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(Washington Times)   Russia penetrates US 16 times, doesn't buy dinner first   (washingtontimes.com ) divider line
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2014-08-07 04:07:36 PM  
I don't get this. Obama has nukes and doesn't even use them? What the hell? We should be knee deep in dead irradiated Russians by now, having suffered at most 60 or 70 million casualties.
 
2014-08-07 04:30:37 PM  
We shouldn't stand for this.  We need to make a hollow gesture that we absolutely not prepared to backup.
 
2014-08-07 04:38:52 PM  
Help us Sarah Palin
you're our only hope.
 
2014-08-07 04:43:25 PM  
A sternly worded memo is being drafted as we speak
 
2014-08-07 05:05:06 PM  
Meh, we penetrate too.

It's tit for tat.
 
2014-08-07 05:19:14 PM  
Well, it sort of makes sense.

 With all the recent sanctions in place the Russians aren't selling as much fuel to Europe as they once were so why burn some of that surplus by sending bombers off on pointless little joy runs?

If Pootin' thinks this is the kind of thing that will shake the west's resolve he's got another think coming.
 
2014-08-07 05:27:13 PM  
The Moonie Times reporting based off the Washington Free Beacon which is based off the word of "US defense officials"?


cdn.emgn.com
 
2014-08-07 05:28:28 PM  
Oh noes, Nome, AK might be in danger! THE US SCRIMSHAW INDUSTRY IS IN PERIL!!!

/terrible peril
 
2014-08-07 05:29:42 PM  

gopher321: Oh noes, Nome, AK might be in danger! THE US SCRIMSHAW INDUSTRY IS IN PERIL!!!

/terrible peril


I am pretty sure we outlawed scrimshaw.
 
2014-08-07 05:33:13 PM  
Just the tip.
 
2014-08-07 05:38:20 PM  

grumpfuff: The Moonie Times


i340.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-07 05:49:55 PM  
They're gonna get that spying Palin if it's the last thing they do
 
2014-08-07 06:31:05 PM  
Dorothy Mantooth was a saint!
 
2014-08-07 06:39:08 PM  

bdub77: I don't get this. Obama has nukes and doesn't even use them? What the hell? We should be knee deep in dead irradiated Russians by now, having suffered at most 60 or 70 million casualties.


i1079.photobucket.com
 
2014-08-07 07:20:21 PM  
We're just finding out about this now?  I figure Sarah Palin would have noticed it.
 
2014-08-07 07:27:39 PM  

serial_crusher: We're just finding out about this now?  I figure Sarah Palin would have noticed it.


Maybe she turned the rocking chair on her porch round the other way.
 
2014-08-07 08:03:01 PM  
How scared should we be? Is Obama a spineless empty suit this week, or a warmongering dictator?
 
2014-08-07 08:05:03 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: A sternly worded memo is being drafted as we speak


That makes him at least one step ahead of Romney, doesn't it?
 
2014-08-07 08:05:33 PM  
It's the Washington Times, folks. Might as well be a story in Weekly World News at the grocery checkout.
 
2014-08-07 08:08:27 PM  

EvilEgg: gopher321: Oh noes, Nome, AK might be in danger! THE US SCRIMSHAW INDUSTRY IS IN PERIL!!!

/terrible peril

I am pretty sure we outlawed scrimshaw.


Scrimshaw is not illegal, the importation of whalebone is.
 
2014-08-07 08:09:41 PM  
Well it's a good thing we spent trillions of dollars and over a decade training the vast majority of our military to fight a pointless insurgency war instead of defending us against a real (however unlikely) attack by an actual nation with a legitimate military. Whoever could have guessed that spending a 13 years focusing our military training, technology and budget towards everything  but actually defending the nation might bite us in the ass.
 
2014-08-07 08:14:05 PM  
Washington Times says Russia is flying in US airspace...... Seems legit, let's check other sources.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/world/a sia/russian-bomber-flights/

"The Russian planes have stayed in international airspace, and such flights are not unusual, but the increase has U.S. commanders keeping a wary eye."

So in other words Washington Times is wrong and Russia isn't really doing anything abnormal.

Nothing to see here.
 
