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2014-08-08 08:18:18 PM  
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/I know it hasn't premiered yet but I read the book, a knife is involved
 
2014-08-08 09:47:03 PM  
The Bush administration transferred at least seven detainees into Qaddafi's control, knowing full well that he was a murderer, a tyrant, and a sponsor of terrorism. The U.K. took the lead in al-Saadi's case, but CIA agents were complicit in her treatment. If you'd helped kidnap a 12-year-old girl and delivered her to the henchmen of a Libyan dictator, what would you do to prevent your shameful, embarrass deed from being made public? If given a black pen and the opportunity to ink over the official record, would you?

I'm not defending rendition, nor denying that the CIA is responsible for quite a lot of it, but this is a classic case of misdirection.  He mentions Bush, the headline includes the CIA, but this particular case was arranged by MI6. Note the entire article, absent that one line, actually mentions that.
 
2014-08-08 10:34:37 PM  
biatches gotta learn.
 
2014-08-08 10:34:38 PM  
She had a knife. That's what tazers are for.
 
2014-08-08 10:35:11 PM  
From TFA:
"He [the officer who deployed the Taser] quite possibly saved the juvenile's life that night," Grandpre said.


WTF kind of logic is that? That would justify anything short of literally killing her:

Shoot her in the leg and cripple her for life?  At least she ain't dead.

Nightstick her in the head and leave her a vegetable?  At least she ain't dead...
 
2014-08-08 10:36:43 PM  

PhiloeBedoe: From TFA:
"He [the officer who deployed the Taser] quite possibly saved the juvenile's life that night," Grandpre said.


WTF kind of logic is that? That would justify anything short of literally killing her:

Shoot her in the leg and cripple her for life?  At least she ain't dead.

Nightstick her in the head and leave her a vegetable?  At least she ain't dead...


But he didn't club her or shoot her. He zapped her. She's fine.
 
2014-08-08 10:37:04 PM  
The woman, Dawn Stenstrom, is seeking compensatory and punitive damages for the incident, in which four police officers subdued the young girl, who was wielding a knife -


/Nice try, but your screaming psycho crotch fruit was brandishing a blade. You're lucky the cop just tazed her, and didn't shoot her up. But even if he had, you would have sued then as well. You don't think a little kid can fark up an adult with a knife? Ya, you're gonna lose this one. Take your bullshiat lawsuit and your scumbag hack lawyer somewhere else to cash in on your crazy spawn.
 
2014-08-08 10:39:29 PM  
Cops could of unloaded their clips but didn't. Sorry your crotch fruit is bat shiat crazy
 
2014-08-08 10:41:30 PM  
To be fair there was only 4 cops trying to subdue her.

They should have just pelted her with a bean bag shotgun or rubber bullets until backup arrived.
 
2014-08-08 10:42:41 PM  
"Four police officers in close proximity to an eight-year-old Indian child..."

Wow.
 
2014-08-08 10:43:24 PM  

PhiloeBedoe: From TFA:
"He [the officer who deployed the Taser] quite possibly saved the juvenile's life that night," Grandpre said.


WTF kind of logic is that? That would justify anything short of literally killing her:

Shoot her in the leg and cripple her for life?  At least she ain't dead.

Nightstick her in the head and leave her a vegetable?  At least she ain't dead...


/not sure if you are trolling or just an idiot.  She was brandishing a farking blade, that is a deadly weapon, and a taser was the EXACT thing the officer should have used. In fact, that taser replaces shooting her, or beating the shiat out of her with a PR-24.  The officer did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do.  They could have shot her ass. The general rule for police is equal force plus one.  Which means.....

1. you use your fists, im banging on your head with my rodney king stick, or ..if i have one, youre getting tased.
2. you brandish a knife, club, hammer, or any sharp / heavy / blunt object that i believe can kill / injure me or others, you are getting shot if you don't stop.
3. If you have a gun, well..you know.  BANG. THUD.

So there you have it.  equal force plus one. That is how cops are trained to deal with assholes and still be able to make it home every night.

//the more you know.
 
2014-08-08 10:47:26 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: PhiloeBedoe: From TFA:
"He [the officer who deployed the Taser] quite possibly saved the juvenile's life that night," Grandpre said.


WTF kind of logic is that? That would justify anything short of literally killing her:

Shoot her in the leg and cripple her for life?  At least she ain't dead.

