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2014-08-09 01:21:55 PM  
I'm pretty sure we can just file them away as "slowest state".
 
2014-08-09 01:29:22 PM  
 Not fairing much better here in northeast Louisiana...

img.fark.net
 
2014-08-09 01:29:32 PM  
I think a better map would be a county-by-county map.  I don't think Kermit, Texas, would have the same speeds that the Houston/Dallas/San Antonio triangle enjoys.
 
2014-08-09 01:50:31 PM  
Road Runner Albany NY

www.speedtest.net
 
2014-08-09 01:55:41 PM  
Palmer, AK

www.speedtest.net
 
2014-08-09 04:04:48 PM  
So we're supposed to be surprised that the state with the least amount of infrastructure - has the least amount of infrastructure?
 
2014-08-09 04:13:12 PM  

Somaticasual: So we're supposed to be surprised that the state with the least amount of infrastructure - has the least amount of infrastructure?


Alaska.  Land of the true patriots against socialism and wealth redistrubution but every citizen gets a bribe stipend from the oil companies working there.  The land of milk dry counties and honey meth.
 
2014-08-09 04:24:40 PM  
Comcast country

www.speedtest.net
 
2014-08-09 04:36:58 PM  

Lord Jubjub: I think a better map would be a county-by-county map.  I don't think Kermit, Texas, would have the same speeds that the Houston/Dallas/San Antonio triangle enjoys.


"It's not easy being grain"?
 
2014-08-09 04:44:18 PM  
This is a win for bureaucracy and state-sponsored monopolies. I am so glad that we gave the ISP providers billions of dollars to build a speedy infrastructure, so that they could take that money and tell us to fark off.
 
2014-08-09 04:46:40 PM  
The state with the slowest internet speed in AOLaska

How many states are there in Alaska?

And since we're sharing, here's what I'm overpaying for:

www.speedtest.net
 
2014-08-09 05:05:18 PM  
Somaticasual:
So we're supposed to be surprised that the state with the least amount of infrastructure people per square mile - has the least amount of infrastructure?

FTFY.

When you have a high proportion of your population living miles away from ANYTHING, it's hard to run high-speed anything to them.

These are people who literally live in places where they have to fly to the nearest town to buy food...
 
2014-08-09 05:23:25 PM  
www.speedtest.net

Not bad for 20 euro over wireless.
 
2014-08-09 05:35:22 PM  

styckx: Comcast country


Thunderboy: And since we're sharing, here's what I'm overpaying for:


http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/usa (Click expand button or "include smaller ISPs")

You two have 31st and 43rd best ISPs in the US respectively.

/Works for #4
//Full net neutrality compliance here
///And a member of Netflix's open-connect program to boot
 
2014-08-09 05:44:20 PM  

Cpl.D: 43rd best ISP


I don't doubt it!
 
2014-08-09 05:55:03 PM  
Oh baby, I get alllll this blazing speed at just 4 miles from the center of the second largest city of Alaska.  At least it's uncapped so I can eventually download a small game.

www.speedtest.net
 
2014-08-09 06:30:16 PM  

gadian: Oh baby, I get alllll this blazing speed at just 4 miles from the center of the second largest city of Alaska.


Even at 1Mbps they're 46th/60.  To put that into perspective, as far as Netflix is concerned, you get a better Netflix streaming speed than Verizon's FIOS.  Who is ranked 54th.  So don't hang your head too low.
 
2014-08-09 06:30:44 PM  
www.speedtest.net Chicago
 
2014-08-09 06:39:06 PM  

Cpl.D: styckx: Comcast country

Thunderboy: And since we're sharing, here's what I'm overpaying for:

http://ispspeedindex.netflix.com/usa (Click expand button or "include smaller ISPs")

You two have 31st and 43rd best ISPs in the US respectively.

/Works for #4
//Full net neutrality compliance here
///And a member of Netflix's open-connect program to boot


I haven't had any issues with Netflix here since Comcast puts its deal through.. Even at peak hours.

I do have a bias though if living 16 miles from the Comcast Tower in Philadelphia..  It would be pretty bad of them to perform like piss in their home serving area.
 
