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2014-08-07 11:26:15 AM  

dittybopper: Apparently there was some kind of unspoken understanding that so long as the poaching wasn't really egregious they'd turn a blind eye, because the family couldn't afford the fines and legal fees.


Yep, same here.   The rural folks will be the first to turn you in for poaching except for if they know that you only do this to keep your family fed.  Just be discreet and only use it when you need it.

The ones that poach and waste are the ones we really love to hate.
 
2014-08-07 11:26:25 AM  

Fart_Machine: dittybopper: Click Click D'oh: rewind2846: What he is not is some second amendment nutjob who has to make up for a lack of adequate genitalia with a gun.

<Summon Dittybopper>

Gotta love that Oleg Volk.  Who else would get an attractive woman to strip nekkid and pose with a Brown Bess?

Someone with enough money to hire a model?


Yeah, might want to go to his website.  Some of the images are for pay, but many, especially the political ones like that one, are done because he believes in the Second Amendment.

Oh, and there are a number of NSFW images, but they are mainly in the "models" sections.
 
2014-08-07 11:26:53 AM  

redmid17: Yes, the complete lack of consumer and safety regulations on firearms is astounding.


Indeed, it is.

www.washingtonpost.com
 
2014-08-07 11:27:39 AM  

Lord_Baull: dittybopper: Gotta love that Oleg Volk.  Who else would get an attractive woman to strip nekkid and pose with a Brown Bess?

[inigomontoya.jpg]


Also, anti-gun bigot?? Lolwut?


Well, technically, a bigot is someone who is intolerant of someone because of their opinions or beliefs.
(looked it up :  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot )
 
2014-08-07 11:27:41 AM  

Rwa2play: redmid17: If the NRA is backed by gun manufacturer's it's because the NRA has a gun to their head. There not necessarily in it willingly. It's much more appropriate to say the NRA forces their hand than to say the manufacturers support them.

So why not back an organization like the Liberal Gun Club, openly state their intentions/goals and ditch the NRA?  The NRA needs them more than the other way around.


The Liberal Gun Club's stances are identical to the NRA, without having the same perks (other than not having Ted Nugent speak for you, which is actually something worth considering).

Fart_Machine: Fark It: BMulligan: There was a guy wearing a T-shirt with an illustration of an AK-47 or similar, with text that read "Why do I need it? I didn't, until I found out it pissed you off." That's the one guy in the room who absolutely shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a gun (or sharp objects, for that matter).

Why not?  His shirt made you asspained?  Really?

Because if you're going to buy something just to piss someone off it means you have the maturity of a toddler.


If someone's T-shirt gets you assblasted then you have the maturity of a toddler....
 
2014-08-07 11:27:53 AM  

Lord_Baull: dittybopper: Gotta love that Oleg Volk.  Who else would get an attractive woman to strip nekkid and pose with a Brown Bess?

[inigomontoya.jpg]


Also, anti-gun bigot?? Lolwut?


I've done *MUCH* worse and been quite happy about it.

Also, I said "attractive", not "drop-dead gorgeous".
 
2014-08-07 11:27:58 AM  

Satan's Superfluous Nipple: Rwa2play: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: bdub77: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: Except I generally think most liberals have anger issues and they want to ban guns because they know they can't trust themselves to not go postal over every little thing. And then they project their emotional instabilty on everyone else.

That's because you have shiat for brains.

And you just helped reinforce my view of liberals.

That they have better explanations/arguments than yours for opposing/advocating issues and are not all "God and patriotism above common sense"?

No, that they're immature and don't have the ability to have a reasonable discussion about anything.


Projection noted.
 
2014-08-07 11:28:07 AM  
l.wigflip.com
 
2014-08-07 11:29:31 AM  

Fark It: f someone's T-shirt gets you assblasted then you have the maturity of a toddler....


assblasted? That sounds like something Santorum is into
 
2014-08-07 11:29:33 AM  

dittybopper: Fart_Machine: dittybopper: Click Click D'oh: rewind2846: What he is not is some second amendment nutjob who has to make up for a lack of adequate genitalia with a gun.