Nightstick her in the head and leave her a vegetable?  At least she ain't dead...

/not sure if you are trolling or just an idiot.  She was brandishing a farking blade, that is a deadly weapon, and a taser was the EXACT thing the officer should have used. In fact, that taser replaces shooting her, or beating the shiat out of her with a PR-24.  The officer did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do.  They could have shot her ass. The general rule for police is equal force plus one.  Which means.....

1. you use your fists, im banging on your head with my rodney king stick, or ..if i have one, youre getting tased.
2. you brandish a knife, club, hammer, or any sharp / heavy / blunt object that i believe can kill / injure me or others, you are getting shot if you don't stop.
3. If you have a gun, well..you know.  BANG. THUD.

So there you have it.  equal force plus one. That is how cops are trained to deal with assholes and still be able to make it home every night.

//the more you know.


Dude, she's f*cking eight years old...
 
2014-08-08 10:48:21 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: PhiloeBedoe: From TFA:
"He [the officer who deployed the Taser] quite possibly saved the juvenile's life that night," Grandpre said.


WTF kind of logic is that? That would justify anything short of literally killing her:

Shoot her in the leg and cripple her for life?  At least she ain't dead.

Nightstick her in the head and leave her a vegetable?  At least she ain't dead...

/not sure if you are trolling or just an idiot.  She was brandishing a farking blade, that is a deadly weapon, and a taser was the EXACT thing the officer should have used. In fact, that taser replaces shooting her, or beating the shiat out of her with a PR-24.  The officer did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do.  They could have shot her ass. The general rule for police is equal force plus one.  Which means.....

1. you use your fists, im banging on your head with my rodney king stick, or ..if i have one, youre getting tased.
2. you brandish a knife, club, hammer, or any sharp / heavy / blunt object that i believe can kill / injure me or others, you are getting shot if you don't stop.
3. If you have a gun, well..you know.  BANG. THUD.

So there you have it.  equal force plus one. That is how cops are trained to deal with assholes and still be able to make it home every night.

//the more you know.


So you think the police officer wearing body armor, with I assume backup from at least one other fully grown body armor wearing officer, was justified in thinking an 8 year old girl with a knife was a threat to his life justifying use of a taser?

What's wrong with mace? Or the nightstick? But hey 50,000 volts, that's heart stoppingly effective, too.
 
2014-08-08 10:50:52 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: The woman, Dawn Stenstrom, is seeking compensatory and punitive damages for the incident, in which four police officers subdued the young girl, who was wielding a knife -


/Nice try, but your screaming psycho crotch fruit was brandishing a blade. You're lucky the cop just tazed her, and didn't shoot her up. But even if he had, you would have sued then as well. You don't think a little kid can fark up an adult with a knife? Ya, you're gonna lose this one. Take your bullshiat lawsuit and your scumbag hack lawyer somewhere else to cash in on your crazy spawn.


This.

all the people who have a problem with it can DIAF.

A tazing, at that point, is the safest thing for the officers involved as well as the child.  You don't tackle an 8 year old, you don't try to fight her for the knife or you both could get cut, and you don't just up and shoot her.

Barring the ridiculous scenario of them carrying around some kind of peaceful sleeping gas....they pretty much did the right thing.  It's a non-story until people spin it, which of course is what's happening.  Momma gotta have a payday!
 
2014-08-08 10:51:12 PM  
Find the mother, tell her to collect her child, or she will be fined $200, and spend the night in jail.  Should be easy for the mother to deal with the knife wielding pooterbanshee, after all, she is only eight.
 
2014-08-08 10:57:21 PM  
If a cop can't take a knife away from an eight year old girl, he has not business being a cop.  I took a knife away from a 15 year old girl trying to stab me without anyone getting injured.  And I'm a skinny little computer geek, not some big scary cop who is supposedly trained in this shiat.

/it was my bipolar step-daughter
 
2014-08-08 10:58:51 PM  

OgreMagi: If a cop can't take a knife away from an eight year old girl, he has not business being a cop.  I took a knife away from a 15 year old girl trying to stab me without anyone getting injured.  And I'm a skinny little computer geek, not some big scary cop who is supposedly trained in this shiat.

/it was my bipolar step-daughter


And by Bi-Polar you mean shiat parents?
 