2014-08-09 07:29:51 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: [www.speedtest.net image 300x135] Chicago


You guys can get my company.  RCN,  We don't cover the whole area yet, but check.  We can get you up to 75Mbps and this fall we're ratcheting that up to 110Mbps.

Hell, our negotiation team is working on getting us a direct BGP session to both Microsoft and Sony just so our console gamers can get better ping times.  They don't fark around over here!
 
2014-08-09 07:58:51 PM  
I remember the good old days where we got somewhere between 300 to 1.2k download speed and we liked it. Also paid at least $10 an hour for the privilege.
 
2014-08-09 08:00:34 PM  

Freschel: I remember the good old days where when we got somewhere between 300 to 1.2k download speed and we liked it. Also paid at least $10 an hour for the privilege.


I r smert.
 
2014-08-09 08:14:34 PM  
www.speedtest.net
Roanoke, VA
 
2014-08-09 09:11:22 PM  
They are tearing up the roads near my house, looks like they are putting in fiber.
Looks like I might switching to ATT.
 
2014-08-09 09:20:08 PM  

Freschel: I remember the good old days where we got somewhere between 300 to 1.2k download speed and we liked it. Also paid at least $10 an hour for the privilege.


I remember dialing a rotary phone and jamming the headset into a shapeless thing made outta bakelite just on the off chance the local BBS had some new porn on it.
 
2014-08-09 09:26:54 PM  
Since we've got the measuring tapes out:

www.speedtest.net

/It's technically 500 Mbit service, but part of the bandwidth is reserved for the phone and TV.
 
2014-08-09 09:38:22 PM  

gadian: Oh baby, I get alllll this blazing speed at just 4 miles from the center of the second largest city of Alaska.  At least it's uncapped so I can eventually download a small game.


You have disclosed the city you live in and the provider you are getting internet from. You are getting exactly what you are paying for, a 1 over 320 service.
 
2014-08-09 09:51:23 PM  

Cpl.D: gadian: Oh baby, I get alllll this blazing speed at just 4 miles from the center of the second largest city of Alaska.

Even at 1Mbps they're 46th/60.  To put that into perspective, as far as Netflix is concerned, you get a better Netflix streaming speed than Verizon's FIOS.  Who is ranked 54th.  So don't hang your head too low.


The problem in Alaska is the entire state population is about the population of a small city, but it is spread over, well, the state of Alaska. On top of that, several of the larger towns can also only be reached by undersea fiber, including the capital. Kodiak, I think less than 5k people, also runs on an expensive undersea fiber. Then, the people don't want to bunch up in Kodiak proper, the want to live 15kft from the co, then whine because they want more than 320 k down. You can either live in a cabin in the middle of nowhere, or have fast reliable internet. Not both.

We actually lost the fiber to juneau last month in the earthquake, an apprx 10km of fiber had to be replaced. Just to get the fiber repair vessel to leave the berth is a 500,000 bill. Gadian, find a way to get me your phone number associated with your dsl line and I will let you know what your line can achieve and give you a month trial at that speed.
 
2014-08-09 10:05:39 PM  
www.speedtest.net

// advertised as 30/5
 
2014-08-09 10:06:14 PM  

Modulistic: We actually lost the fiber to juneau last month in the earthquake, an apprx 10km of fiber had to be replaced. Just to get the fiber repair vessel to leave the berth is a 500,000 bill. Gadian, find a way to get me your phone number associated with your dsl line and I will let you know what your line can achieve and give you a month trial at that speed.


That's just good-karma-bait right there.
 
2014-08-09 10:06:50 PM  
img.fark.netMy

brother-in laws house is pretty good. Sapulpa, ok with cox cable


I live in mid-town Tulsa, but can only get ATT DSL at 6mbps, but I really only get 4.6mbps with .8 upload speed.


