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2014-08-09 10:10:30 AM  
Raise it double present price.
Cut down on number of wear and tear visitors, but increase revenue. Ta Da!

Crap, I would pay double to actually ride something as opposed to spending 7 of the 8 hour tour standing in a farking line.
 
2014-08-09 10:28:47 AM  

snocone: Raise it double present price.
Cut down on number of wear and tear visitors, but increase revenue. Ta Da!

Crap, I would pay double to actually ride something as opposed to spending 7 of the 8 hour tour standing in a farking line.


Exactly.
 
2014-08-09 12:30:58 PM  

clancifer: snocone: Raise it double present price.
Cut down on number of wear and tear visitors, but increase revenue. Ta Da!

Crap, I would pay double to actually ride something as opposed to spending 7 of the 8 hour tour standing in a farking line.

Exactly.


You could easily already do that, just buy 2 tickets for everyone and use their pass system.
 
2014-08-09 12:41:54 PM  
Just ended a week on a Disney cruise ship and a few days in Orlando. If you have any extra cash, buy Disney stock. Trust me, people literally can't hand over their money fast enough.
 
2014-08-09 12:43:03 PM  
In this day and age of so many accessible entertainment choices, how the fark does a dinosaur like Disney stay not just relevant, but dominant? Is it a testament to the power of marketing over kids, where once they hear about it they won't stop kicking and screaming until you take them?
 
2014-08-09 01:03:59 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: In this day and age of so many accessible entertainment choices, how the fark does a dinosaur like Disney stay not just relevant, but dominant? Is it a testament to the power of marketing over kids, where once they hear about it they won't stop kicking and screaming until you take them?




I think the marketing is more geared towards the parents whose Baby Boomer parents didn't lavish enough money on them. They want to make sure and not make that mistake with their kids.
 
2014-08-09 01:16:07 PM  

capn' fun: Just ended a week on a Disney cruise ship and a few days in Orlando. If you have any extra cash, buy Disney stock. Trust me, people literally can't hand over their money fast enough.


Went on a Disney cruise about 3 years ago, and there were passengers who got on the ship and bee-lined it for the booking desks to set up their next cruise. THIS CRUISE HASN'T EVEN FARKING STARTED YET
 
2014-08-09 01:17:04 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Yankees Team Gynecologist: In this day and age of so many accessible entertainment choices, how the fark does a dinosaur like Disney stay not just relevant, but dominant? Is it a testament to the power of marketing over kids, where once they hear about it they won't stop kicking and screaming until you take them?

I think the marketing is more geared towards the parents whose Baby Boomer parents didn't lavish enough money on them. They want to make sure and not make that mistake with their kids.


Yeah, but the same money can be spent on non-Disney stuff. Or do those alternatives not exist? I would've thought by now Disney would've been marginalized, kind of like how there are now a ton of quality TV shows to choose from and we're not all forced to watch shiat like Gilligan's Island or Dukes of Hazzard.
 
2014-08-09 01:19:09 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: In this day and age of so many accessible entertainment choices, how the fark does a dinosaur like Disney stay not just relevant, but dominant? Is it a testament to the power of marketing over kids, where once they hear about it they won't stop kicking and screaming until you take them?


Disney obviously has several irons in the fire so if one falters, there are others to fall back on.  But just looking at their theme parks, they obviously focus on customer service and the intangibles like keeping rifraff out and keeping the parks clean and tidy.  Compare a day at Disney with a day at Six Flags.  You pay more, but the parks are clean, the lines are organized, and the hooligan activity is kept to a minimum.  Why is one raking in huge profits and the other struggling to survive?
 
2014-08-09 01:25:12 PM  
Every last second of your visit to Disneyworld/land is engineered for perfection. As others have mentioned, there is literally no garbage, no bad behavior (outside of tired kids), etc.  They've perfected the experience.

For people my age (almost 40), however, there have definitely been some changes that I don't like. First and foremost, they've tried to shoe-horn a movie tie-in to just about every ride they can. I understand adding Johnny Depp to the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, but why is Iago in the Tiki Room? They've replaced 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, etc. in order to add in rides for Toy Story, Lilo & Stitch, blah blah blah.
 
2014-08-09 01:26:43 PM  

SCUBA_Archer: Yankees Team Gynecologist: In this day and age of so many accessible entertainment choices, how the fark does a dinosaur like Disney stay not just relevant, but dominant? Is it a testament to the power of marketing over kids, where once they hear about it they won't stop kicking and screaming until you take them?