Poe
2014-08-08 10:59:44 PM  
If someone has a knife, you don't try to grab them or the blade. You create distance, instruct them very firmly to drop it, and see what happens. They put it down, you are golden. They come at you with it, you meet lethal force with lethal force. If they don't make a move, but they don't comply either, then a taser/OC/other less lethal is the way to resolve the situation.
 
2014-08-08 11:00:05 PM  

omeganuepsilon: Bit'O'Gristle: The woman, Dawn Stenstrom, is seeking compensatory and punitive damages for the incident, in which four police officers subdued the young girl, who was wielding a knife -


/Nice try, but your screaming psycho crotch fruit was brandishing a blade. You're lucky the cop just tazed her, and didn't shoot her up. But even if he had, you would have sued then as well. You don't think a little kid can fark up an adult with a knife? Ya, you're gonna lose this one. Take your bullshiat lawsuit and your scumbag hack lawyer somewhere else to cash in on your crazy spawn.

This.

all the people who have a problem with it can DIAF.

A tazing, at that point, is the safest thing for the officers involved as well as the child.  You don't tackle an 8 year old, you don't try to fight her for the knife or you both could get cut, and you don't just up and shoot her.

Barring the ridiculous scenario of them carrying around some kind of peaceful sleeping gas....they pretty much did the right thing.  It's a non-story until people spin it, which of course is what's happening.  Momma gotta have a payday!


Yes it's a real shame they don't have some sort of gas that would render a possible attacker harmless.

They should invent something like that.
 
2014-08-08 11:01:16 PM  
I don't care if she was eight or eighteen. She was obviously nutz, and had a blade. If you think for one second any officer would try to get close enough to mace, or get close enough to strike with a nightstick, you know NOTHING about police training, and have obviously never been one, and have no idea what you're talking about. Knives are 100 times worse than a bullet. They can lay you open, make you bleed out if something is severed (much more so than a tiny bullet). Bullets make tiny little holes, and the chances that a major artery or vein is severed is much smaller than if someone slashes you with a blade. Don't believe me? fine. Look it up. If you are willing to grapple with someone who is waving a blade at you, you are an idiot, and have no business being a police officer. As i said in a previous post, they were WELL within their rights to shoot her ass. But I'm glad they deployed the taser, as that is what is intended for. Takes the suspect down with little / no lasting damage. But please, continue your "OMG SHE WAS JUST EIGHT...THINK OF THE CHILDREN" misinformed / untrained rants. They are nothing if not amusing.
 
2014-08-08 11:02:09 PM  

Yogimus: OgreMagi: If a cop can't take a knife away from an eight year old girl, he has not business being a cop.  I took a knife away from a 15 year old girl trying to stab me without anyone getting injured.  And I'm a skinny little computer geek, not some big scary cop who is supposedly trained in this shiat.

/it was my bipolar step-daughter

And by Bi-Polar you mean shiat parents?


No, as in seeing a psychiatrist and needing medication to keep her from doing crazy shiat like, you know, attacking people with a knife.
 
2014-08-08 11:02:44 PM  

OgreMagi: If a cop can't take a knife away from an eight year old girl, he has not business being a cop.  I took a knife away from a 15 year old girl trying to stab me without anyone getting injured.  And I'm a skinny little computer geek, not some big scary cop who is supposedly trained in this shiat.

/it was my bipolar step-daughter


It's not as simple of a thing as you make it sound.  The minutiae of any given fighting event are what make the event and are very often very dicy(no pun intended).  Meaning unpredictable, especially when dealing with someone who is more or less feral.

You took a chance and got lucky.

Your argument is tatamount to winning the lottery and complaining about all the poor people because making money is sooo easy.
 
2014-08-08 11:05:53 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: PhiloeBedoe: From TFA:
"He [the officer who deployed the Taser] quite possibly saved the juvenile's life that night," Grandpre said.


WTF kind of logic is that? That would justify anything short of literally killing her:

Shoot her in the leg and cripple her for life?  At least she ain't dead.

Nightstick her in the head and leave her a vegetable?  At least she ain't dead...

/not sure if you are trolling or just an idiot.  She was brandishing a farking blade, that is a deadly weapon, and a taser was the EXACT thing the officer should have used. In fact, that taser replaces shooting her, or beating the shiat out of her with a PR-24.  The officer did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do.  They could have shot her ass. The general rule for police is equal force plus one.  Which means.....

