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2014-08-07 02:48:34 PM  
I use the below to choose new passwords when it can be used.

http://xkcd.com/936/
 
2014-08-07 02:58:12 PM  
yes, use lastpass.com so all your passwords are in one convenient place to be stolen.
 
2014-08-07 03:26:57 PM  
IT consultant here.

If you're over burdened with money and you think that replacing the "e" and "i" with "3" and "1" within your last name is pretty smart idea, please email me your bank login ID.


/ expecting a black van with tinted windows to be hanging out my house pretty soon
 
2014-08-07 03:48:31 PM  

Serious Black: I use the below to choose new passwords when it can be used.

http://xkcd.com/936/


I have no luck with that method.
"Your password can not be more than 6 characters"
"Your password must contain at least 1 number or symbol"
"Your password must contain at least 1 capital letter"
"Your password must be at least 2 characters in Greek, Cyrillic, or Anglo-Saxon futhorc"
"Your password must contain some of those letters Dr. Seuss made up in that one book"

F*ck it.
 
2014-08-07 03:57:25 PM  

hi13760: IT consultant here.

If you're over burdened with money and you think that replacing the "e" and "i" with "3" and "1" within your last name is pretty smart idea, please email me your bank login ID.


/ expecting a black van with tinted windows to be hanging out my house pretty soon


do you really think that Flowers By Irene van has been delivering to the house across the street all week?
 
2014-08-07 04:52:12 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: "Your password can not be more than 6 characters"
"Your password must contain at least 1 number or symbol"
"Your password must contain at least 1 capital letter"


Yeah, I feel for you. For sites that want passwords like this, I have one single password like Abcd1234, which I reuse on every one of them farkers. My account was stolen? Well, that's YOUR problem, not mine! I don't care about it or you or your service.
 
2014-08-07 04:54:48 PM  
Um, subby? Do you realize how many truly stupid people there are in the world? Go google a list of the most popular passwords.
 
2014-08-07 04:56:07 PM  
I just use Correct Horse Battery Staple for all my passwords.
 
2014-08-07 04:56:33 PM  
Look at the bright side of the hacking. You got someone to go to now if you can't remember that porn site password you created when your wife was away visiting her mother six months ago.

Sorry. Prior sentence not conforming to Hemingway short choppy methodology. My bad.
 
2014-08-07 04:56:55 PM  
Passwords are fine, it's the security questions that annoy me. I've taken to setting them all to "fark you".

Name of first pet: fark you
Name of third grade teacher's second cousin: fark you

It'll be fun whenever I have to call support. "Sir, can you please tell me the name of your first girlfriend"... "Certainly! Fark you!
 
2014-08-07 04:57:35 PM  
Password rules make me farking angry.
Must be between 6 and 8 characters
Must have capital and lower case
Must have a number
Must have a symbol
Must be changed every 90 days
Shut up. If you would just let me use the password I want to use, nobody would ever even bother to crack it unless your crappy database got breached!
 
2014-08-07 05:04:45 PM  
Here you go, at least for your work password. We all know the IT department is going to get stupid with the password rules. The less significant the data breach you can cause, the more onerous the password requirements are, and vice-versa. For example, someone with my password could, potentially, destroy some rather important databases, so, naturally, I have pretty common-sense password requirements. It's how life in IT goes sometimes.

But, here's the trick, and it should work out fine for 95% of you. You make up a password that meets the requirements (at least 12 characters, 2 upper, 2 lower, 2 number, 2 special), and set it up like this:

aFqRlHpU(00)

Easy enough to remember, start at the end of a row, go 3 keys over and shift. And then your numbers and specials are at the end. Now, in 60 or 90 days, when it's time to switch your password, you have 2 options, depending on what the rules are for reusing characters. If you have to have 4 characters different than your last, you go

aFqRlHpU[11]

If that isn't enough, do it in the other order:

[11]aFqRlHpU

Keep the rhythm that works for you, and have a pretty secure password that's virtually impossible to forget. Parentheses are even, brackets are odd (or whatever), and maybe odd numbers are at the start. And never leave a post-it under your keyboard again.
 
2014-08-07 05:12:05 PM  

Serious Black: I use the below to choose new passwords when it can be used.

http://xkcd.com/936/


One of my users actually had "correcthorsebatterystaple" as his password. I just couldn't figure out what to say.
 
2014-08-07 05:14:00 PM  

Ghastly: I just use Correct Horse Battery Staple for all my passwords.


Well, my password is *************
/Thanks Fark filters!
 
2014-08-07 05:15:35 PM  

ManateeGag: yes, use lastpass.com so all your passwords are in one convenient place to be stolen.


