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(8 News Now)   GM would like everyone driving a GM vehicle to know that they should probably park it outside from now on so it doesn't catch your house on fire   (8newsnow.com) divider line 35
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2014-08-09 01:26:48 AM  
"That's a funny headline, I wonder what the truth is."

Click.

"Holy crap."
 
2014-08-09 01:40:48 AM  
this is why we shouldnt have bailed these farkers out. the free market spoke; GM makes shiat; let them die.

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2014-08-09 04:24:14 AM  

Gig103: "That's a funny headline, I wonder what the truth is."

Click.

"Holy crap."


Exactly what I did
 
2014-08-09 04:32:12 AM  
More problems with windows.
 
2014-08-09 04:50:19 AM  

Bob Down: More problems with windows.


No' windows Mo' problems
 
2014-08-09 04:52:56 AM  
Remember when we used to make fun of the Russians because they made really large clunky cars that easily fell apart?
 
2014-08-09 05:05:33 AM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: Remember when we used to make fun of the Russians because they made really large clunky cars that easily fell apart?


Can I buy a Lada?

And is it even possible to buy a car without power windows these days?  If it would save a few hundred dollars and prevented my house from burning down I would gladly go without power windows.

I grew up without power windows.  Really children, it's not that hard to actually roll your window down manually.
 
2014-08-09 05:08:23 AM  
Just give it up GM,  go into business making something else.

Maybe you could handle something with no moving parts or electrical usage.

I propose we officially change the word recall to GM.  Toyota issued a GM today. Ford announced they are GMing 100,000 Aerostars today.

/Originally saw this idea from a fark headline,  so not mine but I like it
 
2014-08-09 05:16:44 AM  
Seriously, how much more of this can we bear?
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2014-08-09 05:17:24 AM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: Remember when we used to make fun of the Russians because they made really large clunky cars that easily fell apart?



"What country is this car from?"
"It no longer exists."
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Put it in H!
 
2014-08-09 05:23:31 AM  
Why is it taking them so long to make the parts? Retooling of the machines I guess.
 
2014-08-09 06:05:22 AM  

gfid: Some Coke Drinking Guy: Remember when we used to make fun of the Russians because they made really large clunky cars that easily fell apart?

Can I buy a Lada?

And is it even possible to buy a car without power windows these days?  If it would save a few hundred dollars and prevented my house from burning down I would gladly go without power windows.

I grew up without power windows.  Really children, it's not that hard to actually roll your window down manually.


Power windows are lighter than hand cranked windows. every ounce possible is shaved in the name of fuel economy. They claim that power windows are less expensive to make and install. Apparently they are if GM designs them. Higher cost of ownership though.
 
2014-08-09 06:08:44 AM  
Ever hear of a 'fuse' guys? They keep electrical things from lighting on fire.

/I guess firing all those electrical engineers and then hiring ones that got degrees online saved a lot of money.
 
2014-08-09 06:33:54 AM  

Boo_Guy: Toyota issued a GM today

www.thedetroitbureau.com

They were doing that before GM.
 
2014-08-09 06:45:43 AM  
At least with the Ford Pinto you had to ram the thing from the rear.

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2014-08-09 08:07:41 AM  
This is why I only own German cars. Sure, they have their quirks. I often find myself wanting to drive through Belgium, with the intent of taking France.
 
2014-08-09 08:17:17 AM  

Boo_Guy: Just give it up GM,  go into business making something else.

Maybe you could handle something with no moving parts or electrical usage.



I came to say that GM does make something with no moving parts or electrical usage, and that it's most of their business now days....Sub-prime Loans.


However it turns out they're not very good at that either..

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-04/gm-financial-says-doj-seeks -s ubprime-loan-records.html
 
2014-08-09 08:25:18 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: This is why I only own German cars. Sure, they have their quirks. I often find myself wanting to drive through Belgium, with the intent of taking France.


Owned one once.  It was nice till it crossed 100k miles.  Then it fell the fark apart - piece by piece.
Never again.

You want reliable?  Go Asian
 
2014-08-09 08:38:27 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: This is why I only own German cars. Sure, they have their quirks. I often find myself wanting to drive through Belgium, with the intent of taking France.


Just be sure it was actually built in Germany.  There's a very popular German brand which build most of its US-market units in Mexico.  Endless problems with the electric windows on those, but zero with the identical German-built Euro-market ones.
 