1. you use your fists, im banging on your head with my rodney king stick, or ..if i have one, youre getting tased.
2. you brandish a knife, club, hammer, or any sharp / heavy / blunt object that i believe can kill / injure me or others, you are getting shot if you don't stop.
3. If you have a gun, well..you know.  BANG. THUD.

So there you have it.  equal force plus one. That is how cops are trained to deal with assholes and still be able to make it home every night.

//the more you know.



Any sane understanding of "equal force" would take into account the wielder of the force. The force which can be brought to bear by a person is not purely a function of the weapon used. A small child using its fists can easily be subdued by a trained adult without strikes, let alone a beating with a baton or a tasering.

/there's an argument for tasering a knife-wielding child, but no persuasive argument starts by assuming a child with a knife is the equivalent of an adult with a knife
 
2014-08-08 11:08:07 PM  
The trolls are strong in this thread. It was a paring knife. A. Paring. Knife. The officers would have been in as much danger from a banana.
 
2014-08-08 11:09:00 PM  

Jack Lambert's Missing Teeth: Yes it's a real shame they don't have some sort of gas that would render a possible attacker harmless.

They should invent something like that.


If you're talking about pepper spray or mace.  That's good for taking the fight out of a big guy who doesn't have a weapon of any sort.

However, if he has a weapon, just because his eyes sting and skin and lungs are burning like hell, doesn't mean he won't swing wildly or pull the trigger randomly if it's a gun, and do so a LOT.  Put yourself in tight quarters with say, a wild tiger and spray it, see if it doesn't go even more batshiat crazy and attack anyhow.

A tase, on the other hand, is usually incapacitating.  Maybe you get one swing/trigger pull before they go down as a spastic reaction to the shock, but other than that, it is over.
/excluding the odd tale of someone on pcp or whatever who aren't affected in the least by a tase
 
2014-08-08 11:09:51 PM  
An 8 yr old with a knife is almost as dangerous as a 95 year old man with a shoehorn.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/04/02/suburban-cop-charged-in-death -o f-95-year-old-wwii-vet/
 
2014-08-08 11:12:31 PM  

omeganuepsilon: OgreMagi: If a cop can't take a knife away from an eight year old girl, he has not business being a cop.  I took a knife away from a 15 year old girl trying to stab me without anyone getting injured.  And I'm a skinny little computer geek, not some big scary cop who is supposedly trained in this shiat.

/it was my bipolar step-daughter

It's not as simple of a thing as you make it sound.  The minutiae of any given fighting event are what make the event and are very often very dicy(no pun intended).  Meaning unpredictable, especially when dealing with someone who is more or less feral.

You took a chance and got lucky.


No, I didn't get lucky.  I knew what the fark I was doing.
 
2014-08-08 11:13:19 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: "Four police officers in close proximity to an eight-year-old Indian child..."

Wow.


Yeah, but this is South Dakota. TFA misspells "Injun".
 
2014-08-08 11:13:22 PM  
At least she wasn't handcuffed in the back of a cruiser

/They also didn't shot her dog
 
2014-08-08 11:16:13 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: I don't care if she was eight or eighteen. She was obviously nutz, and had a blade


The chief didn't either-

"We can't control if the threat is 8 or 80," said Grandpre.

So, obviously, if a four year old has a knife, the appropriate response is to taze it. Three year old? Same response. Two year old? If he can choke out threatening sounding syllables, he's a threat with a knife. Don't even try to deflect with some BS "the kid wasn't four she was eight" because according to the quoted police representative, her age is IRRELEVANT. Get that? Her age is irrelevant.

I mean, by extension, police should taze anyone at any age who may be a threat. They can't control ANY threat, at ANY age, at ANY time. Because that's not what police do, apparently. I guess they're just revenue collectors now?

You cop defenders make me sick. Everyone who's saying that this was the right response, is the sky black or white in your world? Because there's obviously ONLY one right way, and one wrong way to handle every single situation. Everything. One or the other. Taze or kill. Kill or be killed.
 