One of my best friends has hughs net and lives in Port Graham, AK, a short 60 mile plane ride south west of Homer, AK. And he get 2mbps but 900-1200 latency.  Playing wow together is sometimes a problem with that much latency


But. They are building   A new tower in his village. Not sure the details of what he's suppose to be getting, but  probably better than what I have in the middle of Tulsa.


img.fark.net
 
2014-08-09 10:07:20 PM  
www.speedtest.net
 
2014-08-09 10:21:25 PM  

JolobinSmokin: My

brother-in laws house is pretty good. Sapulpa, ok with cox cable


I live in mid-town Tulsa, but can only get ATT DSL at 6mbps, but I really only get 4.6mbps with .8 upload speed.


One of my best friends has hughs net and lives in Port Graham, AK, a short 60 mile plane ride south west of Homer, AK. And he get 2mbps but 900-1200 latency.  Playing wow together is sometimes a problem with that much latency


But. They are building   A new tower in his village. Not sure the details of what he's suppose to be getting, but  probably better than what I have in the middle of Tulsa.


That's for a microwave shot into port graham and nanwalek, I believe. Of course, it is being contested by the residents of port graham.
 
2014-08-09 10:26:49 PM  

Ravijn: [www.speedtest.net image 300x135]


Netflix ranks them at 54th outta 60.  They're just barely over Claro Puerto Rico.  Fiber optic might be fast, but it's dogballsweat if you don't have the bandwidth to back it.
 
2014-08-09 10:28:14 PM  

Modulistic: JolobinSmokin: My

brother-in laws house is pretty good. Sapulpa, ok with cox cable


I live in mid-town Tulsa, but can only get ATT DSL at 6mbps, but I really only get 4.6mbps with .8 upload speed.


One of my best friends has hughs net and lives in Port Graham, AK, a short 60 mile plane ride south west of Homer, AK. And he get 2mbps but 900-1200 latency.  Playing wow together is sometimes a problem with that much latency


But. They are building   A new tower in his village. Not sure the details of what he's suppose to be getting, but  probably better than what I have in the middle of Tulsa.

That's for a microwave shot into port graham and nanwalek, I believe. Of course, it is being contested by the residents of port graham.


Really? Wow, maybe that's why my buddies mother-in law ran a stealth campaign for chief a couple months ago in PG (she lost by 4 votes). I hadn't heard some of the residents were against it, but my buddy is pretty certain it's going to happen.

Any idea about speeds with that tech so I can pass along the info? Name of company doing it and stuff?

Thanks knowledgable Alaskan farker.
 
2014-08-09 10:29:47 PM  

Modulistic: JolobinSmokin: My

brother-in laws house is pretty good. Sapulpa, ok with cox cable


I live in mid-town Tulsa, but can only get ATT DSL at 6mbps, but I really only get 4.6mbps with .8 upload speed.


One of my best friends has hughs net and lives in Port Graham, AK, a short 60 mile plane ride south west of Homer, AK. And he get 2mbps but 900-1200 latency.  Playing wow together is sometimes a problem with that much latency


But. They are building   A new tower in his village. Not sure the details of what he's suppose to be getting, but  probably better than what I have in the middle of Tulsa.

That's for a microwave shot into port graham and nanwalek, I believe. Of course, it is being contested by the residents of port graham.


By the way, have you ever flown into nanwalek. That "airport" is an accident waiting to happen into a mountain, hard bank to the left or death.
 
2014-08-09 10:31:33 PM  

Cpl.D: Modulistic: We actually lost the fiber to juneau last month in the earthquake, an apprx 10km of fiber had to be replaced. Just to get the fiber repair vessel to leave the berth is a 500,000 bill. Gadian, find a way to get me your phone number associated with your dsl line and I will let you know what your line can achieve and give you a month trial at that speed.

That's just good-karma-bait right there.


We really do want to provide a good product. Because of the nature of dsl, each circuit is just that, a unique circuit with its own unique electrical properties and interference challenges. To get maximum performance out of each circuit requires 10 to 30 minutes of tinkering, often requiring the support of staff thousands of miles away who are overworked and honestly don't have time to give a shiat. The benefit is each circuit isn't shared on a broadcast segment like the cable co. So we can uncap the download limits. That's right. Uncapped internet in Alaska. The downside is most services get square peg into round role service profiles.
 