2014-08-09 08:43:33 AM  
 
2014-08-09 08:45:43 AM  
Not to bash any American automaker, but: 3 years back, my Uncle, had a Ford Expedition,  He and my Aunt came home one evening, a cold front was blowing through, it was in the 40's, cold for South Texas, they parked their car in the garage part of the house. Went to bed as usual.Woke up about 3 hours later to the house on fire. The fire depatment said, with the wind, it was like throwing gas on a fire.
When they made an insurance claim, the insurance sent a tow truck over 300 miles from Dallas to pick up the vehicle for investigation. The tow truck driver said those Fords had an issue with sitting for a while after running, the catalytic converters would catch fire.
My uncle said the way the fire spread, the investigators told him it pointed to that location as the ignition source.
Oh well, spread the risk versus profits to be made, versus cost of litigation. Cue the beginning of "Fight Club."
 
2014-08-09 08:54:16 AM  

stvdallas: I am quite happy with my GM vehicle at the track.

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Those taillights look stupid.

Whatever happened to the nice round ones they used to have?

Also, blue is the wrong color for a Corvette.  It's not a Monte Carlo.  Monte Carlos look okay in blue.

The only color Corvettes should be available in are black or silver.

Also, it looks like there's barely enough room to park 2 cars in your garage.  Why did you leave the door open when you took that picture?  Is it to let us know your other car is an Audi?

So now the whole world knows you have bad taste in cars.
 
2014-08-09 09:08:44 AM  

dionysusaur: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: This is why I only own German cars. Sure, they have their quirks. I often find myself wanting to drive through Belgium, with the intent of taking France.

Just be sure it was actually built in Germany.  There's a very popular German brand which build most of its US-market units in Mexico.  Endless problems with the electric windows on those, but zero with the identical German-built Euro-market ones.


It was the first thing I checked. The two manufacturing plants for this particular model are in South Africa, and Germany. The one I have was built in Germany.
 
2014-08-09 09:15:49 AM  

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: This is why I only own German cars. Sure, they have their quirks. I often find myself wanting to drive through Belgium, with the intent of taking France.

Owned one once.  It was nice till it crossed 100k miles.  Then it fell the fark apart - piece by piece.
Never again.

You want reliable?  Go Asian


There are some nice Asian cars, they just don't feel the same. I also like the feel of a rear wheel drive car. Depending on what German car you're driving has a lot to do with the durability. I know a lot of Volkswagens tend to self destruct over time. I stay away from those.
 
2014-08-09 10:08:43 AM  

gfid: Some Coke Drinking Guy: Remember when we used to make fun of the Russians because they made really large clunky cars that easily fell apart?

Can I buy a Lada?

And is it even possible to buy a car without power windows these days?  If it would save a few hundred dollars and prevented my house from burning down I would gladly go without power windows.

I grew up without power windows.  Really children, it's not that hard to actually roll your window down manually.


You know what's funny? When VW redesigned the US version of the Jetta for the 2011 model year, one of their goals was to be able to sell a basic version of it for around $15,000, so they could compete with the Civic and Corolla. Even that bare- bones, basic version- available without a radio or A/C, has power windows and locks, because they figured out it would actually cost them MORE to design two different window regulators, sets of interior door panels, and lock mechanisms, in order to have there be manual locks and windows on what would ultimately be very few cars ordered without power ones. So you can go and buy a Jetta for $15,000, and it has a manual transmission, no A/C, no stereo, an underpowered engine, but it has power windows and keyless entry.

The other thing I think is strange is why there's still a lot of cars without cruise control. Way back when, in order to do cruise control, the car would have to have a bunch of extra wiring, a control box for the cruise control, a speed sensor of some sort, a vacuum transducer (older cruise control units usually had a device operated by engine vacuum that pulled on the throttle) an extra cable or two, brackets, switches, and all sorts of things. It actually cost a bit of money, and involved labor to add. Nowadays, with pretty much all cars sold today having electronic (drive by wire) throttles, adding cruise control is literally a matter of a few lines of code and a couple buttons. Even the little bit of extra wiring is already present on a lot of cars that have it available, because it's cheaper to design only one wiring harness and have extra plugs, than to have separate harness designs for different option packages.

Same thing with traction control on cars that are equipped with ABS. Up until the 2012 model year, when stability control was made mandatory, the only difference between ABS and ABS/ traction control was a switch (usually) and some code. Traction control uses the ABS system to apply the brake at the wheel that is slipping, so that power can be transferred to the other wheel, and usually there's also some sort of throttle limiter as well to reduce power a bit. So if a car has ABS, all the bits are there to have TCS, as well. Doesn't matter anymore, because all cars now have stability control, which includes ABS and traction control.
 
2014-08-09 10:23:00 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: This is why I only own German cars. Sure, they have their quirks. I often find myself wanting to drive through Belgium, with the intent of taking France.

Owned one once.  It was nice till it crossed 100k miles.  Then it fell the fark apart - piece by piece.
Never again.

You want reliable?  Go Asian

There are some nice Asian cars, they just don't feel the same. I also like the feel of a rear wheel drive car. Depending on what German car you're driving has a lot to do with the durability. I know a lot of Volkswagens tend to self destruct over time. I stay away from those.