2014-08-08 11:17:54 PM  

OgreMagi: omeganuepsilon: OgreMagi: If a cop can't take a knife away from an eight year old girl, he has not business being a cop.  I took a knife away from a 15 year old girl trying to stab me without anyone getting injured.  And I'm a skinny little computer geek, not some big scary cop who is supposedly trained in this shiat.

/it was my bipolar step-daughter

It's not as simple of a thing as you make it sound.  The minutiae of any given fighting event are what make the event and are very often very dicy(no pun intended).  Meaning unpredictable, especially when dealing with someone who is more or less feral.

You took a chance and got lucky.

No, I didn't get lucky.  I knew what the fark I was doing.


AKA you were an adult willing and able to take an eating utensil from a small girl
 
2014-08-08 11:18:46 PM  

Yogimus: biatches gotta learn.


this.
 
2014-08-08 11:21:09 PM  

deadsanta: The trolls are strong in this thread. It was a paring knife. A. Paring. Knife. The officers would have been in as much danger from a banana.


i1079.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-08 11:26:48 PM  

OgreMagi: omeganuepsilon: OgreMagi: If a cop can't take a knife away from an eight year old girl, he has not business being a cop.  I took a knife away from a 15 year old girl trying to stab me without anyone getting injured.  And I'm a skinny little computer geek, not some big scary cop who is supposedly trained in this shiat.

/it was my bipolar step-daughter

It's not as simple of a thing as you make it sound.  The minutiae of any given fighting event are what make the event and are very often very dicy(no pun intended).  Meaning unpredictable, especially when dealing with someone who is more or less feral.

You took a chance and got lucky.

No, I didn't get lucky.  I knew what the fark I was doing.


But if you had a taser on your hip, the situation probably would have been resolved with less risk to yourself and required less effort.

/and she might be dead because of an undiagnosed heart defect
//Police mostly just want to go home at the end of their shift alive and well. That doesn't mean they give a shiat if other people do, though.
 
2014-08-08 11:27:34 PM  
parenting 101...kids don't play with knives.

and when they do, it is called bad parenting, so, no money for you and be happy that they don't take your kid away because you think this (knife thing) is ok

/i am sure we will hear more about this kid, i bet the next is killing animals.
 
2014-08-08 11:28:19 PM  
Isn't anyone going to hip Lsherm?
 
2014-08-08 11:29:59 PM  

Lsherm: The Bush administration transferred at least seven detainees into Qaddafi's control, knowing full well that he was a murderer, a tyrant, and a sponsor of terrorism. The U.K. took the lead in al-Saadi's case, but CIA agents were complicit in her treatment. If you'd helped kidnap a 12-year-old girl and delivered her to the henchmen of a Libyan dictator, what would you do to prevent your shameful, embarrass deed from being made public? If given a black pen and the opportunity to ink over the official record, would you?

I'm not defending rendition, nor denying that the CIA is responsible for quite a lot of it, but this is a classic case of misdirection.  He mentions Bush, the headline includes the CIA, but this particular case was arranged by MI6. Note the entire article, absent that one line, actually mentions that.


Ok I'll do it.
Mr. Lsherm? I think you got the wrong thread.
Respectfully, slotz
 
2014-08-08 11:36:22 PM  
But anyway yeah, the taser was not justified. A paring knife? In an 8 year old girl's hand? And you can't disarm? Really? They could have just rushed her and pinned her. I'm gonna ask my cop friend about this. Seems ridiculous.
 
2014-08-08 11:43:37 PM  

slotz: Lsherm: The Bush administration transferred at least seven detainees into Qaddafi's control, knowing full well that he was a murderer, a tyrant, and a sponsor of terrorism. The U.K. took the lead in al-Saadi's case, but CIA agents were complicit in her treatment. If you'd helped kidnap a 12-year-old girl and delivered her to the henchmen of a Libyan dictator, what would you do to prevent your shameful, embarrass deed from being made public? If given a black pen and the opportunity to ink over the official record, would you?

I'm not defending rendition, nor denying that the CIA is responsible for quite a lot of it, but this is a classic case of misdirection.  He mentions Bush, the headline includes the CIA, but this particular case was arranged by MI6. Note the entire article, absent that one line, actually mentions that.

Ok I'll do it.
Mr. Lsherm? I think you got the wrong thread.
Respectfully, slotz


Thank you, I shall put it in the appropriate one.
 