<Summon Dittybopper>

Gotta love that Oleg Volk.  Who else would get an attractive woman to strip nekkid and pose with a Brown Bess?

Someone with enough money to hire a model?

Yeah, might want to go to his website.  Some of the images are for pay, but many, especially the political ones like that one, are done because he believes in the Second Amendment.

Oh, and there are a number of NSFW images, but they are mainly in the "models" sections.


Well that's nice but it has nothing to do with what I said. So he hired a model to pose with a gun covering her crotch. Neat.
 
2014-08-07 11:29:45 AM  
Fark It: enry: Yet it continued to prove my point. So yes, +1.

No, it didn't.  Those people who would say that the main function of Planned Parenthood is abortion are wrong, even if they're a majority.  That was the point.


Because Planned Parenthood is usually the face for abortion rights.  There are other groups, but Cecile Richards or someone else from PP is the one that shows up on the talk shows to discuss the issues.  They do it willingly, so of course they're going to be thought of as the face of abortion rights.  That the NRA is seen as the face of gun manufacturers is for the exact same reason.

And gun rights advocates think that they should be able to own nuclear weapons.  Painting with a broad brush is fun!

Citation needed.  Could you also direct me to a gun control law that goes too far for gun control activists and was repealed?  I want to know of these gun control ideas that are too much for gun control activists.  I'm having trouble, the Brady Campaign keeps on revising their scorecards so that no state goes far enough, not even California and New York.


Uh huh.
 
2014-08-07 11:29:50 AM  

Satan's Superfluous Nipple: bdub77: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: Except I generally think most liberals have anger issues and they want to ban guns because they know they can't trust themselves to not go postal over every little thing. And then they project their emotional instabilty on everyone else.

That's because you have shiat for brains.

And you just helped reinforce my view of liberals.



Oh, noes! Right winger has pre-conceived notions of liberals reinforced after posting inflammitory rhetoric specifically designed to do so!!
 
2014-08-07 11:30:08 AM  

The Name: If you support the second amendment, then you in effect support a return to the wild west, because it's the second amendment that makes it nearly impossible to pass common-sense gun control.


This this the same 'common sense' that comes from a person that advocates killing of Republicans in the Bundy threads?

If so, I'll pass thankyouverymuch.
 
2014-08-07 11:30:25 AM  
We've had open carry here without a permit here in Arizona for quite a long time and I've seen two people carrying in the 16 years I've been here that wasn't directly outside a gun range.  It's really not that big of a deal.
 
2014-08-07 11:31:20 AM  

bdub77: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: Except I generally think most liberals have anger issues and they want to ban guns because they know they can't trust themselves to not go postal over every little thing. And then they project their emotional instabilty on everyone else.

That's because you have shiat for brains.


Careful.  Conservatives will go crying to the mods for comments like that.
 
2014-08-07 11:31:46 AM  

Fark It: Rwa2play: redmid17: If the NRA is backed by gun manufacturer's it's because the NRA has a gun to their head. There not necessarily in it willingly. It's much more appropriate to say the NRA forces their hand than to say the manufacturers support them.

So why not back an organization like the Liberal Gun Club, openly state their intentions/goals and ditch the NRA?  The NRA needs them more than the other way around.

The Liberal Gun Club's stances are identical to the NRA, without having the same perks (other than not having Ted Nugent speak for you, which is actually something worth considering).

Fart_Machine: Fark It: BMulligan: There was a guy wearing a T-shirt with an illustration of an AK-47 or similar, with text that read "Why do I need it? I didn't, until I found out it pissed you off." That's the one guy in the room who absolutely shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a gun (or sharp objects, for that matter).

Why not?  His shirt made you asspained?  Really?

Because if you're going to buy something just to piss someone off it means you have the maturity of a toddler.

If someone's T-shirt gets you assblasted then you have the maturity of a toddler....


Except the guy getting assblasted was the one wearing the shirt.
 
