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2014-08-06 08:34:44 PM  
I know hoarders like that. It's such a sad thing to watch.
 
2014-08-06 08:54:13 PM  
FOR THE HOARD!
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-08-06 08:59:51 PM  
Nobody was dead for 3 years. Or nobody they found. Mom died in 2011. When she started to smell workers excavated the mess and took her body away. Son died in 2014. When he started to smell workers excavated the mess and took his body away.

Just in case, I'm not going to move into that house until at least 2018.
 
2014-08-06 09:26:22 PM  
Neighbor Kathy Cooke says she hadn't seen Ronald Opilka for weeks and that he hadn't been able to accept his mother's death in 2011.

Denial is one thing, leaving mom's body to rot under a pile of newspapers is a whole 'nother category.
 
2014-08-06 10:04:09 PM  

ZAZ: Nobody was dead for 3 years. Or nobody they found. Mom died in 2011. When she started to smell workers excavated the mess and took her body away. Son died in 2014. When he started to smell workers excavated the mess and took his body away.

Just in case, I'm not going to move into that house until at least 2018.


So you're planning on dying in, like, 2020?  Ewwww.
 
2014-08-06 11:43:49 PM  
Crap.  I laughed at that headline.  I am a bad person.
 
2014-08-06 11:47:23 PM  
I was a home health nurse for about, oh, 6 weeks.

It was this stuff that I couldn't take.  Looks like a normal house on the outside, inside is a scary labyrinth of nastiness.
 
2014-08-06 11:51:23 PM  
I've met hoarders, as have probably most people on here.  Funny thing, they always go off about it being everyone else's problem for not being able to deal with their "lifestyle".  Part of me feels sympathetic to them.  Often, other than their hoarding, they don't exhibit any other serious mental health problems.  However, there are enough problems from the mental problems to warrant them having to deal with it.

As for myself, I kind of have a hard time dealing with getting rid of useless shiat.  I am not a hoarder, but I very well could be, if I didn't constantly remind myself that just because an item had value when I got it, does not mean it has value now.  That reminds me, I have an old busted printer, and a burnt out analog TV I got to take to be e-recycled.
 
2014-08-06 11:51:37 PM  
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2014-08-07 12:00:34 AM  
Click to know what happens next in this story

I'll pass thanks..
 
2014-08-07 12:16:08 AM  
If I die before my wife this is the way I am going to be found.... buried under a bunch of scrapbooking supplies and beany babies.
 
2014-08-07 12:16:43 AM  
my 2,000 books have sat on my shelves unread for years.

am i a hoarder or a collector?
 
2014-08-07 12:20:05 AM  
That reminds me. It's time to clean off my desk.
 
2014-08-07 12:22:05 AM  

jsmilky: my 2,000 books have sat on my shelves unread for years.

am i a hoarder or a collector?


On a shelf collector

Strewn in piles around the house so that you can't move room room with out it all collapsing like a cheap mans coal mine, hoarder
 
2014-08-07 12:27:04 AM  

jsmilky: my 2,000 books have sat on my shelves unread for years.

am i a hoarder or a collector?


That depends. Are there shelves in front of your shelves and piles of boxes in front of those? Do you have so much junk you can't find anything so you just buy another and toss it on top of the pile? Are there sections of your house you haven't seen in years because it's buried under a pile of junk? And if you were to move it you'd seen pristine carpet underneath?
 
2014-08-07 12:34:57 AM  
I spent about half of my life with a hoarder, living in her clutter, dealing with her habits, risking a wicked fight if I dared to throw out a scrap of paper or broken thing that she irrationally treasured. In retrospect, I can say now that I was in hell. At the time I was trying to do the right thing and be a good man, but I realize that in all that time I did plenty of the wrong things for the right reasons. We both needed a kick in the rear for things to improve, and I finally got the strength to make the necessary changes. I can only hope her life has improved as much as mine has. I truly don't wish ill upon her-- I just know that me being with her had all-but murdered my spirit and will.

