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(ESPN)   "That means the world to me, everything I went through," says Ray Rice of pre-season applause from fans. And by "everything I went through," he means "beating my girlfriend unconscious and dragging her limp body out of an elevator"   (espn.go.com) divider line 61
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2014-08-08 08:46:32 AM  
What. A gigantic. Douchebag.
 
2014-08-08 09:37:00 AM  
And that, folks, is how we really feel about domestic/dating violence in this country: not much.
 
2014-08-08 09:56:26 AM  
EABOD, asshole.
 
2014-08-08 10:41:17 AM  
Yeah, it's not like he's taking personal responsibility or anything. Oh wait: "It's a lot of respect that I have to go out there and earn because of the position that I put myself in."

He farked up, in a major way that is, frankly, incomprehensible to me. If you don't want to forgive him for that, that is completely understandable, I'm not sure I do. But his contrition does seem legit.
 
2014-08-08 10:52:08 AM  
So fans of Ray Rice appreciate a good thrashing when your woman gets out of line.

Nice.
 
2014-08-08 10:53:19 AM  
This is why sports fans can't have nice things
 
2014-08-08 10:54:30 AM  

TheNewJesus: This is why sports fans can't have nice things


Baltimore

/ftfy
 
2014-08-08 10:54:46 AM  
Hope the dude breaks his leg
 
2014-08-08 10:56:26 AM  

SmackLT: What. A gigantic. Douchebag.


Come on.

He's only like 5'3".
 
2014-08-08 10:58:20 AM  

The Muthaship: SmackLT: What. A gigantic. Douchebag.

Come on.

He's only like 5'3".


His douchebaggery is 6'4", though
 
2014-08-08 11:01:10 AM  
They should have Ray Rice fight a UFC fighter. Any of them (except maybe the women) would dismantle him with ease
 
2014-08-08 11:02:04 AM  
Were the women applauding too? The expectation of 4 yards per carry whitewashes many felonies in the NFL.
 
kab
2014-08-08 11:03:03 AM  

factoryconnection: And that, folks, is how we really feel about domestic/dating violence in this country: not much.


People are willing to overlook all sorts of unsavory behavior for the sake of sports.
 
2014-08-08 11:08:00 AM  
"I owe my best to these fans for giving me that kind of ovation. I'm looking forward to giving them the best effort that I can every week throughout the season."

Mrs. Rice better steer clear of any trips in an elevator with Mr. Rice because, Mr. Rice is going to be trying to give the fans his best effort every week.
 
2014-08-08 11:09:57 AM  
His wife doesn't have a problem with it, so why do you?
 
2014-08-08 11:20:34 AM  

doubled99: His wife doesn't have a problem with it, so why do you?


http://www.hiddenhurt.co.uk/why_domestic_abuse_victims_stay.html

Educate yourself.
 
2014-08-08 11:28:09 AM  

kab: factoryconnection: And that, folks, is how we really feel about domestic/dating violence in this country: not much.

People are willing to overlook all sorts of unsavory behavior for the sake of sports.


People are willing to do this for the sake of well, anything they like.

See:
Roman Polanski
Woody Allen
Michael Jackson
Chris Brown

Or, hell, any number of f*cked up authors.

But let's always pretend it's "sports" because you don't like them.
 
2014-08-08 11:32:20 AM  

IAmRight: But let's always pretend it's "sports" because you don't like them.


Do the respective industries in which they ply their trades encourage or even require playwrights, movies directors, musicians and actors to take drugs that make them bigger, stronger, faster and more prone to violent outbursts?
 
2014-08-08 11:35:49 AM  

doubled99: His wife doesn't have a problem with it, so why do you?


DAMN STRAIGHT.


WARRIOR'S WIFE CODE

 
2014-08-08 11:39:56 AM  

IAmRight: People are willing to do this for the sake of well, anything they like.

See:
Roman Polanski
Woody Allen
Michael Jackson


Looking at your list, it's interesting what is and is not forgivable/excusable/deniable, because those three were all charged with pederasty of one sort or another, and still have fans to come to their defense, while Jerry Sandusky or Gary Glitter or OJ Simpson don't.

