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(Komo)   The Seattle Seahawks have won one Superb Owl, so it's only natural to call them a dynasty   (komonews.com) divider line 38
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2014-08-09 02:04:08 PM  
I realize no one around here ever RTFA, but I always sort of hope that submitters, at least, would do so. Alas.
 
2014-08-09 02:31:26 PM  

BMulligan: I realize no one around here ever RTFA, but I always sort of hope that submitters, at least, would do so. Alas.


I think submitters RTFA, they just don't care. Nor moderators.
 
2014-08-09 04:58:57 PM  
You very seldom see the word "alas" anymore outside of bad poems.
 
2014-08-09 05:06:44 PM  

mikaloyd: You very seldom see the word "alas" anymore outside of bad poems.


I know. Alas.
 
2014-08-09 05:23:42 PM  
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Alas....alas....alas.....alas....Steve....alas....alas.....
 
2014-08-09 05:34:38 PM  
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2014-08-09 05:42:27 PM  
While looking for alas seattle pics I did find one thing from the Seattle worlds fair.  Instead of calling the carnival and rides part the midway Seattle called it the GAYWAY and used what would become the Seahawks colors to do so.

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2014-08-09 06:25:44 PM  

mikaloyd: While looking for alas seattle pics I did find one thing from the Seattle worlds fair.  Instead of calling the carnival and rides part the midway Seattle called it the GAYWAY and used what would become the Seahawks colors to do so.

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I think they call that Capitol Hill now.
 
2014-08-09 06:40:24 PM  
The Seattle Seahawks have won one Superb Owl, so it's only natural to call them a dynasty

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2014-08-09 06:42:26 PM  
Could they be one? Yes.

Looking at their FA list after this season, and assuming they do well in 2014..... Not likely.
 
2014-08-09 06:46:40 PM  
It's the same article written about the preceding year's champion that they write every year. Except this year the defending champion actually has a lot of young talent and spent the entire year being one of the league's best teams.
 
2014-08-09 06:47:41 PM  
Hawks could repeat, although I think the window closes after this year with Wilson still being cheap for only one more season. It's also not a stretch to think that "The Vaunted NFC West" will beat the living crap out of each other to the point where another team could slip in to next year's SB. Saints come to mind.
 
2014-08-09 08:04:53 PM  

iron_city_ap: Could they be one? Yes.

Looking at their FA list after this season, and assuming they do well in 2014..... Not likely.


I don't see anything on there too alarming, with Avril, Wright, and Wilson.  They'll lock Wilson up, for sure, but everyone I see on their FA lists already have people waiting in the wings.  Avril will be replaced by Marsh, and Wright will be replaced by any of the sixty gazillion LBs they have right now, either Coyle or Pierre-Louis.
 
2014-08-09 09:03:38 PM  
If there wasn't such an arms race going on in the NFC West, the odds would be so much better for a Hawks repeat. As it is, Seattle, San Fran, and Arizona are going to be beating the tar out of each other, enabling either the Saints, Panthers, Eagles or [Redacted] to take charge and go on to the Superb Owl.While the Hawks risk losing players to FA every year, the program that Carroll has built worked this last year with the whole plugging in the next man on the depth chart. That's just the way things have been treated in Seattle.
 
2014-08-09 09:12:46 PM  
I think a lot depends on the division, the Patriots owe much of their "dynasty" to playing the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins twice every year.  Seattle is in probably the toughest division in football right now.
 
2014-08-09 09:17:12 PM  
Sorry, Seattle, this is Dallas' year to win it all.


I want to believe
 
2014-08-09 09:17:48 PM  
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2014-08-09 09:37:12 PM  

RINO: Sorry, Seattle, this is Dallas' year to win it all.


I want to believe


Given that division is fairly weak, they have a shot at taking the top spot. But I'm fairly sure the Iggles will.

8-8 isn't good enough for a wildcard any more, the NFC is fairly topheavy. Ask the Cards, who went 10-6 and missed the playoffs.
 
2014-08-09 09:48:10 PM  

xaks: RINO: Sorry, Seattle, this is Dallas' year to win it all.