This...

Or if you prefer visuals:

3.bp.blogspot.com

This
 
2014-08-07 05:18:09 PM  
imgs.xkcd.com
/oblig
 
2014-08-07 05:19:23 PM  
Just use 12345 like I do, I even use it on my luggage.
 
2014-08-07 05:22:13 PM  

ZeroPly: Serious Black: I use the below to choose new passwords when it can be used.

http://xkcd.com/936/

One of my users actually had "correcthorsebatterystaple" as his password. I just couldn't figure out what to say.


How about, "Hey, I can read your password, there's no hashing or encryption involved, so don't put anything you would use anywhere else, and maybe I should reconsider this whole 'password-protection' concept as it's not really protecting you or your data."
 
2014-08-07 05:25:20 PM  
I use combinations of words and numbers similar to what XKCD recommends, that use special characters. For example, a password may look like: Tacos4Everyone!

Has upper and lower, a number and a special character, is long enough, and is easy to remember.

/no, I have never actually used that password.
 
2014-08-07 05:25:37 PM  
My password is "incorrect"
 
2014-08-07 05:26:30 PM  

ZeroPly: One of my users actually had "correcthorsebatterystaple" as his password. I just couldn't figure out what to say.


You can read your users' passwords?!!

Err... Have you _warned_ them about it, at least?
 
2014-08-07 05:33:11 PM  

ManateeGag: yes, use lastpass.com so all your passwords are in one convenient place to be stolen.


Funny, I use LastPass, as do many people I know, and none of us have had our passwords compromised as a result.  I also have Grid Multifactor Authentication enabled, so if someone managed to figure out my master password, they'll have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get any of the passwords being stored.  I'm more worried about something like Heartbleed making my information vulnerable than I am someone hacking LastPass's website to get people's information.
 
2014-08-07 05:44:32 PM  

Coco LaFemme: ManateeGag: yes, use lastpass.com so all your passwords are in one convenient place to be stolen.

Funny, I use LastPass, as do many people I know, and none of us have had our passwords compromised as a result.  I also have Grid Multifactor Authentication enabled, so if someone managed to figure out my master password, they'll have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get any of the passwords being stored.  I'm more worried about something like Heartbleed making my information vulnerable than I am someone hacking LastPass's website to get people's information.


While it is correct that any technological weakness constitutes a major threat to IT security, it is still better practice not to introduce a new threat through the creation of a single point of failure like LastPass.
 
2014-08-07 05:45:23 PM  

Serious Black: I use the below to choose new passwords when it can be used.

http://xkcd.com/936/


I game I play (Guild Wars 2) has a password generator that links to that comic.
 
2014-08-07 06:05:31 PM  

Stephen_Falken: Coco LaFemme: ManateeGag: yes, use lastpass.com so all your passwords are in one convenient place to be stolen.

Funny, I use LastPass, as do many people I know, and none of us have had our passwords compromised as a result.  I also have Grid Multifactor Authentication enabled, so if someone managed to figure out my master password, they'll have to jump through a bunch of hoops to get any of the passwords being stored.  I'm more worried about something like Heartbleed making my information vulnerable than I am someone hacking LastPass's website to get people's information.

While it is correct that any technological weakness constitutes a major threat to IT security, it is still better practice not to introduce a new threat through the creation of a single point of failure like LastPass.


I dont actually use a service like that, but what if you leave of the first 2 or last 2 characters that are on every password? Easy to remember and nobody has more like than one password...especially not all of them...
Any thoughts?
 
2014-08-07 06:11:50 PM  
The password is always "swordfish".
 
2014-08-07 06:13:40 PM  

The Only Sane Man In Florida: Password rules make me farking angry.
Must be between 6 and 8 characters
Must have capital and lower case
Must have a number
Must have a symbol
Must be changed every 90 days
Shut up. If you would just let me use the password I want to use, nobody would ever even bother to crack it unless your crappy database got breached!


Holy shiat, this.

I use fave TV shows or movies (usually character names) as passwords. Replacing L's with 1 or O's with 0 and whatnot is a pain in the ass.
 
2014-08-07 06:49:30 PM  
[Fivedollarwrench.xkcd]
 
2014-08-07 07:10:03 PM  

Grahor: ZeroPly: One of my users actually had "correcthorsebatterystaple" as his password. I just couldn't figure out what to say.

You can read your users' passwords?!!

Err... Have you _warned_ them about it, at least?


Well, sure I can read them. When I need to log in as them, I send an email asking "what's your password", they send an email back with the password, I READ it, then I type it in and log in as them.
 