2014-08-07 11:31:53 AM  

Fart_Machine: Fark It: BMulligan: There was a guy wearing a T-shirt with an illustration of an AK-47 or similar, with text that read "Why do I need it? I didn't, until I found out it pissed you off." That's the one guy in the room who absolutely shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a gun (or sharp objects, for that matter).

Why not?  His shirt made you asspained?  Really?

Because if you're going to buy something just to piss someone off it means you have the maturity of a toddler.


Exactly. Serious tools should be kept away from children and the mentally infirm. I would deny that man access to guns, knives, scissors, matches, or anything else he could possibly hurt himself with until he grows the fark up.
 
2014-08-07 11:31:56 AM  

physt: karnal: Epic Fap Session: karnal: Epic Fap Session: karnal: TwistedIvory: Once again:

http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/

There are more of us out there than you think.

Maybe we should start a database.

This is what derpers projecting their fears onto others looks like.

Go ahead.


Looks as if someone projected their derp all over your face. Here's a tissue.  Clean yourself up.

Sick burn. I bet you're the funniest guy in detention.

Only paranoid people think there is any possible scenario where "leftists" come for your guns. It is a delusion you share with many other nut bags.

Ok Ok....it's kind of hard to have a serious conversation with you when you have that derp all over your face....wipe it off and then we can talk.

Could you be any more sexual latently homosexual?
[img.fark.net image 640x480]



Homophobe says what?
 
2014-08-07 11:32:00 AM  

enry: FilmBELOH20: enry:  If you go out and ask a dozen random people who represents gun manufacturers, you'll get over eight that say it's the NRA and maybe one or two that has heard of the NSSF.

And if you go out and ask a dozen random people what the main function Planned Parenthood is, you'll get over eight that will answer "abortion".  It doesn't mean anything other than, by and large, our public is very, very uninformed.

Yes, because PP is at the forefront of abortion rights.  Funny that.  They're known for many other things, but when questions about abortion come up, PP is the one that steps up to take the questions.  When questions arise for gun manufacturers, the NRA steps up.


Annnnnd thank you for making my whole point for me.  What's the main function of PP?  Education, right?  I mean when it all comes down to it, they educate and assist those in need of planning for parenthood.  But if you ask the uninformed right wing, it's nothing but a baby-killing genocide factory because they have a legislative portion of the group responsible for lobbying.

At it's core, the NRA has always been about safety and firearms training.  If you knew anything about the organization you'd know that they spend millions and millions of dollars for hunter's safety programs, shooting sports programs for youth, etc.  They've literally trained hundreds of millions of hunters over the years and that's why, with the rare exception, most hunters enjoy accident-free hunting seasons year after year and generation after generation.  But basically after Columbine, and solely because of the main-stream media as well as a few celebrities and politicians, the NRA became the bad guy, and now the uninformed left wing has it's patsy as well.

The vast majority of violent deaths from guns in this country are not now, nor have they ever been from NRA members.  If you really, seriously and truly want to address gun violence, stop looking at NRA members, and start asking hard questions about socioeconomic issues in inner cities and lack of funding for mental health across the board.  If anything, the NRA saves lives in much the same way that Planned Parenthood saves babies from being aborted.
 
2014-08-07 11:32:41 AM  

The Name: redmid17: Yes, the complete lack of consumer and safety regulations on firearms is astounding.

Indeed, it is.

[www.washingtonpost.com image 850x450]


Right, because only *GUN* homicides in developed countries are bad.  The non-gun homicides in Poland that push them to a higher total homicide rate than the US don't count, right?


www.data360.org
 
2014-08-07 11:33:39 AM  

Satan's Superfluous Nipple: Rwa2play: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: bdub77: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: Except I generally think most liberals have anger issues and they want to ban guns because they know they can't trust themselves to not go postal over every little thing. And then they project their emotional instabilty on everyone else.

That's because you have shiat for brains.

And you just helped reinforce my view of liberals.

That they have better explanations/arguments than yours for opposing/advocating issues and are not all "God and patriotism above common sense"?