2014-08-09 10:32:48 PM  
Well yeah, when you have to get your internet by dogsled the latency is gonna suck.
 
2014-08-09 10:37:23 PM  

Modulistic: Cpl.D: Modulistic: We actually lost the fiber to juneau last month in the earthquake, an apprx 10km of fiber had to be replaced. Just to get the fiber repair vessel to leave the berth is a 500,000 bill. Gadian, find a way to get me your phone number associated with your dsl line and I will let you know what your line can achieve and give you a month trial at that speed.

That's just good-karma-bait right there.

We really do want to provide a good product. Because of the nature of dsl, each circuit is just that, a unique circuit with its own unique electrical properties and interference challenges. To get maximum performance out of each circuit requires 10 to 30 minutes of tinkering, often requiring the support of staff thousands of miles away who are overworked and honestly don't have time to give a shiat. The benefit is each circuit isn't shared on a broadcast segment like the cable co. So we can uncap the download limits. That's right. Uncapped internet in Alaska. The downside is most services get square peg into round role service profiles.


I've troubleshooted them things for a different company I've worked for.  Quite right... DSL is a kind of a curse because every stretch of line has its own behavior.  Them things gotta be tweaked.  And the goddamn DSLAM can get tempermental from time to time.

Do you guys adhere to Net Neutrality also, or do you do any traffic/shaping/throttling or whatever the current industry eupahism is?
 
2014-08-09 10:39:50 PM  

JolobinSmokin: Modulistic: JolobinSmokin: My

brother-in laws house is pretty good. Sapulpa, ok with cox cable


I live in mid-town Tulsa, but can only get ATT DSL at 6mbps, but I really only get 4.6mbps with .8 upload speed.


One of my best friends has hughs net and lives in Port Graham, AK, a short 60 mile plane ride south west of Homer, AK. And he get 2mbps but 900-1200 latency.  Playing wow together is sometimes a problem with that much latency


But. They are building   A new tower in his village. Not sure the details of what he's suppose to be getting, but  probably better than what I have in the middle of Tulsa.

That's for a microwave shot into port graham and nanwalek, I believe. Of course, it is being contested by the residents of port graham.

By the way, have you ever flown into nanwalek. That "airport" is an accident waiting to happen into a mountain, hard bank to the left or death.


Lol, not nanwalek, but akhiok is similar. You have to buzz the strip once or twice to clear the deer and make sure the dip in the middle of the runway isn't too full of standing water.

The corp doing the work is kodiak microwave, a child company of old harbor native corp. They did a similar thing in Kodiak and were able to get decent speeds at fairly high prices for government and non profit entities in villages that don't even have a convenience store. The consumer internet hasn't been rolled out yet, but it is supposed to be some kind of wimax setup. The kind that goes to hell when heavy, wet snow flies...the kind sw alaska is known for.
 
2014-08-09 10:40:25 PM  

Mentalpatient87: Well yeah, when you have to get your internet by dogsled the latency is gonna suck.


But the burst size is generous.
 
2014-08-09 10:56:32 PM  

Cpl.D: Modulistic: Cpl.D: Modulistic: We actually lost the fiber to juneau last month in the earthquake, an apprx 10km of fiber had to be replaced. Just to get the fiber repair vessel to leave the berth is a 500,000 bill. Gadian, find a way to get me your phone number associated with your dsl line and I will let you know what your line can achieve and give you a month trial at that speed.

That's just good-karma-bait right there.

We really do want to provide a good product. Because of the nature of dsl, each circuit is just that, a unique circuit with its own unique electrical properties and interference challenges. To get maximum performance out of each circuit requires 10 to 30 minutes of tinkering, often requiring the support of staff thousands of miles away who are overworked and honestly don't have time to give a shiat. The benefit is each circuit isn't shared on a broadcast segment like the cable co. So we can uncap the download limits. That's right. Uncapped internet in Alaska. The downside is most services get square peg into round role service profiles.

I've troubleshooted them things for a different company I've worked for.  Quite right... DSL is a kind of a curse because every stretch of line has its own behavior.  Them things gotta be tweaked.  And the goddamn DSLAM can get tempermental from time to time.