I want to believe

Given that division is fairly weak, they have a shot at taking the top spot. But I'm fairly sure the Iggles will.

8-8 isn't good enough for a wildcard any more, the NFC is fairly topheavy. Ask the Cards, who went 10-6 and missed the playoffs.


Didn't they add another wild card spot??
 
2014-08-09 09:54:47 PM  
Not that I'm aware of.
 
2014-08-09 10:15:33 PM  

TheOther: xaks: RINO: Sorry, Seattle, this is Dallas' year to win it all.


I want to believe

Given that division is fairly weak, they have a shot at taking the top spot. But I'm fairly sure the Iggles will.

8-8 isn't good enough for a wildcard any more, the NFC is fairly topheavy. Ask the Cards, who went 10-6 and missed the playoffs.

Didn't they add another wild card spot??


They are talking about it but haven't voted yet. I think the NFLPA will demand on less pre-season while the commish will push for either the extra playoff game or extend the season by a week (while playing games every day because....well because $$$$).

At the earliest, it would start at the end of the 2015 season. Naturally Jerry Jones has been very vocal about it because it's an easier way to making the playoffs than say...building a good team.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10834156/nfl-plans-look-expanding- pl ayoffs-longer-extra-points
 
2014-08-09 10:19:33 PM  

harleyquinnical: If there wasn't such an arms race going on in the NFC West, the odds would be so much better for a Hawks repeat. As it is, Seattle, San Fran, and Arizona are going to be beating the tar out of each other, enabling either the Saints, Panthers, Eagles or [Redacted] to take charge and go on to the Superb Owl.While the Hawks risk losing players to FA every year, the program that Carroll has built worked this last year with the whole plugging in the next man on the depth chart. That's just the way things have been treated in Seattle.


Hey you forgot about the Rams. We might have a shot.

/who am I kidding...
 
2014-08-09 10:23:24 PM  

Mrtraveler01: harleyquinnical: If there wasn't such an arms race going on in the NFC West, the odds would be so much better for a Hawks repeat. As it is, Seattle, San Fran, and Arizona are going to be beating the tar out of each other, enabling either the Saints, Panthers, Eagles or [Redacted] to take charge and go on to the Superb Owl.While the Hawks risk losing players to FA every year, the program that Carroll has built worked this last year with the whole plugging in the next man on the depth chart. That's just the way things have been treated in Seattle.

Hey you forgot about the Rams. We might have a shot.

/who am I kidding...


Nobody.

The Rams D is legit. If they get an offense and start putting up points, the rest of the league needs to take notice.
 
2014-08-09 10:27:24 PM  

isthisme: TheOther: xaks: RINO: Sorry, Seattle, this is Dallas' year to win it all.


I want to believe

Given that division is fairly weak, they have a shot at taking the top spot. But I'm fairly sure the Iggles will.

8-8 isn't good enough for a wildcard any more, the NFC is fairly topheavy. Ask the Cards, who went 10-6 and missed the playoffs.

Didn't they add another wild card spot??

They are talking about it but haven't voted yet. I think the NFLPA will demand on less pre-season while the commish will push for either the extra playoff game or extend the season by a week (while playing games every day because....well because $$$$).

At the earliest, it would start at the end of the 2015 season. Naturally Jerry Jones has been very vocal about it because it's an easier way to making the playoffs than say...building a good team.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10834156/nfl-plans-look-expanding- pl ayoffs-longer-extra-points


As much as more football is MORE FOOTBALL!!!, I don't particularly want to see an 82 Cowboys team get gobsmacked in an all-wildcard round.  It's hard enough watching the regular season version get drilled week after week.

Since additional games are going to mean additional injuries, I think the NFLPA might get better traction by demanding expansion of the rosters to 55-60 players.  Additional jobs = happier union members.
 
2014-08-09 10:31:16 PM  

xaks: Mrtraveler01: harleyquinnical: If there wasn't such an arms race going on in the NFC West, the odds would be so much better for a Hawks repeat. As it is, Seattle, San Fran, and Arizona are going to be beating the tar out of each other, enabling either the Saints, Panthers, Eagles or [Redacted] to take charge and go on to the Superb Owl.While the Hawks risk losing players to FA every year, the program that Carroll has built worked this last year with the whole plugging in the next man on the depth chart. That's just the way things have been treated in Seattle.

