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(Huffington Post)   What gives "Two-Buck Chuck" its unmistakably complex nose and velvety piquancy? Maybe it's the rodent blood   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 125
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2014-08-06 02:36:04 PM  
this just in: there's a reason that $2 wine tastes like shiat.

/next time you're at TJ's, pick up a bottle of bogle zinfandel for $9 and thank me later.
 
2014-08-06 02:43:23 PM  
What do you expect for Wino Wines?
 
2014-08-06 02:57:39 PM  
Is that even still around? I haven't seen $2 buck Chuck for years.
 
2014-08-06 03:25:25 PM  

jylcat: Is that even still around? I haven't seen $2 buck Chuck for years.


I bought some around Christmas with a gift card I received but it was more like $3 buck chuck.
 
2014-08-06 03:28:30 PM  

jylcat: Is that even still around? I haven't seen $2 buck Chuck for years.


Trader Joe's still sells a bazillion cases a month, but they increased the price to $3 (in California, more in some other states) maybe a year or so ago.  Which is about what's it's worth--I haven't tasted the shiat in years, though I'm sure it's still the same undrinkable swill it's always been.
 
2014-08-06 03:31:59 PM  
What, everyone likes rats, but nobody likes rat blood?
 
2014-08-06 03:36:11 PM  
Everything, and I do mean everything (including all those unripe grapes, rotten grapes, leaves, stems, birds, rodents, and insects) gets tossed into the crusher and transferred to large tanks to ferment.  Everything, and I do mean everything (including all those unripe grapes, rotten grapes, leaves, stems, birds, rodents, and insects) gets tossed into the crusher and transferred to large tanks to ferment.

Awesome!

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2014-08-06 04:17:55 PM  
So the summary is this - to make $2 wine one must compromise all sense of integrity and quality...

What the hell do you expect?  Does anyone think 2-buck Chuck is going to be a nice bottle?  Really?
 
2014-08-06 04:36:38 PM  
I thought it was $3 now
 
2014-08-06 04:37:31 PM  
Really opens the sluices at both ends.
 
2014-08-06 04:38:19 PM  
Well... were they healthy rats?
 
2014-08-06 04:39:23 PM  
Is this stuff just bum wine or something?

I thought Trader Joe's was more upscale.

This makes MD 20/20 sound good.
 
2014-08-06 04:40:28 PM  
I'll have a glass, without so much rat in it.

*ding* One glass without so much rat in it later...

Truly horrible.
 
2014-08-06 04:40:34 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: So the summary is this - to make $2 wine one must compromise all sense of integrity and quality...

What the hell do you expect?  Does anyone think 2-buck Chuck is going to be a nice bottle?  Really?



About 10 years ago, Headline News did a brief feature on it....and had some sommelier talk about it, and how it was actually a decent wine.

/That clown needs to be banned from wine industry.
 
2014-08-06 04:40:58 PM  

FlashHarry: this just in: there's a reason that $2 wine tastes like shiat.

/next time you're at TJ's, pick up a bottle of bogle zinfandel for $9 and thank me later.


Eh, 2 buck chuck is a crap shoot because of it being an overstock wine. Sometimes it is very good(for the price), other times shiat.
 
2014-08-06 04:41:24 PM  
Subby, for some it's to get farked up. If it does that; what's in it is back burner priority.
 
2014-08-06 04:41:52 PM  
Rat blood actually means it's more organic than I figured.

At $2.99 a bottle, I assumed it was the byproducts of chemical manufacturing cut with the grape flavoring packet from a Fun Dip.
 
2014-08-06 04:41:52 PM  
So you mean it is made like literally every farking foodstuff 99.9999% of the general populace consumes regularly, including "craft" fetishising wine snobs? You don't say.
 
2014-08-06 04:42:12 PM  
Isn't this a normal part of making wine?  That non-grape stuff will sneak in and taking it out would make it taste worse than leaving it in?  Isn't there a name for the non-grape stuff that sneaks in, too?
 
2014-08-06 04:42:12 PM  
Stay Strong With Rat
 
2014-08-06 04:42:14 PM  
TF author sounds like a whiner.

"The other thing is that Fred Franzia is no dummy - he planted those vineyards in such a way as the rows run north-south, giving the vines maximum sun exposure and he made the rows as long as he possibly could, minimizing the number of turns his tractors would need to make."

This just in: successful people try to be as efficient as possible.