Disney obviously has several irons in the fire so if one falters, there are others to fall back on.  But just looking at their theme parks, they obviously focus on customer service and the intangibles like keeping rifraff out and keeping the parks clean and tidy.  Compare a day at Disney with a day at Six Flags.  You pay more, but the parks are clean, the lines are organized, and the hooligan activity is kept to a minimum.  Why is one raking in huge profits and the other struggling to survive?


This. Quick illustration; Disney cruise, buffet breakfast. Food is excellent, so is service. Seagull craps on glass canopy overhead. Leave, get more coffee, back in less than five minutes. Glass is now sparkling clean, table has been wiped down. Went to Sea World the day after we got back to FL; totally different vibe. Surly employees, screaming parents, more SEC gear and beer waking around than at the Iron Bowl. We've been going to Disney for all our vacations for years now and haven't found anyplace else with the same level of service for the price to draw us away.
 
2014-08-09 01:30:23 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: In this day and age of so many accessible entertainment choices, how the fark does a dinosaur like Disney stay not just relevant, but dominant? Is it a testament to the power of marketing over kids, where once they hear about it they won't stop kicking and screaming until you take them?


The thing is, nobody is building more DisneyLands and DisneyWorlds in the US.  The population keeps growing but the options for this specific type of experience are still fairly limited.  There are only a few players in the country with the array of licensed characters that Disney can draw on, and that's a major part of the parks' appeal.
 
2014-08-09 01:37:04 PM  

snocone: Crap, I would pay double to actually ride something as opposed to spending 7 of the 8 hour tour standing in a farking line.


The best way to avoid lines is a seasonal park on a weekday when a lot of kids are in school.  Like Kings Island this week or next.

/there's just enough kids not in school to keep the park running at limited capacity
//yes, in this neck of the woods, many schools start early to mid August
 
2014-08-09 01:40:09 PM  

Derwood: Every last second of your visit to Disneyworld/land is engineered for perfection. As others have mentioned, there is literally no garbage, no bad behavior (outside of tired kids), etc.  They've perfected the experience.


Watch the movie Exit Through The Gift Shop for the segment on what happens at Disneyland when a little protest art appears.
 
2014-08-09 01:47:52 PM  

germ78: Derwood: Every last second of your visit to Disneyworld/land is engineered for perfection. As others have mentioned, there is literally no garbage, no bad behavior (outside of tired kids), etc.  They've perfected the experience.

Watch the movie Exit Through The Gift Shop for the segment on what happens at Disneyland when a little protest art appears.


Lemme guess:  You put your protest art on your private property, nothing happens.  You vandalize Disney property for your art, they don't like it.

How'd I do?
 
2014-08-09 01:49:27 PM  

Derwood: First and foremost, they've tried to shoe-horn a movie tie-in to just about every ride they can. I understand adding Johnny Depp to the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, but why is Iago in the Tiki Room? They've replaced 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride


Those were Disney movies too.
 
2014-08-09 01:59:34 PM  

Tax Boy: Derwood: First and foremost, they've tried to shoe-horn a movie tie-in to just about every ride they can. I understand adding Johnny Depp to the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, but why is Iago in the Tiki Room? They've replaced 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride

Those were Disney movies too.


But not ones that anyone has seen in forever. See also: The Black Cauldron, The Aristocats, The Rescuers, etc.  The main focus of the park is everything from Little Mermaid to the present
 
2014-08-09 02:06:04 PM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Yankees Team Gynecologist: In this day and age of so many accessible entertainment choices, how the fark does a dinosaur like Disney stay not just relevant, but dominant? Is it a testament to the power of marketing over kids, where once they hear about it they won't stop kicking and screaming until you take them?

I think the marketing is more geared towards the parents whose Baby Boomer parents didn't lavish enough money on them. They want to make sure and not make that mistake with their kids.

Yeah, but the same money can be spent on non-Disney stuff. Or do those alternatives not exist? I would've thought by now Disney would've been marginalized, kind of like how there are now a ton of quality TV shows to choose from and we're not all forced to watch shiat like Gilligan's Island or Dukes of Hazzard.