Hey you forgot about the Rams. We might have a shot.

/who am I kidding...

Nobody.

The Rams D is legit. If they get an offense and start putting up points, the rest of the league needs to take notice.


DeMarco Murray says, " *snicker* ."

Seriously, what the hell happened there?
 
2014-08-09 10:41:41 PM  

TheOther: isthisme: TheOther: xaks: RINO: Sorry, Seattle, this is Dallas' year to win it all.


I want to believe

Given that division is fairly weak, they have a shot at taking the top spot. But I'm fairly sure the Iggles will.

8-8 isn't good enough for a wildcard any more, the NFC is fairly topheavy. Ask the Cards, who went 10-6 and missed the playoffs.

Didn't they add another wild card spot??

They are talking about it but haven't voted yet. I think the NFLPA will demand on less pre-season while the commish will push for either the extra playoff game or extend the season by a week (while playing games every day because....well because $$$$).

At the earliest, it would start at the end of the 2015 season. Naturally Jerry Jones has been very vocal about it because it's an easier way to making the playoffs than say...building a good team.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10834156/nfl-plans-look-expanding- pl ayoffs-longer-extra-points

As much as more football is MORE FOOTBALL!!!, I don't particularly want to see an 82 Cowboys team get gobsmacked in an all-wildcard round.  It's hard enough watching the regular season version get drilled week after week.

Since additional games are going to mean additional injuries, I think the NFLPA might get better traction by demanding expansion of the rosters to 55-60 players.  Additional jobs = happier union members.


You know, I was thinking the same thing about expanding the rosters. I think one way around that would be expand the practice squad and remove some of the limitations.

For example, expand the squad to 11 (not mandatory so cheap owners can be cheap). Those players only count against the cap for games they play in while injured player's salaries are taken off that weeks cap roster. Sort of like the NHL. I don't know enough about NFL's cap rules so I don't know if it's week by week flexible or season capped.

Allow teams to practice squad any player no matter how long they have been in the league. I think there is a "years played" limit now. Make it so a team can protect a player the first 2 or 3 years in the league so other teams can't poach them unless they are waived.

If a player has 3+ years in the league then they can be poached at any moment.

That would help expand the roster without expanding it. Keep the cap the same. Stop teams from having to call players "out of retirement" because of lack of depth. Employ more players who are in shape and have knowledge of the playbook. Put a better product on the field.

Just a thought.
 
2014-08-09 11:05:08 PM  
Well this thread is boring, considering the headline might as well have said "summoning all sports tab trolls."
 
2014-08-09 11:13:49 PM  

isthisme: TheOther: isthisme: TheOther: xaks: RINO: Sorry, Seattle, this is Dallas' year to win it all.


I want to believe

Given that division is fairly weak, they have a shot at taking the top spot. But I'm fairly sure the Iggles will.

8-8 isn't good enough for a wildcard any more, the NFC is fairly topheavy. Ask the Cards, who went 10-6 and missed the playoffs.

Didn't they add another wild card spot??

They are talking about it but haven't voted yet. I think the NFLPA will demand on less pre-season while the commish will push for either the extra playoff game or extend the season by a week (while playing games every day because....well because $$$$).

At the earliest, it would start at the end of the 2015 season. Naturally Jerry Jones has been very vocal about it because it's an easier way to making the playoffs than say...building a good team.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10834156/nfl-plans-look-expanding- pl ayoffs-longer-extra-points

As much as more football is MORE FOOTBALL!!!, I don't particularly want to see an 82 Cowboys team get gobsmacked in an all-wildcard round.  It's hard enough watching the regular season version get drilled week after week.

Since additional games are going to mean additional injuries, I think the NFLPA might get better traction by demanding expansion of the rosters to 55-60 players.  Additional jobs = happier union members.

You know, I was thinking the same thing about expanding the rosters. I think one way around that would be expand the practice squad and remove some of the limitations.

