPA deleting evidence?
C) All of them deleting evidence?
D) NSA deleting evidence?

I keep losing track.
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2014-08-11 06:48:18 AM

dbrunker: I'm sorry, was it the:

A) IRS deleting evidence?
B) EPA deleting evidence?
C) All of them deleting evidence?
D) NSA deleting evidence?


Yes.  For ages. Slimy, greedy, disingenuous weasels, the lot of them.  And for a lot longer than any given administration's tenure.
 
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