Do you guys adhere to Net Neutrality also, or do you do any traffic/shaping/throttling or whatever the current industry eupahism is?


We don't sell a tv product, so we generally encourage you to stream whatever you want because it doesn't steal from a competing product line (tv, movies) and it tends to take service away from the cable co. The danger, I guess, is a content provider could set up a server in seattle and sell tv to whoever can get a reliable connection in Alaska without having to pay for the infrastructure or undersea fiber. The question is, who do you bill for the saturation of the infrastructure? The provider? The end user? An elegant solution was to install cache servers in Alaska to get the content closer to the last mile. At this time, we don't throttle or care how much or what you use.
 
2014-08-09 11:05:25 PM  

Modulistic: We don't sell a tv product, so we generally encourage you to stream whatever you want because it doesn't steal from a competing product line (tv, movies) and it tends to take service away from the cable co. The danger, I guess, is a content provider could set up a server in seattle and sell tv to whoever can get a reliable connection in Alaska without having to pay for the infrastructure or undersea fiber. The question is, who do you bill for the saturation of the infrastructure? The provider? The end user? An elegant solution was to install cache servers in Alaska to get the content closer to the last mile. At this time, we don't throttle or care how much or what you use.


That's good.  I'm big on Net Neutrality also.  We do have cable here, and stuff like Netflix *is* a direct competitor to our VOD services, but we run both with no trouble.  We put in our own fiber, and we're keeping our UBRs *undersold*, so bandwidth is here in abundance.  We're putting in fiber as if we were expecting someone to make it illegal tomorrow.  And even all the Netflix traffic isn't a threat to our network... we're a member of the Netflix Open Connect program.  We've got servers at every headend that mirrors the Netflix library.  So they're effectively streaming locally.  It's a sweet setup.  So for saturation of infrastructure... we build ours to make that never happen.  When a UBR in a residential area hits 50% capacity during peak hours, we stop adding people to it.  If more folks want that sweet sweet internets, we go out there and install more hardware.  A new UBR goes up.  And we don't play BGP games with other providers... at the gateways between our networks and others, we feed in cards and ports until any potential bottleneck goes byebye.

I like this company.  No board members, privately held... and whoever has the long term plan seems like he's a sharp one.
 
2014-08-09 11:16:43 PM  
Fiber is difficult here because the ground is frozen for so long, environmental permits, right of way and distance (powering amps in remote areas, avalanches, mountains etc). There just isn't enough density to get your money back yet. I think once the demand for 100m per house is useful for the average user, then fiber will be more pervasive. For now we are squeezing every last drop out of the copper. We have found some pretty cool ways to backhaul on bonded pairs.
 
2014-08-09 11:18:13 PM  
Sometimes I wish I worked in the states so I could work with the really heavy stuff. Alaska is great, though.
 
2014-08-09 11:34:49 PM  
Even a 5Mbps connection is good enough to stream the Netflix if the provider has the bandwidth to back it up.  And doesn't oversell their nodes.  And doesn't do traffic shaping or what have you.
 
2014-08-09 11:54:31 PM  
Pffft.  Amateurs.


www.speedtest.net
 
2014-08-10 12:30:37 AM  
www.speedtest.net
 
2014-08-10 01:39:46 AM  

baronbloodbath: Pffft.  Amateurs.


[www.speedtest.net image 300x135]


I can manipulate my results too!

www.speedtest.net

/turned on my VPN
/farking compression how does it work?
 
2014-08-10 02:38:33 AM  
www.speedtest.net

Tower location was actually NE of Atlanta, not near Birmingham.  Thank Jebus I have an old, unlimited account.  I kept it to use as a backup on my current road trip but it's turned out to be my primary connection.  I've had good internet service at one location in the last year.  Passable at 3 or 4.  The rest of the places I've stayed have had mindbogglingly shiatty internet service.  Many so bad I couldn't load a web page even if I wanted to wait 5 minutes for it to finish.  Now I'm getting near the end of my trip and looking for a place to settle down.  Good internet access is a must.  That's at odds with my desire to live in a cabin in the woods.  Compromises will have to be made.
 
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