It looks like if it's not murder (OJ, Aaron Hernandez), and it only happened once (Polanski), or if it can be flatly denied (Allen, Jackson) you're okay, but if you are a serial offender (Sandusky, Glitter) it's too much.

I don't know of people who forgive Chris Brown, though.
 
2014-08-08 11:40:06 AM  

The Muthaship: IAmRight: But let's always pretend it's "sports" because you don't like them.

Do the respective industries in which they ply their trades encourage or even require playwrights, movies directors, musicians and actors to take drugs that make them bigger, stronger, faster and more prone to violent outbursts?


They encourage use of copious amounts of drugs, yes. Alcohol is involved in far more violent outbursts than steroids are, and is encouraged damn near everywhere. It's pretty damn popular among writers.
 
2014-08-08 11:41:24 AM  

kab: factoryconnection: And that, folks, is how we really feel about domestic/dating violence in this country: not much.

People are willing to overlook all sorts of unsavory behavior for the sake of sports


the spread.
 
2014-08-08 11:43:02 AM  

nmrsnr: IAmRight: People are willing to do this for the sake of well, anything they like.

See:
Roman Polanski
Woody Allen
Michael Jackson

Looking at your list, it's interesting what is and is not forgivable/excusable/deniable, because those three were all charged with pederasty of one sort or another, and still have fans to come to their defense, while Jerry Sandusky or Gary Glitter or OJ Simpson don't.

It looks like if it's not murder (OJ, Aaron Hernandez), and it only happened once (Polanski), or if it can be flatly denied (Allen, Jackson) you're okay, but if you are a serial offender (Sandusky, Glitter) it's too much.

I don't know of people who forgive Chris Brown, though.


Oh, there are. There are people who defend/will overlook any damn thing.

I had to go with the most well-known and vile ones because I really don't pay attention to that sh*t.

At least I don't pretend to and go into entertainment threads and talk about how entertainment culture is so horrible.
 
2014-08-08 11:44:41 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: doubled99: His wife doesn't have a problem with it, so why do you?

WARRIOR'S WIFE CODE


Got a guilty chuckle out of me. Classic.
 
2014-08-08 11:45:48 AM  

nmrsnr: I don't know of people who forgive Chris Brown, though.


Dude still gets air play. That's more than the Dixie Chicks got.
 
2014-08-08 11:47:37 AM  
Baltimore Ravens.

A douchebag team for a douchebag city.  Always.
 
2014-08-08 11:48:24 AM  

The Muthaship: IAmRight: But let's always pretend it's "sports" because you don't like them.

Do the respective industries in which they ply their trades encourage or even require playwrights, movies directors, musicians and actors to take drugs that make them bigger, stronger, faster and more prone to violent outbursts?


Cocaine is a helluva drug.
 
2014-08-08 11:51:41 AM  
This guy makes Kobe Bryant look like Kurt Warner.
 
2014-08-08 11:59:16 AM  
I'm surprised I haven't been bombarded by an obnoxious Buzzfeed ad featuring "A dozen other atrocities Baltimore Ravens Fans Gave Standing-o's To. #11 will shock you!"
 
2014-08-08 12:02:25 PM  

nmrsnr: Yeah, it's not like he's taking personal responsibility or anything. Oh wait: "It's a lot of respect that I have to go out there and earn because of the position that I put myself in."

He farked up, in a major way that is, frankly, incomprehensible to me. If you don't want to forgive him for that, that is completely understandable, I'm not sure I do. But his contrition does seem legit.


I don't disagree, but I think Chris Brown lowered the bar so much that ANY indication of remorse will give the appearance of sainthood.

/not a Ravens fan
//don't even like Poe
///fark Chris Brown with a badger strapped to a cactus.
 
2014-08-08 12:03:22 PM  

This Looks Fun: Jim from Saint Paul: doubled99: His wife doesn't have a problem with it, so why do you?

WARRIOR'S WIFE CODE

Got a guilty chuckle out of me. Classic.