No, that they're immature and don't have the ability to have a reasonable discussion about anything.



Dammit, my ironymeter just exploded.
Also you just explained the Rightwing stance on women's reproductive rights.
 
2014-08-07 11:33:55 AM  

HeadLever: The Name: If you support the second amendment, then you in effect support a return to the wild west, because it's the second amendment that makes it nearly impossible to pass common-sense gun control.

This this the same 'common sense' that comes from a person that advocates killing of Republicans in the Bundy threads?

If so, I'll pass thankyouverymuch.


Yeah, whatever, Cletus.

www.addictinginfo.org
 
2014-08-07 11:34:11 AM  

Rwa2play: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: Rwa2play: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: bdub77: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: Except I generally think most liberals have anger issues and they want to ban guns because they know they can't trust themselves to not go postal over every little thing. And then they project their emotional instabilty on everyone else.

That's because you have shiat for brains.

And you just helped reinforce my view of liberals.

That they have better explanations/arguments than yours for opposing/advocating issues and are not all "God and patriotism above common sense"?

No, that they're immature and don't have the ability to have a reasonable discussion about anything.

Projection noted.


Well, aren't you just the witty one.
 
2014-08-07 11:35:16 AM  

The Name: Careful.  Conservatives will go crying to the mods for comments like that.


Yeah, at least he is not calling for the killing of Republicans, right?
 
2014-08-07 11:36:02 AM  

The Name: Yeah, whatever, Cletus.


Go ahead and find where I ever advocated for that.  You on the other hand seem to think that is 'common sense' right?
 
2014-08-07 11:36:08 AM  

FilmBELOH20: enry: FilmBELOH20: enry:  If you go out and ask a dozen random people who represents gun manufacturers, you'll get over eight that say it's the NRA and maybe one or two that has heard of the NSSF.

And if you go out and ask a dozen random people what the main function Planned Parenthood is, you'll get over eight that will answer "abortion".  It doesn't mean anything other than, by and large, our public is very, very uninformed.

Yes, because PP is at the forefront of abortion rights.  Funny that.  They're known for many other things, but when questions about abortion come up, PP is the one that steps up to take the questions.  When questions arise for gun manufacturers, the NRA steps up.

Annnnnd thank you for making my whole point for me.  What's the main function of PP?  Education, right?


Wrong

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are
 
2014-08-07 11:36:39 AM  

dittybopper: The Name: redmid17: Yes, the complete lack of consumer and safety regulations on firearms is astounding.

Indeed, it is.

[www.washingtonpost.com image 850x450]

Right, because only *GUN* homicides in developed countries are bad.  The non-gun homicides in Poland that push them to a higher total homicide rate than the US don't count, right?


[www.data360.org image 850x515]


Uh . . . Cletus, did you get a good look at the names of the countries at the top of that list?  Is that REALLY the chart you want to use to argue that the US doesn't have a problem with gun violence?
 
2014-08-07 11:36:53 AM  

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!

www.agilebts.com

 
2014-08-07 11:37:02 AM  
I'm looking to build an AR-15. Looking at Stag Arms lower and maybe upper receivers. Anyone have experience with them? Are they good quality?

I want to build a carbine sized rifle btw
 
2014-08-07 11:38:03 AM  

HeadLever: The Name: Yeah, whatever, Cletus.

Go ahead and find where I ever advocated for that.


You sure don't seem outraged by it.
 
2014-08-07 11:38:27 AM  

enry: Because Planned Parenthood is usually the face for abortion rights. There are other groups, but Cecile Richards or someone else from PP is the one that shows up on the talk shows to discuss the issues. They do it willingly, so of course they're going to be thought of as the face of abortion rights. That the NRA is seen as the face of gun manufacturers is for the exact same reason.


Planned Parenthood is seen as the face of abortion (incorrectly) because anti-abortion laws are primarily targeted at Planned Parenthood.  NARAL and NOW are two groups I think of as being more "the face of abortion rights" in this country than PP.  But then again, I'm moderately infrommed.  The NRA is seen as the face of the gun manufacturers because Wayne LaPerriere is a tone-deaf attention-whore, and because of populist, media-driven narratives that have a tenuous relationship to reality.