2014-08-07 08:19:36 PM  

Fantasta Potamus: Washington Times says Russia is flying in US airspace...... Seems legit, let's check other sources.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/world/a sia/russian-bomber-flights/

"The Russian planes have stayed in international airspace, and such flights are not unusual, but the increase has U.S. commanders keeping a wary eye."

So in other words Washington Times is wrong and Russia isn't really doing anything abnormal.

Nothing to see here.



dealbreaker.com

The story is on the front page of Drudge Report.  At this point, it will take a life of its own, regardless of what the facts are.
 
2014-08-07 08:24:24 PM  
Even if this is true...so what? Putin did serious damage to Russia's economy with his shenanigans in Crimea. Provoking an all-out war with a global superpower, in Russia's current state, would be completely suicidal.
 
2014-08-07 08:25:06 PM  

taurusowner: Well it's a good thing we spent trillions of dollars and over a decade training the vast majority of our military to fight a pointless insurgency war instead of defending us against a real (however unlikely) attack by an actual nation with a legitimate military. Whoever could have guessed that spending a 13 years focusing our military training, technology and budget towards everything  but actually defending the nation might bite us in the ass.


You're freaking out over nothing.
 
2014-08-07 08:27:49 PM  

Fantasta Potamus: Washington Times says Russia is flying in US airspace...... Seems legit, let's check other sources.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/world/a sia/russian-bomber-flights/

"The Russian planes have stayed in international airspace, and such flights are not unusual, but the increase has U.S. commanders keeping a wary eye."

So in other words Washington Times is wrong and Russia isn't really doing anything abnormal.

Nothing to see here.


Given how accurate CNN has become as of late, this calls into question whether these bombers even exist or this U.S. place.
 
2014-08-07 08:32:13 PM  

taurusowner: Well it's a good thing we spent trillions of dollars and over a decade training the vast majority of our military to fight a pointless insurgency war instead of defending us against a real (however unlikely) attack by an actual nation with a legitimate military. Whoever could have guessed that spending a 13 years focusing our military training, technology and budget towards everything  but actually defending the nation might bite us in the ass.


Dude - get a grip on your towel. There is no real story here. US and the Ruskis flirt with each other's airspace all the time - and those old prop-driven bear bombers are not what they would come after us with if they were really coming after us.
They have ICBMs, cruise missiles, and far more sophisticated aircraft they would use in a real attack.
 
2014-08-07 08:33:08 PM  
So what?   They aren't going to bomb us.
 
2014-08-07 08:33:55 PM  
Damned Ruskies trying to chemtrail us. Send up some of our fighters to combat this new chemtrail threat. Chemtrail.
 
2014-08-07 08:36:04 PM  

jso2897: taurusowner: Well it's a good thing we spent trillions of dollars and over a decade training the vast majority of our military to fight a pointless insurgency war instead of defending us against a real (however unlikely) attack by an actual nation with a legitimate military. Whoever could have guessed that spending a 13 years focusing our military training, technology and budget towards everything  but actually defending the nation might bite us in the ass.

Dude - get a grip on your towel. There is no real story here. US and the Ruskis flirt with each other's airspace all the time - and those old prop-driven bear bombers are not what they would come after us with if they were really coming after us.
They have ICBMs, cruise missiles, and far more sophisticated aircraft they would use in a real attack.


Wait...was that supposed to show that I'm wrong? We have in fact gear almost our entire military towards the goal of fighting insurgencies on the other side of the world and have devoted almost zero training or resources towards fighting other actual militaries. Well those other nations who have real militaries didn't vanish. And now we can't even remember how to fight them. Whether this one particular specific story is a big deal or not is entirely irrelevant.
 
2014-08-07 08:36:06 PM  
WHY WON'T HE JUST LEAD!!!!!
 
2014-08-07 08:40:48 PM  

taurusowner: jso2897: taurusowner: Well it's a good thing we spent trillions of dollars and over a decade training the vast majority of our military to fight a pointless insurgency war instead of defending us against a real (however unlikely) attack by an actual nation with a legitimate military. Whoever could have guessed that spending a 13 years focusing our military training, technology and budget towards everything  but actually defending the nation might bite us in the ass.

Dude - get a grip on your towel. There is no real story here. US and the Ruskis flirt with each other's airspace all the time - and those old prop-driven bear bombers are not what they would come after us with if they were really coming after us.
They have ICBMs, cruise missiles, and far more sophisticated aircraft they would use in a real attack.