These days, I don't abide clutter in my home. Getting out of that situation was the best thing I ever did. I'll never let something like that happen to me again. My fiancee is a rather tidy person. I have a robot that vacuums my floors. I keep the dishes washed and the floors clear. If I determine I probably won't use something within a year, I dispose of it, sell it, or give it away.  My closets are full, but my floors, walls, and living space have only the things I use day-to-day.

...And it's bliss. You really cannot appreciate how liberating it is to be in a clutter-free home until you've spent a long time living in a hoarder's habitat. There are  still times when I throw away a pickle jar, soup can label, or junk mail and actually  savor the experience. I am no longer the villain in her delusions of being a victim of my trash-tossing tyranny. I am no longer depressed by my home and surroundings.

Just being able to come home from work and step ANYWHERE, rather than having to follow a tiny path between piles of stuff... It's amazingly satisfying. I cannot believe I spent so much of my life living  that other way.
 
2014-08-07 12:41:45 AM  
I know someone who hoards dead family members too.
 
2014-08-07 12:43:53 AM  

loonatic112358: jsmilky: my 2,000 books have sat on my shelves unread for years.

am i a hoarder or a collector?

On a shelf collector

Strewn in piles around the house so that you can't move room room with out it all collapsing like a cheap mans coal mine, hoarder


Exactly this.

On top of that, they're books.  Just books, I presume. No scraps of paper. No soup can labels. No broken appliances. No old clothes. No stacks of newspapers. No boxes filled with junk mail. No plastic bags stuffed full of feathers and cobwebs. No paper bags filled with newpaper clippings. No dusty piles of magazines. No ruined furniture stacked against the walls.

Still, I don't collect anything anymore, either. Living with a hoarder cured me of that. I used to collect comic books, video game consoles, and other nerdy things... Now I don't collect ANYTHING. I sold all my collectibles (except for two old boxes of comics that I simply can't unload for a reasonable price) and refuse to let anything sit around now. The only hardcover and paperback books I kept are my favorites-- the ones I read over and over. My CD collection is in a small shelving unit. I transfer all my movies to a hard drive and put the actual discs in a closet, out of the way. Other books and music are in digital format, not taking up any space whatsoever.

If something breaks, I either fix it NOW or I throw it away. I have a dresser full of computer components, but they're only the ones that are immediately useful.

Like I said--- Being in a situation with a real hoarder changes you. You either succumb to it, or you become used to it and start doing it yourself. Being an escapee, I reject hoarding and collecting with every ounce of my being, and frankly, I think I may even have some form of post-hoarder PTSD from the experience.

Having shelves and shelves of books? Not hoarding. Merely collecting, though to the likes of me, even collecting seems unnecessary. If you're never going to use it-- really USE it and appreciate its presence in your home--- then why keep it?
 
2014-08-07 12:49:15 AM  

jsmilky: my 2,000 books have sat on my shelves unread for years.

am i a hoarder or a collector?


I have boxes and boxes of books in the garage that I haven't looked at in years, thanks to the e-reader I got a few years back. I have almost 600 books on the thing, so the crates of books found a new home in the garage out of the way. I still have some books of sentimental or reference value on my bookshelves, but going electronic sure has been great.
 
2014-08-07 12:55:57 AM  
Wurst reading comprehension badge evar goes to...(drum roll)...

/when will this drum roll end?
//subby, do the right thing, make it end
 
2014-08-07 02:13:16 AM  
Yikes.  Yiiiiikes.

Working EMS in a suburban town has let me see a handful of hoarder homes, but none of them with buried bodies (to my knowledge).  One was relatively neat with stacked boxes of tupperwear and newspapers.  There were convenient alleys to walk through from the kitchen to the living room couch, to the stairs to the door.  It was crazy to look at when I was new, but it was at least orderly and fairly clean.  There was even a little valley between the boxes in the living room so that she could see the tv from the couch.

Another home, for what proved to be a DOA, was a complete and horrible mess.  It stank of unwashed bodies and urine (probably not very much from the DOA as she wasn't too long gone).  Garbage bags were cluttered just outside the front door.  The kitchen was filthy with grime everywhere.  The living room was strewn with rolling mountains and valleys of trash.  To get to the body my partner had to climb over a mound close to four or five feet high to get down to where she'd fallen as the bottom of one of the valleys just behind the front door.  The first ID we could maybe find for her was a medicine bottle in the bathroom, dated from the 1970s.