It's funny because he said it to the actual douche that coined that phrase
 
2014-08-08 12:08:18 PM  

nmrsnr: Yeah, it's not like he's taking personal responsibility or anything. Oh wait: "It's a lot of respect that I have to go out there and earn because of the position that I put myself in."

He farked up, in a major way that is, frankly, incomprehensible to me. If you don't want to forgive him for that, that is completely understandable, I'm not sure I do. But his contrition does seem legit.


Ray-Rice-a-Roni,
The Sans Contrition treat!
 
2014-08-08 12:10:27 PM  
Rape Rice
 
2014-08-08 12:12:47 PM  

IAmRight: But let's always pretend it's "sports" because you don't like them.


I don't think anyone is saying it's exclusive to sports fandom, it's just that we're on the sports tab, thus we're talking about sports.

That is to say, you're not wrong about it happening in the entertainment industry as well, and one could argue that sports falls under the umbrella of the entertainment industry, but talking about actors, singers, and writers isn't required to discuss this topic.
 
2014-08-08 12:13:22 PM  

IAmRight: nmrsnr: IAmRight: People are willing to do this for the sake of well, anything they like.

See:
Roman Polanski
Woody Allen
Michael Jackson

Looking at your list, it's interesting what is and is not forgivable/excusable/deniable, because those three were all charged with pederasty of one sort or another, and still have fans to come to their defense, while Jerry Sandusky or Gary Glitter or OJ Simpson don't.

It looks like if it's not murder (OJ, Aaron Hernandez), and it only happened once (Polanski), or if it can be flatly denied (Allen, Jackson) you're okay, but if you are a serial offender (Sandusky, Glitter) it's too much.

I don't know of people who forgive Chris Brown, though.

Oh, there are. There are people who defend/will overlook any damn thing.

I had to go with the most well-known and vile ones because I really don't pay attention to that sh*t.


To be fair, though, you are known to attack people who choose to do the opposite.   Those who make a moral decision to give up their support of a team based on that team's allegiance to a vile person are worthy of your contempt for some reason that I'm sure to you is not doublethink at all.
 
2014-08-08 12:14:26 PM  

The Muthaship: IAmRight: But let's always pretend it's "sports" because you don't like them.

Do the respective industries in which they ply their trades encourage or even require playwrights, movies directors, musicians and actors to take drugs that make them bigger, stronger, faster and more prone to violent outbursts?


Which drugs taken by athletes make them more prone to violent outbursts? Are we talking about alcohol, the most violence-inducing drug of all time?
 
2014-08-08 12:58:10 PM  
say what you want about the man, but it would have been ungentlemanly for him to leave his lady in that elevator alone unconscious where something bad could have happened.
 
2014-08-08 12:59:21 PM  

AdmirableSnackbar: To be fair, though, you are known to attack people who choose to do the opposite.   Those who make a moral decision to give up their support of a team based on that team's allegiance to a vile person are worthy of your contempt for some reason that I'm sure to you is not doublethink at all.


Yeah, when you choose to root for a serial rapist instead and claim a moral high ground, it's laughable.
 
2014-08-08 01:00:36 PM  
His wife doesn't have a problem with it, so why do you?

WARRIOR'S WIFE CODE


exactly

 
2014-08-08 01:00:38 PM  
The reason she's sticking around...
www.auckland.ac.nz
 
2014-08-08 01:01:33 PM  

RedZoneTuba: Ray-Rice-a-Roni,
The Sans Contrition treat!


That is fookin' brilliant!
 
2014-08-08 01:02:19 PM  
I used to be a Ray Rice fan. My wife went to Rutgers and I used to follow the Scarlet Knights. During Rice's first year there I was telling everyone to watch this kid-- he was going to be NFL material. When he entered the draft I decided I'd root for whatever team he ended up playing for... which sucked because it turns out I had to become a Ravens fan. Anyhow, I tossed his jersey and now I need to find a new team to root for. As a resident of the Boston area, I think I'll probably go with the Patriots because they have so many Rutgers players these days.
 