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2014-08-06 04:42:26 PM  
I'd rather drink Carlo Rossi's "Dago Red".
 
2014-08-06 04:42:32 PM  
More like Two Buck Upchuck.

/never had it, TJs where we live doesn't sell wine.
 
gja
2014-08-06 04:43:58 PM  
So.....crap wine includes actual crap (and other bodily bits).
Who is a big enough asshole to think NOT?

"Life is too short for cheap booze and expensive women"
 
2014-08-06 04:44:41 PM  
A poorly written article that appears to be opinion and conjecture without any shred of evidence.

I'm not saying he isn't right. I'm saying he has nothing to support his claims.

I don't drink wine really, don't care about 2 buck chuck, but I do care about garbage filler articles that a basically click bait.

This story is crap.
 
2014-08-06 04:45:28 PM  
Everyone in this thread is so pretentious. Two Buck Chuck has historically done quite well in blind taste tests, and has actually won several awards.

From the wiki:

At the 28th Annual International Eastern Wine Competition, Shaw's 2002 Shiraz received the double gold medal, beating approximately 2,300 other wines in the competition.[6]

Shaw's 2005 California Chardonnay was judged Best Chardonnay from California at the Commercial Wine Competition of the 2007 California Exposition and State Fair. The chardonnay received 98 points, a double gold, with accolades of "Best of California" and "Best of Class".[7]
 
2014-08-06 04:45:29 PM  
FTFA: "So the summary is this - to make $2 wine one must compromise all sense of integrity and quality, own tens of thousands of acres of vineyards in the worst possible wine region possible where land is incredibly cheap and yields are exceptionally high, use machines to execute every part of a homogenized system that substitutes manipulation for hand crafted quality, and own every step of the winemaking process including bottling, packaging and distribution, all while giving the finger to the entire wine industry and plowing down anyone who gets in your way. "

This just in- Efficiency is efficient.

I appreciate all the information, but the author could spare the dramatics.  Its not like Franzia is destroying high-end wine companies or culture, or even really competing with them.  He's making a low-quality, presumably safe product and selling it to people who don't give a shiat.
 
2014-08-06 04:45:32 PM  
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2014-08-06 04:45:37 PM  

The_Sponge: Benevolent Misanthrope: So the summary is this - to make $2 wine one must compromise all sense of integrity and quality...

What the hell do you expect?  Does anyone think 2-buck Chuck is going to be a nice bottle?  Really?


About 10 years ago, Headline News did a brief feature on it....and had some sommelier talk about it, and how it was actually a decent wine.

/That clown needs to be banned from wine industry.


Because of prime weather in California for red wine, there were a few years that two buck chuck was a great wine for the price, and those were the years where it exploded on the market
 
2014-08-06 04:46:09 PM  
We don't have a trader joes.  Also, I don't buy bum wine, unless it's for bums.
 
2014-08-06 04:46:17 PM  

TheNewJesus: A poorly written article that appears to be opinion and conjecture without any shred of evidence.

I'm not saying he isn't right. I'm saying he has nothing to support his claims.

I don't drink wine really, don't care about 2 buck chuck, but I do care about garbage filler articles that a basically click bait.

This story is crap.


Oh, and this too
 
2014-08-06 04:48:02 PM  

Mad Scientist: I'll have a glass, without so much rat in it.

*ding* One glass without so much rat in it later...

Truly horrible.


Monty Python references always give me the giggles.
 
2014-08-06 04:49:00 PM  

Glitchwerks: Is this stuff just bum wine or something?

I thought Trader Joe's was more upscale.

This makes MD 20/20 sound good.


No, it is overstock wine. There is no Charles Shaw vineyard. When a vineyard has more wine then they can bottle, or want to bottle, they sell it to Charles Shaw at cheap prices, who slap their label on it. It is more the big lots of wine. It means that you can actually get a good bottle of wine, but you can also get skunk wine. you exchange certainty for price.
 
2014-08-06 04:49:59 PM  
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2014-08-06 04:50:16 PM  
Meh. I drink it. Don't care.
 
2014-08-06 04:50:22 PM  

bhcompy: The_Sponge: Benevolent Misanthrope: So the summary is this - to make $2 wine one must compromise all sense of integrity and quality...

What the hell do you expect?  Does anyone think 2-buck Chuck is going to be a nice bottle?  Really?


About 10 years ago, Headline News did a brief feature on it....and had some sommelier talk about it, and how it was actually a decent wine.

