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(Shadowlocked)   Telecommuting, and the artificial property bubble that killed sci-fi's great dream   (shadowlocked.com ) divider line 24
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2014-08-07 09:00:31 AM  
That article gave me a headache.
 
2014-08-07 11:18:40 AM  
tl;dr
 
2014-08-07 11:19:08 AM  
I think the article was written by one of those algorithm-driven bots. Not a lot of information, but lots of words.
 
2014-08-07 11:21:15 AM  
What an interesting headline.  What a terribly-long article.

If anyone has programmed their robot to read it I'd love to have cliffs notes.
 
2014-08-07 11:36:06 AM  
DNRTFA, but...

I telecommute. I go into the office one, maybe to days a week. It is farking great. Less commuting hassle, no lunches to buy, no parking fees...I can work on my deck...I can work without pants on for crying out loud, and don't think I haven't.
No horrid winter commuting either. I can look out of the window empathize with the poor suckers who have to slog through all that, and then I make a nice coffee and smile.
While my job is pretty technical (biotech) most of it involves online research, so no pants required. It can get busy but if I stay on top of things, I can have some pretty stress-free days.

/pants/
 
2014-08-07 11:52:45 AM  

lonomoholo: DNRTFA, but...

I telecommute. I go into the office one, maybe to days a week. It is farking great. Less commuting hassle, no lunches to buy, no parking fees...I can work on my deck...I can work without pants on for crying out loud, and don't think I haven't.
No horrid winter commuting either. I can look out of the window empathize with the poor suckers who have to slog through all that, and then I make a nice coffee and smile.
While my job is pretty technical (biotech) most of it involves online research, so no pants required. It can get busy but if I stay on top of things, I can have some pretty stress-free days.

/pants/


Pantsless is overrated.
 
2014-08-07 12:34:52 PM  
London's official population has grown by nearly 8 million in the ten years to 2011 (Office of National Statistics, PDF).

Congratulations. You're illiterate. You added a 0, it says 851,000. (This is page 13 in this in case anyone wants to check which of us is the illiterater.) The writer may have also confused this with 8.3m which is the total population of London now that it's grown from 8.2m.
 
2014-08-07 01:10:50 PM  
My company has no offices. None. Our mailing address is actually that of our lawyer. Everyone else works from home. Once a year we rent out a conference room in a hotel and have a get-together. Everything else is handled virtually.

This has allowed us to hire excellent talent that we might not have otherwise gotten because they didn't want to move. It lets us have a good presence in multiple time zones in case of emergency. It saves us untold thousands of dollars a year in rent and utilities (not to mention the savings for the individual employees in terms of gas and food).

That being said, not all industries can do that. Any business that deals with "random customers" must have a physical presence. Retail, doctors, lawyers, food service, and so on, must have a physical presence. (Retail could have a much *smaller* physical presence, mind you.)

However, there is essentially no reason for, say, 60% of the white-collar workforce to work in an office. My sister has worked from home for 12 years now, and I've had two difference jobs where I worked from home for years each time. The jobs where I went to the office did nothing in terms of how much I got done; in fact I tended to get less done because I had to physically get there which meant riding the train, getting up earlier, being more tired, leaving for lunch, etc, etc.
 
2014-08-07 02:06:50 PM  
as soon as you can get mgmt to feel comfortable with it everywhere...

then you'll be able to do work anywhere.


bonus, no more commuting issues...less office space
bad, tethered to your work 24/7...even on vacation


at least you'll have more options, when your area starts to suck wind.
 
2014-08-07 02:15:59 PM  

Lord Dimwit: My company has no offices. None. Our mailing address is actually that of our lawyer. Everyone else works from home. Once a year we rent out a conference room in a hotel and have a get-together. Everything else is handled virtually.

This has allowed us to hire excellent talent that we might not have otherwise gotten because they didn't want to move. It lets us have a good presence in multiple time zones in case of emergency. It saves us untold thousands of dollars a year in rent and utilities (not to mention the savings for the individual employees in terms of gas and food).