The most recent was a home where the living room was completely inaccessible through piles of collected stuff.  He'd made a path that ran from the front door straight past the kitchen and dining room to the bedrooms.  Both of the bedrooms were cluttered, but not awful, not like the living room.  He had a beautiful, polished coffee server at the edge of the living room.  It was obviously a point of importance for him.  Unlike everything else in the home, it was spotless.  There were spotless Dunkin Donuts styrofoam cups stacked with it.  It was ready for a party.
 
2014-08-07 03:08:12 AM  

Some Coke Drinking Guy: I've met hoarders, as have probably most people on here.  Funny thing, they always go off about it being everyone else's problem for not being able to deal with their "lifestyle".  Part of me feels sympathetic to them.  Often, other than their hoarding, they don't exhibit any other serious mental health problems.  However, there are enough problems from the mental problems to warrant them having to deal with it.

As for myself, I kind of have a hard time dealing with getting rid of useless shiat.  I am not a hoarder, but I very well could be, if I didn't constantly remind myself that just because an item had value when I got it, does not mean it has value now.  That reminds me, I have an old busted printer, and a burnt out analog TV I got to take to be e-recycled.


You don't have to be a hoarder to have those. At least, if not if the analog TV isn't burned out (last I checked).

You don't want to throw away stuff that could be eBayed someday. I could still get... [checking]... $1 for the TV.

OK, I admit that's not worth it. I'll just trash it. Someday soon.
 
2014-08-07 03:10:31 AM  
Wouldn't it be awful if you were a hoarder but you lived in, say, North Korea or Somalia?

"Where a man with a table and four chairs is a hoarder."
 
2014-08-07 05:46:00 AM  
If it only took 3 years to find em then you didn't hide em well enough


/Put me in with the I escaped from a hoarder crowd, now I have a strict 2 year rule, if I haven't used it in 2 years it's gone (emergency hurricane supplies exempted)
 
2014-08-07 06:03:45 AM  

jsmilky: my 2,000 books have sat on my shelves unread for years.

am i a hoarder or a collector?


On a shelf, I'd say collector, and depending on what books and year they were published, they could be worth quite a pretty penny.
Now if you got dead old people buried under those 2000 books and you simply forgot about the person/lost track: hoarder.
 
hej
2014-08-07 06:33:19 AM  
Thread useless without pics.
 
2014-08-07 07:26:55 AM  

WilderKWight: I spent about half of my life with a hoarder, living in her clutter, dealing with her habits, risking a wicked fight if I dared to throw out a scrap of paper or broken thing that she irrationally treasured. In retrospect, I can say now that I was in hell. At the time I was trying to do the right thing and be a good man, but I realize that in all that time I did plenty of the wrong things for the right reasons. We both needed a kick in the rear for things to improve, and I finally got the strength to make the necessary changes. I can only hope her life has improved as much as mine has. I truly don't wish ill upon her-- I just know that me being with her had all-but murdered my spirit and will.

These days, I don't abide clutter in my home. Getting out of that situation was the best thing I ever did. I'll never let something like that happen to me again. My fiancee is a rather tidy person. I have a robot that vacuums my floors. I keep the dishes washed and the floors clear. If I determine I probably won't use something within a year, I dispose of it, sell it, or give it away.  My closets are full, but my floors, walls, and living space have only the things I use day-to-day.

...And it's bliss. You really cannot appreciate how liberating it is to be in a clutter-free home until you've spent a long time living in a hoarder's habitat. There are  still times when I throw away a pickle jar, soup can label, or junk mail and actually  savor the experience. I am no longer the villain in her delusions of being a victim of my trash-tossing tyranny. I am no longer depressed by my home and surroundings.

Just being able to come home from work and step ANYWHERE, rather than having to follow a tiny path between piles of stuff... It's amazingly satisfying. I cannot believe I spent so much of my life living  that other way.