Wait...was that supposed to show that I'm wrong? We have in fact gear almost our entire military towards the goal of fighting insurgencies on the other side of the world and have devoted almost zero training or resources towards fighting other actual militaries. Well those other nations who have real militaries didn't vanish. And now we can't even remember how to fight them. Whether this one particular specific story is a big deal or not is entirely irrelevant.


No, I understand what you are saying - I just can't imagine why you think it. And since you seem to feel that it stands on it's own as a bare assertion, I'm guessing I'll be left to wonder.
 
2014-08-07 08:40:59 PM  
Sarah plain was right all along...
 
2014-08-07 08:41:37 PM  
Remember people, the Washington Times last changed owners for the princely sum of $1.00
 
2014-08-07 08:41:43 PM  

pivazena: Sarah plain was right all along...


Plain and simple.
 
2014-08-07 08:43:27 PM  
 
2014-08-07 08:47:18 PM  

wxboy: Meanwhile...


So what's you farking point?  We're the goddamn US of farking A, and we'll fly where we goddamn well please.  Iffn they don't like it, we can bomb their soshalist asses back into the stone age!!!!  That's for Lindesfarne, biatches!!!

/Was trying to say it different than "It's ok when we do it"
 
2014-08-07 08:47:59 PM  

Troy McClure: So what?   They aren't going to bomb us.


This. A full blown war between the US and Russia is not winnable by either party.
Even with the most sophisticated defenses, a real nuclear exchange between the two would result in successful delivery of somewhere between 30 and 60 percent of ordinance launched - and that would be more than enough to pretty much end civilization.
 
2014-08-07 08:48:36 PM  
So the article title says bombers, the article states they are 60's era Bears configured for electronic survailence and the picture is of a 80's Sukoi fighter bomber. Wow there are deft military analysts on that team.
 
2014-08-07 08:52:10 PM  
Maybe Putin should ask Kim what to do next.
 
2014-08-07 08:53:34 PM  

EvilEgg: We shouldn't stand for this.  We need to make a hollow gesture that we absolutely not prepared to backup.


Give John Kerry time.  He's good at that part.
 
2014-08-07 08:54:23 PM  

taurusowner: We have in fact gear almost our entire military towards the goal of fighting insurgencies on the other side of the world and have devoted almost zero training or resources towards fighting other actual militaries.


All those Red Flag exercises didn't actually happen? Why can't we train for more than one style of warfare at a time? You said it was a fact. Show us.
 
2014-08-07 08:59:25 PM  

taurusowner: jso2897: taurusowner: Well it's a good thing we spent trillions of dollars and over a decade training the vast majority of our military to fight a pointless insurgency war instead of defending us against a real (however unlikely) attack by an actual nation with a legitimate military. Whoever could have guessed that spending a 13 years focusing our military training, technology and budget towards everything  but actually defending the nation might bite us in the ass.

Dude - get a grip on your towel. There is no real story here. US and the Ruskis flirt with each other's airspace all the time - and those old prop-driven bear bombers are not what they would come after us with if they were really coming after us.
They have ICBMs, cruise missiles, and far more sophisticated aircraft they would use in a real attack.

Wait...was that supposed to show that I'm wrong? We have in fact gear almost our entire military towards the goal of fighting insurgencies on the other side of the world and have devoted almost zero training or resources towards fighting other actual militaries. Well those other nations who have real militaries didn't vanish. And now we can't even remember how to fight them. Whether this one particular specific story is a big deal or not is entirely irrelevant.


Who is them?

When did we last fight them or someone like them?
 
2014-08-07 09:01:46 PM  

LordJiro: Even if this is true...so what? Putin did serious damage to Russia's economy with his shenanigans in Crimea. Provoking an all-out war with a global superpower, in Russia's current state, would be completely suicidal.


Still has enough working nukes to ensure mutual destruction and take the rest of the world with us.
 
2014-08-07 09:01:49 PM  

taurusowner: jso2897: taurusowner: Well it's a good thing we spent trillions of dollars and over a decade training the vast majority of our military to fight a pointless insurgency war instead of defending us against a real (however unlikely) attack by an actual nation with a legitimate military. Whoever could have guessed that spending a 13 years focusing our military training, technology and budget towards everything  but actually defending the nation might bite us in the ass.