Disney has several ways of making Disney be Disney. The movie tie-ins, the various things they do throughout their Orlando properties, a pretty constant update cycle to things. Each of their gift shops even has unique stuff in it. You want that one particular item, it's only in the gift shop next to Soarin' at Epcot, not at the "big" Epcot shop, and by no means at the gate shop you could get to without park admission. On the other hand, they have an "official" Disney outlet shop at one of the outlet malls, selling last quarter's stuff. And that is on top of everything else that's been said here. I have been to Orlando Disney parks perhaps a dozen times in the last 20 years, with my wife, by myself (once - I was in Orlando for two weeks straight), and with the whole family. They work very hard at the Disney "experience" being unique.
 
2014-08-09 02:14:37 PM  

Derwood: But not ones that anyone has seen in forever. See also: The Black Cauldron, The Aristocats, The Rescuers, etc.  The main focus of the park is everything from Little Mermaid to the present


Well, except for Dumbo the Flying Elephant, Peter Pan's Flight, Snow White's Scary Adventure, Matterhorn Bobsleds,  Alice in Wonderland, Casey Jr Circus Train, it's a small world, Mad Tea Party, Pinnochio's Daring Journey....

It is true that there's a general black hole of "it never happened, we don't know what you're talking about" at Disney covering the late 1970's and the entire 1980's - but that's not limited to the parks.
 
2014-08-09 02:15:25 PM  
Attendance at Disneyland would be lots higher measured by dollar volume; if measured by
head count, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually went through the floor.  (Consider the concept
"adjusting for inflation" - "Frozen" surpassed $1B because tickets are so expensive, not because
it's good - is it any good? - but adjusted for inflation, I think the most successful animated feature
is still "The Jungle Book".)
 
2014-08-09 02:22:42 PM  

Li'l Robbie: Attendance at Disneyland would be lots higher measured by dollar volume; if measured by
head count, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually went through the floor.  (Consider the concept
"adjusting for inflation" - "Frozen" surpassed $1B because tickets are so expensive, not because
it's good - is it any good? - but adjusted for inflation, I think the most successful animated feature
is still "The Jungle Book".)


That's the point. Folks are willing to pay more for a better experience, including smaller crowds.
 
2014-08-09 03:34:09 PM  
We took my father and our son there several years ago. It was funny - not one day went past where I didn't hear "farking Eisner" at least three times from employees. I'm glad to see the management after him was investing in the parks. A number of the rides were looking ratty and rust was showing.
 
2014-08-09 03:46:46 PM  

Derwood: Every last second of your visit to Disneyworld/land is engineered for perfection. As others have mentioned, there is literally no garbage, no bad behavior (outside of tired kids), etc.  They've perfected the experience.

For people my age (almost 40), however, there have definitely been some changes that I don't like. First and foremost, they've tried to shoe-horn a movie tie-in to just about every ride they can. I understand adding Johnny Depp to the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, but why is Iago in the Tiki Room? They've replaced 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, etc. in order to add in rides for Toy Story, Lilo & Stitch, blah blah blah.


Disneyland still has Mr. Toad's. Also, 20,000 Leagues is still there, only rebranded as a Finding Nemo ride. It's still basically the same ride, just with a new paint job and some added Nemo characters. What I wish they would bring back in Disneyland is the Tomorrowland People Mover.
 
2014-08-09 04:27:42 PM  
I was at WDW in May for a 5k, Disneyland in June for my birthday, and will be back at WDW in November because of a business trip.  The customer service is amazing.  Ignoring the rides, the parks are jam packed full of stuff going on.  If you actually take your time and look around when walking in you will see lots of things happening that aren't major ride type stuff.  The resorts are the same way.  We're doing the Christmas party and behind the scenes tour in November.  The rest of the time I plan on relaxing and drinking by the pool, eating some great food, and maybe riding a couple rides.
 
2014-08-09 05:25:40 PM  
So am I ...
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2014-08-09 07:00:34 PM  
What Disney does better than anyone is customer service. Everyone from the street sweeper to a front desk clerk is empowered to make things right for a customer. If a street sweeper sees a kid drop their popcorn they go to a vendor and have it replaced---all without the customer asking or having it cleared by a supervisor.
There are different levels of "Guest Recovery" but that's it at it's most basic.
 
2014-08-09 08:58:21 PM  
Not even at gunpoint.
 
2014-08-09 10:08:54 PM  

optikeye: What Disney does better than anyone is customer service. Everyone from the street sweeper to a front desk clerk is empowered to make things right for a customer. If a street sweeper sees a kid drop their popcorn they go to a vendor and have it replaced---all without the customer asking or having it cleared by a supervisor.
There are different levels of "Guest Recovery" but that's it at it's most basic.