2014-08-08 11:44:36 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: I don't care if she was eight or eighteen. She was obviously nutz, and had a blade. If you think for one second any officer would try to get close enough to mace, or get close enough to strike with a nightstick, you know NOTHING about police training, and have obviously never been one, and have no idea what you're talking about. Knives are 100 times worse than a bullet. They can lay you open, make you bleed out if something is severed (much more so than a tiny bullet). Bullets make tiny little holes, and the chances that a major artery or vein is severed is much smaller than if someone slashes you with a blade. Don't believe me? fine. Look it up. If you are willing to grapple with someone who is waving a blade at you, you are an idiot, and have no business being a police officer. As i said in a previous post, they were WELL within their rights to shoot her ass. But I'm glad they deployed the taser, as that is what is intended for. Takes the suspect down with little / no lasting damage. But please, continue your "OMG SHE WAS JUST EIGHT...THINK OF THE CHILDREN" misinformed / untrained rants. They are nothing if not amusing.


If you think bullets only "make tiny little holes," you must not be a cop either, or you're a remarkably ignorant one. Bullets can wreak enormous internal damage as they tumble and make their way thru tissue and bone, following a sometimes circuitous route.
 
2014-08-08 11:45:31 PM  
www.southdacola.com
 
2014-08-08 11:53:18 PM  
So the cops can't control any situation? Sounds like they need some training.
 
2014-08-09 12:05:51 AM  
media.washtimes.com

When you see these armed miscreants staring at you all day at the range or training facility you dont leave those images there....everyone you see winds up looking like that.
 
2014-08-09 12:17:47 AM  
You couldn't have just booted her in the head?
 
2014-08-09 12:20:36 AM  
Good. Kids gotta learn somehow.
 
2014-08-09 12:31:35 AM  
If you fail at raising your kids, the world will do it for you, and you don't get to biatch at how it is done.
 
2014-08-09 12:34:30 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: The woman, Dawn Stenstrom, is seeking compensatory and punitive damages for the incident, in which four police officers subdued the young girl, who was wielding a knife -


/Nice try, but your screaming psycho crotch fruit was brandishing a blade. You're lucky the cop just tazed her, and didn't shoot her up. But even if he had, you would have sued then as well. You don't think a little kid can fark up an adult with a knife? Ya, you're gonna lose this one. Take your bullshiat lawsuit and your scumbag hack lawyer somewhere else to cash in on your crazy spawn.


2/10
 
2014-08-09 12:40:03 AM  

omeganuepsilon: Jack Lambert's Missing Teeth: Yes it's a real shame they don't have some sort of gas that would render a possible attacker harmless.

They should invent something like that.

If you're talking about pepper spray or mace.  That's good for taking the fight out of a big guy who doesn't have a weapon of any sort.

However, if he has a weapon, just because his eyes sting and skin and lungs are burning like hell, doesn't mean he won't swing wildly or pull the trigger randomly if it's a gun, and do so a LOT.  Put yourself in tight quarters with say, a wild tiger and spray it, see if it doesn't go even more batshiat crazy and attack anyhow.

A tase, on the other hand, is usually incapacitating.  Maybe you get one swing/trigger pull before they go down as a spastic reaction to the shock, but other than that, it is over.
/excluding the odd tale of someone on pcp or whatever who aren't affected in the least by a tase


Uh tiger? Well do you have his leg?
/shiatwit
// obscure?
 
2014-08-09 01:22:28 AM  

OgreMagi: omeganuepsilon: OgreMagi: If a cop can't take a knife away from an eight year old girl, he has not business being a cop.  I took a knife away from a 15 year old girl trying to stab me without anyone getting injured.  And I'm a skinny little computer geek, not some big scary cop who is supposedly trained in this shiat.

/it was my bipolar step-daughter

It's not as simple of a thing as you make it sound.  The minutiae of any given fighting event are what make the event and are very often very dicy(no pun intended).  Meaning unpredictable, especially when dealing with someone who is more or less feral.

You took a chance and got lucky.

No, I didn't get lucky.  I knew what the fark I was doing.


media.247sports.com
 
2014-08-09 02:57:58 AM  
Ever try to take away something from a 8 year old?  They are like farking monkeys.  I feel sorry for the kid, but at least she didn't get a dozen bullet holes in her.
 
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  4. Click here to submit a link.

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