2014-08-07 07:48:48 PM  

ZeroPly: Grahor: ZeroPly: One of my users actually had "correcthorsebatterystaple" as his password. I just couldn't figure out what to say.

You can read your users' passwords?!!

Err... Have you _warned_ them about it, at least?

Well, sure I can read them. When I need to log in as them, I send an email asking "what's your password", they send an email back with the password, I READ it, then I type it in and log in as them.


notsureifserious.jpg
 
2014-08-07 09:16:12 PM  

Gonz: Keep the rhythm that works for you, and have a pretty secure password that's virtually impossible to forget. Parentheses are even, brackets are odd (or whatever), and maybe odd numbers are at the start. And never leave a post-it under your keyboard again.


Challenge accepted.


/ I'll probably never get Alzeimer's
// it's got nothing to work with
 
2014-08-07 09:27:23 PM  
That wasn't a  news article, it was an ad for lastpass.com

That had to be the most blatant product placement ad I've ever seen.
 
2014-08-07 09:40:22 PM  

abhorrent1: Um, subby? Do you realize how many truly stupid people there are in the world? Go google a list of the most popular passwords.


Speaking of which, why is "monkey" always on the list?
 
2014-08-07 09:41:18 PM  

ZeroPly: Grahor: ZeroPly: One of my users actually had "correcthorsebatterystaple" as his password. I just couldn't figure out what to say.

You can read your users' passwords?!!

Err... Have you _warned_ them about it, at least?

Well, sure I can read them. When I need to log in as them, I send an email asking "what's your password", they send an email back with the password, I READ it, then I type it in and log in as them.


Nice save.
 
2014-08-07 11:18:47 PM  
You know what pisses me off? The lack of a common standard for passwords. I just went and changed a bunch of my passwords. Some places want 8-12 digits. One wanted a maximum of ten. Some demand a special character. Some won't let you use a special character.

Christ.

At least make the standard the same so I have a fighting chance of remembering what I used.
 
2014-08-08 03:04:06 AM  

Gonz: But, here's the trick, and it should work out fine for 95% of you. You make up a password that meets the requirements (at least 12 characters, 2 upper, 2 lower, 2 number, 2 special), and set it up like this:

aFqRlHpU(00)


Huh??  Am I missing something?  That just looks like a random string of characters -- how the heck is that easy to remember?
 
2014-08-08 05:04:23 AM  

nyrB: That just looks like a random string of characters -- how the heck is that easy to remember?


You don't remember it. You write it down on a paper. :) Otherwise the hacking games won't have any chance.

I mean, imagine you have a system locking down after 10 attempts at wrong password, so no possibility of brute force. How a poor hacker is to know the password if you aren't going to write it down somewhere?
 
2014-08-08 07:47:15 AM  

JonnyBGoode: The password is always "swordfish".


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-08-08 09:59:27 AM  
My bank found a clever way to prevent people from using "password" as their password. Does anybody happen to know how long it takes to crack a hash table full of 6 digit numeric passwords? But they tell me it's okay because they use a captcha that could be read by Helen Keller and they also use the bane to black hats everywhere; the dreaded security question. Thankfully, nobody could ever possibly figure out what my mother's maiden name was or what street I grew up on, so my money is almost as safe as if I were hiding it under the rock on my front step.

I'm not sure how much longer I'll be banking there.
 
2014-08-08 12:24:55 PM  

SewerSquirrels: Thankfully, nobody could ever possibly figure out what my mother's maiden name was or what street I grew up on, so my money is almost as safe as if I were hiding it under the rock on my front step.


The key to SewerSquirrel's password is Main Street.  The Greeks knew it, the Carthegenians knew it, and now you know it.
 
2014-08-08 01:09:19 PM  

SewerSquirrels: Does anybody happen to know how long it takes to crack a hash table full of 6 digit numeric passwords?


Around 30 seconds on a pocket calculator.

Honestly, what the hell? There is such thing as one-time pad, which guarantees nearly perfect security and was used in post-soviet Eastern European banks since wild nineties. What the hell? Drop that bank right now.
 
2014-08-08 02:51:27 PM  

nyrB: Huh?? Am I missing something? That just looks like a random string of characters -- how the heck is that easy to remember?


Look at where the letters are on your keyboard. Go to the left edge of the home row, then in 3 keys. Basically, pinkie and index finger. Don't shift on the first, shift on the second. Then, go up to the top row and repeat.

Do the same on the right hand side, except you fudge a bit because of the semicolon.

aFqRlHpU. Then put in your parens/brackets and numbers. It LOOKS like a random string of characters, but it's just a pattern.
 
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