That being said, not all industries can do that. Any business that deals with "random customers" must have a physical presence. Retail, doctors, lawyers, food service, and so on, must have a physical presence. (Retail could have a much *smaller* physical presence, mind you.)

However, there is essentially no reason for, say, 60% of the white-collar workforce to work in an office. My sister has worked from home for 12 years now, and I've had two difference jobs where I worked from home for years each time. The jobs where I went to the office did nothing in terms of how much I got done; in fact I tended to get less done because I had to physically get there which meant riding the train, getting up earlier, being more tired, leaving for lunch, etc, etc.


Sounds nice. What do they do?

/and are they hiring?
 
2014-08-07 02:20:22 PM  

rikkards: tl;dr

 
2014-08-07 02:21:35 PM  

lonomoholo: I go into the office one, maybe to days a week.


So, you mainly communicate with other humans by typing?
 
2014-08-07 02:56:17 PM  
I'm usually in the office 1 or 2 days in the week. Never more.
So I'm getting a kick.


/I get FAR more done at home and the commute is just lost productivity
//the only people in my office that are there every day are the ones that don't work but want to look like they do
///also, beer from my fridge is good
 
2014-08-07 03:10:50 PM  

sendtodave: So, you mainly communicate with other humans by typing?


Welcome to Fark.
 
2014-08-07 03:18:44 PM  
I just got laid off from a giant technology company with a balding female CEO who just eliminated their telecommuting policy, so I am getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2014-08-07 03:21:55 PM  

tricycleracer: sendtodave: So, you mainly communicate with other humans by typing?

Welcome two Fark.


FTFY.  Pet peeve.
 
2014-08-07 03:27:20 PM  
I wish I could find the source, but the last time this was a Fark thread someone pointed to this idea:

Middle management is the parasitic cancer on American business.  It contributes next to nothing to productivity, and makes everyone below that level miserable, either by salary comparison, or creating miserable working conditions either out of pure spite & sadism or in an attempt to boost productivity further (or all of that at once).

These same middle managers, by definition, can't prove their "worth" to their management if they can't monitor how many pee breaks you take and constantly re-task you all day long to make themselves look like they're contributing.

TL/DR:  You can't micromanage as much over the phone as you can in person, so no telecommuting for you peons.
 
2014-08-07 04:45:28 PM  

TheOtherGuy: no telecommuting for you peons.


No farking shiat. My wife's boss's boss has a real burr up his butt about telecommuting. He hates it when she and her coworkers (support for a web services company in San Francisco) work from home with any real frequency.

The catch is that  he lives in the midwest. He only is ever in the office a few times a year.
 
2014-08-07 04:51:23 PM  

JayCab: TheOtherGuy: no telecommuting for you peons.

No farking shiat. My wife's boss's boss has a real burr up his butt about telecommuting. He hates it when she and her coworkers (support for a web services company in San Francisco) work from home with any real frequency.

The catch is that  he lives in the midwest. He only is ever in the office a few times a year.


I had a boss like that once. I literally never met her - not once - but she would call the local facilities manager and have him walk around and verify that everyone was in the office that day.

It was stupid.
 
2014-08-07 04:53:52 PM  
I telecommute 2 days a week, and am working towards more.

Of course, during bad weather, I can stay home whenever I want.
 
2014-08-07 09:28:07 PM  
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"You lost me..."
 
2014-08-08 12:44:12 AM  
Half of my work days are from home and the other half are a test of my patience.
 
2014-08-08 03:51:27 AM  

bigstoopidbruce: I just got laid off from a giant technology company with a balding female CEO who just eliminated their telecommuting policy, so I am getting a kick out of these replies.


Hmmm...I wonder what company THAT is...
 
2014-08-08 03:38:50 PM  
Some people actually like living in cities.
 
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