/That clown needs to be banned from wine industry.

Because of prime weather in California for red wine, there were a few years that two buck chuck was a great wine for the price, and those were the years where it exploded on the market



Nah....I drank some during that same time period, and it sucked.

/Wine snob.
 
2014-08-06 04:50:32 PM  
waaaaaaaah waaaaah.

the stuff is $3.  What do you expect?  It's like saying hotdogs aren't made with 100% filet mignon.

Just started 5 gallons of plum wine today.  Fresh picked, clean, and will end up costing me less than $2 a bottle.  And it's rat free!
 
2014-08-06 04:51:18 PM  

neongoats: So you mean it is made like literally every farking foodstuff 99.9999% of the general populace consumes regularly, including "craft" fetishising wine snobs? You don't say.



Craft wine is lovingly stomped from free-range grapes by the vintner's family, who may or may not have an active case of athlete's foot.
 
2014-08-06 04:51:33 PM  
Are these dead rodents in the two-buck-chuck free range and organic?
 
2014-08-06 04:52:58 PM  
This sounds like a logical enough complaint, but exactly how many birds and rodents have you ever seen that wouldn't/can't get the fark out of the way of a tractor?
 
2014-08-06 04:54:07 PM  
Just kidding about the wine snob part....hell, I buy the Kirkland Signature wines at Costco.
 
2014-08-06 04:54:48 PM  

ChipNASA: More like Two Buck Upchuck.

/never had it, TJs where we live doesn't sell wine.


It tastes fine if you're not going to be a wine snob about it. I've had way worse wines for $20. Author is upset that the wine maker doesn't give a crap about "wine culture" and would rather get rich producing vast quantities of drinkable cheap wine.
 
2014-08-06 04:56:18 PM  
This click bait is so full of shiat

At the end of the day, who the fark cares?  It's cheap wine.
 
2014-08-06 04:56:46 PM  
He should be charging you extra for that extra protein and nutrients.
 
2014-08-06 04:58:42 PM  
I also like how he describes everything as quite automated, but insists that amongst all that automation, there isn't a "separate the grapes from the twigs and shiat" step. Anyone that's seen "How it's Made" knows that shiat exists(and thus is probably used in this kind of situation).
 
2014-08-06 04:58:55 PM  

Munchlet24: waaaaaaaah waaaaah.

the stuff is $3.  What do you expect?  It's like saying hotdogs aren't made with 100% filet mignon.

Just started 5 gallons of plum wine today.  Fresh picked, clean, and will end up costing me less than $2 a bottle.  And it's rat free!


Out of curiosity: actually fermenting plums or do you mean something like umeshu?
 
2014-08-06 04:58:57 PM  

thesloppy: This sounds like a logical enough complaint, but exactly how many birds and rodents have you ever seen that wouldn't/can't get the fark out of the way of a tractor?


Exactly. The article's comments destroy this writers whole argument.
 
2014-08-06 04:59:22 PM  
Everything, and I do mean everything (including all those unripe grapes, rotten grapes, leaves, stems, birds, rodents, and insects) gets tossed into the crusher and transferred to large tanks to ferment. Everything, and I do mean everything (including all those unripe grapes, rotten grapes, leaves, stems, birds, rodents, and insects) gets tossed into the crusher and transferred to large tanks to ferment.

Anyone else kinda doubting this is what actually happens? Especially someone who knows something about winemaking? Wouldn't too much of the wrong kind of foreign material possibly introduce off flavors that could ruin thousands of gallons?

For one thing, I'm guessing all of the birds and rodents and most of the insects are going to flee in terror when they sense the big lumbering machine headed their way. I'd also guess that there's maybe a little hand sorting going on as the grapes travel down a conveyor to whatever machine grinds or presses the juice out, maybe even just to make it easier on the machinery. You probably don't want big chunks of wood or the stray bit of metal finding its way into the machines, much less dead animals.

(And then what happens before fermentation -- Pasteurization? Filtering or clarification, or does that come later?)
 
2014-08-06 05:02:13 PM  
Here's all I know about wine.  There's red, which goes with red meats, white, which goes with white meats, and pink that goes with sparking water and high school girls.
A $9 bottle of wine will get me just as drunk as a $3 bottle.  Or I could have 3 bottles of the cheap instead of 1 of the pricey which I can't tell the difference between.
 
2014-08-06 05:02:53 PM  
We can say "click bait" again? Or does the filter only work on the single word?

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