THIS. Volkswagens (Audis as well) made from around 1997 or so, depending on model, up to about 2005, (06 or 07 on some) had a lot of issues. They REALLY dropped the quality control ball- I'm a mechanic who mostly does Volvo, VW, and Audi. And everything I see from that year range is a mixed bag. I personally had a 1997 Jetta for a long time that was an amazing car. Had very few problems aside from the usual European car plastic parts failure (the Europeans have NEVER figured out how to make things from plastic worth a damn) I had it until it hit 206,000 miles, then sold it about 3 years ago. The guy that bought it from me still has it, and it's over 230k (He has me service it) I had another customer with an another 1997 Jetta, this guy maintained it well, but it still was CONSTANTLY having issues. And it actually had fewer options than mine. I've seen the same on 5th generation Passats as well. One will go 200k or more with little more than routine maintenance, another will fall apart completely by 150k. And those were all built in Germany, which eliminates the claim by a lot of people that the problem is with quality control at the plant in Mexico. Now, almost all VWs sold here are built either in Mexico (Jetta, Beetle, etc.) or Tennesee (Passat) and every indication so far is that they're MUCH better cars than they were in the late 90s- early 2000s. My brother has a 2011 Jetta TDI that's approaching 40k miles, and he has, so far, had nothing go wrong other than the button panel for the bluetooth popping loose constantly, which they fixed under warranty. And the 2011 was the first year for a new design, which often has bugs that need worked out. Now, there WERE a few minor recalls and a software update or 2- again, not all that unusual for first- year cars, but those got fixed quickly and never gave him any trouble aside from the inconvenience of having to make a trip to the dealer for them to fix them. And the dealer he goes to always washes and vacuums the car after doing any service, so he just considers it a trip to have his car cleaned.
 
2014-08-09 10:30:44 AM  
gfid: stvdallas: I am quite happy with my GM vehicle at the track.

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Those taillights look stupid.

Whatever happened to the nice round ones they used to have?


Some might agree with you, since round has been traditional.  It's functional, though, with air ducts for cooling.
 

Also, blue is the wrong color for a Corvette.  It's not a Monte Carlo.  Monte Carlos look okay in blue.

The only color Corvettes should be available in are black or silver.


Some might also say Red or Yellow.  To each their own.  I like blue...what can I say.

Also, it looks like there's barely enough room to park 2 cars in your garage.  Why did you leave the door open when you took that picture?  Is it to let us know your other car is an Audi?

I guess you don't understand perspective.  More than enough room to park. 

So now the whole world knows you have bad taste in cars.

LOL!
 
2014-08-09 10:44:55 AM  

gfid: stvdallas: I am quite happy with my GM vehicle at the track.

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Those taillights look stupid.

Whatever happened to the nice round ones they used to have?

Also, blue is the wrong color for a Corvette.  It's not a Monte Carlo.  Monte Carlos look okay in blue.

The only color Corvettes should be available in are black or silver.

Also, it looks like there's barely enough room to park 2 cars in your garage.  Why did you leave the door open when you took that picture?  Is it to let us know your other car is an Audi?

So now the whole world knows you have bad taste in cars.


We get it, you're jealous.
 
2014-08-09 11:03:55 AM  
ForeRight:  We get it, you're jealous.

I'm pretty curious what he drives.  Most people that are like him usually drive a Yugo or something.
 
2014-08-09 11:31:49 AM  

stvdallas: LOL!


ForeRight: We get it, you're jealous.


maybe a little.

I'll admit if I could afford it, I'd probably own a Corvette and an Audi.

At least my car is paid for and it runs well.

And blue is better than red or yellow, but I only want black cars.  Fark those cheery colors.

I almost bought a Corvette once.  I think it was a '79 model year, but the bastard wanted nearly $10,000 for it.  I thought it was too much.
 
2014-08-09 11:43:08 AM  

gfid: At least my car is paid for and it runs well.


Both cars are completely paid for.  I track the Stingray (see video) and wouldn't do that if I wasn't ready to walk away from the car if it got totaled there.  Bad idea to finance something like that.

I'm 50, and have never had a car loan in my life.  Hell, my credit pretty much sucks since I don't believe in it.  Only thing I ever had financed was a student loan for college.  Once I got out of that hole, I never wanted to revisit it.
 
2014-08-09 01:50:26 PM  
You should do that even if you own a car made by somebody other than GM.
 
2014-08-09 02:54:13 PM  
Remind me next time to buy a Ford.
 
2014-08-09 07:17:22 PM  

stvdallas: I am quite happy with my GM vehicle at the track.

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Looks sharp.  Z51, right?
 
2014-08-09 08:09:53 PM  
Yep
 
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