I get that Disney nails the quality theme park experience; what I don't get is the huge and widespread appetite for the theme park experience in the first place. Seems like something that should have waned into a more niche interest in modern times, when there are many more choices in entertainment and you don't need to go with the big-name institution nearly as much. Must be something that kids are universally and naturally drawn to.
 
2014-08-09 11:19:59 PM  
Had a *way* better time and customer experience at Cedar Point.

At any Disney park we had to hunt people down to ask questions, signage was awful, and when we did get answers, 50% of the time they were incorrect / conflicted with a previous answer. Rides were lame, FastPass Plus sucked, and we never saw one character walking around greeting people (Oh, you want to see Mickey? Grab a $8 water and stand next to all those other sheep waiting in line).

At Cedar Point we were greeted very genuinely, got pics with a bunch of Peanuts characters, had to wait for some rides but they were awesome creations from within the past 20 years (not lame pseudo-rides from the 70s), and just had a fantastic experience.

IMO ... CP is way more fun for today's kids. Disney is for yesterday's kids trying to relive / fix their youth.
 
2014-08-09 11:41:25 PM  
Plus you can't underestimate the power of a growing upper and middle class in other countries that still want to come to America.

I just got dragged the Disney again last month and was shocked at the number of foreign languages I heard. Yes, I know that they could also be US residents or citizens. But when you're standing in line and hear 5 different languages being spoken besides English: it makes you think.
 
2014-08-10 04:04:42 AM  

Yankees Team Gynecologist: I get that Disney nails the quality theme park experience; what I don't get is the huge and widespread appetite for the theme park experience in the first place.


The Disney Experience isn't just the theme parks. I still have about 5 days of unexpired 'park hopper' tickets I never used for Disney Vacation in 2001. For most of those we never touched the park..standing in lines, etc. and just enjoyed the resorts, bars, some water craft rentals..etc. And for price point you get fawned over at Disney like a high roller even if you're staying on property at their motel places. (Bets are off if you stay off property---cheap skate).

As for why people want theme park experience---people crave immerse things, From playing a video game, to going to a 300 dollar spa, to taking a wadd of bills to strip club.
It removes you from your day to day grind. You're king for a day for pay.
 
2014-08-10 05:16:46 AM  
Keeps the riff-raff out.
 
2014-08-10 09:34:01 AM  

Bob The Nob: Had a *way* better time and customer experience at Cedar Point.

At any Disney park we had to hunt people down to ask questions, signage was awful, and when we did get answers, 50% of the time they were incorrect / conflicted with a previous answer. Rides were lame, FastPass Plus sucked, and we never saw one character walking around greeting people (Oh, you want to see Mickey? Grab a $8 water and stand next to all those other sheep waiting in line).

At Cedar Point we were greeted very genuinely, got pics with a bunch of Peanuts characters, had to wait for some rides but they were awesome creations from within the past 20 years (not lame pseudo-rides from the 70s), and just had a fantastic experience.

IMO ... CP is way more fun for today's kids. Disney is for yesterday's kids trying to relive / fix their youth.


I would say the opposite. Cedar Point has the adult rides. Magic Kingdom and the animal place have no end of fun stuff for kids. Kids can't even go on the big cedar point attractions.
 
2014-08-10 12:59:24 PM  
I'll take Disney and all it has to offer, including their cruise line, and resorts, over any other vacation destination anywhere, any day of the week. Without a seconds thought.
 
2014-08-10 07:14:17 PM  

Tophersky: I'll take Disney and all it has to offer, including their cruise line, and resorts, over any other vacation destination anywhere, any day of the week. Without a seconds thought.


Does this include Hedonism?  'Cause I can't see it including Hedonism.
 
2014-08-10 09:27:07 PM  
Never been, won't go. I've never understood the interest, and I'm a fan of the movies.
 
2014-08-10 09:52:51 PM  

Derwood: Tax Boy: Derwood: First and foremost, they've tried to shoe-horn a movie tie-in to just about every ride they can. I understand adding Johnny Depp to the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, but why is Iago in the Tiki Room? They've replaced 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride

Those were Disney movies too.

But not ones that anyone has seen in forever. See also: The Black Cauldron, The Aristocats, The Rescuers, etc.  The main focus of the park is everything from Little Mermaid to the present




Is that a problem...The Little Mermaid is 25 years old now? How long should you have to wait for a ride to be built around it?
 
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