Fart_Machine: Except the guy getting assblasted was the one wearing the shirt.


The guy getting assblasted is the one whining about it on the internet, who is clamoring for a paternalistic, overbearing security state to come in and take rights away from people for what he claims is "immaturity."
 
2014-08-07 11:38:32 AM  

BMulligan: Exactly. Serious tools should be kept away from children and the mentally infirm.


So, did he actually have his AK that he purchased just to piss you off with him, or are you just basing your evaluation of his mental state and facilities entirely on a shirt?
 
2014-08-07 11:39:57 AM  

The Name: You sure don't seem outraged by it.


It is just as retarded as when you do it.
 
2014-08-07 11:40:34 AM  
I'm the libbiest ib who ever libbed a lib.

I don't own a gun, as I don't personally care for them. That said, I fully support the right to open carry should someone so desire. I understand that in a lot of areas it's a practicality thing. For example, if you're a hunter and you want to stop off at a 7-11 for a coffee, some scratch tickets and a copy of Penthouse, those guns are kind of expensive to just leave in your truck, so bring the damn things in with you. Just act responsible with it (you know, the don't point it at anything you don't wish to shoot, finger off the trigger, gun is always loaded stuff).

However if a business posts that they don't want firearms on the premises, that's well within their rights, so lock up your gun safely like the responsible gun owner you no doubt are.

I also don't see any issue with background checks before a gun sale, just to make sure the buyer isn't either a straw purchaser or a crazy person.

Is that reasonable?

Oh and anyone who uses the phrases "booger hook" or "bang switch" deserves to get their balls (or boobs, I'm not gender biased) crushed by a sharpened steel stiletto heel until they resemble the exploded heads in Scanners.
 
2014-08-07 11:40:59 AM  

dittybopper: attractive woman

??????
 
2014-08-07 11:41:01 AM  

HeadLever: The Name: You sure don't seem outraged by it.

It is just as retarded as when you do it.


Yeah, well, let's just say I support the right to self-defense ;-)
 
2014-08-07 11:41:09 AM  

sweetmelissa31: [l.wigflip.com image 640x513]


Congratulations.  I can tell by the pixels that you know how to use photoshop.
 
2014-08-07 11:41:14 AM  

enry: FilmBELOH20:
Annnnnd thank you for making my whole point for me.  What's the main function of PP?  Education, right?

Wrong


http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are


Thanks for the link.  Here's the first line on the page:  "We are a trusted health care provider, an informed educator, a passionate advocate, and a global partner helping similar organizations around the world."
 
2014-08-07 11:41:41 AM  

The Name: HeadLever: The Name: If you support the second amendment, then you in effect support a return to the wild west, because it's the second amendment that makes it nearly impossible to pass common-sense gun control.

This this the same 'common sense' that comes from a person that advocates killing of Republicans in the Bundy threads?

If so, I'll pass thankyouverymuch.

Yeah, whatever, Cletus.

[www.addictinginfo.org image 400x234]



pavlovianobeisance.com
 
2014-08-07 11:42:13 AM  

FilmBELOH20: enry: FilmBELOH20:
Annnnnd thank you for making my whole point for me.  What's the main function of PP?  Education, right?

Wrong

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/who-we-are

Thanks for the link.  Here's the first line on the page:  "We are a trusted health care provider, an informed educator, a passionate advocate, and a global partner helping similar organizations around the world."


That's not their main function.
 
2014-08-07 11:42:14 AM  

The Name: redmid17: Yes, the complete lack of consumer and safety regulations on firearms is astounding.

Indeed, it is.

[www.washingtonpost.com image 850x450]


Be sure to make some fliers and send some emails to the FFLs, manufacturers, and ATF to tell them that all the rules are gone. Might as well bundle the ATF into the FBI or DEA now.
 
2014-08-07 11:43:21 AM  

redmid17: The Name: redmid17: Yes, the complete lack of consumer and safety regulations on firearms is astounding.