For example, expand the squad to 11 (not mandatory so cheap owners can be cheap). Those players only count against the cap for games they play in while injured player's salaries are taken off that weeks cap roster. Sort of like the NHL. I don't know enough about NFL's cap rules so I don't know if it's week by week flexible or season capped.

Allow teams to practice squad any player no matter how long they have been in the league. I think there i ...


I don't think the NFLPA should settle for just some part-time positions and internships.  TV revenue is going up, additional games mean additional revenue and the cap should expand.  Some combination of rostered players and practice squad would be reasonable.  58 on the regular roster would be a huge win, 56 is probably a more realistic goal and 55 would be acceptable.
 
2014-08-09 11:47:27 PM  

xaks: Mrtraveler01: harleyquinnical: If there wasn't such an arms race going on in the NFC West, the odds would be so much better for a Hawks repeat. As it is, Seattle, San Fran, and Arizona are going to be beating the tar out of each other, enabling either the Saints, Panthers, Eagles or [Redacted] to take charge and go on to the Superb Owl.While the Hawks risk losing players to FA every year, the program that Carroll has built worked this last year with the whole plugging in the next man on the depth chart. That's just the way things have been treated in Seattle.

Hey you forgot about the Rams. We might have a shot.

/who am I kidding...

Nobody.

The Rams D is legit. If they get an offense and start putting up points, the rest of the league needs to take notice.


True.  If at week 11 it looks like 3 of the 4 NFC West teams can make the playoffs, impossible to tell which ones, then I will give the Rams due credit.
 
2014-08-10 12:12:36 AM  

TheOther: isthisme: TheOther: isthisme: TheOther: xaks: RINO: Sorry, Seattle, this is Dallas' year to win it all.


I want to believe

Given that division is fairly weak, they have a shot at taking the top spot. But I'm fairly sure the Iggles will.

8-8 isn't good enough for a wildcard any more, the NFC is fairly topheavy. Ask the Cards, who went 10-6 and missed the playoffs.

Didn't they add another wild card spot??

They are talking about it but haven't voted yet. I think the NFLPA will demand on less pre-season while the commish will push for either the extra playoff game or extend the season by a week (while playing games every day because....well because $$$$).

At the earliest, it would start at the end of the 2015 season. Naturally Jerry Jones has been very vocal about it because it's an easier way to making the playoffs than say...building a good team.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10834156/nfl-plans-look-expanding- pl ayoffs-longer-extra-points

As much as more football is MORE FOOTBALL!!!, I don't particularly want to see an 82 Cowboys team get gobsmacked in an all-wildcard round.  It's hard enough watching the regular season version get drilled week after week.

Since additional games are going to mean additional injuries, I think the NFLPA might get better traction by demanding expansion of the rosters to 55-60 players.  Additional jobs = happier union members.

You know, I was thinking the same thing about expanding the rosters. I think one way around that would be expand the practice squad and remove some of the limitations.

For example, expand the squad to 11 (not mandatory so cheap owners can be cheap). Those players only count against the cap for games they play in while injured player's salaries are taken off that weeks cap roster. Sort of like the NHL. I don't know enough about NFL's cap rules so I don't know if it's week by week flexible or season capped.

Allow teams to practice squad any player no matter how long they have been in the league. I thi ...


I agree but I don't think the owners are interested in the cap going up. They aren't that responsible. The higher tiered players are going to demand more of that cap. For example, if they raise the roster limit by 10 and the cap by 20% to pay for it, then QB's are going to demand $25 million a year as opposed to the $20 they are shooting for now.

We've seen it in every sport, the owners need to be protected from themselves. Right now, they will gladly pay a QB $12-18 million while skimming on O'line, RB, WR, etc.

To protect owners from themselves, there needs to be a tier program. Kind of like the rookie salary cap, hence the practice squad idea.

The players would agree because the difference is to be in the league with a shot a playing a real game while making good money/free healthcare or being out of the league because they've worn out the practice squad welcome and aren't good enough or shown enough to warrant a spot on the limited roster.