I hear this. My mother is a hoarder. When I left home, she wouldn't let me take my own things, saying they were hers and she needed them. Things like my hairbrush. Her house is piled, PILED, with stuff, things from two husbands, four children, countless eBay auctions and yard sales (because she can sell it and make a profit! Only of course she never does) yada yada. Woe betide you if you ever try to clean.

I moved in with a boyfriend with hoarder tendencies. That didn't go well either.

Now I live alone, in a tidy house where there are no mice or roaches and things don't fall on me. And boy, do I love to throw away junk.
 
2014-08-07 07:49:53 AM  
I have mild hoarding tendencies, interrupted by brief purging spells.
The house is mostly presentable, except for a few attack closets.

I've noticed a few things that reliably bring on purging urges:
1. Observing someone else's squalid hoard (papers/clothes/etc. intermixed with food trash, animal waste, and/or vermin).
2. Dealing with the estate of a hoarder (finding dozens of gently-used toenail clippers, each from a different stratum of stuff).
3. Finding evidence of mice or insect pests anywhere in my space. (It's clean and kill time then, clean and kill.)
 
2014-08-07 08:33:47 AM  
Well, you might need that corpse later. It would be unwise to throw it away now. And it's in pretty good condition, too. Why get rid of a perfectly good corpse ? The smell isn't that bad, either.
 
2014-08-07 09:39:45 AM  

fusillade762: Neighbor Kathy Cooke says she hadn't seen Ronald Opilka for weeks and that he hadn't been able to accept his mother's death in 2011.

Denial is one thing, leaving mom's body to rot under a pile of newspapers is a whole 'nother mothercategory.

FTFY

oblig picture of mom
crimewriter2000.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-08-07 11:19:40 AM  

Slypork: fusillade762: Neighbor Kathy Cooke says she hadn't seen Ronald Opilka for weeks and that he hadn't been able to accept his mother's death in 2011.

Denial is one thing, leaving mom's body to rot under a pile of newspapers is a whole 'nother mothercategory.
FTFY

oblig picture of mom
[crimewriter2000.files.wordpress.com image 472x390]


isn't that Goeff Peterson from TLLS with Craig Ferguson?
 
2014-08-07 11:20:05 AM  

Danger Avoid Death: jsmilky: my 2,000 books have sat on my shelves unread for years.

am i a hoarder or a collector?

I have boxes and boxes of books in the garage that I haven't looked at in years, thanks to the e-reader I got a few years back. I have almost 600 books on the thing, so the crates of books found a new home in the garage out of the way. I still have some books of sentimental or reference value on my bookshelves, but going electronic sure has been great.


if you weren't so far away I'd ask, how much of it is sci fi and are you willing to part with it?
 
2014-08-07 12:52:37 PM  

jsmilky: my 2,000 books have sat on my shelves unread for years.

am i a hoarder or a collector?


If you've read the books, and know which ones you have, collector...

If they are 2000 books you've just picked up randomly on the street and alleys and dumpsters, and never read them, hoarder.
 
2014-08-07 04:34:53 PM  
We should stop calling disgusting lazy people hoarders.
 
2014-08-07 04:45:39 PM  

loonatic112358: Danger Avoid Death: jsmilky: my 2,000 books have sat on my shelves unread for years.

am i a hoarder or a collector?

I have boxes and boxes of books in the garage that I haven't looked at in years, thanks to the e-reader I got a few years back. I have almost 600 books on the thing, so the crates of books found a new home in the garage out of the way. I still have some books of sentimental or reference value on my bookshelves, but going electronic sure has been great.

if you weren't so far away I'd ask, how much of it is sci fi and are you willing to part with it?


Quite a lot of it is sci-fi and fantasy. I used to take my old books to this great used book store, trade them in for credit, and spend a few hours browsing and picking out my "new" used books for the next round of reading pleasure. Unfortunately, the place went out of business a few years ago.
 
2014-08-07 05:56:00 PM  

IRQ12: We should stop calling disgusting lazy people hoarders.


I for one have no choice.  The disgusting lazy people hoarders blocked my number.
 
2014-08-07 06:04:57 PM  

Son of Thunder: IRQ12: We should stop calling disgusting lazy people hoarders.

I for one have no choice.  The disgusting lazy people hoarders blocked my number.


*rimshot*
 
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