2014-08-08 01:20:27 PM  

IAmRight: AdmirableSnackbar: To be fair, though, you are known to attack people who choose to do the opposite.   Those who make a moral decision to give up their support of a team based on that team's allegiance to a vile person are worthy of your contempt for some reason that I'm sure to you is not doublethink at all.

Yeah, when you choose to root for a serial rapist instead and claim a moral high ground, it's laughable.


When you learn to tell the difference between he said/she said allegations and crimes with actual tangible evidence you're probably going to have an aneurysm.  Anyway we all know you're just going to use selective criteria and latch onto whatever makes you feel good about what you choose to support, which is exactly what you're decrying above.  In other words, at least you've found a way to feel (emphasis on feel) superior to both groups.
 
2014-08-08 01:21:25 PM  

nmrsnr: It looks like if it's not murder (OJ, Aaron Hernandez), and it only happened once (Polanski), or if it can be flatly denied (Allen, Jackson) you're okay, but if you are a serial offender (Sandusky, Glitter) it's too much.


People can believe that someone makes a one-time mistake, and in fact that's probably why Sandusky and others like him can get away with building a network of victims and unwitting suckers to cover for them.  But once the whole pyramid of betrayal, abuse, coercion and of course crimes against your victims and such comes to light there is no fooling yourself any more.

Unless you're the perpetrator, that is.  Jerry Sandusky thinks he's innocent, but of course someone that thought it was okay to adopt a kid just to have an in-house victim would be unremorseful.
 
2014-08-08 01:43:13 PM  

factoryconnection: Unless you're the perpetrator, that is.  Jerry Sandusky thinks he's innocent, but of course someone that thought it was okay to adopt a kid just to have an in-house victim would be unremorseful.


Wait, I thought this thread was about Ray Rice, not Sandusky.  Are we comparing Ray Rice to Sandusky now?
 
2014-08-08 01:47:30 PM  
I'm not surprised that people are getting outraged without regard for what actually happened

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-05-24/sports/bal-attorney-sugg es ts-ray-rice-retaliated-after-being-struck-first-in-domestic-violence-i ncident-20140524_1_ray-rice-janay-palmer-michael-diamondstein

Both Janay Palmer, who's now Janay Rice, and Ray Rice initially were charged with simple assault-domestic violence. Her charge was later dismissed by prosecutors, and Rice's case was upgraded to the more serious charge of felony aggravated assault after it was reviewed.

"His wife was arrested initially as well," Diamondstein said. "And the prosecutors, for whatever reasons - I can't speak for the prosecution - they decided to drop the charges against Janay and simply go prosecute Ray."



But please, do go on and tell me how there is no gender bias in the court system.
 
2014-08-08 01:58:12 PM  

degenerate-afro: factoryconnection: Unless you're the perpetrator, that is.  Jerry Sandusky thinks he's innocent, but of course someone that thought it was okay to adopt a kid just to have an in-house victim would be unremorseful.

Wait, I thought this thread was about Ray Rice, not Sandusky.  Are we comparing Ray Rice to Sandusky now?


Well, they both like to take smaller, weaker people to pound town - they just find it on different maps.

/Srsly, though, Sandusky is way, way worse and there really is no comparison.
 
2014-08-08 02:26:05 PM  
Mrs. Rice's legs are going to look FANTASTIC after taking all those stairs.
 
2014-08-08 02:31:19 PM  
I like how everyone ignores the FACT that they were BOTH charged with assault. Clearly there was more on the inside elevator tape that they police and commissioner didn't like.
 
2014-08-08 02:59:03 PM  

Bmore O's: I like how everyone ignores the FACT that they were BOTH charged with assault. Clearly there was more on the inside elevator tape that they police and commissioner didn't like.


I was once accused of misogyny because I dared to state that even if his wife was swinging at him, I doubt she could do any harm to him.

Honestly, even if she was using something like a shoe to swing at him, it shouldn't have been a problem.  Yes, you can guess that she was likely the initial aggressor based on what we know, but he's strong enough that he should be able to neutralize the situation without having to render her unconscious.

No, unlike a lot of the people in this thread, I'm not saying he goes home every night to beat on his wife, however I don't believe that excuses the situation.
 
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