Maybe offer "two way" contracts? If they are on the practice squad then they would make $400K a year. For games they are activated in, they make a minimum of bonus of say $500K? Maybe offer pay increases for each year they are on a practice squad?

First year, $400K, Then say a $25K raise every year? After all, it only counts against the cap IF a player is activated onto the main roster.

There is no way most of them would make that type of money in the private world plus it keeps their shot at a payday alive. Some players don't "get it", either maturity wise or experience wise, until they've been in the league a couple years.

If I'm a fringe player, I would gladly take the couple of hundred grand salary + free healthcare with a shot at the big leagues for as long as possible.
 
2014-08-10 05:59:19 AM  
Not to get to analytical here - but - The AFC west sent three teams to the playoffs last year.  That was in part because they played the crap that is the NFC East.  This year the NFC West plays the AFC West so look for a downward spiral in the AFC West.  And The NFC West plays the NFC East so look for the niners to take the division.  But, the NFC East plays the AFC South so look for Philly to make a statement.  And ultimately - niners/Pats in the SB
 
2014-08-10 08:18:47 AM  
The only thing that will ever be a dynasty out of Seattle is Starbucks...
 
2014-08-10 08:47:55 AM  
Not a chance.  They're going to have to gut that team when it's time to pay Wilson. Then they'll probably suck for years
 
2014-08-10 08:57:13 AM  

riverwalk barfly: Not to get to analytical here - but - The AFC west sent three teams to the playoffs last year.  That was in part because they played the crap that is the NFC East.  This year the NFC West plays the AFC West so look for a downward spiral in the AFC West.  And The NFC West plays the NFC East so look for the niners to take the division.  But, the NFC East plays the AFC South so look for Philly to make a statement.  And ultimately - niners/Pats in the SB


This. The SB champ will very likely be whomever wins NFC West. The rest of the divisions can then send their best nancy-boys against a team of battle-tested men -- and lose.

Prediction -- 9ers or Hawks FTW.

/West Coast = Best Coast!
 
2014-08-10 12:01:27 PM  

Wadded Beef: Hawks could repeat, although I think the window closes after this year with Wilson still being cheap for only one more season. It's also not a stretch to think that "The Vaunted NFC West" will beat the living crap out of each other to the point where another team could slip in to next year's SB. Saints come to mind.


Wilson will be cheap for two more years. They normally work deals that way. Not $850k cheap but it won't be straight to $20 mil.
 
2014-08-10 02:03:24 PM  

stappawho: Wadded Beef: Hawks could repeat, although I think the window closes after this year with Wilson still being cheap for only one more season. It's also not a stretch to think that "The Vaunted NFC West" will beat the living crap out of each other to the point where another team could slip in to next year's SB. Saints come to mind.

Wilson will be cheap for two more years. They normally work deals that way. Not $850k cheap but it won't be straight to $20 mil.


Yeah.  Because he's not a first rounder, I think he's locked up for this year and next, if he had been taken in the first they'd have another year on him.
 
2014-08-10 03:01:43 PM  
There is no quicker "kiss of death" for a championship team's chances than for them to be labeled
a "dynasty"....it's more like a "die, nasty".
 
2014-08-10 03:32:53 PM  

stappawho: Wadded Beef: Hawks could repeat, although I think the window closes after this year with Wilson still being cheap for only one more season. It's also not a stretch to think that "The Vaunted NFC West" will beat the living crap out of each other to the point where another team could slip in to next year's SB. Saints come to mind.

Wilson will be cheap for two more years. They normally work deals that way. Not $850k cheap but it won't be straight to $20 mil.


He's locked up for two years cheaply, but in all likelihood, they renegotiate as soon as they can (a year early). And no, the team isn't going to get gutted - Hell, name a "star" of theirs that they haven't already locked up. They have their secondary set for a few years. They have guys ready to replace at every single position (in theory, admittedly - we'll see if the replacements can actually step up). They've locked up every non-replaceable part of their team and they do a great job of replacing the replaceable guys.

It's not like it was at USC where the NCAA and voters were just waiting for a USC loss in order to prevent them from playing for/winning a title. Now they can lose a couple games a year and still play for titles.
 
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