Dude - get a grip on your towel. There is no real story here. US and the Ruskis flirt with each other's airspace all the time - and those old prop-driven bear bombers are not what they would come after us with if they were really coming after us.
They have ICBMs, cruise missiles, and far more sophisticated aircraft they would use in a real attack.

Wait...was that supposed to show that I'm wrong? We have in fact gear almost our entire military towards the goal of fighting insurgencies on the other side of the world and have devoted almost zero training or resources towards fighting other actual militaries. Well those other nations who have real militaries didn't vanish. And now we can't even remember how to fight them. Whether this one particular specific story is a big deal or not is entirely irrelevant.


You know how I know you don't know anything about Army war doctrine?
 
2014-08-07 09:06:30 PM  
i.imgbox.com
 
2014-08-07 09:15:48 PM  
Russian pilots need to know they have a safe place to defect to and the Washington Times really should publish validating phrases that will allow them to bring the big planes without incident.
 
2014-08-07 09:17:12 PM  

jso2897: taurusowner: jso2897: taurusowner: Well it's a good thing we spent trillions of dollars and over a decade training the vast majority of our military to fight a pointless insurgency war instead of defending us against a real (however unlikely) attack by an actual nation with a legitimate military. Whoever could have guessed that spending a 13 years focusing our military training, technology and budget towards everything  but actually defending the nation might bite us in the ass.

Dude - get a grip on your towel. There is no real story here. US and the Ruskis flirt with each other's airspace all the time - and those old prop-driven bear bombers are not what they would come after us with if they were really coming after us.
They have ICBMs, cruise missiles, and far more sophisticated aircraft they would use in a real attack.

Wait...was that supposed to show that I'm wrong? We have in fact gear almost our entire military towards the goal of fighting insurgencies on the other side of the world and have devoted almost zero training or resources towards fighting other actual militaries. Well those other nations who have real militaries didn't vanish. And now we can't even remember how to fight them. Whether this one particular specific story is a big deal or not is entirely irrelevant.

No, I understand what you are saying - I just can't imagine why you think it. And since you seem to feel that it stands on it's own as a bare assertion, I'm guessing I'll be left to wonder.


His claim that we somehow don't remember how to fight 'actual militaries' is... well more than a little special.
 
2014-08-07 09:17:19 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: taurusowner: jso2897: taurusowner: Well it's a good thing we spent trillions of dollars and over a decade training the vast majority of our military to fight a pointless insurgency war instead of defending us against a real (however unlikely) attack by an actual nation with a legitimate military. Whoever could have guessed that spending a 13 years focusing our military training, technology and budget towards everything  but actually defending the nation might bite us in the ass.

Dude - get a grip on your towel. There is no real story here. US and the Ruskis flirt with each other's airspace all the time - and those old prop-driven bear bombers are not what they would come after us with if they were really coming after us.
They have ICBMs, cruise missiles, and far more sophisticated aircraft they would use in a real attack.

Wait...was that supposed to show that I'm wrong? We have in fact gear almost our entire military towards the goal of fighting insurgencies on the other side of the world and have devoted almost zero training or resources towards fighting other actual militaries. Well those other nations who have real militaries didn't vanish. And now we can't even remember how to fight them. Whether this one particular specific story is a big deal or not is entirely irrelevant.

Who is them?

When did we last fight them or someone like them?


You mean Trotsky's Red Army, what was left of the Red Army after Stalin's purges, the mythical "Red Army" that the CIA used to scare people with during the 50's, the pathetic dregs who the mujahideen fought to a standstill, or whatever is still in Russia now?

When was the last time we fought a "real" military? I guess...Vietnam? But before that, China, of course, in Korea. But the last time we fought a genuine pitched war with a Western military was, of course, WWII. And if we fight Russia again, it won't be like that. Nobody has ever won a land war in Russia, and only a fool would try (we are so screwed...). If we ever did go to war with Russia, it would be an air war, and probably a sub-based cruise- and nuclear-missile war.

People are idiots if they think the war colleges and Dept. of Defense--which has an invasion plan for CANADA, ffs--does not have a plan for handling Russia.
 
2014-08-07 09:20:11 PM  
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