Indeed, it is.

[www.washingtonpost.com image 850x450]

Be sure to make some fliers and send some emails to the FFLs, manufacturers, and ATF to tell them that all the rules are gone. Might as well bundle the ATF into the FBI or DEA now.


So, absolutely no more regulations are needed, then?
 
2014-08-07 11:43:24 AM  

Fark It: enry: Because Planned Parenthood is usually the face for abortion rights. There are other groups, but Cecile Richards or someone else from PP is the one that shows up on the talk shows to discuss the issues. They do it willingly, so of course they're going to be thought of as the face of abortion rights. That the NRA is seen as the face of gun manufacturers is for the exact same reason.

Planned Parenthood is seen as the face of abortion (incorrectly) because anti-abortion laws are primarily targeted at Planned Parenthood.  NARAL and NOW are two groups I think of as being more "the face of abortion rights" in this country than PP.  But then again, I'm moderately infrommed.  The NRA is seen as the face of the gun manufacturers because Wayne LaPerriere is a tone-deaf attention-whore, and because of populist, media-driven narratives that have a tenuous relationship to reality.


After all that, you agree with me.  Thanks.  There's hope for you yet.
 
2014-08-07 11:43:28 AM  

Lord_Baull: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: Rwa2play: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: bdub77: Satan's Superfluous Nipple: Except I generally think most liberals have anger issues and they want to ban guns because they know they can't trust themselves to not go postal over every little thing. And then they project their emotional instabilty on everyone else.

That's because you have shiat for brains.

And you just helped reinforce my view of liberals.

That they have better explanations/arguments than yours for opposing/advocating issues and are not all "God and patriotism above common sense"?

No, that they're immature and don't have the ability to have a reasonable discussion about anything.


Dammit, my ironymeter just exploded.
Also you just explained the Rightwing stance on women's reproductive rights.


Meh, I don't care who gets an abortion. I think they should hand out coupons. Buy ten abortions and your next one's free.
 
2014-08-07 11:43:33 AM  

bdub77: AngryDragon: You have lost.  Get over it.

[jpfo.org image 500x377]

One of the great things about our country is that we can change laws. And the world is ever so slowly moving away from violence as a means to an end.

So. Get over it.


lol

/would lol again
 
2014-08-07 11:43:35 AM  

LucklessWonder: Is that reasonable?


If you could keep all the other poison pills away from this type of legislation, it may pass one of these days.  However, the 'shoulder thing that goes up' crowd has a really hard time not interjecting very dumb things into these bills that end any chance of them passing.
 
2014-08-07 11:43:52 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: dittybopper: attractive woman??????


Yeah, I was going to say something but I figured I'd get the studman69 treatment. She's not very attractive.
 
2014-08-07 11:43:59 AM  

Lord_Baull: dittybopper: Gotta love that Oleg Volk.  Who else would get an attractive woman to strip nekkid and pose with a Brown Bess?

[inigomontoya.jpg]


Also, anti-gun bigot?? Lolwut?


The language the more loony wing of the pro-gun side uses can be downright painful sometimes.
 
2014-08-07 11:44:52 AM  

dittybopper: The Name: redmid17: Yes, the complete lack of consumer and safety regulations on firearms is astounding.

Indeed, it is.

[www.washingtonpost.com image 850x450]

Right, because only *GUN* homicides in developed countries are bad.  The non-gun homicides in Poland that push them to a higher total homicide rate than the US don't count, right?
[www.data360.org image 850x515]



You must have ignored the part that shows how the countries with strict gun control have almost no homicides due to guns and haven't completely degenerated into anarchy, despite what right wing propaganda tell us.
 
2014-08-07 11:45:08 AM  

sweetmelissa31: [l.wigflip.com image 640x513]


What is that, a micro Desert Eagle?  What is she thinking?  She wears tailored suits and has a big purse, there's absolutely no reason she should handicap herself with a subcompact, rather than carry a compact Glock 19 or even a full-sized handgun.

2/10, would not bang.
 
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